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I'm Terrie Torgersen Peterson. I hold a BA in Anthropology from the University of Wyoming. I've done archeological field work at Haluzta in Israel, San Juan River cliff dwellings in the American Southwest, and in the Big Horn Canyon in Wyoming. I'm currently a writer and stay-home mom to two gorgeous, laughing children. I enjoy exploring the intersection of science and culture and my own life as ethnography. I also write for Shethought.com. and DoesThisMakeSense.com. You can email me: anthropologistunderground [at] gmail [dot] com.

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JUNE 13, 2010 7:32PM

Incredulity of Privilege VI: I Am A Girl

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In thinking about how to frame a discussion about female genital mutilation (FGM), I wanted to acknowledge the controversy surrounding male circumcision but avoid implying that it is equivalent to the horrors of FGM.  Many online discussions about FGM get hijacked by discussions about male circumcision. I decided to open a discussion of male circumcision here and focus of FGM in the next post. Some links may be NSFW.

 

Wikipedia has a good general overview of male circumcision.  It used to be a common and routine procedure in the US.  The prevalence of circumcision in the US appears to have peaked around 84% in the 1980s.  In 2005 it was 56%.  I suspect that this rate will continue to decline.  


The issue of male infant circumcision is incredibly controversial.  Many people are strongly opposed to the practice and view it as a violation of human rights. Here are common arguments against circumcision from Mothering Magazine:


What I've learned during the past 31 years is that circumcision infiltrated western medicine during the mid-1800s, first in England and then in the other English-speaking countries, as a way to prevent or curb masturbation, which was thought to cause disease. Of course, that didn't work, nor have any of the other fear-based excuses that have been used since then to perpetuate this billion-dollar-a-year industry. 


Circumcision is a primal wound that interferes with the maternal/infant bond, disrupts breastfeeding, and undermines the infant's first developmental task of establishing trust. Then, too, there are these important considerations: 


The foreskin is a normal, protective, sexually functioning organ. 

Circumcision is an amputative surgery with inherent risks, including hemorrhage, infection, surgical mishap, and death. 

Circumcision is painful, even when analgesia is used. 

Circumcision leaves both physical and psychological scars. 

Circumcision denies a male's right to a fully functioning penis and leaves him with decreased sensitivity, pleasure, and sexual fulfillment. 

Circumcision denies a male's right to genital integrity and self-determination. 


Dr Amy Tuteur wrote about circumcision on Science Based Medicine and generated over 600 comments.  I haven't read them all, but the discussion I did read is fascinating. 

 

The Lay Scientist also has an interesting discussion about the perils of circumcision and Dr Tuteur's post specifically. 

 

According to Wikipedia, these are the current stances of various US health agencies:


The American Academy of Pediatrics (1999) stated: "Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision. In the case of circumcision, in which there are potential benefits and risks, yet the procedure is not essential to the child’s current well-being, parents should determine what is in the best interest of the child."[65] The AAP recommends that if parents choose to circumcise, analgesia should be used to reduce pain associated with circumcision. It states that circumcision should only be performed on newborns who are stable and healthy.[65]

The American Medical Association supports the AAP's 1999 circumcision policy statement with regard to non-therapeutic circumcision, which they define as the non-religious, non-ritualistic, not medically necessary, elective circumcision of male newborns. They state that "policy statements issued by professional societies representing Australian, Canadian, and American pediatricians do not recommend routine circumcision of male newborns."[12]

The American Academy of Family Physicians (2007) recognizes the controversy surrounding circumcision and recommends that physicians "discuss the potential harms and benefits of circumcision with all parents or legal guardians considering this procedure for their newborn son."[201]

The American Urological Association (2007) stated that neonatal circumcision has potential medical benefits and advantages as well as disadvantages and risks.[202]


I don't feel particularly strongly one way or the other about male circumcision, and perhaps this results from incredulity of privilege.  Our son's pediatrician recommended in favor because of the scientific consensus at the time purporting such health benefits as: reduced risk of HIV infection, reduced risk of urinary tract infection, and reduced risk of penile cancer. (As a slightly random aside, I wonder if HPV infection that leads to cervical cancer is also a factor in penile cancer.)  I also have a lot of empathy with the unnecessary medical procedure/mutilation argument. 

 

Our doctor provided credible peer-reviewed sources and studies supporting the practice, outlined the risks and gave us the space to make our own decision.  At the time we also read some credible anecdotal evidence that some intact men regret not being circumcised as infants.  Apparently, a subset of uncircumcised men are very prone to yeast infections and other irritating conditions even though they practice absolutely fastidious hygiene. One article I skimmed recently, but can't find the source at the moment, claimed that the foreskin is vulnerable to microfissures and other injuries during sexual intercourse, and these injuries provide a point of vulnerability to infection and disease. 

 

It seemed to us that the scientific consensus at the time favoring circumcision was valid and compelling. We gathered credible information and gave thoughtful consideration to both options. We asked for sedatives for ourselves, but our son was already asleep when the nurses took him to be circumcised, he slept through the procedure and remained asleep for some time after. We had no trouble bonding or nursing. Did we do the right thing?  I don't know.  As with all our parenting decisions, we try to find credible sources of information and we do the best we can.   

 

 



 

 

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I agree that there is no comparison between FGM and male circumcision. My husband and I decided to have it done on both of our sons. It was the late 80's and was routine. But I think I would choose it again. It is hard to teach kids how to wash their hands, yet alone retract a foreskin to clean themselves. Also, I felt the research regarding STDs and penile cancer made sense. Bottom line, it is a personal choice, but I am sure if a male at some point in his life needed to be circumcised, he would rather have had it done while an infant! R
People that say FGM is so much worse than MGM may just be opining based on anecdotal evidence. In many cases FGM is worse than MGM, particularly where a large part of the clitoris is cut. However, most FGM is clitoral hood and labia cutting. That is less nerve damage than done to boys in the US. And male circumcision is done and has been done for exactly the same reasons as female circumcision -- for primitive ideas of cleanliness and for reducing sexual PLEASURE. Male circumcision significantly reduces and affects male sexual pleasure. That is a fact. Another issue is that FGM has been shown to reduce HIV risk in Africa. This was treated as a big deal for MGM, why is no one pushing FGM for HIV risk reduction? BTW, similar Africa studies to the one that claims MGM provides a HIV risk reduction showed females are at higher risk for HIV with circumcised men. Also industrialized studies show there are no STD advantages from circumcision -- male or female).

Male circumcision is nerve damage -- a cutting off about 20000 fine touch and stretch sensing nerve endings and removing a source of pleasure from the male FOR LIFE. This is 2/3 of the total pleasure source amputated! This is nerves, blood vessels, protective covering and pleasure zones taken away from a human before the human can experience this. The dynamics and function and pleasure from sex and masturbation of the penis is harmed for good. If you are against one form of forced genital mutilation, how can you be for another form. Possibly it is a sexist attitude based on the wrong assumption that males do not deserve the natural sexual pleasure of their bodies.
Libmomrn: Thanks for the comment!
JackieNo: Thanks for commenting.

Just to clarify: I am not advocating in favor of male circumcision. My stance is fairly neutral like those of the US health organizations I quote above. In fact, some of the links I posted, particularly the Lay Scientist one, have very strong arguments against male circumcision.

I didn't keep the references our pediatrician gave us seven years ago, but my impression of the debate is that the purported health benefits are not controversial. A quick PubMed search of "benefits of male circumcision" seems to bear this out. What is controversial is whether or not the health benefits warrant the procedure.

Regarding the dynamics and function of circumcised penises, I'm not sure exactly what you are claiming. It sounds like you are claiming that circumcised men don't experience fulfilling and pleasurable sex lives? Or is it that intact men have more fulfilling and pleasurable sex? Or both? Or did I completely misunderstand this part?

When I looked at pictures of erect uncircumcised penises (for research purposes....) it appeared that the foreskin retracts anterior to the glans. I'm not sure how much of it is accessible for stimulation during intercourse. (Obviously some of it at least, if the article I read about its vulnerability to microfissures and other damage is valid. )

I was wondering if there are any studies of sexual function in men who were circumcised after becoming sexually active?

Thanks again for the discussion.
Sorry-- I was walking out the door when I posted my previous comment. I have a correction. I said: it appeared that the foreskin retracts anterior to the glans.

I should have said:

it appeared that the foreskin retracts behind the glans--thus exposing the glans and reducing the surface area of the foreskin.
Anthropologist Underground,

The purported health benefits are controversial. I believe they are contrived by those trying to keep the mutilation practice going. A Dutch doctor group (KNMG) is this month calling upon doctors to actively and insistently inform parents who are considering the procedure of the absence of medical benefits (and the danger of complications).

The partS that are called the foreskin have a very high concentration of nerve endings (about 20000) and these are all about pleasure -- they provide pleasure sensations based on fine touch and stretch. A part --the ridged band -- is touched and stretched (back and forth) during sex. These parts are also critical during masturbation. Sorry to be graphic, but I am not sure why you don't understand "how much of it is accessible for stimulation during intercourse" -- it all is.

Does sex without the natural parts (circumcised men) allow one to experience fulfilling and pleasurable sex lives? If they think so great (of course many women that have undergone female circumcision say the sex is great). Sex after genital modification is not the standard. I am certain it is bad to be lacking the stretch and fine touch pleasure. The anecdotal evidence is that circumcision presents significant sexual dysfunction issues. This is an area men are talking about more with the internet. The number of men in the US restoring their foreskin is huge. The evidence is strong that circumcision messes with the dynamics, pleasure and capacity to have sex.

What is certain is that the foreskin parts feel so good. Sex and masturbation are certainly better with those 20000 nerve endings.
Jackie NO: I had technical difficulties posting a response, so I started a new thread here