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MARCH 29, 2010 1:04AM

The Sea Org: Scientology's American Al Qaeda

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Scientology may be, once again, at risk of losing its status as a religion. It's elite "Sea Organization" is being sued in a labor dispute. Former members, Marc and Claire Headley were once working in the Sea Org. They made $29,000 over five years, worked more than 100 hours per week for three years, making products for instruction of Church members - like tapes that were sold for a whopping $75 each. Additionally, they had to flee the Sea Org campus in San Jacinto separately.

Claire fled a "minder" that was assigned to go with her to an off-campus doctor appointment. Marc escaped on a motorbike, with $200 and two day's worth of clothing. He crashed the bike while evading Sea Org security and was found by a passer by. He and his wife were eventually reunited when Claire emailed Marc on an old email address that the Church was unaware of.

Stories of the Sea Org make it appear to be a para-military organization. Their facility in San Jacinto, California holds more than 500 members. All of whom have signed a "billion year contract", effectively meaning that the individual is a permanent, indentured, volunteer of the Sea Org for all their many reincarnated life times. Rich white guys in the south in the 1700s might have called this "indentured servitude". The rest of us called it slavery. Fuck that.

When a religion attempts to make a profit (and it's undeniable that that's what the CoS does that's why all it's highest ranking members are rich celebrities), particularly from its members, it no longer is a non-profit religious organization. It is a business - officially and not just because atheists like me who are suspicious of all religion have suggested that it is such.

If Marc and Claire win this case, Scientology's status as a religion in the US will be at risk.

Many well-meaning, brave, and dedicated lawyers that deserve to live in a land where chocolate won't make them fat and Olympic sports medicine specialists are constantly giving them massages around the world have spent this past year trying the Church of Scientology for varying misdeeds. In particular, these misdeeds have allowed the brave hero-lawyers and their clients to call into question the Church of Scientology's standing as a religion.

In 2009, the nation of France filed a lawsuit against Scientology for organized fraud. If France won, the Church would have been dissolved in that country. Alas, France didn't win the lawsuit and dissolution, but four leaders of the Church were convicted of fraud. Prior to the final verdict being read in the case, a law was conveniently passed that prevented the dissolution of religious organizations. This of course leads me to suspect that a CoS member (or members) is fucking about in the French legal system, passing laws to the benefit of his lord and master, L. Ron.

Many countries have revoked Scientology's status as a "religion". Of course that would prevent them from having many rights, such as allowing them to have private citizens function as volunteers. The United States is a very religion friendly country, partially due to the nature of its founding. However, Scientology has been able to manipulate this to its advantage in the US. It has it's biggest financial foothold in its US operations, this is because we have all of its rich celebretard members. It stands to lose a lot in the US. Scientology is actually economically beneficial to the United States, particularly California. I would suspect that if this lawsuit continues through the legal maze in the state, we may find it thwarted by some bullshit law mystically appearing out of no where but being dandily advantageous to the CoS in forcing the case to either be dropped or the dissolution of the Church to be made futile.

While Scientology is scary, and clearly I'm not the only one that thinks so, its Sea Org is far more frightening. It is the cult of cults. It is the pinnacle of weird brainwashery in Scientology. As the AP article describes, the Sea Org was started in 1967 by L. Ron Hubbard to acquire poorly captained ships and take his most dedicated followers around the world to spread the teachings of CoS. They wear maritime uniforms, carry swords, and are rumored to have an arsenal of weaponry which include tanks. This is some serious shit. This is government sanctioned, batshit crazy terrorist style worship, complete with firepower and rigid militaristic leadership. 

Here is more information about the Sea Org.
Wikipedia
Xenu.net

For those that are not wealthy enough to obtain Scientology-required training, auditing, and religious education, they can become members of the Sea Org. They will essentially sell their existence for the training they have been told they must have if they ever want to become "clears" - the highest level of Scientology (Tom Cruise and John Travolta are clears). They can join at any time, stories of Sea Org members as young as three years-old have been revealed. However, the Sea Org does not permit it's members to have children, hence Claire Headley's coerced abortion.

I don't find too many differences between Scientology's Sea Org and radical Islam's Al Qaeda. They both offer education, housing, and religious sanctity for those who are desperate, young, and emotionally distraught. Neither care for the lives of their members, rather, they are interested in perpetuating the social power and fear-mongering skills of their leaders. They desire to spread the word of their cause no matter the cost and use the leniency of their governments to do so. Both the Sea Org and Al Qaeda act as paramilitary organizations.

While Scientology and radical Islam don't stand to take over the world, the stronghold they both have in their native lands is terrifying. But like all religions, the mindless dedication of their followers, who dare not bite the hand that feeds them, is their most powerful weapon.

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religion or not, that's just scary.
They freak me out and do not deserve tax exempt status, they are a cult and remind me of the People's Temple.

There is something funky when two people who have reached the highest level are also well known closet homosexuals, what's up with that?
It will be interesting to see what comes of the parliamentary inquiry here in Australia, too.

Another parallel with Al Qaeda is the subjugation of women.

Not sure how it ties into their belief system, but it's expressed here on OS in scary numbers, and women appear to be loving it.

I see it a boy's own fantasy type of movement, out of control now, and wrecking lives left right and centre. Thanks for this.
@Ablonde:
There is something interesting going on sexually with the CoS, too, but I can't put my finger on it. Is it that homosexuality is unacceptable in the Church, or is it? Is it a Sparta type deal where you can be homosexual privately but not publicly? I have no idea.

To the point of Kim Gamble, below you, the subjugation of women is a problem in the CoS. There's this "silent birth" shit that just seems like some Nazi idea of torture. I do wish I knew more about that. Some day, someone will come out about that as well.
@Kim Gamble:
You're right about the subjugation of women. Most obvious is the desire to control women's bodies (i.e. reproduction). There's a reason Katie Holmes looks and behaves like a slave. Slavery is a common theme in the CoS.

I did read that the CoS was recently implicated in a death in Brisbane. I assume nobody' in Australia is really digging them right now. I believe England does not regard the CoS as a religion, though I know it has tax exempt status in Australia. I hope somebody gets it for that one.
Scientology is very weird. ANd how great can it be? Travolta's kid is dead, Tom Cruise is still short, Kirstie Alley is fatter than ever, and the Presley kid can't sing worth a damn. So, what's the big advantage?
@Ablonde:
I lol'd.

They may be fat, short, and have a dead child but the advantage is money. It's, very quietly, the Hollywood good-old-boys club.
Charging people to learn your religion is what makes them a cult, not a creepy little "National Guard." The Sea Org is disturbing, but we're a country with a rich history of militias, and I wish I was more surprised. Here's to making this an EP.
@Eric Lightborn:
I would love to know how aliens can heal addiction problems. Would LOVE to know.
@BikeLizard:
Agreed, we are a country with a history of militias. However, have they ever been this rich? I think not.
Anyone looking for more info about Scientology should check out:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Fishman/index.html
Thoth ?

Man Talk Now ?

You got anything to say about this ?

No, didn't think so . Never mind. Isn't it.
@kim gamble: Well, since you asked, here's my opinion. I think it's a dangerous cult. Xenu.net is a good source. One of the most mind-blowing things they did was take over the Cult Awareness Network. Remarkable.

And have you seen the Cruise video on YouTube? Yeesh.
Thanks MTN - redeemed. Still find your attitude to women weird though. That's just me - I'm a man, what can I say ?
Scientology has many business tentacles that operate as fronts for the cult. For example, I recently learned from my vet that the Co$ sells business management products to veterinarians since many start practices knowing next to nothing about how to run a business. Many vets subsequently become Scientologists. The business model is as strict and methodical as anything the Nazis came up with for their "Master Plan" and involves a lot of accounting and employee abuse.

I learned this after mentioning to my vet that my niece was asked to take a test at a vet's office where she wanted to do her practicum. It was a Scientology test. The final questions was whether she would consider joining the cult, er, church. When she questioned this, she was told that she didn't have to take the test. She took it anyway, they offered her the practicum, and she turned them down.
they scare the hell out of me.

@emma: i had no idea they sold business planning stuff to veterinarians, for pete's sake. makes you wonder how many other pies they have their greedy mitts into...(r)
My sister was a member of Sea Org for many years and is still a 'practicing' Scientologist.

The whole thing is bizarre-o-land. And honestly, I am scared to say much more about it.

Thanks for this piece.
I hope Scientology goes down in flames. Rated.
And a lot of those profits from slave labor are channeled into Hollywood real estate. All you have to do is drive down the 101. And where does the $$ go from there? Who knows?
@Bonnie Russell:
I can't wait for GOD HATES FAGS to do something to lose tax exempt status. Hatemongering should be enough, but then there's that whole free speechy thingy. I'll be waiting for them to slip up...
@emma peel:
Thanks for the info. What I know about CoS is relatively minimal, but what I do know is freaky deaky. Every new thing I discover it just gets more and more bizarre. The veterinarian thing is incredibly odd but, like all of these things, I've come to expect the strange.

Good for your niece for getting out of there. Hopefully she found a non CoS practicum. Did your niece ever figure our what her "results" were?
Gotta love old L. Ron's little scam/joke....yeesh. You should google L. Ron Hubbard, Jack Parsons and Aleister Crowley for more bizarro wackoness...
@wakingupslowly:
Thank you for your comment. I understand your hesitation to discuss. I'm glad your sister at least got out of her "billion year contract". Hopefully she finds her way out entirely before too long.

My fiance wonders how I've managed to continue posting about these assholes for as long as I have without receiving some form of contact or threat by them. I assume it's the fact that I'm posting in a community that is nearly 100% anti-Scientology.
@Eric Lightborn:
Scientology isn't that much different from Catholicism, or radical Islam, or probably a number of other organized religions. Miraculously, almost everyone is able to get behind the dingbattery of CoS. I guess for that, I am glad.

AA, Al Anon, Narcotics Anonymous, all of it is brainwashing. I get that some people need to feel that something other than their own brain controls their lives. Aliens aren't terribly different from god in my book.
@old new lefty:
The economy of LA is made up of some pretty fucked up stuff. I agree with you, the profits from Scientology are feeding all of us in a way, but to what extent is the question.
I think all religious organizations should pay taxes. If we are letting Ted Haggards, Catholic Bishops who hide child molesters, and even basically decent guys like Rick Warren get a lot of money tax free perhaps we should reconsider. The US needs the revenue at the moment.

CoS is frightening and it is dangerous. The sooner someone scrapes up the not-so-"goods" on these people the better. David Musk-Cabbage (SoC head) deserves a stint in prison for his crimes. The kids who grow up in the organization often end up really screwed up. Slavery is illegal- unfortunately it is still alive and well in CoS. They have their hands in so many of the government offices in Clearwater FL that no one can get a fair hearing if they go against them in court. CoS calls the cops on people at the drop of a hat- this is their mode of operation- and goads people into angry confrontation- called bear baiting. This stuff is just evil evil!
Wow, great article on something that people need to be aware of. Scientology and its followers wield a ton of money and power. This Seaorg thing is beyond scary. What a brave couple..I'm surprise they're still alive. Rated.
Looking at our comments, they've sure got a handle on fear.

No thoth yet ?

There goes my MTN/thoth theory.

Ah well, isn't it.
While there's no denying the story as reported is disturbing. However, the most disturbing thing about it is the headline, which is a declaration about how casually the author feels about hyperbole. I belong to a family of Scientologists, two of whom are actors famous enough to be used in a series of Scientology PSAs. I am a secularist, raised Episcopalian and I am not a Scientologist, not now, not ever.

Without attempting to excuse any criminal behavior or harassment that the Church may have been involved in at a high level, I don't hear the same level of hysteria leveled at a religion like, say, the Mormons. (Or at least not in the last few decades or more.) At one time, Mormons were despised, they were violent, martial, even involved in a horrendous mass murder at the famous Mountain Meadows Massacre, which they Church admits and which no less a person than Brigham Young had knowledge of if not indirectly ordered. Mormons continue to excommunicate and shun former members, harass any former Mormon who criticizes the LDS, and demand as a matter of faith large amounts of money from their faithful through mandatory tithes.

My point is not that we should fear Mormons, quite the contrary, but that all of these same charges are leveled at Scientologists with less cause (much is made of an alleged murder in Clearwater, but there is no evidence that they intentionally murdered almost 150 innocents, which is a matter of historical fact with the LDS). Many people on the Right would and will vote for a Mormon in the person of Mitt Romney. Those on the Left are attempting to salvage the political career of Mormon convert, Harry Reid. It is unlikely that anyone would vote for a Scientologist anytime soon.

I have only my own testimony to add to the largely acrid pool of opinion about the Scientologists, but I have found "my" Scientologists to be warm, loving, devout people who have never once attempted to lay any trip on my, but when we discuss religion, engage in those discussion in a perfectly reasonable way...much like the Mormons that I know and love.