I have the makings of a first class pedant. From the moment I received my red Olivetti Valentine typewriter in the Fourth grade, I was fascinated by writing right. I inhaled the gospel of words from my parents, both academic types, proud that I put the comma inside the quotation marks, left infinitives uncleaved, and made two spaces between a period and the beginning of the next sentence. I knew my “its” from my “it’s,” my “theirs” and “theres” from my “they’res,” and the difference between a colon and a semicolon. It made me proud to use the language correctly, to demonstrate that I was literate and, as I matured, to understand that in many cases I was giving the correct signals to a reader so that what I wrote was easy, clear and (most important to me) above reproach. By college, I might receive a “B” on a paper because my thesis was “tendentious,” but never because there was a glitch in its infrastructure.
It has always been clear that some rules have no pragmatic basis; they are archaic and following them amounts to little more than a parlor trick, a kind of sleight of hand for the well educated. There is a substantive difference between a full colon and a semicolon, but there is no reason not to split infinitives with wild abandon, strewing rose petals and dancing wildly on the heath. It is incorrect and confusing to write about “they’re beliefs,” but absolutely inconsequential how many spaces follow a period. There are some rules, like avoidance of the passive voice, that I have never followed because I like James more than Hemingway. Stylistically, I like an elegant, Byzantine, long-assed sentence. I am not writing technical literature.
Recently, The Language Gods, who I believe are called the ALA, have begun to make changes. It is now acceptable to split infinitives and to begin sentences with conjunctions. It was rocky for me, and I flinched for a while every time I saw a sentence that began with a “But” or an “And,” but I’ve turned the corner. When the rule about the number of spaces after a sentence was changed, it took me a long, long time to remember that I needed to hit just “space” rather than “space, space.” The change seemed silly, unless someone was terribly concerned about potential blindness from excessive whiteness on the page, but I did not want to look stupid or, even deadlier, wrong. I toed the line.
Two days ago I learned that it is now acceptable to put punctuation outside of quotation marks. “I’m going to split an infinitive”, she said blithely, wielding a shiny machete. My understanding is that this has some vague relationship to computers. On this, I throw down the gauntlet. It may be archaic, pointless, and troubling to speakers of binary code, but computers, of all people, should understand the illogic involved in such a change. If people can’t write today, they aren’t aware that punctuation is supposed to be enclosed by the quotation marks. They will not smack their empty heads and cry “Eureka!” in unison because they are free at last. If people can write, they know the rule as it has existed for decades, and a new rule will create an unfair and ridiculous stumbling block on the road to fluid composition. Will we look stupid to other pedants if we continue to follow the “inside” rule? Will old-school pedants judge us if we follow the new “outside” rule? Will either option make anything one iota clearer to any reader on earth?
It will not.
Dear ALA, you’re killing me. Your killing me. I am being killed by you.
Screw it.


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I cannot and will not get on board with punctuation outside the closing quotation mark. If the language gods think that is correct or acceptable, they are false gods. Only in extremely rare instances should the punctuation go outside the closing quotation mark, as in the following example:
Did I understand Mortimer to say, "The language gods are infallible"?
The single space at the end of a sentence has to do with the advent of word processing programs and our use of fonts whose letters take up different amounts of horizontal space (e.g., an "m" takes up more horizontal space than an "i"). With old typewriter fonts, the space each letter took up was more or less the same, and we needed two spaces at the end of the sentence for ease of reading.
I love knowing other people who think about this stuff.
I will never be able to put punctuation outside a quote. I am too well-trained.
i'm guessing "some vague relationship to computers" actually means: (1) it's OK not to know the rule or be bothered to figure it out or remember it, or (2) it's even more OK to be lazy. i'm drawing the line. meet me in the bunker. xo
'Why?' asks the confused, surviving waiter amidst the carnage, as the panda makes towards the exit. The panda produces a badly punctuated wildlife manual and tosses it over his shoulder.
'Well, I'm a panda,' he says, at the door. 'Look it up.'
The waiter turns to the relevant entry in the manual and, sure enough, finds an explanation. 'Panda. Large black-and-white bear-like mammal, native to China. Eats, shoots and leaves.'
My apologies, Ann. My infrastructure compelled me.
P.S. Putting the comma outside the quotation marks has been OK in Britain for a long time, so I'm told.
I have always split infinitives, ended sentences with participles, begun sentences with "but" or "and," because I try to write the way I, and other people, speak. I've had arguments on this site about the one space/two space rule: I write here with two spaces because I like the separation between sentences - it's my page, so I'll do whatever I like - but I use one when I'm submitting something for publication elsewhere.
However, I'm a stickler about punctuation and was aghast recently when I reviewed some of my earliest writing and found punctuation outside the quotation marks, and fixed it in every single case. I don't care what the ALA says. I'm not changing my ways.
I persist in double spacing after a period, because if I tried to change now, my typing speed would drop from a gallop to a trot.
And hurrah to Persistent Muse, a fellow fan of John Warriner!
I've repeatedly gone back to one website for enlightenment on points of grammar and usage: Guide to Grammar and Writing. It's sponsored by Capital Community College and was originally put together by an English prof of theirs who must have passed away, since the website is now maintained in his memory.
I, too, favor the "Byzantine" sentence as a natural inclination, and struggle against it, but only half-heartedly. It probably comes from reading too much Dickens when I was an impressionable teen.
I think I wandered off the point.
Her example,
Did I understand Mortimer to say, "The language gods are infallible"?
is a great way to explain the connection with programming. The question mark modifies (or refers to, if you prefer) the clause "did I understand," rather than the statement inside the quotes. If the question mark were inside the quotes, the meaning would be different because the question mark would modify the statement inside the quotes. In programming (or any mathematical symbology), this kind of distinction occurs all the time.
Muse - I have Warriners ( my dad's), Strunk & White and various other hallowed tomes, and i use them. Sometimes, when i am sad and need distraction, i diagram a sentence or two. Or should i say, a sentence or two is diagrammed in these parts?
Matt - spoken like the son of a lawyer. :)
Christine - that is a great book. I gobbled it like candy when it came out.
Susan - thank you, THANK YOU for the explanation. That was very gratifying. We can grow old together pondering these things that no one else really cares about.
sweetfeet - thanks. :) They do spend an awful lot of time training us, only to throw us to the wolves every time they get a wild hair.
Bernadine - that would drive me nuts. I worked for someone obsessed with "em dashes" (and i know you know what they are) to the point where I know that I do not insert then when I should just to rebel against this person I will never see or hear from again. These things leave scars.
Kathy - yes. Beautiful comment; kind of a micropost.
Don - nicely done. And yes, it can be maddening and, dare I say, pointless?
Candace - I am SO in the bunker. How will i ever find time to write anything if I'm keeping up with all this garbage?
Matt - I love the book, and that part of the book. Grammar is the erotica of the pedant. ;-)
digitalzen - Strunk & White is my personal favorite. As for the Brits, I suppose that since it's really their language, we should at least respect their preferences if not follow their lead.
Clark - I love you, man.
Linnn - grammar, like manners, should never be used as a weapon. It is supposed to be civilised and courteous. that was just rude.
Doug - I was in elementary school in the days of phonics. About which, blech.
Indelible - I also kind of enjoy sentence fragments, although not in work-related expository kinds of things. I guess I have a "freestyle" rubric and a "words for money" rubric.
janie - I totally get it. It's like the Talmudic scholars debating how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.........
Cranky - you clearly also have two rubrics. i wonder how many of us do. I think, visually, I prefer two spaces but it took me so long to make the change that I can't go back or alternate now without having to go back into therapy.
Lainey - you won't like the answer. i think it's maybe because we are getting old and things are changing around us. Next thing you know, we'll be yelling at the kids to get off of our lawns........
Snippy - it IS the MLA!! Now I feel like an idiot. I think i always thought (because i grew up here in Michigan) that the "MLA Stylesheet," which I used with religious fervor, was the "Michigan Style Sheet" and that there was some "American" version that was national. I can't change the post at this point or all of the comments will be bizarre, but you are right, and I thank you.
Torman - that rule is really important in dialougue writing, but I think writing it well is hard even if one knows grammar and punctuation inside and out!
Stim another comment elegantly sufficient enough to be a post-let on its own. As for "boldly going," that was the very phrase my mother used to illustrate the split infinitive. I don't know how they taught it in the old, Kirk-less days.
Vendela - you are welcome to join Candace and me in the Grammar Bunker.
Aengus - thank you for another beautiful, literate comment. This post seems to be bringing that out in folks. I am not quite as old as the generation of which you speak; I was raised in the crazy 70s when rules were broken wholesale in every aspect of life. We Questioned Authority. I think my pedantry stems not from the view that I was required by authority to use language well, but because I was raised in a family of passionately literate people.
Alysa - it should be a living thing, like the U.S. Constitution and various holy books. I just wish the reasons for the evolution made more sense at times.
Yet there are those who never learn the rules, and what they make changes everything. If I'd lived in the end of the 19c and wanted to be an artist, firstly, I couldn't, because I have no Y chromosome. Secondly, if I'd been ballsy enough to disregard that–something I'm not–I'd probably have gone to the academy, because that was where you went, unless you were Cezanne, who didn't know three point perspective from a noodle, and whose paintings were rejected from every salon exhibit he ever entered.