I filled several OS posts with my sadness at the end of my marriage and my longing for someone to share my life with. I’ve joined online dating services with no luck in meeting anyone locally. I’ve railed against the tendency of men my age to date younger women and bemoaned the invisibility of older women in our youth-obsessed culture. I’ve envied every woman who’s visited the gallery with an attentive, intelligent man in tow. I’ve wished for someone to go with to a concert or a club so I can say I have a social life.
And guess what? I was wrong. I’m really not that interested in 90% of what I’ve been wishing for.
“Be careful what you wish for; it might come true” has now become fact for me. An un-attached, nice-looking man in my age group did find his way down my gallery stairs last week and - omigod - asked me out on the spot. I was so flabbergasted that I agreed, pretty much instantly. I had enough conversation with him to be sure he wasn’t a sociopath, and I chose to go to a music club as opposed to dinner, which seemed a little safer. But yes, I was thrilled, to say the least.
Oh, there were warning signs, like the fact that he boasted of being a “dyed in the wool conservative,” and that he talked nearly non-stop about himself. Well, I was willing to overlook some flaws, just to be able to say that SOMEONE asked me out. Desperate, yes, I would say so.
But he was very complimentary, which is something that every woman wants - please tell me I’m pretty!!! - at any age. When you’ve waited for compliments for over 5 years, that was a deciding factor. And he seemed interested in the gallery and what I do. OK, it was worth a shot.
So the first date happened, and it was fine. I told him ‘no politics’ so that we wouldn’t be at loggerheads right away. And he respected that request. Nothing untoward happened, he paid my entrance fee and bought me a beer and we had some pleasant, if impersonal, conversations. Very gentlemanly, as I would expect from someone my age. But as we talked, I realized more and more that we had nothing in common, and we had no future together. I think all women make that determination pretty quickly, since it’s the future that we think about. When I was younger, and still had hormones, I knew within a half hour if I wanted to sleep with a guy, and an hour if I wanted him as a boyfriend. But as an older woman, the competing imperative for me was, ‘male company at any cost.’
Or so I thought.
He is an engineer, here temporarily on a project, so he has a rotating schedule of long hours on the job and long hours off. I didn’t see him for a week, and started to have some doubts. But I kept reminding myself that we could just date while he is here, with no strings, pleasant company, that’s all. No need to vett him for boyfriend material, much less husband. And he is clearly interested in the same pleasant company role from me, someone to watch football with at the local sports bar (though I hate sports bars and football bores me), someone to go with to concerts and clubs, dinner, movies (more in line with my interests)… yes, there was a brief mention of going back to his rented house afterwards, but I ignored that since we had only spent a few hours with each other so far.
Hmmm. Yesterday, he called and I dropped in to the sports bar that he frequents here in town to see him. I knew he wanted me to stay for the evening, but I had a very real and urgent reason not to do so. I’m on deadline for an upcoming craft show, the biggest event in my busy season, and I’m madly making things to fill my booth. I can’t hang out with a guy, drink beer and watch football, even if I wanted to. So he tried to convince me. Copious compliments. Getting me into conversation to keep me there longer. Talking about how we could watch the game at his place so we didn’t have to stay at the bar. And then his ultimate strategy, his offer of backrubs and breakfast.
So there it is. Why do men think that pancakes with maple syrup and some inept shoulder kneading is an effective come-on for women? I was instantly creeped out, though I tried to hide it. I made a joke about it, and rolled my eyes at him, and then he told me I was “precious.” Gag. I made my escape quickly, trying not to show my revulsion.
Sex with a stranger, clumsily offered. The funny thing is, when I had hormones roaring through my veins, I would have done it without the pancakes. But it’s ‘been there, done that, so not interested’ for me now. I mulled over that revelation all last night and realized that there IS a reason that men my age date younger women, and it’s a damn good one. Sex for me now, sans estrogen, has to include trust, patience, delicacy and gentleness. Not with someone who is looking for arm candy and short-term wad-shooting. Not with someone who thinks of me as “precious” without having the slightest idea of who I am. Not on your damn life. Go find yourself a 30-year old and don’t waste my time.
So here’s the bottom line, I will be 60 next month. I don’t look it, but biology doesn’t lie. I’ve had all the risky sex I’ll ever want (and probably lots more than him) and don’t need to tolerate someone’s cheesy jokes and boring interests to fulfill a hormonal need. I don’t need to endure invalidating comments and empty compliments to make my life worthwhile. I may someday find a partner, someone who wants to share my life and honor me with his respect and intimacy.
It’s far more likely that I’ll run across men who haven’t gotten past frat-boy come-ons and an obsession with the conquest of the next pretty girl. I think I can wait. I think I can do without. I think I’m doing just fine on my own. I’m just not that desperate.


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I also noted that you applied the term “creep” to him merely because he “asked the question.” I wonder what you’d have called him had he not validated you by doing so. I also wonder if you haven’t reached that age where just getting the opportunity of saying ‘no’ is more important to you than anything else. I hope that you find your Mr. Perfect. I fear that when you do (if you do) he’ll not be interested for long.
I doubt that i would be........
(*70 and counting*)
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I actually have quite a bit to say about to say on this subject, but after writing and backspacing several times here, I think I'll go do my own post Ardee.
Skypi raises an interesting issue : when you stumble upon a person's post & make rash judgments before bothering to read any or all of their backstory ... o god I'm getting sleepy ...
Anyone who knows you even vaguely, Ardee, would jump at the opportunity to spend an evening with you, because anyone who knows you even vaguely knows your interests/politics/sense of humour/history/resilience & creativity.
Things which might normally matter.
( & by "evening" I don't mean "bed," either.)
It's great to read an articulate account of a casual encounter from a woman's point of view - makes me wish it was an Open Call.
I doubt many such men as that one read OS, but it's a fascinating & honest discussion to have : What Creeps You Out ?
Sixty is turning out to be a lot more productive ( and funnier ) than I ever thought it could be when I was 30 - & we just keep learning stuff !
( Did he have a boat ? )
He isn't/wasn't a creep to me. He is a normal man, with the normal amount of testosterone for his age (whatever that is.) I am the one who's changed from who I used to be - notice that I would have skipped the pancakes for the sex back when I had estrogen. I do have questions about how much of my life was driven by hormones back then, but that wouldn't be news to you guys. I am just noticing what I'm needing now that they are gone. I did really dislike being called precious. It's so cutsy-poo and I'm so not that. OK? happy now?
Harry's Ghost - thanks, you're right, I was open to just anything before and will henceforth stop the torture.
Sky - I'm not looking for perfect, but merely interested in my life as much as his own would be nice.
Thanks, Phyllis, the only woman to comment. And yes, he was only separated, not divorced, but when this started out, I was fine with that.
Trig, be kind. I love men, I really do, and there's nothing wrong with wad-shooting.
Kim, no he DIDN'T have a boat. Major point loss, there. Truth to tell, I have had no experience in dating. I let my hormones do the talking in the past. I have been clueless about what to do now, so this WAS revelatory for me. The one thing I have always thought about OS is that I could be totally myself here and if a man was attracted by my words, that maybe we could skip over the trial and error that dating usually is. Haven't met too many OSrs in person yet, and still waiting for you to drop in.
While I'm not single now, I so clearly remember some of what you write here: that revulsion factor popping up suddenly, deciding I'd rather sit home or go out alone rather than pretend *anything* another minute, especially an interest in football!...also the touch quotient. That point when we must be noticed, looked at, touched! ...or so it seems unless that revulsion moment arrives.
I say you must be in a good place because the better company seems to arrive when the bar has been raised...or you don't care whether they do or not!
Pffft on that then!! Even for pancakes!! :D
In our twenties, it's all about getting the guy, seducing the guy, impressing the guy, keeping the guy... Now, it's so much less about the guy, (any guy) and more about who we are becoming at this stage of our lives... ~r
Just Thinking, thanks! for getting this. I remember when I was in high school and went out with a college football player - he was so big! and when he hugged me, I felt crushed. There was an acid-buzzing in my throat that signaled animal fear, fight-or-flight, and I've felt it periodically over the years with different men. I never put this into words, but a lot of my reactions to men have been chemical, instinctual and very confusing.
Tink, surely pancakes work in some situations. Good luck with that!
Thanks, Joan, I'm glad Im not the only one feeling this.
Also want to say loved what Kim said and not so much sky :(
To your credit, those two building blocks of any good relationship are right on target.
You certainly have your act together.
Best of luck to you, and whatever it is you seek, I pray you find it.
"I don’t need to endure invalidating comments and empty compliments to make my life worthwhile. I may someday find a partner, someone who wants to share my life and honor me with his respect and intimacy."
And even if you don't, that is very okay. I might have been tempted at the offer of a backrub, but I'd rather pay for a professional massage. You did good.
♥R
Barry, yes, it's a snapshot of a reaction to an encounter. I hope sharing this in mixed company hasn't caused too much upset, but thanks for your trust and support.
Well, Hawley, I use this analogy - being horny these days is like getting a phone call with the ringer turned off. The message is being sent, but I don't always know about it til much later.
JD, not sure that my act is together yet. I'm still hopeful, and at least now I know what I need from a relationship. Thanks for your good wishes.
Rei, after 5 years of yearning, maybe I'm free now too. What was that proverb, something like giving something up in order to have it? Hope that works! Thanks.
Fusuna, I have a massage chair! :) Thanks for the good wishes!
Today I met a fellow who turned me on big time. He loves to dance but lives in an rv in the park. He was rich and now he is poor. He is 71 but had energy and vibrations that were palpable. Crazy does it good but the long term effects can be serious. What baggage we all have in a lifetime! So I am mulling him over in comparison to others I meet along the way. I'm not desperate but I want it. Whatever "it" is.
I'm an artist too and I admire your work habits. If I spent half as much time doing art as I do thinking about "it" I might be better off. Might.
Zanelle, I love your comment and I love your description of the guy you met. Hope it goes well for you, may he say and do the things that make you happy and warms that empty place next to you at night. I wish that for all of us!
Oryoki, I did a whole post way back when on that complicated subject and a comment wouldn't be long enough to do it justice. Suffice it to say, there are pros and cons for either path and HRT isn't for everyone. Thanks.
The fellow you described doesn't sound like a horrible person, really. But he sure does sound inept. And it's not too much, at any age, to want a prospective partner to be at least a little... ept. (It's a word if I say it is, damn it.)
Excessive, empty compliments? Immediate turnoff. Actually offering backrubs and breakfast as an imagined enticement? God help us. Those are nice things to do for a date, but pretty pathetic to offer in advance, in an attempt to sweeten the deal.
I say your instincts were right. Perhaps starting with the fact that he talked about himself too much and asked about you and your world too little. Why invest your intimate energy in someone to whom you're not really attracted, and who doesn't light your fire?
Candace- very interesting! 50 or 60-something men still hoping to "luck out"? I have many conflicting reactions but have to go back to 'been there, done that' and hope they find a younger woman to luck out with.
Well ... yeah. Shouldn't it always? At any age?
Anyway, RD, you made the right choice.
Tho I have to say in fairness that my late (and last) husband only liked Nascar races, which only happen Sunday mornings a small part of the year. It was entirely bearable and even rather endearing.
greenheron, Yes! I agree 100% on the politics issue and send me someone who (remembers!) and respects Abbie! Repubs set my teeth on edge.
Boanerges, Yes, you're right, but I used to also like those quickies, back in the day ( my version of short-term wad-shooting). But that was then. Thanks!
Myriad, there are so many advantages to no men in the house (so much less cleaning and cooking!), but some sizable disadvantages too, that friends can't quite fill. But, I now see that adaptability is a good thing.
Thanks, Owl. I had done so much whining on OS that I thought folks would be relieved when I realized that I was fine all along.
If my father was any indicator, I will be hale and hearty until 75 and then, in a Republican America, I might as well be dead.
Final truth: I can guarantee you this: Had he the moxie, you would have felt the warmth....he was a self-absorbed air head. Republican airhead. Need I say more.
I still think you have one of the best chinese restaurants in the south there. I hope they stay in business long enough to eat there because I think I will be coming back some day.
Alan
Alan, I am relieved to hear you echo my reaction. I am now content to wait for the right guy who shares the warmth, and not desperate enough to waste my time with the wrong guy. I hope you do make it back to the area soon (and thanks for the compliment!)
Wow, this sounds straight out of a “Sex and the City” episode. I would’ve felt the same way. I love the way you handled that situation and how you described every detail. I had such a fun time reading this and felt like I was watching it play out in front of me. You are so open about your true feelings without self deprication or sugar coating. Just honest.
“I think I’m doing just fine on my own.”
Hell yeah! Not many women can say that they are the owner/operator of her dream job. Enviable for certain.