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I was a writer and editor for more than forty years with four newspaper and magazine publishers. I am the author of two non-fiction books: "The Tycoons" and "Journalism and Other Atrocities," and one novel, "The Little Champ," all available on Amazon.com

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AUGUST 13, 2012 3:58PM

Who Hates Whom on Open Salon

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I just know that r.s. is going to castigate me (I hope I have chosen the correct word; wouldn’t want to give her any ideas) for putting Open Salon in the title of this piece, but I don’t know how else to describe the content. If I said “Who Hates Whom on Hollywood Squares,” it would misrepresent  the true message.

I have always been a methodical, details-oriented guy, and it has carried me far. Look at me now: writing to a usually hostile readership on Open Salon and receiving not a penny for my efforts.

But in the wake of the weekend dustup that centered on Candace’s blog attack on Matt Paust and FusunA, and Matt’s reply, I felt that my methodical self could make an important contribution to the OS archives.  Some time ago I thought it would be nice to compile a volume listing the names of all OS writers and commenters, with all information known about them, and publish it as “Who’s Who on Open Salon.”

After the weekend dustup – which eventually took on the proportions of a Sahara storm – I decided that what people here would really want is a compendium of hatred. There is a lot of hatred between people on this site, perhaps in most cases between people who have never met or even spoken with each other.

The article by femme forte aka Candace, entitled “Multiple Personalities on OS,” got all this started. (See http://open.salon.com/blog/femme_forte/2012/08/10/multiple_personalities_on_os_-_shadowland_for_fun_and_profit_1) In this piece, Candace presented evidence that she feels shows that Matt Paust and FusunA, two prominent OS contributors, have used phony alternate OS accounts to attack other writers they dislike, and to boost the number of ratings they receive on their own posts.

Matt then posted a response of sorts, entitled “Kiss my candy ass,” in which he insisted that he was being bullied by Candace and many of those who left comments on her post. (See http://open.salon.com/blog/matt_paust/2012/08/12/kiss_my_candy_ass)

Both those posts received thousands of views and oodles of comments. And by and large the writers of those comments were not shy. A huge number of them have decided that they hate Matt and Fusun. Others took the opportunity to express, or renew, their hatred of other commenters.

A true compendium of hatred on OS would require far more research than I am willing to do. It would require going back and looking at every piece ever written for OS, and every comment left on those pieces. There is a rich mine of hatred to be plumbed by such research, and I  hope that other researchers will add to the foundation I am establishing here.

Here, for now, is what I have determined about hatred between OSers, garnered strictly from Candace’s and Matt’s posts.

In some cases, commenters have expressed sorrow at what they feel they have learned from these posts, but have not declared outright hatred against Matt, Fusun or anyone else. I have not absorbed such comments into the hate list.

In other cases, I have found it difficult to understand exactly what it is that a commenter might really be saying. We all know that that is a common problem on OS.

It also is possible that comments that smack of hatred to me are not really intended as such. In those cases, I apologize to anyone whom I have misinterpreted, and hope you will correct me in the comments section below.

Without further ado, here is the list, with the name of the hater placed first, and the hated coming next. (It goes without saying that if someone hates someone else, the hatred carries over to any alternates  the hated ones might have on OS. But I am saying it anyway.)

IN THE ORIGINAL TEXT, THERE FOLLOWED HERE A COUPLE OF DOZEN LINES OF NAMES, NAMES, NAMES. HOWEVER, SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE DECIDED, IN THE COLD LIGHT OF DAY, THAT THEY WOULD RATHER NOT HAVE THEIR NAMES INCLUDED HERE THAT I HAVE DELETED THE ENTIRE SECTION. CONSIDER IT TO BE CLASSIFIED MATERIAL.

I would like to propose that these OSers be organized into two teams, with each member of each team handed a battle-axe. Let them have at the ones they hate until members of only one team are left standing. This would be an excellent way to get Open Salon into the news, which seldom happens, and it might stimulate interest among potential new OS members.

In case anyone is wondering whom I hate: I hate you all, except Tink.

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P.S.: I am getting feedback from people on the list who say their feelings in some cases do not amount to hatred. I also am keeping  an eye on the continually evolving situation in the comments sections of the two posts I cited. I am making changes to the text as warranted.

P.S. 2: I  have gutted -- oops, edited -- the material in this post to eliminate any suggestion that any specific person on Open Salon hates anyone else. If you like to sing while you read, may I recommend the Barney Song. I have left the rest of the text unaltered, however, because I think it was kind of funny, if I must say so myself. I have not entirely deleted the post, as one person suggested, for that reason, and also because it attracted some priceless comments that mustn't be denied to future generations.

 

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I feel so neglected!
speak up, scanner, who do you hate? we are letting it all hang out here.
If you truly are "letting it all hang out", Arthur, perhaps suggesting handing out battle-axes might be a bad suggestion.
Arthur, seriously, I hate no one. Not here or in real life. I learned long ago that hate is a wasted emotion. I get upset, sometimes to my regret, but it goes as fast as it comes. People who write these silly posts only want attention. I'm trying to write and stay out of the mud.
scanner,

As pleased as I am to hear that, I wonder if you sometimes feel out of place here.
Well, damn. Now I have to be bothered to correct the record.

Fusun: I have no personal feelings one way or the other about her. Never had an interest in her style of interaction. It was just the mathematical curiosity of the proportion of rates and comments that made me start pulling that thread that unraveled the whole garment. I do think she has some kind of mental problem, a megalomania, something like that, and that's a type of person I stay away from. But nothing personal there, certainly nothing on the order of hatred.

Matt: I loved Matt. He was a friend. Not only that, he was someone who seemed to intelligently support my writing, who posted real responses, not tossed off hugs or hearts. I ignored Fusun's accusations about him because they did not comport with what I thought I knew. I was floored when Candace presented her evidence, wanted him to redeem himself, was willing to hear his explanation. His response turned my feelings about him to disappointment, then, when he pictured himself as the victim of a lynch mob (maybe getting some bounce from libby's piece), to contempt. But nothing bad ever happened between Matt and me, and there's no hatred there.

Arthur: I carry a secret torch, but Margaret would scratch my eyes out so it shall forever remain secret. Seriously, you and I clashed when you made an exaggerated accusation against a friend of mine. You had earned my respect at the beginning of this brouhaha, but I urge you to examine your response to Eff Muppet and ask yourself if it was fair. You don't have to know the whole history, but you can read between the lines and see she was one of Matt's victims who was driven away by the nastiness. She did not deserve your Biblical censure.
since you insist on putting words like "hate" in MY mouth, and since we are compiling lists..perhaps you should share your personal list.

i despise behaviors that i find underhanded. i hate THAT.

i am capable of despising a behavior and not the person.

do not assume to know me or what is in my head or heart. thats rather presumptuous of you.
Sirenita, I didn't know that, of course. Thanks for the information.

Sirenita and lorianne, Tell me precisely what changes you want me to make above, and I shall comply.
Oh, and as for who nanatehay hates, the list is endless. Do you have a couple, three pages of pixels? For one, there's that sniveling worm, picardhater69, an actual, admitted Captain Kirk fan, with his juvenile snark about "Earl Grey-swilling, posh-accented, ambiguously sexually oriented, post-retirement ship's captains who will never be promoted to ministerial level because at least a captaincy gets them away from earth HQ for months at a time." Poor picardhater69 went down in flames. You won't find him around here anymore.

There are more. Let me check the archives...
my point is simply that i object to being called a "hater" for simply speaking out against behaviors i found despicable.
this is your blog...leave it as you see fit.
Jeez, Now I'm afraid to admit that I liked Kirk. Although I could do without his travel-agency commercials.
Rather presumptuous of you to determine and publish the feelings of others for general discussion. Hate is a strong and ugly word, and as far as I can tell, you are the first to use it with regard to these events. This is a very childish, knee jerk response, and it displays a complete lack of critical thinking skills. But I digress.

I do not hate any of these people, and how dare you publish accusations otherwise. I do disagree with the way they conduct themselves, particularly when it includes maligning and hurting others. I disagree with the way the manipulate people, and now apparently, the system. Can you wrap your head around the difference, Art?

Do not presume you can tell the world how I feel. And do not mistake my anger or frustration with hatred. If you are the thoughtful gentleman you like to portray, kindly remove your accusation regarding my feelings. Or, as so many like to say around here, prove it.
Eff,
I have done as you requested, and shall do so for anyone else who makes similar requests. But really, look at the language you used in addressing Matt Paust. Delicacy prevents my repeating it.
Hate is not a word to be bandied around.
Ok, Art, let me think seriously about who I hate on OS. Um. Well. Er. Gee, nobody. See, I would have to have something to hide to hate people on the internet. They have to get the better of me, reveal something I wanted hidden, humiliate me with the truth to inspire hatred. I suppose I could list some folks I "hate" in an internetty sort of way--assholes, annoyances, flamers, stalkers. But there's nothing visceral there. I had stalker on another site once. He gave up because his antics didn't elicit the response he wanted.

I have hated a couple of people in real life for actually doing me or loved ones harm. I hate the guy who raped a relative of mine, and if I ran across him, 40 years later, I would kill him without regret. But on the internet? What exactly can anyone do to me unless I'm trying to pretend I'm something I'm not?

Ah, but I do hate someone. K O belongs on the list, and anyone else who thinks it's cute to post people's RL names when they've chosen to use screen names. That qualifies as stalking, which is different from trolling or flaming. I've known people who have been located in their homes by online enemies. No one gets to decide if the entire internet is entitled to know my real name. The complications are endless. Fortunately, I have a very common, ambiguous name. Otherwise, it's a simple trick to learn where someone lives, who their relatives are, where they work. So keep K O on my list. Go ahead and leave Matt, since contempt is close enough. I don't hate him for deceiving me, tho, which is the issue some others are having trouble dealing with.
list iz a start
keep werking
soon U b on everyone's list
check is in mail
Sirenita, You are an education in yourself.

Gorlock, I was in Roswell recently and had a nice chat with your cousin.
I take your post as comedy, Art, but too many bruises, maybe? and I suwanee, the entire world energy is whirring with tension...
I adored Kirk back in the day, all dashing and egomaniacal with the 'tension music' in the background every move he made : ) I even *was* Capt. Kirk one Halloween (Capt. Kirk After the Klingons Gave Him a Sex Change, that is), but found a new level of refinement to love with Picard running the ship...
What?
I'm a Libra.
I can't help it.
Thanks, J.T. I just couldn't adjust to a new captain. Shatner was perfectly cast in the role, likewise Nimoy, and really all of them. With them gone, it wasn't magic anymore, just a commercial enterprise.
What Sirenita and others here have said about it being kinda silly to hate people on the Interwebz. It's hard enough for me to hate people in real life, let alone on a blogging site, and even if I could, it would be a waste of energy. What you are characterizing here as *hate* I would characterize more as a free and frank exchange of viewpoints, and in some cases just as a hobby, a regrettable but sometimes necessary part of what blogging is. That said, I would hate anyone in real life who harmed someone I loved, no question about that. Here in OS, however, I don't hate Matt or anyone else really, but regarding the kind of people Sirenita mentioned, those specimens like K O who post peoples' real names online without their permission, I can summon a pretty fair amount of anger. Such actions can have real life consequences for the person thus attacked, and there's never any justification for it, ever. Before Kate decided it was her job to perform such actions, there was another harridan, Bonnie R. I'll call her, who outed people on a daily basis, and as a result she's no longer with us here in OS. Tough s**t for her, I guess, but even for her I can't summon anything resembling hate (or for K O for that matter); pity mixed with contempt would be a more accurate phrase.

And oh yeah, regarding picardhater69; that bastard just got what was coming to him.
This is turning out to be one big happy family, and perhaps I should change "hate" to "love." I am complying with all requests for changes, but if it gets to the point where there are no names left, I am going to feel pretty silly, and may have to delete my post, which I don't recall ever doing before.
I have had no negative interactions with Matt, just observed the alters and stayed away. Perhaps you can include all the people Matt hated by using alters to strike at them ? Why shouldn't you ride on the wave of a flame war Art? You have been here a full year.
You have to admit, Shatner is seriously talented. Dedicated to nanatehay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0
rita,

OS fascinates me, I love to analyze it, and why not? This has been true every place where I have written. It is a natural consequence of being sentient. (not to be confused with senescent)

So please, don't let yourself be bothered all the time by this tendency of mine. It can't do you any significant harm, I don't earn a penny off it, it keeps me awake, so what's to dislike?
No worries, Art; there's no danger of this joint being one big happy family. There is plenty of genuine acrimony around, and enough seriously bad things (seriously bad for a blog site, I mean) have happened that, along with humans' natural tendencies to not get along with everyone, a chorus of "Kumbayah" isn't going to be breaking out any time soon. Also, if I was so inclined I could easily make a list of people on OS who genuinely thrive on hatred, but I'd rather discuss Star Trek. Captain Kirk did have one characteristic I always admired; he never failed to score with the hottest female guest character on that week's episode, and that's an important quality in a Starship commander.
Well, I did hear Paul Lynde hated Peter Marshall after he suggested Paul be moved from the center square. But I have to say it would be a mistake to say Paul hated peter!

Didn't know anyone still cared about Hollywood Squares - or did I read this wrong? Read all I wanted anyway.
Nana, I think I could have been satisfied with Ensign Rand. She seemed to be well-rounded.

cheshyre, good one.
"Delicacy prevents my repeating it."

Really, Art? Really? I was very restrained right up until the point where it became apparent that Matt was not going to own any of his bad actions, nor was he going to apologize, to anyone. And then I used the eff word and called him what he is well-known to be.

Let's just look at the name of his coming out post. It was a full attack on Candace, and anyone who tries to pretend otherwise is deluded. Are you defending him or denying the link between his alter based attack on Candace with the blog name "candy ass" and the post titled the same in response to her finally outing him?

I can stand in any school yard and hear the eff word tossed out continuously. It's actually one of my favourite words. And it is not a death threat. You really are a delicate flower. Thank you for respecting my wishes.
Ahhh, thanks!! I like you too!! I think Margaret F. borders on stalker with you but well, I think the marriage will change that! ;)
Art, you really have a problem with "fuck off"? Or were you conflating other comments with Eff's to reach the "murderous" conclusion?

FTR, the hottest star trek chick is this one:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0647010/

Especially as that green dancing girl...
P.S. Trig loves you a lot, you know the saying, YOU HURT THE ONES YOU LOVE!! :D
Green girl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSgG5M6ANn8
*read the comments*

Oh no, Open is a family, a great big dysfunctional family but still....

Who am I in the OS Family....CRAZY MOTHER WHO USES YOU ALL AS TAX WRITES OFF...:D'

On the whole Picard vs. Kirk --- jesus people, no contest, WORF WINS ALL!!
WORF!! WORF!! I AM A KLINGON!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cB5voc5-6Y
Well, Arthur, I'd like to make a simple correction:

I do not hate Matt and/or Fusun.

Hating them would require me to care about them - and I do not care about them. I don't even know either of them personally.

I despise what they stand for, and what they've done. And I honestly don't see how that equates to "hating them".
Probably the most beautiful woman to ever appear on Star Trek was Lee Ann Meriwether, who also may have been the most beautiful Miss America. Some of you may recall her as Catwoman. I probably would have jilted Ensign Rand for her.
Tink, Shouldn't somebody be holding your leash?
Actually they are(Sirenita Lake) but as you can imagine, it long leash!! ;)
Oh yeah, Art; Ensign Rand always made me feel all funny inside in that good kinda way. Forgive me but I was a mere child!

Sirenita, thanks for the links, especially the one to the green dancing girl. Oh my goodness! Here's one backatcha, I hope you have a strong stomach:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hARDXYz2io

Tink; Klingons don't count! Now quick, who's the hottest Star Trek chick: Ensign Rand, the green dancing girl, Lt. Uhura, or Deanna Troi?
eff got here ahead of me, but i would ask you to do the same: take my name off your list of haters.

i was really trying, art, to be civil and respectful in my discussions with you. this post is beneath you; it's juvenile and can only have the effect of inflaming an ugly situation further. it's just not cool to write about other people - whom you don't know - and presume to speak for them. i would ask that you seriously consider taking it down. thanks.
"I heard you all calling each other hateful names."

"Oh no, principle, sir, we were just playing."
i hate key lime jello and ignorant donuts — frosted.
Oh dear, I misspelled principal. Now everyone is going to hate me. Meh.
Candace,

Thanks for trying to be civil and respectful in our conversations. I believe that you succeeded. I hope it wasn't too great a strain.

Look up and zero in on the boldface material in the text. The people have spoken.
You have my permission to put me on the list as disliking you intensely.
Someday you will have to explain that to me, rita, but today we are celebrating the newly discovered fact that almost everyone on OS loves almost everyone else. Let's not spoil the occasion.
Nana, that's easy!! Troi!! Oh my!!!!

:)

Okay, not really easy, I'd do all three....but you know me, I really easy, do everyone on the Enterprise!! :D
Hate the sin, love the sinner? isn't that how it goes? In my case, I pretty much hate things people do, including what has happened here on OS, and end up disliking the person responsible for doing those things. Unless they apologize - I believe in the power of coming clean and apologizing. Then I probably would be pretty grumpy for several months but, if in words and actions, that person seemed to have changed, I would change my position. How did I become so wise? By having to do it in my life. It's pretty simple.
I feel neglected too. As someone who is hated WHY AM I NOT HERE as a VICTIM????? (I guess because I am not on the left. Only they get to be victims.)

What I find actually rather amusing is how the Leftists nearly ALWAYS have to use obscenities when they hate someone.

Have fun today Art. Get ready to be called names. Here it comes.
Well, B., I learned from one person today that when someone says to someone else Go fuck yourself, you worthless, low-life piece of shit, or words to that effect, it should not be interpreted as hateful.
Art, if Rita hates you, consider the source. This is a woman so clueless that when I wrote about Sakineh Ashtiani, who was facing stoning in Iran, she wrote, "If this is true it is an atrocity". I don't think she had ever heard of the woman and the proposed stoning and then she, Rita, complained that I didn't have a real photo - accused me of photoshopping- of a stoning. I had, by the way, put up a photo of a stoning being enacted. Gotta show the blood to convince Rita.
Arty - I CAN call you Arty, can't I? You MUST know that F**k Y** is now a term of endearment. "Let's F**k" (Shampoo, Carrie Fisher) replaced "My One and Only Love" as a pick-up line in the feminist 60s. Male chauvanist pigs being, and necessarily so (!) replaced by simple pigs. The really dumb women went along. Ah progress!
a minor correction, art. you say "both these posts received comments numbering in the triple digits."

because far too many people seem concerned about the numbers here, i think it's important to note that the current stats (8:10 p.m. PDT monday 8.13.12) are:

pausts's "Kiss My ..."

views: 2123
rates: 17
comments: 79

femme forte's
"Multiple Personalities ..."

views: 5532
rates: 68
comments: 321

from the OS cover page statistics.
That's blatantly untrue Bj. But I expect that of someone who turned to name calling once it was shown that the photo she put up was a photoshopped photo but it goes along with her over the top fabrication of everything she writes. You called me some pretty uncivil names, not very ladylike names. How often the righties forget their own transgressions.
of course her posts are deleted> how did we guess that one?
thank god she's in Russia.
Love the levity, as at times, I enter here with a heart a bit weighty... and to laugh about hate is a value that should be appreciable. We, for the most part, share love more than anything. This is not to say that there are insufferable ones who just need little sharp pin, allowing the ego to air and deflate of its own mass ....
Good post that sets the tone right. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, inthis. A sense of humor is always a welcome novelty.
hey art, you're like a cyber historian, or a anthropologist. [but never an apologist]...or a cyber lightning rod. there are just too few of those and its an exceedingly danegrous job. I cant believe you wimped out and deleted the names. its like jumping across a chasm-- you have to do it all the way, my man.
vzn, I had little choice. There were people insisting that they didn't hate certain other people, even though I said they did. How could I prove what a person truly felt about another person? Maybe they said "Fuck you, I hope you die" to someone, but it really wasn't hateful, only a petulant outburst, motivated by love. I had one person tell me essentially that.

The most solid evidence I got was when rita shibr told me that she "intensely disliked" me, but she didn't own up to hatred. I certainly don't think she loves me, because she didn't tell me "Fuck you."
Oh Arthur, you didn't mean that last line did you...about hating everyone but Tink.
I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight, for fretting about this troubling revelation. Was Tink in Sioux Falls too, Arthur. Was he? I have to know these tihngs! Your secrets are going to kill our new and fragile love!

And as long as you're willing to change things -

"...in the wake of the weekend dustup that centered around Candace’s blog..."

make it centered ON, not around, darling. How do you "center around" something? Maybe it can be done only after falling between the cracks.
(Comment here by aim deleted because he/she/it used extremely foul language to characterize another OSer.)
being deleted on this blog feels like an honor.
There is no honor in the comment that aim left. The vilest language, directed at a female OSer. Everybody else who has commented on this blog would have been outraged. Certainly not what one would expect from the author of the post entitled "Unforgiven."
Serita the saint who doesn't hate (what a crock of shit)

Trig outed himself

http://open.salon.com/blog/trig_palin/2011/02/25/turns_out_we_are_related_by_marriage_to_bonnie

So cry me a river about how much you hate me. You don't know me, you don't know shit. If I had a nickle for every arm chair lawyer on this site... either get your license in Kansas or shut the fuck up.
If real this is an atrocity, however, it appears to be photoshopped in some way.

rita shibr

For the record, I printed a poem about this "situation", you responded as above you are quoted, I then replaced the photo which was NOT real with a REAL photo of the woman sentenced to be stoned. I was referencing the situation, her sentencing to being stoned, NOT the photo. I even sent you a PM and said that the photo had been replaced to show a photo of the lady. My sentiments are about the INCIDENT - her sentencing. Whether one has a photo that is a depiction, as my original one was, OR NOT, the sentiment about the sentencing is the same and you didn't seem to get that. The INCIDENT is real.
Rita, I called you out on another post not the one with the poem about the stoning.

I called you out, I think it was, for being illiberal and it was on the post I wrote along the lines of "You Stay Out of My Bedroom and I'll Stay Out of Yours".

I deleted old posts when I left OS. I've since put up new posts. Although they are meant to be funny, feel free to go and call me names there. And, by the way, I'm not a Right-Winger. But you know best I guess.
what is wrong with a polite questioning of a very amateur photoshopped photo of a buried woman being stoned? I said if the picture was real it was an atrocity not if the incident was year. By quoting me back your prove that. I don't want to call you names BJ you used foul language and called me names, why are you bringing this up? Why now after you deleted the posts? I could care less what you call me. If you put up a phony picture I will question it, the picture was phony BJ just as you are not from Russia. Everything about you is phony. Please stay in your corner and I will stay in mine, I appreciate you not bringing up my name again and I won't mention your phony name either. Ok?
How could I have been so foolish as to suggest that there was hatred here on OS?
you have baited and baited Arthur, good for you.
please remove my name from the first sentence of your piece, I thought it was funny but it is bringing out rats from the woodwork.
Please leave my name out of your blog from now on. I really don't know why you care so much about what I think about you. As long as people are not attacking me I will not be back, please don't come over to mine either.
Rita - I did not call you a foul name.
I told you the ARTICLE was about a real subject. And I believed you were questioning that. I have said the photo was a DEPICTION.
BTW, I am in Russia. I never CLAIMED to be Russian. For those who have asked, I have said I live and work here. I will not, however, be sending you a passport scan.

Rita I brought UP your name because of what you said about Arthur here. AND, as I have made clear, I thought you were questioning the INCIDENT.
I don't use foul language here. I probably implied you were stupid though. But never using the Left tactic of obscenities. Bye.
Rita will not be back ???? YES!

Nice picture Arthur.
Rita - I just checked. I called your views on controlling people's smoking, weight, physical choices, and such "incipient fascist-light" and I think they are. By the way, this may be harsh, but most people, I suspect, would not think it foul. Foul, at least for most people, means obscene. As said, I've not used an obscenity with you.

Also, you never really finished on that post - just cut and ran. All of the points I brought up you failed to debate. Rather typical of a good deal of the Left.
K O, why the fuck should I get a license in Kansas when I live in California. And it "Sirenita." And folks who know me, which you don't, know I have a J.D. I never sought a license because of health issues, but my 3 years on law school trumps your random website explaining what stalking is.
And now let's pause to reflect on how important love is among all of us here on Open Salon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4p8qxGbpOk
Please remove my name from your post, Arthur.
BJ you attacked again: in your post you called me a stupid bitch.
Yes. Yes you did.
I have never used that term on OS but you have. Calm down. Go back to Russia and have a smoke and a Vodka. Arthur here would have deleted you for language.
Rita - I have never called anyone here a stupid "B**ch". Good God, I honestly think you have me confused with someone else. I am serious about that. I have, never, ever, ever used such language on a site ANYWHERE. I called your thinking Fascist Light. I do not use the word "b**ch" in public (or actually even in private). Please recheck that. You are in error.
Rita - are you joking? I actually take it seriously. I thnk calling women "stupid B**ches" is awful. I have never done this. Please explain that you are joking. I do not use obscenities on my blog and have never written about you. I have responded IN COMMENTS to you and never used obscenities or called you that name.

Good God.

And why you assume I smoke and drink Vodka is odd. If this is a stereotyping deal, fine. Ha, ha.
Rita, regarding your name: See my response in your message box.
Next time, just do a post about star trek, ok? I bet that gets folks riled up enough. Might even bring back picardhater69.