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MAY 10, 2011 7:45PM

Maria and Arnold:The Scarlet D

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scarlet-d1 I wasn’t too surprised to hear Maria kicked The Governator to the curb or that they had announced a separation, depending on the spin.  I’d always considered Arnold to be an opportunistic narcissist even before he went on to leave the state of California in worse shape than Charlie Sheen’s suite at The Plaza.  This is a man who reportedly used “donations” to fly around the world in a private jet and whose family cars are Hummers, all the while posing as an environmentalist.  A man who commuted the sentence of a political crony’s son sentenced for his involvement in a stabbing murder because, well, “that is what friends do.”  A man who commented about California Assembly Representative Bonnie Garcia, “She’s either Puerto Rican or the same thing as Cuban. I mean, they’re all very hot.”  A man who never dispelled rumors regarding his wandering hands.

As a divorced woman, I suppose I shouldn’t have been all that shocked by the fifties era comments posted by readers all over the internet but I was. 

I guess there are plenty of folks who see a miserable marriage as a lifelong sentence without the possibility of parole.  Women, especially, are supposed to suffer like martyrs for the sake of the kids who presumably don’t notice they live with two people who can’t tolerate each other and haven’t so much as exchanged hello kisses in way over a decade.  Alternative bouts of scolding and harsh criticism with silence and the cold shoulder.  A wonderful role model for a healthy relationship.

I remain perplexed by the Scarlet D. 

Recently, I experienced the “cold shoulder” from a friend who expressed disappointment I didn’t regret my divorce. I really didn’t owe an explanation but shared my kids and I were so much healthier without the dysfunctional stress in our pre-divorce household.

I’ve been thinking about this overwhelming need to disparage anyone whose name has appeared as a petitioner on a divorce summons and I’ve come up with a theory.

There was a great scene in “St. Elmo’s Fire” when Mare Winningham brought Rob Lowe home for a family dinner.  In hushed tones, the table talk turned to an acquaintance diagnosed with “the big C.”  When people hear bad news, they need a buffer, some reassurance they won’t meet a similar fate. The “Did he smoke? Did she get regular colonoscopies?” knee jerk response.

So, if you’re happily married and celebrating your twentieth anniversary, those of us who are divorced raise a glass.  If, like Maria, you’ve decided to maintain your dignity and transition to a perhaps healthier, more fulfilling life, we’re right behind you.  Maybe we can meet for a glass of wine and share stories…

As a society, we need to separate our expectations and fears from the lives of others.  Put aside the rush to judgement in favor of empathy and compassion.

  Divorce is not catching.

 

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I could never figure out why she married him in the first place. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
ATSL--

Second these emotions!

I too have trodden this bumpy path, and it's not easy even w/out kids. But what surprised me, similar to what you're saying, is how "our" friends froze me out. It's been 8 yrs and I've never heard from one--and good riddance to bad rubbish, say I.

Still, it proves to me something I pondered on recently: mostly, the world forgives a man anything (the "eligible" bachelor, "extra man," "boys will be boys") and forgives a woman nothing ("homewrecker," "what kind of mother are you," "think of your children").
So well put. The saddest part of about divorce, at least for me, was finding out who my true friends were, and, as you said, people revert into old 50s lingo. Ugh. Great post.
I've noticed that generally it's women who shun their recently divorced female friends. I think the ones who do so know, that at some level, their husbands would love to be single.

Also, I think it's great for women who feel liberated by their divorces to raise a glass in celebration. But could a man in this forum suggest doing the same? Would it be considered an acceptable statement of affirmation for a man in these pages to toast his recent liberation from marriage?
I was interested in the women who thought I was after their man when I got divorced and the married men who flirted with me. A woman out on her own and prancing around the world can be viewed as a dangerous thing. sigh....good post thanks.
My first thought when hearing about this separation was to wonder what deal was made, pre-Governator, for her to stay this long....but I really have no idea what happened, neither does anyone else except them.
As I said, I don't presume to know a thing about their relationship, but I think the 50s phrases come from feeling bad another supposedly happy marriage went kaput.
Folks like to look to another's happy marriage and it is sad when they fail (Maybe a very good idea, but sad regardless).
That said, the judgment that too often accompanies anyone's split is just ridiculous from either side.

This confused me:
"So, if you’re happily married and celebrating your twentieth anniversary, those of us who are divorced raise a glass. If, like Maria, you’ve decided to maintain your dignity and transition to a perhaps healthier, more fulfilling life, we’re right behind you."

Are you glad for happy marriages or are you saying they must be deluded? The two sentences together seem to say you feel there's no dignity for a woman in a marriage, and/or that marriage is less healthy/fulfilling, period.
Having been married, divorced and married again, I'm not really attached to either side here, it's just confusing...
Thanks for an interesting take on this.
Seeing both sides of several marriages - and divorces - convinces me that every party to a divorce has a seemingly infinite capacity for self-delusion. That includes the responders here, probably.

That being said, your statement, "Divorce is not catching." is absolutely incorrect. Look at any social or cultural group and you will see that a single divorce will often incite other people to re-evaluate their own marriage in light of what they knew about the separating couple. A single divorce will often be followed by a cluster of others as people see the possibility of a different, perhaps freer life.

Don't delude yourself that your vision of what caused any separation is reality
Just Thinking,
My toast to the happily married is not a show of sarcasm. I believe in happily ever after almost to a fault. (I do get that relationships don't always go smoothly but when unhappiness and malaise is the defining tone, it may be time to pack the bags.)
As for Maria and others who have made this difficult decision, I applaud the journey towards being whole again. Being part of what I assume was painful, perhaps one-sided relationship is lonely and tortuous.
nice job, very true
Jon Harris,
If I had a dime for every seemingly happily married man who told me I was lucky to be single...Well, at least I'd have enough to buy a Lottery Ticket! Ending an oppressive relationship of any kind is liberating, be it friendship, a work relationship, or marriage. The liberation comes from moving forward. I suppose, culturally, men may applaud a man who celebrates his divorce; women, not as much.
I agree with Brian B.: "well said."
Yeah I figured she is reinventing herself again. Her parents are both dead, she has entered her fifties, is post menopausal and doesn't feel the need to live with a man she probably outgrew a decade ago. Their kids are older; it's all good. Can't wait to see who Arnold ends up with next!
and they lived happily ever after .....
goodnight, children.
actually, according to the statistics, it might actually be contagious. lol.

liked and agree w/this viewpoint
Sane and illuminating piece. Thanks. r
Well said. Thank you. When I finally decided to leave my marriage, I felt overwhelming relief. I know I did the right thing for me, and I know that my children have experiences that will teach them to understand others better. If they are able to make connections with others because of shared experiences, that is always a good thing. The more experiences, the more possibilities. In fact, my relationships with my two sons has never been stronger--when I am honest with myself and what I need, I know I am a better person, and a better mother.
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Yeah. I am not criticizing Ms. Shriver for leaving her husband -- she has suffered for years, knowing that every business meeting, every overnight in a distant city probably meant he was about to catch some new STD.

I'm a guy, I don't understand why women marry such characters. Notice, men don't.


My advice, get into a messy divorce and make him pay. Trust me, speaking as a man -- who loves women so much I married one, -- people who cheat show who they are, who they are on the inside.

And, my guess, all he respects is money. And now, Ms. Shriver you are in a position to make him pay.

I hope you do it.
Well written. About Maria...it helps enormously if you have lots of dough.
@Henry Olyer - My understanding of California "community property" divorce law (and I could be wrong) is that everything that was accumulated during a marriage is split 50/50 in a divorce. Since Arnie did pretty well in the movie biz during the period of their marriage, Maria should get a nice piece of change (and maybe a Hummer or two) in the deal.

No matter who you are, a marriage is a tough thing to hold together in this day and age. People change over time and not always for the better.

My parents endured a lousy marriage until my father died. I and my ex-wives (I had two shots at marital bliss!) chose to move on when things went south.

I call that progress!
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