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AUGUST 22, 2009 10:19AM

To the Young People Who Write Me About Sexless Relationships

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Your stories break my heart. You all profess such love for your significant others, some of you are already engaged. Each of you think you are the only one who has written to me, each of you being so young, in your twenties and early thirties. Please know this, you are not alone. I have heard from many young people since I posted my 'sexless marriage' post.

 My spouse and I have been together many years, since our late twenties and for those first several years sex was wonderful, fun, exciting. Illness brought the end of our sex life. Nothing else. There has been much sadness and guilt to work through, seemingly endlessly at times, but still, our loss of sex has been caused by illness.

All of you who write to me, how I hurt for you. Your emails carry subject lines like, "You wrote for me", "I live a sexless life, too"  or "Will this ever get better?" and then I read how young some of you are, and in such young relationships - just four or five years, some even less. I'm honored that you choose to write and I wish to help; you all deserve more help and support than I can give over a few emails. 

Each of you seem to be on your own paths, and I can respect that (I know I am on mine), but please just consider this: without a serious intervention, medical or emotional (that may not be the correct word), it will not get better. Because if you are already not having sex at such young ages, in such early stages of marriage or togetherness... this bodes very poorly for your future. You, dear young writers, will always ache for more, yearn for sexual sharing and intimacy, and eventually you will likely start to resent the dismissal of your feelings and desires. You may harbor deep and painful anger.

Some of you, the young women who write to me, suffer deep insecurites due to never being touched and craved by your partners. The young men who write are hurt and feel like failures due to what seems like an inability to communicate and improve the situation. I am impressed by how all of try and try to make it better. None of you want this life and each of you clearly still hope for more.

All of you also write about how embarrassed you are by this problem in your relationships. How you don't talk about it with friends or family. How everyone assumes that young, healthy couples who are in love all have good sex lives. Thus, the isolation you all feel is tremendous.

If your partner is averse to sex at 25 or 30, that may never change.  And even if it does, miraculously, it may be too late for the two of you.  The emotional toll this takes on a relationship is real and dangerous.  If my spouse and I didn't have years of good sexual, intimate memories for me to rely upon, I honestly don't know if I'd still be here. None of you are creating those memories. Please consider that, too.

What I say to each of you is this: you are normal. Read it again. You are normal. What you want and desire and articulate so well is vital to healthy relationships. You are normal to want it.

I wish so much for all of you.

 

(Please trust that I will never reveal your identities or emails, but how I would love to facilitate a conversation among all of you.) 

 

 

 

 

 

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When you touch a nerve here, it does feel as though you become the custodian of a whole population's sadness and frustration. You've handled this unexpected responsibility very well, it seems to me. All best, HB
I second Hells Bells sentiments and comment. I am never as surprised by the common truths that come out as I am the overwhelming generosity and support of the community. Wise words shared, And yet.
AY ~ I know I contacted you personally when your first post came out. It IS a lot to shoulder when people connect with you. I hope people continue to reach out to each other here.

I will agree with you that these young people need to seriously think about staying in relationships that are devoid of intimacy. Now, understand this means both physical and emotional. BOTH are important. But I can personally attest to the fact that a lack of sex can lead to a very deep loss of self-worth.

Do not do this to yourselves. There is a more complete relationship out there for you! I have been utterly blessed with a soulmate who has come into my life and filled every void I ever had, and some I never knew were there.

Please keep searching ~ let go of any sense of nobility; your SELF is too important. I cannot stress this enough. You deserve to be loved and it IS POSSIBLE.

Go get it.
custodian of sexlessness. sadness & frustration. well put.
there is a religion about sex that "touches" on it but does not wallow in it. its called "tantra" .. I urge you or anyone else to look into it.. plz msg me if anyone wants more details. Ive sprinkled posts about it on here on open salon, but havent yet met any cohorts.
again I fully sympathize with your plight, but I dont see you taking steps that can "solve" it. I didnt say the steps *will* solve it, but they *could* solve it.
in tantra there is a "left hand path" and a "right hand path". one involves sex. the other does not. they are both part of the religion. both can be sacred, or profane. this subtle dichotomy still eludes you. but dont feel bad, because it eludes most everyone.
ps I have yearnings for polyamory that probably easily equal yours for sex despite having a very good sex life. somehow I still function. somehow I am not obsessed with it. the grass is always greener on the other side..
And Yet, I cannot imagine a better person to offer such wise words of wisdom. I just hope that your young readers take your cautionary words with the seriousness they deserve. It might not be what they want to hear, but it's what they need to hear.
HB - Thank you. I'm trying. I hope to at least offer what I've learned.

Cartouche - I appreciate you words. Thanks.

OM - I'm very happy for you. Congratulations! Enjoy.

Athena - I couldn't agree more.
I wish I had written this post. Well done.
I was not aware of the number of young people in sexless relationships. I was in one when I was young, and the reason I left was not because of the lack of sex. I didn't have an awareness that a good sex life was a natural reward and even a right for doing the work of being in a relationship. I'm so glad you are able to offer support to those who must find this situation as painful and bewildering as I did all those years ago. I remember thinking it was my fault. a burden I would not wish on anyone.
Thank you, AY. I've been reading your posts since the one about what it feels like to be in a sexless marriage - made me cry, and gave me a jolt when I realized that my husband might have been feeling some of the same things. Fortunately, we've managed to turn things around - happily around.

I hurt for you and hope you find solace.
You have such a supportive tone and give such wise advice. Have you considered going into counseling?
I sometimes think about my parents and their peers (aunts, uncles, etc.). As a child in the 1950's in a pre-birth control pill world I could tell some of them "had sex" more than others. Also, some of them seemed to "love each other" more than others. And depth love didn't always correlate with frequency of sex. They weren't prudish. They didn't think sex was evil. They could joke about it. They came from a time when making a living and raising families could involve alot of work (some were farmers) and sex wasn't a priority. Those in more white collar professions seemed to have more time for sex but even they didn't seem to feel entitled to party like a rock star - or deprived when they didn't.

But movie stars and rock and rollers definitely seemed to have more sex than my family and as an adolescent in the 60's, with the advent of "the Pill'" I chose to make more sex than my parent's generation my personal goal. That would be the goal for me in my generation.

Like I say, I think about those dead relatives now... they weren't all without love, although many didn't have sex that much.
BuffyW - I'm not sure if your comment is a good thing or not. I mean, I hope you don't wish you had written t due to having a similar experience. But, I think I get what you're saying. Thank you for reading.

Sirenita Lake - "a good sex life was a natural reward and even a right for doing the work of being in a relationship." I love that outlook and am so glad you wrote it here. I hope those young people read it, too. Thank you.

mynameise - From what I can deduce, you and your spouse have been through some hard things of late. I'm glad it's turned around for you both. Thank you for your kind thoughts.

Thanks, JKBrady. Your comment is also very valuable to the young people who've been reading and emailing. Thank you for it.

Lea, thank you. Both of my parents and two of my siblings are counselors/therapists. Maybe it was in the water when I was growing up. :)

noah tall, thanks for stopping by. I have no idea how much sex my long lost relatives had. No idea and can't imagine how I would have ever known as I was just a child when I knew them. You seem to have been much more clued in. Live like a rock star. Always a good plan. :)
Actually "live like a rock star" is kind of a hollow plan that eventually leads to disappointment, but I hung in there as long as I could. It's a little bit like trying to be the high school quarterback forever. I'm not sure how I deduced these things about my relatives but I did. It might have something to do with being taught to read when I was 4 and then not having the material screened or censored. The old man left all sorts of adult intellectual stuff laying around.
You are a wonderful and compassionate human being and I am humbled just to read what you've written here. May you and all the people who have written to you find a deep and abiding sense of peace and relief.
noah tall, I guess having access to adult material as a young child could lead to the knowledge you mentioned. I get that.

Thank you, Kenneth. Mostly, I wanted them all to know that they aren't alone. I appreciate your kind words tonight.
Touching and honest. Good advice. Rated.
I ache for everyone who's endured this. Great post, AY.
suggestion to "young ppl" re: sex-- try googling "sex positive". also www.tangomag.com is a good site. & I have a few posts on the subj
Thanks, Karin. I'm so sorry you've ever known this truth.

Gwen and Ash - thank you for stopping by. I appreciate the notes.

I got another message today.... so, maybe this is helping somehow.
Reading this, I feel so naive.

This was one of the big reasons behind my divorce. It lasted all of 15 mos, and there were no children to consider, and hardly any property. I left it all to him, figuring I'd rather start fresh.

My thinking was: why should I stay w/someone who doesn't want me? If I had provided for myself very well before I ever married, then what reason did I have to stay?

I didn't walk out w/out giving the marriage a huge College Try. But ultimately I couldn't stand the idea of remaining w/a man who had no interest in me sexually. Even if I remain celibate the rest of my life, at least I remain open to another chance.

AY, I'm sure you have good reason to remain in your static, sexless partnership--"better or worse, sickness and health," etc.

But if I were in my 20s, 30s or 40s, and it was my conscious choice to remain w/a mate—not even a spouse!—despite the lack of sexual intimacy, then I’d seriously consider why I thought so little of myself as to squander the prime years of my youth on someone who deliberately chose to waste them. I think doing so speaks volumes about NO (not low) self-esteem and blind desperation at never finding “another chance” again.

Take it from a 50-something woman who lost 100+ lbs and had to learn dating at the advanced age of 36. Even now, there will ALWAYS be another chance. It’s just a matter of whether you choose to take it, or not—or if you’d rather make a life of your own and learn to appreciate it and be happy w/it. A day doesn't go by that I don't thank God that I’ve got everything I’ll ever need, especially my health—and I had to work really hard to get it, but here it is. I can’t imagine that any man would’ve done as well for me as I’ve done for myself.

I’d rather be alone than waste my time on someone who didn’t want me. And even if that “second chance” never happens, I’m STILL better off waking up by myself, b/c I've made such a good life for myself that never depended on someone else for my happiness. "A kingdom in an eggshell," to quote T.S. Eliot.

Never forget that how you see the show, depends on where you sit—so maybe it’s time to change seats.
I know of this for being a member in good standing, unfortunately, and I'd like to pass the word along that there is a good sexless marriage forum / support group at:

http://sexlessmarriage.yuku.com/directory

And I fervently second your comments that if this is the way it is now, why do you expect it to be better. Most people on the slm forum above find that leaving is the only cure. There are some exceptions that prove the rule though.
And yet- you write with such wisdom and compassion and it is so kind of you to offer yourself to others struggling. I want to point some in the direction of another online forum that seems very positive and helpful:
experienceproject.com/groups/Live-In-A-Sexless-Marriage/332/forum
When you write about "young people," it makes me wonder how old you are, and what the nature of your husband's illness is? Is he comatose? Does he have a mental disability that makes him unaware of how you feel? I have to assume that you wouldn't stay with him if he actually wanted you to be miserable (or didn't care that you were.) I have found what you've written very helpful but I can't help wondering why you go without sex from others, when the reason for the sexlessness in your marriage is illness and not lack of love. If he really just can't (physically) have any sort of sex with you, but loves you and wants you to be happy, wouldn't he tell you to have sex with someone else? Please forgive me if these questions are impertinent. I don't want to cause you more pain. I just wish I could understand...
Oh, the sexless marriage is the cruelest! Move on, get a life, enjoy the love of an intimate relationship. It makes me cry to think of it. Rated
Thanks for reading, elsma03. I'm very glad things have turned out better for you. It sounds like you made the right decision for you. Thank you for sharing this.

Thanks, fauxpoet - I appreciate the info. Someone had once mentioned that site to me, but I thought he/she said it was no longer active. I will check it out, and hope others will, too.

JustJuli - your messages always make me cry. I can feel your warmth and care. Thank you. I will check into that site as well. You are a good, good woman.

Deborah, yes, wow.

Hi Eva, (I love that name) the readers I am writing about here are so young. Twenties and thirties. Alas, I am neither.
I take your questions in the spirit they were posed and thank you for writing and for your respectful caring.
My spouse is not in a coma. Please, please don't think that someone has to be so sick as to be in a coma to be sexually inactive. That is not the case with my relationship nor is it with the hundreds of people who have written to me about this. It can take much, much less to deter a healthy relationship.

The idea that a loving spouse will 'bless' an outside sexual relationship is a good one, and I've seen it happen and work, to some degree. I think it is more rare than logic suggests.

My best suggestion to you, I'm afraid, is that in this circumstance, you may just have to trust that you can't really understand, and that that, actually, is a very good thing.

Thanks for reading.
Ralph, don't cry. How I have appreciated your kind comments and PMs to me.

Thank you.
Wonderful post. My wife and I have been together since our early twenties and we are now in our mid-forties. We are blessed that our intimate lives together have basically stayed the same. Of course we aren't in our twenties anymore and we aren't young rabbits, but I guess it starts becoming quality over quantity.

The thing about successful marriage is that it's not only about sex. It's about love, mutual respect and trust. A truly loving couple sticks together no matter what.

Thanks for sharing this.
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