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I write, I read, I clean up after people and I worry about things. I have a chronic insufficiency of ironic detachment. My birthday isn't really December 31; it's March 22 but it won't let me change it.

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JULY 23, 2012 5:13AM

Student Loan Debt: No Way Out

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This is the hardest post I’ve ever had to write, about my deepest source of shame and guilt. A quarter of a century ago I borrowed an astronomical amount of money to go to law school, and I will quite probably die owing enough money to buy a small island.

When I read this, I was so sickened by the idea that people were killing themselves over student loan debt that I decided to “come out” about my own situation. I understand the desperation that comes from having no visible means of escaping a terrible situation, and the added intensity of knowing that you brought it on yourself by making a bad decision. No one, though, should ever think that their life is worthless because of a debt. Even a crippling one.

My story may or may not be typical, but it does prove how easily someone can get where I am today with a little lack of planning, a few unforeseen events and a tough economy. After graduating from college, I had no idea what to do, and I applied to law school. I was an unhappy, insecure person and I had a notion that practicing law was a “real” thing to do as opposed to getting a doctorate in English or trying to make it as a writer. My parents thought law school was a terrible waste of my actual talents, and my friends thought it was a terrible idea based on my temperament. Undaunted, I took the LSAT, got into several schools, and picked the most expensive school, in the most expensive city. There were loans available, and I borrowed the maximum amount for my first year – it just covered tuition, rent, food, books and a subway pass.

What was I thinking? How could I not have understood that I was taking on major debt, and that I would be able to pay it back only if I got a lucrative  law job?  The answer is that I was pretty sure that there were lots of jobs, and that whatever it was that lawyers did, I would do it for the rest of my life. I could not imagine myself ever getting married or having children; I saw myself working full tilt until I retired, or dropped dead. I’d live simply, and after a few years of repayment I’d be done.

For three years I kept borrowing money. I hated law school more and more, and I was pretty sure I was making a huge mistake, but I didn’t think I could get out of it. If I didn’t finish and pass the bar, I couldn’t get the job to pay back the loans. By the time I was welcomed to the Massachusetts Bar in 1990, I was a clueless, patently ambivalent candidate competing for jobs against people with more passion and the desperate edge that comes from having a family or a lifestyle to support. One interviewer was kind enough to tell me that I needed to be more confident in interviews or I would never get a law job

I did the right thing. I cut my losses. I moved back to Michigan, opened a solo practice, and made all my loan payments. Then I got married, got pregnant, and had to be on hospital bed rest for 2 months. With no law partner, I had to give away my case load to other firms. Within a year I couldn’t afford to keep the office open. My husband was earning good money and we decided that I could work part time from home, and mostly be a mom for as long as possible. Although it was not his debt, but he felt strongly that we should honor my obligation, and we kept paying on my loans.

Then his job changed dramatically and we had to make do on about half of our previous income with consumer debt and a mortgage based on the “old,” income. He took another job that showed great promise, but which has been severely affected by the economy. We scaled back. We stopped taking vacations, we rarely eat out, and he drives a car without air conditioning or a front bumper.

We have enough. We have a roof over our heads, enough to eat, health insurance, and cars that run, for which we are immensely grateful. What we don’t have is more than we absolutely need. It’s been years since I could afford to pay the $1,000.00+ each month owed to my student loan creditors. I defer, I forebear, I default, I “rehabilitate,” and the amount billows into an ever-larger and more terrifying obstacle.

The Reasonably Prudent Person would say, at this point in the story “that’s all very common, and life is tough, but why don’t you just get a full time job and make up the difference?” The reason is that around the time it became clear that our income wasn’t just going to “bounce back,” my parents both developed serious and chronic health problems, and I gradually became a caretaker and advocate. I still work part time, I always have, but a great deal of my time is spent taking care of my parents.

The RPP would also say this: “If you worked full time, you could pay your debt. You made a promise to pay, and the way to do that was by making sure that you were earning enough to keep that promise. It would be nice if we could all just decide not to honor contracts because ‘something came up,’ but that’s a slippery slope that would lead to financial instability and which would be totally unfair to the millions of people who do what they are supposed to do.” Even if you are not a law and order/business type, you are probably thinking that many women have to work terrible hours at terrible jobs to feed their families, and that there is no way for them to stay home with their kids, or take care of elderly relatives. To both I say, “true,” and “amen.”

I also say this: no matter how wretched and guilty I feel about my debt, and how deep my shame and despair, I have only one life, and I’ve made a choice. Every day I am sure, once again, that having the time to care for my parents is more important to me than working full time solely for the purpose of repaying my debt. We might make other arrangements. We might find someone else to do the things I do, but I can’t imagine handing them off. They are ill, they are often exhausted and demoralized, and I love them and want to take care of them.

That is a controversial choice. I get that.

I have never hidden from my creditors, or lied to them. I have been berated by collection agents, had my tax return taken, and my bank account emptied, all of which I accept as the consequence of a really bad decision. I will certainly resume making payments the minute I can; I always have. The thing is, even if I were willing to take a full time job starting tomorrow morning I would have to find something paying upwards of $50,000.00 a year to cover job-related expenses, pay people to do the things I do now, and pay enough on my loans to make a dent. In this state, in this economy, there aren’t many such opportunities for me. (And I’ve looked). Even if I found such a job, many employers now run credit checks on prospective hires, and my credit rating speaks of dishonor, irresponsibility and bad character.

I would, frankly, be better off if I had accidentally struck and killed someone while driving. I could have done my time, made profuse apologies, moved far away and started over. There is a societal cap on the amount of punishment appropriate for that kind of mistake. It ends. There is no such cap on student loan indebtedness.

The truth is that we live in a society that values money and banks over people. We also place no collective value on taking care of those in need, even if it would lead to long term social and economic benefits. Every time I intervene to make sure my parents take their meds, understand discharge orders or get to their appointments, I save Medicare the cost of ER visits and hospitalizations. If student loan debt could be meaningfully reduced for folks taking care of chronically ill family members the long-term savings would be great. (And by “meaningfully,” I do not mean the current system in which a loan can be deferred with a heavy wallop of accrued interest and an exponentially bloating balance).

We also live in a country that values consumerism over education, which is why I could discharge my considerable debt in bankruptcy if I had spent the money on shoes, travel and restaurant meals. Because I spent the money on an education, it is not dischargeable. As I said, there is no cap, and no end.

I guess I’m a deadbeat. I’m also a wife, a mother, a daughter, a neighbor, a friend, deeply flawed and totally human. I made a big mistake for which I will pay, literally and figuratively, until I die. Every day, I will balance the deep satisfaction and moments of grace that come from caring for my parents against the knowledge that I am not earning enough to pay my debt. I will certainly not commit suicide, but I will suffer deeply because of the mistakes I made half a lifetime ago.

There are few situations in our society in which a youthful mistake mandates a life sentence as an indentured servant with no way out. If we can show compassion towards people convicted of actual crimes, and believe that they are capable of rehabilitation, we would do well to show the same compassion to people whose worst mistake was being foolish about money at age 18, 20 or 25.

Nothing is going to change for me, but if there were reforms that kept even one person from shame, despair or suicide over debt, it would make this public confession worthwhile. I won’t see such a change in my lifetime, but I can hope that student loan programs might someday be restructured to allow for the entirely foreseeable exigencies of life from a “down” economy to a chronically ill family member, and that schools and lending institutions would be discouraged from lending more than a borrower can easily repay in a lifetime.

Money is never more important than human life.

Never.

 

 

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Very courageous and a worthy read.

I do think some good comes out of this, however. More parents (like myself) who could afford or co-sign loans for 4-year universities out-of-the-gate for our high school seniors have opted (demanded?) that our children go through community college for 2 years first. Many benefits from this arrangement for the child, parent, local community college, and ultimately, the 4-year university.
Forgive student loan debt or change the rules to allow for elimination in bankruptcy.

Enough is enough with banks and money.

r
You might have more company in this situation than you know. It's one nobody talks about, especially in the academic community. One of my buddies, in his fifties, a tenured full professor running a department, is still paying off his RISD grad school loans from decades ago, and renting. Even as he provides an art school education (try making money at that career to pay back a giant loan) to the next crop of debtors.

I have more to say about the banking industry than what is decent and proper to say in a comment stream, but really it boils down to they suck. It absolutely boggles my mind that there is no one getting up into their business and forcing changes in their practices. Student loans, mortgages, they have their fingers stuck in everybody's life one way or another, and it's nearly impossible to opt out. Everyone loathes and hates them, but still nothing gets done.
Thank you for sharing this honest, heartfelt piece, Ann. It is a crushing burden on so many people. I agree, one can't put a price on the value of helping elderly relatives, being their advocate and giving them love and care when they need it most.
"Deadbeat?" Far from it. Life happens and part of the problem is that student loan debt is not forgiven, and as you said, "We also live in a country that values consumerism over education, which is why I could discharge my considerable debt in bankruptcy if I had spent the money on shoes, travel and restaurant meals. Because I spent the money on an education, it is not dischargeable. As I said, there is no cap, and no end."
This piece deserves a much wider audience. The problem is more prevalent than one would think. As greenheron said, people just don't talk about it. Good and brave piece, Ann. ~r
This is vital reading. I agree...it needs a wider audience. There should be other options for repayment and forgiveness. You have made the best choices in choosing people you love and writing. Thanks Ann...
You've told my story, much better than I ever could.
This is very well written Ann - as are all of your posts. Whenever I read about this problem, it makes me realize how very lucky I was to graduate without such a burden.

Would you consider posting this to the alternate site lorianne created for us - Our Salon?. You'll see a lot of familiar names and you don't have to fight the spammers for attention.

http://oursalon.ning.com
I took out $21,000 (which blew up into over $60,000 in interest) to earn my master's degree and get a teacher certification. I never made enough money to repay but a pittance here and there and I understand about the forebearances. I got them for years. There are some programs whereby teachers could get loans repaid by working in low income school districts, which I did, however, I could never qualify for any of them because my loans were made prior to 1998. My service was as good as any younger teachers', I assure you. Now that banks have been saved by our tax dollars because they were "too big to fail," I refuse to be cowed by this debt. Banks no longer have the integrity to make me feel guilty anymore. They don't play fair then neither do I. I am going to live my life. Bravo to you for this courageous post and for caring for people instead of money.
This says something about the rising cost of higher education too. The increases I've seen since I was in school are staggering. My loans were manageable--not many years later, they wouldn't have been.
I couldn't agree more. Our society is so flawed in how they evaluate people and their use of money. The credit score system is so deeply frustrating and illogical; it makes no sense that this one mistake would follow you all of your life. But being in HR, I don't hire people every day whose credit didn't measure up to the pre-set level of "acceptable". Personally, I've had a banker tell me that he couldn't figure out why my score is what it is - we paid cash for everything for a few years, and it looks like the system will punish us for that literally forever too. You are very brave and a good daughter: most would not realize that their parents are more important than their monetary identity.
I commend you for your choices. Love trumps everything.
Add to this really silly rules. I got my grad school loans at 5%, because I had outstanding undergraduate loans at 5%. I had a few payments left (about $200) to pay off my undergrad loans. I deferred so I'd get the good rate each year I was in grad school, instead of paying instead of 7-9%. Did it make any sense to privilege me over people who'd gone to college when rates were higher or paid off their loans? None that I can see.

Would you have been able to pay off your loans at 5%? Maybe.
Your RPPs aren't very reasonable. And since when is finding oneself a mistake? We're all supposed to go from birth right to Perfect Career Path? Any choice that helps you find about yourself is a good one. At some point society has to take responsibility for its mandates.

But we can't value both capitalism and human life. It's an either/or situation. That's the long, slow painful lesson we are learning now.
Dear Ann, I understand this because I am in the same boat. It's a cycle of hell that will not cease until I do. With compassion for our younger selves, Drema
Wow. Such an important piece. I'm sitting here realizing how incredibly fortunate I am that I didn't have to take out a loan for my grad school education. Thank you for sharing this.
It would be interesting to see the reaction of some commenters if you took out large student loans to further your education to become a "banker".

(And what exactly is this mythical "banker" that everyone despises?)
Read and appreciated.
"A bank is a place where they lend you an umbrella in fair weather and ask for it back when it begins to rain." -- Ben Franklin.

Thank you for writing this post. Your conclusions on the values we show through our laws are accurate. How soon until the return of debtor prisons?
Ann, Your piece touches a nerve in all of us. We should mandate financial counseling--outside of academia--for all students contemplating major student loans. Have you checked into eligibility for Income-Based Repayment? I wrote about it here: http://open.salon.com/blog/steve_klingaman/2009/07/30/finally_student_loan_debt_relief_arrives_for_many.
The link was cut off. Maybe this will work: here.
We have paid the price of the myth of economic optimism...The next job is always better and always pays more...And there is always a next job option. Surprise! I have managed my education without loans, but still had to pay over $37,000 in medical debt from hospitalizations without insurance. Now I am a work orphan of the "recession" which is a DEpression for those like me. Life is full of unexpected things, though. I refuse to let the chaos define me. I didn't "do" this to myself, but I am just as drowned, and just as blamed. The trick is to not fall for everyone ELSE'S analysis of YOUR life. We do the best that we can; mistakes will be made. And those of us who never give up will eventually dig our way out. So don't be so hard on yourself. At least you're still in the hunt...
What a predicament! Your courage in writing this has probably made an impact in more readers' lives than you'll ever know. When I was trying to resolve my mortgage issues with my bank, I was so conflicted because of my traditional Midwestern upbringing that demands "you borrowed it? You pay it back, no excuses." Oddly enough, it was a person with whom I had a running debate going about conservatism versus liberalism who explained to me that I should not go broke trying to pay the mortgage. He said I should do exactly what the corporations and other business institutions do: walk away and cut my losses. It took me 18 months to get my head around that idea, but I was fortunate to be able to negotiate a short sale with a$20,000 "forgiveness." By that time, I felt it was the least the bank could have done and no longer felt guilty about anything.

Lezlie
Well written piece. I'm a bit confused about why you feel guilty at all though. After everything that's happened with banks the last few years...you do realize they hold the note on these loans...? So, brighten up. ;)





Rated.
i feel no shame for my student loan debt.

i gave up shame at the time i learned that the IRS is more willing to work withing a person's actual financial situation than the student loan people are.

i gave up shame when i told them they could be paid back half the amount with several years back tax returns and they said no, the money MUST BE RECIEVED ON THE SAME DAY to count as a payoff. yeah. so, 4 checks coming in within the month totalling X, no good. ONE check coming in totalling X, that would have worked. i dont understand their incentive for keeping our debt on their table, but it must be a big one.

gave the shame up for GOOD when people can buy fat diamonds, fancy vacations, cars and houses they cant afford, clothes they never wear, dishes they never eat from, etc etc etc - and declare bankruptcy, keep the house and the car and all the rest too, but be out of debt.

but i, who borrowed 15K in 1996 or so, am out of luck. there is no shame in not playing a game that was not explained before you took it on. no shame in finding that the rules have changed, and the board has shifted, since you took on that debt.

stick it to the man, i say.
I will pass this on to my daughter. She just graduated with her BFA and has more than a few friends who have decided to delay adulthood by going to graduate school via hefty student loans. While I DO wish we lived in a society that valued education for the sake of education, in reality the only reason to take out a substantial loan is in true anticipation of financial gain, and in my daughter's field (art), that idea is ludicrous. Although part of me wishes (dreams) that I could provide her with the funds necessary to pursue an advanced degree and instruction in the field she loves and in which she possesses great talent, I'm also so very proud of the fact that she works two jobs and at 22 is pretty much self-supporting, with a practical head on her shoulders. I will be interesting to see how her artistic side/practical side get along as she makes her way, but she's already ahead of me!
My step-daughter owes $90,000.00 in student debt, an amount which she will never earn in this lifetime. Some of us acknowledged early on, if we cannot afford it, we won't do it. So I didn't get the masters degree, etc. etc. because I-could-not-afford-it. When did common sense be considered bad and delusional thinking applauded? rated.
I'm so sorry - this is such a hard situation. Thank you for your courage. It sounds like you are working your hardest to make the best of the situation.
I too, will pay student loans until I die. If I die before I've paid them all... I win.
This story is very common, Annie. My son-in-law is currently battling this. The tuition situation in our country is deplorable. The pressure to get a top-notch education clashes with our financial prudence, and unless I'm mistaken, tuition costs have risen far faster than inflation. Not only do young people begin their careers with a ton of debt, but it often forces them to take jobs that they don't want simply for the money, instead of taking a chance and doing something innovative. It has a corrosive effect on the economy (unless you consider the hiring of new debt collectors to a positive).

Hold your head high.
You borrowed an "astronomical" amount? No you didn't. The ability of rich men to make regular everyday people feel guilty about trying to scrape by and have a few extra paltry pennies at the end of the day, or better themselves in some marginal fashion, is neither new nor remarkable. What is both is the sheer size of the RIPOFF of rich men in our own time. It boggles the mind, and can only be meaured in truly astronomical sums, the likes of which not even the Pharaohs could have dreamt of. Buck up.
...and it's a hinky comparison to begin with.
Ann:

I have to echo what Steve Klingaman said, I am quite sure you would qualify for the Income based repayment program (federal). It reduced my loan from $350 a month to $150. There is another program (and you sort of start from scratch) but you get your massive loan payment reduced to an affordable level, and you pay that for ten years. At the end of ten years, whatever amount left is then forgiven.

Only hitch, you can not miss any payments. That's a hard hoe to row, but it is a feasible way out. Those with extremely high debts benefit most from this program (and grab it while it is still there). I will have my loan paid off before 10 years, even at the reduced rate so I didn't qualify, but it sounds like you do.
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Heard a discussion the other day on NPR about this problem. One man interviewed was still in medical school and would owe half million - that's right, $500,000 - when he finally finished his training. It's insane.

Your piece on this is eloquent, as usual, Ann, and very brave and generous.
I commend your courage in writing this. It's outrageous, but sadly commonplace. Something's got to give.
Ann, I commend your courage. It's not just that we ask 18 to 22-year-olds to decide on career choices; some of us were making poor choices well into midlife, which is when I went for a second master's degree, blithely assuming I'd crawl out of debt after I graduated, because I'd done so before. Even bankruptcy doesn't help, as you noted. I'm on some special income-based program now, and the student loan person assured me that any outstanding loan remaining in this program would be forgiven in 25 years. So I have a new reason to live to be 76! Many of us carry heavy loads--I hope in some way yours is lighter for having shared it.
i hesitate to write about this in a post for reasons which will be obvious, but i hope it vindicates you from your "deadbeat" status:

I work in a "cottage industry" connected to Big Oil. the big guys are our customers. The biggest of the big is a personal pain in my butt because they do not like to pay their bills in a timely fashion. they use dispute clauses in their contracts to delay payment an additional 30 days, Even If They Lose The Dispute. I am personally disgusted with them because it is so obviously strategic, i can only conclude one motive: Some accountant got paid a load of money to tell them exactly how much money they *MAKE* BY NOT PAYING THEIR BILLS. for every day those millions of dollars stay in their accounts, the more money they make in the long run.

That, my dear, is dispicable. no matter what the asshole says to you from the other end of those collection calls, to make money hand over fist by denying payment for services rendered, is not the same as forgoing payment on yesterday's dream to keep the lights on today.

And this same corporation which makes money by denying payment, backs the politicians shouting from microphones that the average American should be ashamed of himself and herself for daring to make the mistake of believing corporate america when it said "get a degree --any degree--and we will have a job for you"
Know who the deadbeats are. You are not.
Ann, this is a touchstone for the Revolution that I feel is clearly afoot here: We need to know our basic values are, really, sound. I just commented on another post that calls out the right's attempt to reshape this very strong sense of commitment to education; in their design, they feel that if you under budget, the real stuff will yet be there. Or privatization. These people do not understand their own rhetoric, blurting out about mortgaging the kids' future in one breath, in spending too much of the Federal budget. But that's their game. They played the same bad joke with Healthcare.
Well, as bad as this is, we can at least see what does work. And will.
For people like my son -- and you, with many others in the same boat of debt, the system should allow for creative solutions, like working off the debt. The Federal government subsidizes huge grants in tutoring and mentoring programs. Why not allow educated people to share their knowledge with others, thereby paying down debt? My God, in the Middle Ages they had the Guild system to educate willing apprentices. What have we learned? This is how union, military jobs work. There are solutions. OWS does have a valid point. Let's listen to what is proven. Answers surface when rhetoric ebbs.
Thank you so much for sharing your heartfelt story. Highly rated.
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“I made a big mistake for which I will pay, literally and figuratively, until I die. Every day, I will balance the deep satisfaction and moments of grace that come from caring for my parents against the knowledge that I am not earning enough to pay my debt. I will certainly not commit suicide, but I will suffer deeply because of the mistakes I made half a lifetime ago.”

While we can all be profoundly grateful that you continue to feel a deep personal responsibility for this obligation, it is nonetheless a debt long not discharged, and therefore a troubled asset, and perhaps a potential bad debt, for any who loaned you the money. Among all the “I”s and “me”s of the foregoing are the “we”s and “those” associated with those who took the risk and advanced you the funds that you did not have before going to law school.

Those “we”s were people like me – taxpayers. They were also you and your husband. Unfortunately, they will also be your children and probably your grandchildren and my children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren. They are also those who now declare that somehow you didn’t, or couldn’t, have known what you were doing when you borrowed the money and thereby justify the situational ethics to “stick it” to me, or to you, or, in the silliness of their argument, even to themselves.

Again, let me emphasize my admiration for your expression of responsibility. It's sad that it negatively affects the quality of your life.

However, it's never a mistake to be a mother, a partner in a committed family community that raises children, or a family caregiver. Each, in their way, is an aspect of productive citizenship, especially in the context of our huge social welfare infrastructure.

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However, I do want to pivot on your case in a way that may be enlightening regarding the counter-productivity of national student loan programs.

Our national government makes 21.6 million loans every year for an average of $4,250 each under the subsidized and unsubsidized portions of the Stafford loan program alone. That’s a total of over $90 billion annually. This doesn’t count Pell Grants, Parent PLUS Loans, Grad PLUS Loans, Perkins Loans, or any of the other smaller grant and loan programs at the national level.

Let’s put this in perspective:

NASA’s annual budget is about $18 billion. The EPA’s annual budget is about $9 billion.

The 21.6 million loans may represent approximately 10.8 million students. Presuming an even student population distribution over 50 states, that works out to 216,000 students per State, which is enough to fill five, huge, 46,000-student university campuses in each State.

How many States have five such large universities? None of which I know. That probably implies that these loans also go to students at community colleges, extension services, and a host of technical, career, or professional schools that can qualify their courses as ‘undergraduate’ (i.e., potentially leading to a bachelor’s degree.)

There are about 20.3 million students in higher education in America. This implies that approximately half of them receive loans through just these two Stafford Loan programs.

Anyway one looks at this, the federal government subsidizes a huge portion of the current demand for a college education. This all sounds wonderful. In fact, this loan program is remarkably effective since the loan qualifications are nearly non-existent, the borrowing rates are low, and the repayment terms are one small step above not having to reimburse the government at all.

Again, millions of students attend colleges and universities under such funding. Apparently, they would not be able to acquire any education at this level otherwise.

So, what possibly could be wrong with this?

In easing access to a college education on this scale, the government has greatly increased demand for it. That carries a very great price.

Think about it. Over ten million attend under just one loan program who otherwise might not. This is massive.

This gigantic increase in demand for a college education causes what it must in any market. It increases costs by creating a need for an additional supply of educational capacity over what a free market might otherwise provide.

Consequently, I propose to you that the intervention of our national government in the market of education beyond high school has much to do with the fact that increases in college tuition rates have outpaced inflation by multiples approaching ten. In turn, an understanding of this then easily leads to a comprehension of why student debt has increased so much recently. In fact, student debt now exceeds credit card debt in our country.

It also leads to an understanding of why saving for college is nearly a futile activity these days; and why you have participated in a scheme which likely will make college less affordable than it otherwise might have been for your children and my grandchildren. It should also lead to an understanding of how trying to achieve equal outcomes for all through socialist programs implemented through national government fiat often destroys what otherwise might be a better regulated market.

However, I am confident that it won't.
You almost have to die. I nearly did. After 20 years of chasing my 3rd attempt to rehabilitate my loans of 1988, I was laid off permanently when Michigan's economy dropped out in 2008. My heart gave out. I could not walk half a city block without needing a 30 minuet nap.

Lucky for me I am a veteran, so Government dumped in a quarter of a million dollars heart operation and I dam near died on the operating table. Survived it, but on disability for the rest of my life with no hopes of even being able to try to rehabilitate my loans, let alone get them paid off. And yes, my disability is being garnished 15 percent (the max). Try living on 1014.00 a month.

I am at the veterans home now, Trapped here until I die. Imprisoned because congress allowed the industry to run rampant without any oversight in the 1980's, and then as a result, took away all consumer protections (including the bankruptcy rights we had at that time).

This is not the America I put my life on the line for, for 6 years.
Fine exposition Ann. I can clearly see how once you incurred that big debt in your first year, you literally had to keep doubling down. Then life intervenes. I went through university in the 70s and came out with what seemed then a sizeable loan. But compared to today's students, it was a pittance. Something is severely out of whack is in cases like your own, you spend a lifetime of scraping by for what seemed to be a good idea at the time. And it's severely out of whack if it deters young folks from getting a better education.
It's obscene how much colleges expect students to shoulder financially so they have the outside shot of earning a living wage. Something needs to change. Universities need to be reformed. R.
The thing is, if you could discharge a student loan through bankruptcy, then nobody would be willing to lend money for student loans. Because nobody has the assets to cover them when they graduate. And while it would probably be just as well if *YOU* had never bothered to get a law degree, that's not always the case for people who are going to school for some reason other than because they can't figure out what else to do with themselves.
Don't think you're alone, Ann. I borrowed $1k nearly 35 years ago and ECMC is trying to collect 35 years' of interest on a student loan which I've repaid via the education dept taking my federal income tax monies and withholding wages from an employer I worked for during the latter 90s and they still refuse to account for these offsets which amount to over $5,000.00 paid toward the original loan of $1k.
Which is another reason why I'll emphasize and encourage my children to retain employment prospects, they'll probably be better off, financially and employment-wise, to attend community colleges or trade schools which allow accreditation toward earning undergraduate degree programs offered at public or private universities.

Most college grads now start out with approx $30,000 in debt. What's worse is when these grads can't find suitable employment for which they've earned their degrees.
If it's any consolation, I have amassed an extraordinary amount of student loan debt because I did what I was told to do: go to school, get my education, and get a job. No one ever said not to get my education if I had to take out student loans, but without the education, I can't get a job. It's a catch 22.
I agree with you completely. Thank you for sharing your story with us. I know it must have been extremely difficult, dealing constantly with the pressures of loss and uncertainty. As for honoring your obligations because of a promise you made before life happened... why doesn't this logic apply to our capitalist overlords? How come they get bailed out with billions of dollars of our money when they can't pay their bills, whereas we get progressively fucked if we fail to pay all of ours on time? I'm glad you decided to speak out. I wish more people would; the only way anything is ever going to change is if all the people who are fed up with the status quo realize they're not alone, and that far from it, they're actually in the majority.

Good luck to you.
Thanks for sharing your situation; it is more of a national disgrace than it is yours. We like to think of how much more civilised we are nowadays that "Debtor's Prisons" were abolished, but maybe that is an illusion. Since "Schools" are for , and by the public , maybe it is time that "Private Enterprise " should be banned from the education system, except as suppliers.
the trouble with bankrupcy is that an education is a lifetime asset. it is possible that one could declare bankruptcy and still be able to enjoy the fruits of the education.

a sane policy is to educate young citizens for free, but only admit to university by a combination of examination and performance history. this is socialism, of course, i don't suggest it to americans with any hope of agreement.

but how else to give the nation the talents of the best, who are not necessarily the children of the rich?
Thank you, Ann. My deferments end in December. My devils dance begins soon.
Thank you, Ann. My deferments end in December. My devils dance begins soon.
In a country that valued character and substance over consumerism and reality television, there would be a system of national service to pay off state-subsidized education loans. We have to hire general medical practitioners trained in India and Pakistan because the cost of loans - even for doctors - precludes then from entering family practice.

The bare fact of the matter is that we give lip service to education, but give the process itself little support. Then we complain about all those furriners takin' our good ol' Murrican jobs.

Hypocrites.
In a country that valued character and substance over consumerism and reality television, there would be a system of national service to pay off state-subsidized education loans. We have to hire general medical practitioners trained in India and Pakistan because the cost of loans - even for doctors - precludes then from entering family practice.

The bare fact of the matter is that we give lip service to education, but give the process itself little support. Then we complain about all those furriners takin' our good ol' Murrican jobs.

Hypocrites.
It is time to be both more creative and more aggressive in seeking remedies. Didn't Malcom say something about not being too thankful to sit at the dinner table if there is nothing on the plate?

My own son is about to enter a very good state school. Fortunately, 15 years ago I purchased a prepaid tuition plan. Still, the non-tuition part of his four year education is predicted, today, to cost more than $50k. Again, this is a state school, and he has lived, and we have paid, in this state for all 12 years of school.

Here is the rub: the people who are getting over on us, on you, Ann, and others, are those who have, for 30 years, advocated keeping their precious taxes low. They are the thieves and should be treated as such. Today, the public university in town costs 20x what it cost when I was in school in the mid 70s. You tell me if you median earnings in your state have kept up with that. If they haven't, then you have been the victim of property crime.

We've come up with the solution: leaving. My child has a second passport, and when it comes time, he will book a flight out of here and throw the US passport in the trash. There is no way to connect the one passport to the other and leaving this country will be the best investment my child ever makes.

BTW, I hope all readers know that you can attend graduate school in Western Europe for almost zero. And you don't have to live here and dodge bullets at the movies.

Rise up, or leave. But do not fund, through your indebtedness, this country, these leaders and these people.
You have to ask yourself who benefits from a poorly-educated, ignorant population that is easily led around by their superstitions and other prejudices. Not the people themselves - and surely not the country as a whole.
This is a society-wide problem. We have corporatized education. A favorite factoid in American culture is that high school kids MUST go on to college if they hope to earn enough to live on. The guidance counselors at my kids' high school, and those at the high school where I worked, did nothing to publicize jobs (in all fairness, probably because none exist outside the retail sector.) Instead, high school guidance departments spend their time flogging college and university as the next step.

Why? Follow the money. Kids kept out of the workforce until age 22 or 25 or 28 will suppress the true unemployment figures. Kids who borrow money to pay for their education can be counted on reliably for decades to fill the coffers of the already-wealthy. I was shocked, in the year 2000, when I returned to school for a post-baccalaureate teaching degree, followed by my M.Ed., how easy it was to get loan money. It's a manageable amount, thank god, but the people who "helped" me set up the loan urged me to take much more, "in case you need it." As it is, I'll be paying it well into retirement.

I'm trying to remember who wrote recently on the corrupt practices of Sallie Mae loan regulators (it was someone here at OS, and now it's bugging me that I can't recall.) What Sallie Mae does borders on the criminal.

Ann, as usual, you write with such clarity and humanity. I hope it is widely read and saves some of our kids from making a terrible mistake which throws them into indentured servitude for life.
Excellent piece. Too bad the Big Salon version was so truncated. It's the details that make what's becoming an all-too familiar story come alive and bite us.

Rated.
Great article. So unfair, the distribution of wealth in this country. If Romney gets elected, far worse will come!
This really resonates with me. After undergrad and grad loans are combined, I'll have about $45,000 to pay back on one income. One could say that I didn't have to do it but I didn't see a way around it. The only way to compete in this market is to gamble and increase education because the alternative is to gamble at the same job which is shaky.

What I don't appreciate about the loan process is the idea that Fafsa/gov't offered me an amount of $ to borrow, then when I accepted they denied the acceptance. In previous years when I accepted the amount the interest was about 11%. It's made nearly impossible to accept the money, and when you do you're forever paying it back.

There is also discrimination in how the government forgives loans, if you're speaking about teachers working in high risk areas. If you are a core subject, special ed. or P.E., you get $20,000 off your loans if you work in the same school for for years, but any other subject only gets $5,000. Riddle me that.
Congrats on making it to Big Salon! They really sliced and diced this, though. I put a comment there directing people here, because the commenters keep asking questions about your life that you answer in the second half of this (like why you don't work part-time, which you do).
Just look at your response here. Ann, I have no doubt that when the time is right for you... You could write yourself outta debt. You're a pro and you know it.
Snippydog hit on the Sallie Mae debacle. My daughter graduated with about $40,000 in loans, half of which (via Sallie Mae) turned out to be PRIVATE Sallie Mae loans with an interest rate of 11% & 12%!!!! I'm sick to death that I didn't make her read the fine print, I, too, thought Sallie Mae was Sallie Mae & a federal deal. Nope. Taking advantage of 20 year olds who have been told all their lives by educators, peers, society that they "have" to go to college. Another big part of the problem is the "for Profit Schools". She got her AA at a community college which I paid for but then went on to get her BA at a "for profit" college and in the middle of her stint told her she didn't qualify anymore for the previous loan she had , so she signed up for the one they put in front of her which turned out to be 12% interest loans. Congratulations on this piece Ann & thank you!
There are many of us in the same boat you are. Thanks for posting about your situation; it mirrors my own. While I don't want to default on my loans, I simply cannot pay them back. And if I couldn't pay them back in 2007, I can't do it in 2012, when my salary has increased by 3%- total- over those five years and the cost of living has increased by, what, 20%, _disregarding_ the price of gas?

I would be happy to wear a "scarlet $" on my clothing, have it attached to me virtually on my E-mail accounts and Facebook. Label me a person who can't pay his debt, but give me the opportunity to get out from underneath it. Please?
I am so sorry. I can empathize. I can't buy a house, have kids, or build a life for myself and my husband because of this. I feel stuck and lost. I try not to think about it too much. I work full time but it doesn't make a difference. It can easily make someone depressed. I was young. I was 18. I did not understand.
I agree with toritto. This is a brave and true piece of writing.
I stopped reading comments here: But we can't value both capitalism and human life. ... cheshyre grin because BULLSHIT.

I started college in 1967 at the university of Minnesota, a respectable state school. Tuition and fees per quarter: $134 = per year: $402. My annual income working after school, around classes, full time in summer, as a waitress at $1.02/hr = around 2k, not including meager tips. I lived at home, it was still largely a commuter school. (Now the campus is crammed with high cost, "luxury" student housing we couldn't have imagined back then.)

Which all means that I could have done my undergrad on what I made in a job that was, even then, low-paying. But I didn't have too. My parents had more kids than income so I got Pell grants and low-interest federal loans to the tune of over 1k/year. The loans were so reasonable I don't even remember paying them off and bought a new car at the same time. (VW camper, hub had a good income though mine was minimal.)

My ultimate point: the economy was still capitalist at the time and far stronger than it is now. Capitalism does not have to be a bar to human values. Not that I understand wtf I am doing defending capitalism.
The problem. The cost of education continues to rise coupled with the willingness to enter into debt beyond the ability to repay has caused billions in student loans that will enslave the population for decades to come.

35 years ago those that went to college did so if they could afford it. They either work through college part time or attended a school they could afford. (I did both) Parents that had the resources paid and those that didn't did not take on any debt. As a result college cost were steep in comparison, but not out of reach for those who were willing sacrifice.

Enter the low cost easy to obtain student loan. The result. Millions are shackled with debt for the rest of their lives. School cost spiral out of control because of the river of cheap money. And the level academic and student levels continue to drop because it is easy to go to college now. Of course the schools and banks keep raking it in knowing that they have millions of customers paying for the rest of their lives for the very day they graduate.
I should have added another point to my comment: the problem is not capitalism but banksterism, imo. The problem is that the system has opened to and and the subsidies directed to the most predatory and unregulated capitalists in the form of student loans having gone through the middle-men solely because government is bad.

You are not a deadbeat, you are prey.
There's a quick way to check if capitalism is compatible with life. The primary concern of capitalism is the accumulation of capital through the generating of profit - that is, to receive more than you give, to take what is not yours, what is not necessary for you, from other human beings. It might even be clear why the class divide has been and still is growing, because those who claim control over resources (generally through continued violence, physical and institutional) are the ones with the greatest ability to generate revenue for themselves, slowly depriving those without of the little they had to begin with.

What is central to life? Being. Living in connection to all other life as part of a single organism, the sum of all patterns of life and ecosystems and environmental conditions found here on Earth and beyond. The goal of the living is to live, to harmonize with their surroundings, to exist in balance with nature, whereas capitalism is, at its very essence, an unbalancing act. It is an act of taking. It is violence against fellow human beings. And even if capitalists value human life, they do not do so primarily, only secondarily, and if their profits are threatened, they will act on their primary directive, which is to protect their income, and they will ignore their secondary directives completely if necessary. And we can see this happening all around us, with people losing their jobs left and right and being thrown out of their homes and into the streets because someone wasn't taking enough from other people, and decided they needed to take what was theirs as well.

Capitalism is not compatible with life. It could not be any more clear.
You are such a good writer. I'm so glad to see all the very worthwhile comments, too. "you're only as sick as your secrets," as they say in 12 step programs applies to all of us in every situation. The game is rigged, that much is clear. As long as we individually don't talk and hold ourselves in shame, we don't find out how many others are wrestling with the same sick pig. Interest is not some modern, clever invention. Interest has been around since the bible - which outlawed it. What we have here is the legalized crime of indentured servitude of sorts. Let banks exist, but cap their profit margin no higher that a bookstores, and let the CEO's make no more than the 3rd grade school teacher. well, minds better geared can nail down the particulars, but when the playing field is slanted at a 65% angle it's best to not blame yourself for sliding down the side.
I hear the myth of people who have no financial or emotional or personal or sexual or physical problems, and have never bounced a check or had their heart broken or stolen or been stolen from. But I have never met such a person, and I've never met anyone who knows an actual person who fits that description really.
You are a real person with so much wisdom. Thank you. r
I have a lot of respect for your choice to do the honorable thing in looking after your parents. I suspect that you have a lot of company in that ever growing boat of people who are doing their best to manage their lives responsibly but are trapped by circumstances beyond their control. Thank you for taking the time and having the courage to write about it so well.
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I found your blog and wanted to let you know that was on Public radio yesterday with Cryn Johannsen discussing Student Loan Debt and thoughts of Suicide. You might find the show interesting. The link is here:

http://thestory.org/archive/the_story_072512_full_show.mp3/view