Ardee

Ardee
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Asheville, North Carolina,
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October 18
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Super Hero
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Artwork for banner adapted from "Mister X," by William P. Marks, Vortex Comics • Blog Title from "Serenity" by Joss Whedon _________________________ A fiber artist making wool felt garments and gallery owner. Previously, I have been all these things: • architecture office manager • department store clerk • restaurant: waitress, bartender & barback, cashier, busboy, dishwasher, prep cook, line cook, manager • architecture student • engineering draftsman • graphic designer • advertising art director • magazine publisher • fanzine: publisher, editor, writer, photographer, designer • garage band manager • web designer & programmer • database (FM pro) developer • software trainer • non-profit organization staff member • ad salesman • fiber artist: weaver, spinner, tapestry weaver, dyer, feltmaker • reader • writer • sailor • runner • drinker, toker • big sister • oldest child • wife (2x) • swinging divorcee

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JUNE 17, 2009 11:18AM

Buyer Beware: More lead from China, now at Lowe’s

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I went into Lowe’s 3 weeks ago for a roll of fencing to use as tomato cages and a trellis for beans and cukes. I needed a roll, since I have so many plants, and I was looking for coated wire so it would last a little longer than uncoated. 

My local Home Depot didn’t have any fencing, and the local hardware stores are so out-stocked by the big boxes that they are hardware boutiques, not full service stores. So, I was stuck with Lowe’s. 

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I found what I needed at a reasonable price and took the roll of fencing home and tossed it into my garden shed. The next day, I grabbed the roll, and started to unwrap the shrink-wrap, when I noticed on the bottom of the spool (showing since the roll fell over in the shed) that there was a warning sticker. The sticker reads: 

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WARNING: This product contains lead, a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Wash hands after handling. 

This was right next to the Made in China sticker. 

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Yikes! I was in danger just handling the stuff.  I had been that close to also cutting it and sticking it in the ground around my tomatoes! My organic tomatoes! Really, my heart was pounding and I had the sense that I had dodged a bullet. If the roll had not fallen over in the shed, I would never have thought to look at the bottom. I’d be sucking lead along with my salsa!

I thought, surely there is some warning on the main label, but no such warning exists anywhere on the main or top labels. I thought of the many purchasers of this product, taking it home in good faith and putting it where their kids play, where their pets roam, near their wells and in their gardens. Thanks Lowe’s for letting us know so clearly!

I took the roll back and explained to the Returns clerk exactly why I was returning it. She seemed to understand and I asked her to tell the manager that AT LEAST they should move the warning stickers up onto the main label so a customer could make their own decision whether it would be safe in their yard or now. She agreed. 

Not trusting to the chain of command in a store where employees are short-staffed and poorly paid, I returned in 2 weeks and sure enough, the fencing was still there, and the label was still hidden on the bottom. Not only that, but I started looking at all the Garden Plus products, which included coated wire fencing and several other uncoated products.

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Notice that you only have one choice for coated wire fencing.  

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Hardware Cloth, chicken wire and other rolled wire products made by Garden Plus 

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This label reads: WARNING: Proposition 65 - a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. *

I went to ask for the manager and got the assistant manager. I was extra polite, and explained that I wanted to show him a problem with a product in the garden section. He was relaxed and cooperative, up until we got to the fencing area and I showed him the labels. He got very tense and insisted that surely the company had done the research and that it was safe. I said, if it’s so safe, why is there a warning just to handle the product? I asked again to have the warning label moved up where it could be seen. He got very antsy and excused himself and I called after him that I’d be back in a week to check. He practically ran away at that point. 

My request is for any of you who shops at Lowe’s for their gardening products to check and see if the same products are there, and make the same request to the manager. Maybe they’ll see that we are serious about our health, even if they are not. 

UPDATE!- here is a photo of American-made fencing by Red Brand, made from 100% US steel, by Keystone Steel & Wire,  a company in Bartonville, IL, in business since 1889. There ARE alternatives to buying Chinese products.

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Just for your information, below are some EPA facts about lead and links to find out more.  

*Proposition 65, the Safe Drinking Water and Toxic Enforcement Act of 1986, was enacted as a ballot initiative in November 1986. The Proposition was intended by its authors to protect California citizens and the State's drinking water sources from chemicals known to cause cancer, birth defects or other reproductive harm, and to inform citizens about exposures to such chemicals. 

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Environmental Protection Agency - 

Facts about lead

FACT: Lead exposure can harm young children and babies even before they are born.

FACT: Even children who seem healthy can have high levels of lead in their bodies.

FACT: You can get lead in your body by breathing or swallowing lead dust, or by eating soil or paint chips containing lead.

In soil around a home.

Soil can pick up lead from exterior paint, or other sources such as past use of leaded gas in cars, and children playing in yards can ingest or inhale lead dust.

Household dust. Dust can pick up lead from deteriorating lead-based paint or from soil tracked into a home.

Childhood lead poisoning remains a major environmental health problem in the United States.

People can get lead in their body if they:

  • -Put their hands or other objects covered with lead dust in their mouths.
  • -Eat paint chips or soil that contains lead.
  • -Breathe in lead dust, especially during renovations that disturb painted surfaces.

Lead is more dangerous to children because:

  • -Babies and young children often put their hands and other objects in their mouths. These objects can have lead dust on them.
  • -Children's growing bodies absorb more lead.
  • -Children's brains and nervous systems are more sensitive to the damaging effects of lead.

If not detected early, children with high levels of lead in their bodies can suffer from:

  • -Damage to the brain and nervous system
  • -Behavior and learning problems, such as hyperactivity
  • -Slowed growth
  • -Hearing problems
  • -Headaches

Lead is also harmful to adults. Adults can suffer from:

  • -Reproductive problems (in both men and women)
  • -High blood pressure and hypertension
  • -Nerve disorders
  • -Memory and concentration problems
  • -Muscle and joint pain

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Links:

National Gardening Association 

Lead contamination in Urban Gardens (primarily about auto exhaust, but the same warnings apply)

Lead and Environmental Health / National Institute of Health/ Environmental Health and Toxicology

A compilation of links to web sites on lead that provide an overview of the problem, glossaries and dictionaries, data and research, and literatures sources. Spanish language materials are also available.

NIEHS Lead Resources /National Institute of Health/National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences

NIEHS consumer education about lead in the environment

Lead Poisoning: Fact Sheet Library/National Safety Council

National Safety Council fact sheet on prevalence of lead exposure, known health effects, testing for lead in the home and reducing lead exposure. 

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I'm convinced that China plans to deal with its pollution and hazardous waste problem by exporting it to the US in the form of "finished goods". I had to by some drywall and refused to purchase any from China. Rated.
Sheeps- I had heard that drywall from China falls apart in a year. So, not only toxic but inferior quality.
Thanks Ardee, I've been hyper-aware of this stuff since we've had our daughter and practically every toy on earth seemed to have been made in China. And in my work life I've had to do quite a bit of research on lead and lead poisoning and its effects on the neurological system. Scary stuff. Thanks again.
Huge problem "Lead"

Snip... Most ammunition used at ranges is made of lead....between 400 and600 tons of lead are used each day to make bullets and “a high proportion of it is left to clutter up shooting ranges.” It is no wonder,then, that numerous studies—since at least the 1970s—have
documented that outdoor shooting ranges are major sources of lead
pollution in the environment, and that indoor shooting ranges are
significant sources of lead poisoning among people who use them.

Also Fishing... Hundreds of thousands of ton's pollute waterways every year... When perfectly good ceramic weights are available..

Not sure of the alternative for bullets - but surely we can invent something less toxic...?
Caveat emptor..
This is what happens when a country stops manufacturing and only imports. monkey fingered.
Sact- having a child makes this exceedingly important! Glad you are on top of it.

Mal - funny, I never thought about fishing weights being lead. I have done a fair amount of fishing, (though no shooting) and I can only imagine how many chunks of lead are at the bottoms of our waterways. Thanks for the heads up!

BBE - there ARE American-made fencing rolls available at Lowe's, made of 100% steel. They didn't have any in small garden size, and none that were coated. I went to bamboo poles and cords instead of wire, so I didn't get the US-made fencing.
Let us not lay blame for this entirely at the door of the Chinese, or even Lowes. Idiots like me have been screaming for three decades now that exporting manufacturing jobs and opting for an economy based on being the Information supplier to the world was a recipe for disaster. Welcome to Disaster World where the middle class frittered away their freedom for a life of frivolous consumption.
I applaud your persistence, Ardee. This kind of stuff makes me furious. Only if people make a stink and refuse to buy this crap will manufacturers and retail outlets stop selling it. I feel especially sorry for those poor people, many of them children, making these products in factories that are really prisons.
When I had my construction business in Florida thirty years ago, Scotty's (a regional chain) delivered a fifty pound box of 16 penny nails to my jobsite. The first guy on my crew to start using the new nails was bending them over trying to nail them into white pine. Me "the boss" had to go over and show him this dumb kid how to drive a damned nail -- only I didn't, I couldn't, they might as well have been made out of rubber, and they probably were made out of old tin cans.

I looked on the box -- Made in Poland. Pissed, I headed off to Scotty's to complain and switch out for some good old American made nails. Only there were no American made nails, there were Polish nails and Romanian nails and Hungarian nails only. I bitched, and the salesman said they didn't carry American made nails because they were more expensive. To which I replied quite logically, nails that can't be driven into even a piece of white pine aren't inexpensive, they're VERY expensive, in fact they're so expensive they're priceless! Or more precisely, they're worthless!

Today I'm guessing those Polish nails have been replaced by Chinese nails that are perfect if you want to nail warm butter to jello.
Tom, I don't disagree with you at all, but it seems more important to warn people that a laissez faire attitude about the loss of our manufacturing base can also hit home in a particularly toxic way and especially for our children. If we all start refusing to buy Chinese goods, they will also become more expensive for the chain stores to carry. Demand US made goods and companies will re-form to provide them.

Emma- exactly. I am hoping that if Lowe's hears complaints, not just from Asheville, NC but from NYC, SF, LA and other stores, they will just pull the product. AND we all have to become label readers! I just posted an update to the story above with a picture of a US made wire fencing roll. I scoured the label and it had on it (though you can't see it in the photo) 100% US made steel.
Good for you for going back and calling attention to this problem. Loss of manufacturing jobs have just clobbered huge parts of the country and all we get in return are poisoned goods. Thanks for enlightening about the alternative product.
I was made aware of lead poisoning in a personal way when working two college summers in a glass factory. I was vacation fill-in guy in various unskilled jobs, including mixing silica sand etc to melt into glass. We poured red lead (lead oxide) from paper sacks into the mix. The full-time employee I worked beside turned out to have chronic lead poisoning.

However I wonder just how much lead is in that fencing and how much of that could leach out. California has warning labels everywhere for various pollutants, and I don't how how little or how much there has to be to mandate a label. In many cases I suspect ass-covering by corporate lawyers. "You got sick? But we warned you on the label!"

Lead fishing weights are now pretty much replaced by other metals, to protect birds such as swans that gobble them up. Same goes for birdshot in shotgun cartridges, though that process isn't yet complete last I heard.

Chinese drywall? Yipes, why ship something that cheap that far? I believe in California ours comes from Nevada.

The problem with hoping to see domestically manufactured products at the likes of Home Depot and Lowes is the good old market force of price competition. Most people just look for the lowest price, regardless of origin. (BTW, DO NOT buy the cheapest paint roller, else you will spend much time picking bits of fluff out of your paint - bad recent experience).
latethink- I used to pooh-pooh Made in America bumper stickers since I had an Italian car and loved it. I am here to say that that attitude is biting me in the ass right now. Yeah, Made in America is the way to go.

GB- Why would I want any amount of lead in my organic tomato garden? Why would anyone take the chance that it would build up in their children and cause disease 20 years later? As long as there is a demand for quality goods (which corporate America has forgotten while they kiss WalMart's ass) there will be companies to provide them.
the high cost of low prices!!!!!!!!!!!
"WARNING: This product contains lead, a chemical known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm. Wash hands after handling. "

I wonder if this means that it's safe in other states or that California has higher standards than other states?
It's my understanding that lead in trace amounts causes some sort of damage. That's the reason they quit using it as an additive in gasoline and paint in the first place. It's nearly impossible for the body to ride itself of the element. That's why we are warned about eating too much fish from certain areas.
I'm not fond of Lowe's and I was just in their yesterday, but I will go check on this. This wreaks of dishonesty to me. Great Post, Miss Ardee.
Michael I think you are confusing lead with mercury. It's the one that accumulates up the food chain and makes it unsafe to consume too much fish, especially tuna and swordfish. It is also not clear how low a dose of it might be harmful.

Ardee my point earlier is that you might not get any lead in your food from that fencing. Also it is likely if your garden is in an urban area that there's already lead in the soil from the days of leaded gasoline. I know the dust in the streets in those days was very contaminated with lead. It may also depend what kind of plants you grow and eat. Some take up toxins from the soil much more than others, and differently in different circumstances. There was a terrible phenomenon discovered over 20 years ago, where a dam project in India led to over-watering of some crops, which leached one trace mineral out of the soil, so the plants took up selenium instead, poisoning the people who ate the vegetables.
The questions I'm asking right now are: how long has this been going on? Are fencing rolls typically made without lead, or have they pretty much always been like this? How much lead is in the fencing?

It seems to me that metal containing a substantial amount of lead would not make a good fence, compared to steel, anyway.
Kathy, true enough!

Michael - let me know if your Lowe's carries the same brand; I'm curious.

GB, again, lead accumulates in our bodies, so why would anyone knowingly use a product that has enough lead in it to warrant caution when handling it, much less cutting it and using it around food. And 'likely' there's already lead in the soil, so why not use the fencing, hey, what's a little more lead in your body, eh? Then, there's the fact that the product requires a warning, but it's hidden where buyers don't readily see it so they can make their own decision? My request to Lowe's was not to take the product off the market, but to move the warning where it was obvious. To refuse that request is to admit that they don't want the warning to be seen.
I returned a whole set of Pfaltzgraff dishes after receiving a notice that "some" of the pieces (which, of course, were made in China), were found to contain lead in the paint. Who wants to eat off dishes with lead in the paint? I ended up with some dishes manufactured in the UK; there are also a couple U.S. companies that manufacture dishes, too.

As long as its financially beneficial for our manufacturers to have stuff made in China, it will continue.
Oh, yeah. Rated and Dugg.
Like you, we live in Asheville and we purchased that same roll at Lowes for a temporary, raised flooring for our chicken brooder (to hold the chicks just until it is warm enough to put them outside). We've purchased the 1/4" hardward cloth at Tractor Supply, Home Depot and Lowes. All three were made in China but only the Lowes product carries the warning. Is it possible that TSC and Home Depot are carrying a safer Chinese product? (I doubt it.)

We can't find a comparable 1/4" screen in plastic, rubber or vinyl-coated. Does anyone know of some sort of coating we could spray over the screen to lock-in the lead or zinc or whatever is toxic? (It is confusing that the warning label on the Lowes product does not identify the problem-causing chemical!)

Thank you
This might sounds crazy but>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>we really need to think about ALL of the chemicals in the products that are sent over from China that we buy everyday! has anyone besides me ever gotten a really bad headache when opening packages of PLASTIC items from China???
Could it be that they are doing chemical warfare on us Buy Crazy American right in our own homes through the products that we buy???
Do we REALLY know exactly how their products are made or what they are made up of? And we give these items to our children, put these items in our mouths, on our skin, everywhere! It's crazy!
This is their way of performaing chemical warfare on us by taking advantage of our lust for consumerism. If they render us infertile thru lead and other other toxic exposure then wouldn't it be very simple for them to march right on over and take over our country!? Sounds paranoid but oh well!!! We really need to think about these things ASAP!