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Author of "Because I Say So: The Dangerous Appeal of Moral Authority" (www.nikkistern.com) and "Hope in Small Doses" to be released June 1, 2010 by Humanist Press.

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MARCH 10, 2010 5:03PM

French Take Scandal in Stride

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CarlaSarkozy Rumors have been flying that both France President Nicholas Sarkozy and his wife, singer/model Carla Bruni, have strayed. By American standards, things are pretty far along: Bruni is said to have fallen in love and moved in with popular French singer Benjamin Biolay. Meanwhile Sarkozy has supposedly taken up with right-wing politician (and former karate champion) Chantal Jouanno. Chantelle

But between strict national privacy laws and the notorious French indifference to the personal pecadillos of political figures, no one seems inclined to confirm these rumors, least of all, the French mainstream press.

BBiolay The whispering, such as it is, is taking place in -- where else -- the blogosphere. Three French-language blogs are reporting on the supposed affairs, though the one I read did not seem to constitute confirmable information. Besides, why would a mainstream editor risk angering public figures to follow a story that does not, in the French version of politics, relate to the political? As the French themselves might say,  "Ca ne fait rien." 

Contrast this attitude with the United States, whose tabloid culture permits pusuit of almost any public figure. Ever since Presidential candidate Gary Hart challenged journalists to "catch him in the act" with 220px-Donna_Rice_and_Gary_H model Donna Rice, the personal lives of politicians have become fair game for former celebrity-chasing papparrazzi. The National Enquirer is being considered for a Pulitzer Prize for its coverage of the John Edwards affair, a turn of events which must have mainstream editors of old spinning in their graves.

The cultural difference is clear. The French, as one reporter noted, believe public figures should be judged not on their "sentimental lives" but on their work. He observed that former presidents Francois Mitterrand and Jacques Chirac both had mistresses without suffering any political fallout. Sarkozy is different: a highly public and flamboyant figure whose apparent need for the spotlight and lack of discretion might lead voters to conclude his private life has impeded his ability to fulfill his public duty.

Then again, it depends on how public he chooses to make his supposed affair, because this is not a story that will be printed (or confirmed) without Sarkozy's tacit approval. Not so in this country, where our journalists feel an almost sacred obligation to follow the rumor and pull the story out into the light of day. Their reasoning, which we have frankly provided for them, is that the private doings of public officials become our business when they take an oath to serve us.

Clearly, we have cultural differences with the French. A "man on the street" interview in Paris found that most people, whether disappointed or not (no one seemed particularly shocked), didn't automatically see a worrisome connection between the private activities of the first couple and the political necessities of the job. That view is anathema to many Americans, who hold that knowing how public (or spiritual) leaders conduct their private lives will tell us how honestly and effectively they will conduct their public ones. Viva la difference, one might say.

Of equal interest is what publishers, editors, and journalists feel needs to be reported. In France, the press tends to be in a laissez faire mode when it comes to covering the personal comings and goings and doings of the ruling class, a frame of mind not usually challenged by its readership. In the United States, scandal sells, especially scandals involving elected officials. 

In the end, we may all agree that politicians are scoundrels but in France, that non-newsworthy item is greeted with a shrug; here, it's greeted with both righteous indignation and the sort of pruient interest that can earn a tabloid a top journalism prize. 

   

 

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I used to loathe scandal-mongering on the job. Still do.

It reminds me of a letter-writer to Ann Landers, who asked how she should go about researching her family tree. "Run for public office," was the reply.
"...but in France, that non-newsworthy item is greeted with a *shrug*; here, it's greeted with both righteous indignation and the sort of prurient interest that can earn a tabloid a top journalism prize."

It is a huge difference in attitude and priorities; probably the main reason why feminists are failing. They get off message holding on to backward religious--and they are religious--"boundaries."

A most relevant and intellectual post, Nikki; you're my hero!
Rated for civility.
Boanerges1: funny
Thoth: merci mille fois
We should be judging our politicians by their performance in office, not their performance in bed.....although I have to admit their are a few out there I wouldn't mind judging on both counts.
Unless it's directly revelant to their jobs (ie, Spitzer using hookers while at the same time fighting prostitution), I don't see how the personal lives of our politicians are any of our business.
One big difference between the U.S. and France is religious observance and belief. Most of Europe is so secular they've turned their churches into condo's and rec centers. C'est la vie and all that.

When I read this story yesterday I thought about the judgement of Sarkozy, who married Carla - his 3rd wife? - within months of meeting her and how his lack of judgement in his love-life will be/is reflected in his lack of judgement in his political life.

Bill Clinton lied to Hilary always, and he felt no shame in lying to the American people who voted him into office. The personal is the political.
The French make more and more sense all the time. We are a still a collection of repressed puritans and sick as hell about sex and all that meaningless stuff that is fed to us as being important.
What Spudman said. He's absolutely right. And I second the "je m'en fous". Because I can.
Discreet affairs are still accepted throughout the world. I still remember the hand ringing when Clinton got busted and I'm still embarrassed at our "OMG" reaction.
Deborah: you seem to think that secularism is the reason the French shrug at political "affaires" but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion. But if you're suggesting that how a person conducts his or her personal life will tell us how he will do his job, I'd have to say...maybe. But it's a slippery slope at best...
O'Reilly: of course you can
The US has the tendency to elect self declared, Southern, Born Again Governors.

You have Bush, Clinton, and Carter, with the elder Bush and Reagan as at least nominal born againers.

It is almost like another third rail for American politics. Anyone that crosses the NRA is going to have trouble winning. And, as far as equal opportunity special interest politics, Israelis have more freedom to question Israel's policies than American politicians.

In fact, the US elected Cleveland and Harding in spite of widely spread rumors regarding illegitimate children. So we are getting less and less tolerant as a nation.

The French think we are idiots in this regard. They are right.
R
Interesting. I sometimes think I must be French. We still remain Puritanical in so many ways, especially lately.
Here you are--bringing out the Socialists. Then you'll be talking about surrendering and cheese.
Most shocking of all--the Sarkozies (is that the plural? because it sounds like something you find in a pantry) vacationed at Lake Winnipisaukee, New Hampshire, home of motorcycle race weekend.

Quelle horreur!
its interesting that you wrote so much without even stating your own opinion. that seems like the point of having a blog, but whatever.
my opinion.... the french are ahead in some ways, behind in others. what is their actual relationship? is it polyamorous, or a kind of partner arms race? if the public could get beyond 1dimensional stereotypes, now there would be something new.
I think we might have this backwards. Sure, American's are repressed, embarrassed about sex, and judgmental of others - but our politicians allow themselves to be drawn into the fray by participating in the nonsensical dance that we call news-gathering. If our politicians did what the French do, shut-up about what they are doing with their nether regions when they are off the clock, there would be no story to follow.
Brilliant post and very timely. I see the similar American, tabloid mentality in England as well- primarily with their royalty. Why can't we be more like the Français? ~R~
Next time I will have the good sense to be born in a civilized country. I will not have to be subjected to tiresome stories in print and in the electronic media about other peoples' sex lives. Also, I will not be a witness to the fight for health care for all citizens. No one will listen to right wingers or left wing extremists either. In other words, I will not have to put up with a culture which values profits above human life.
American right wingers might be the lowest form or humanity imaginable.
Thanks for your excellent post!
France is a much older nation than the US. In Europe, especially Continental Europe, and in particular France and Italy, political corruption is so much a way of life that it's a scandal if a politician is honest in all aspects of his public and private life.

Carla Bruni, prior to her marriage to Sarko, was what my late mother would call a "high-class whore", available to the highest bidder and only to a high-profile, wealthy man. In fact, it was expected that, should Sarko lose his re-election bid, not content to be plain Mme Sarkozy, she'd search for pastures new. What shocked the French at the time of his marriage, was that he actually married the mattress (hence, making a 'situation vacant' available).

The privacy laws in Europe not only govern elected officials, but also cover professional athletes and entertainment people. Basically, they say that the rich and famous are entitled to their privacy and the plebs aren't.

This has been successfully challenged recently in Britain, where a judge lifted the privacy veil on stories concerning the extra-curricular activities of two well-known soccer stars who liked playing away from their wives.

Sarkozy's got form too. The fact that his bit on the side is even more Rightwing than he is rather worrying, considering the political direction Europe seems to be heading at the moment.
OMG we were just taking about them and wondering what was the latest news and you answered that. Thanks for sharing.
Not sure if I am ever shocked at adultery - maybe it is those French ancestral genes from the mere side... I am disappointed but then - as pointed well, there is so much else to be disappointed about with the political practices we suffer. There is a Gandhi quote that I think sums well - I'm trying to find it but the gist is that the way we conduct ourselves personally is the way we conduct ourselves professionally. If someone won't even consider the person that should or at least at one time was the closest to them - how are they going to be able to consider others. If they will use others for their own sexual gratification and ego - who won't they use politically and professionally to get what they want for any kind of gratification and selfishness? Just thinkin' and sayin' - well written and thought out article - interesting and excellent comparative culture study!! Still looking for that Gandhi quote...
cartouche,
I don't either.
I have my own fish, etc.

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These are rumors.

All I can say is that French people are very physically attractive, both the men and the women, the athletes, the entertainers. If there are going to be photos and stories all over the press, I would prefer seeing photos of attractive people......
Stellaa, as usual, hit the nail on the head. While European cynicism can be awfully tiring, America's need for certainty and moral authority often leaves us disappointed. Can one be a truly inspired leader and still exhibit personal failings or flaws? We know it's possible, (consider Martin Luther King). So while we can be disappointed, we often need to make difficult compromises in accepting the flaws and failings of our leaders.

What most bothers me, however, is the level of interest we take in scandalizing the private lives of public individuals. Without condoning their behavior, especially when the family or wife suffers (as does not seem to be the case with the Sarkozys), I still question how much I need to know from a "vigilant" (or maybe vigilante) media. American interest in what goes on in the bedroom is as creepy to me as trying to imagine what goes on in some people's bedrooms. Enough already.
Although the French are not necessarily interested in seeing their political leaders dissected on the public stage, they do enjoy juicy gossip. I've heard lots of intriguing stories about Ms. Bruni. When the illustrious lady first became Mrs. Sarkozy, there were a lot of jokes about her at cocktail parties, but there was always a certain amount of respect for her achievements. Yes, the French are different from you and me--but they love nothing more than a good story, especially when it concerns a controversial politician and a beautiful singing heiress.
You speak of "the notorious French indifference to the personal pecadillos of political figures." Why the negatively weighted "notorious"? I'd say it's "meritorious."
Scarabus: I was trying for light irony; I think I missed.
@ Deborah Young,

Some of the most beautiful churches in the world still stand in France and in Europe in general. What we have here is not religious "observance;" it is malicious and stupid religious fundamentalism, anti-intellectualism and flat out anti-rationalism.

Are you saying that women/men who get many divorces are bad people/politicians? Are you calling the women who get divorced bad names?

Let's not compare ourselves to the French, currently it is embarrassing. Let's hope that one day we will think like French do; it is only civilized.
@ Patricia Conover

No, they don't.
"The National Enquirer is being considered for a Pulitzer Prize for its coverage of the John Edwards affair..."

You're jesting, correct? Egad. Shoot me.

I'm not sure I understand Thoth's point about feminists and boundaries. He claims that's why they're "failing." Are feminists failing? Are we a political party not on point, suddenly?

Hmm...yes, I suppose so. As women, we've been "failing" for a long, long time, considering it seems a faux pas to even consider yourself one. Were we "winning" at some point?

And I don't think it has jackshit to do with boundaries. I wonder how we can frame feminism so it sounds more....civil? Boundaries are not always religious. Boundaries are boundaries. Who is he to define their origin? And "boundaries" in quotes, to boot. Sure, those pesky little "boundaries."

But back to your piece, I agree re: prurient interest here, but I don't hold the French in any higher esteem re: how they hold their affairs. Liars and cheats are liars and cheats.

And I don't think they're all about the French shrug, or I wouldn't know about these affairs in the first place.
There is no doubt the French enjoy chomping on a juicy scandal as much as the next countryman. And while I don't like affairs built on lies and hypocrisy, I don't know whether that's the case here. That is, Sarkozy isn't in a position to "have" to lie to the press and whether he's lying to his wife wouldn't be a top concern for me.

Yes, I'm disappointed when people conduct themselves "badly" in public or in private; when they risk hurting or embarrassing those with whom they've made some sort of compact (although embarrassment is a far milder consequence). But there is a tone of sanctimony in the approach we Americans take (just as there is frequently a tone of sophisticated superiority that Europeans take that doesn't always sit well with me) that bothers me. What are the "rules" for trusting our officials or "allowing" them to remain in office? Why do we impeach a President for lying about sexual affair (actually for parsing the meaning of "sexual relations") but we don't impeach a President for lying about WMDs? What kind of sense does that make? Do we honestly believe we are charged with judging other people according to a moral standard that apparently includes some kinds of adultery but not others, one that ultimately would prove to be far less dangerous than a lie that involves or risks the lives of others (ie, reasons to go to war).

In a perfect world, people would do right by other people. In this same world, I might choose to shield myself and my children from behavior I deemed distasteful without attempting to impose my values on others in their private lives. We don't live in a perfect world and we are not perfect beings. I may see behavior I wouldn't condone and live with it. But there are priorities to be made, judgments to be made about what we cannot, should not live with and boy, are we off the mark in this country.
Our Puritan heritage is all too alive, n'est-ce pas?
Well, since they both cheated on other people before their relationship, it's no shock that they cheated on each other. I'd prefer political leaders have basic morals, but it's not essential to do the job.
What is it about people that they are so concerned about the personal exploits of others? Is it just plain old self-righteousness and moral condemnation, or is there perhaps a hint of jealously underneath it all?
Franchement ce n'est qu'un pseudo scandale de plus... Il ne faut pas écouter la presse francaise qui ne fait que médire sans arrêts... Lisez la mode francaise, c'est bien plus intéressant :)