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OCTOBER 19, 2009 3:09PM

Is Whoopi really pro-science?

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 The View is not well-known for its accurate discussions of scientific topics.  Global warming, evolution, vaccinations, and extrasensory perception are just a few scientific topics previously butchered by one or more members of the round table with a less than adequate science education.  That's not to say that these unscientific claims went unchallenged by other members of the round table - that's the whole gist of The View - all sides of the debate, no matter how correct or incorrect, will be aired.

 This week, Whoopi Goldberg made two seemingly contradictory statements within minutes of each other.   First, she alluded to her ability to make psychic connections with the dead.  Then, she announced her science-nerdiness as a reason for producing a new game show on the Science Channel called Head Games (http://science.discovery.com/tv/head-games/head-games.html), with comedian Greg Proops as host.

As a scientist, I'm torn.  While I think its fantastic that TV (and other mainstream media) are embracing geek-dome as the new 'cool', especially as we see more and more bad science gaining too much air time, I also find it conflicting that someone doing science such a great service is clearly lacking scientific knowledge herself.  

 Here is the definition of parapsychology from http://www.skepdic.com/parapsy.html, as I find this to be very informative:

Parapsychology is the search for evidence of paranormal phenomena, such as ESP and psychokinesis. Most scientists try to explain observed and observable phenomena. Parapsychologists try to observe unexplainable phenomena. All the other sciences have led us away from superstition and magical thinking, while parapsychology has tried to find a scientific basis for such things as divination and mediumship. 

Parapsychology is widely held as an example of pseudoscience (see the aliquot post about pseudoscience for more information).   Why then, does this phenomenon and many other areas of pseudoscience, prevail in popular culture?  There are many theories, including our human nature to resist new ideas, and the comfort we hold in ideas that may seem intuitive, but in fact hold no scientific basis. Pseudoscience also fills important gaps in scientific knowledge or scientific education.  When no answer is available from scientific research and data collection/analysis, pseudoscience easily steps in.

 Specifically, ' people who believe in psychic ability possess various psychological attributes that increase the likelihood of them misattributing paranormal causation to experiences that have a normal explanation.' (Wiseman and Watt , 2006, British Journal of Psychology).  Psychology, the scientific counter-part to parapsychology, has long studied people claiming to hold psychic abilities- and no scientific link has ever been found.  Most 'psychics' are thought to be highly intuitive at best.  But a quick internet search will provide you with hundreds, if not thousands, of webpages purporting to provide evidence for psychic abilities and other parapsychological phenomena.  This is where one of the greatest lessons of a science education can be exemplified: know your source, and only obtain scientific information from reputable, trusted scientific sources like peer-reviewed journals. Otherwise, your information could be coming from anywhere - and just like investment advice or  advice from a contractor about your home's electrical system, you don't want your information from just anywhere.  You want the best source possible.

 Personally, I'm willing to overlook Whoopi's misunderstanding that she posesses some psychic ability...and I'll happily support her new game show, and the good science I hope it promotes.   I also hope shows like the View (and Oprah - who was lambasted this summer by Newsweek, for her popularizing of some bad medical advice: http://www.newsweek.com/id/200025) will look to the experts in the scientific and medical fields when these topics arise.

 

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Your blatent rejection of ESP is a sign of supreme arrogance. ESP is unfalsifiable, just as is Techno-Bast the Cat God. The idea that science is somehow superior to any other way of understanding the universe is an unresolved issue. We can have faith in it, honor it, worship it, etc, but at the end of the day it's like cheerios. Unfufilling and tasteless.
Superstition serves a very important role in our lives. Without it we wouldn't have the lottery, vegas, lucky charms or St. Patricks day. What kind of a monster wants to do without those things?
Look, science is all well and fine for the madmen who like it, but ripping on Guinan for her ability to see past the time loop is just wrong!
Andy:
Just took a look at your recent post, and clearly we are coming at this issue from completely opposite angles. You're anti-science and I'm pro-science. But I don't think that means we can't have a calm, logical discussion.
In my opinion, science views anything as possible - but if well-designed and well analyzed experimentation can disprove it, then I believe its disproven. That is where I've gained my view on ESP. Its not a personal belief, its the trust in a system that has determined its not possible.
I'm not saying some harmless superstition is a bad idea. We all have things we believe in just because we want to believe in them - its part of being human. Confusing that with science is where the problem starts.
And as for your comment:
" science is all well and fine for the madmen who like it"
I also find this to be a blatant rejection of science and a sign of supreme ignorance.
Some of those Hubble photos are pretty darn magical.

I may not believe in "God" per se, but I am the first to admit that there are many things and happenings on this earth that defy explanation, or are at least beyond the realm of our current knowledge to explain. Imagine trying to explain WIFI to someone a hundred years in the past. It would sound like hocus pocus, and the explainer might have been locked up!
Ok. I'll stay calm, and rational, for the most part if I must. First of all science doesn't disprove anything, ever. It can show a very high level of consistency from which laws can be extrapolated. It can show that 'gravity works' because we were able to successfully guide objects to the moon. It can show that if you throw a cat into the air, it will eventually hit the Earth again, provided you don't throw it faster than 17 mps from a cannon. What it can't do is prove that things will always act in such a fashion. If I do an experiment, and you do, and fifty million others do, and we all get the same results, that means we all got the same results. Great, let's try it while sleeping and see if we all get the same results in our dreams. Nope, instead of creating hydrogen, I created a Horta beast..hmmm.
We also can't replicate those results when done in a different universe nor can we be sure that for breif moments and under the right conditions the laws are suspended or change..such as in the black hole of my basement.
With ESP you can do experiments to 'disprove it' but all you're doing is proving that the people you test suck at ESP or the ESP gods hate scientists and won't perform for them.
You say that my statement is a sign of blatant ignorance...ok, you got me back for saying you're arrogant. I can take a punch for the sake of peace, so I won't say anything mean back.
Except that you probably like cats.
Ablonde:
I agree, there are many many mysteries in the universe still. Lots of phenomena defy explanation today. But that is where we all must be cautious consumers of information - a quick sell (think the snake-oil salesmen of older times) attempting to fill the gaps in knowledge, does not always provide the answers we need. Time, and advancements in science and technology, will increasingly fill these gaps with factual answers based on data and hypothesis testing.
Andy, I think you'd make a fantastic scientist.
For these reasons:
- you don't seem to take anything for granted, and you're questioning everything
- you understand the importance of hypothesis testing under controlled conditions, and the need for data to be replicated
- you're right that science is about disproving - the goal is to try to disprove your hypothesis, and if you can't, its probably fact. Science never provides 'proof', its constantly striving to disprove, which is the best we can do.
- you're correct that the act of experimentation often affects that which is being experimented upon (butchering some great old quote here, but you get the point)

I hope you'll continue to read 'aliquot' - I may be a scientist, but I'm not anti-nonscientists.
What was that old saw about the worst insult to an enemy is giving him a hug and telling him he's just like you? Never mind. I'm glad you're not anti-anti-scientists.
Just for the record I'm also anti-religion, anti-toaster, anti-cat, anti-atheist, pro-nasa, pro-nukes, pro-prostitution and pro-NRA. Not that it matters.
The real issue here is the fact that I had to defend Woopi, as any self respecting Star Trek The Next Generation Fan would do.
BTW I just faved you. Scientists need to have someone keep an eye on them.
Thanks, Andy. Happy to have a watchdog out there in the blogosphere. Especially one with a sense of humor and spirit for healthy debate.
BTW: I'm anti-toaster as well. I prefer my convection oven.
speaking of which... whoopi was in the movie Ghost with demi moore and patrick swayze. check it out, she's hilarious. she talks with the dead in the movie....