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JANUARY 10, 2009 7:02PM

I don't want an honest relationship with my children

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There are only three rules for my four children: always tell the truth; think about others; and, be brave.  Over the years I’ve found these three rules will cover just about anything that comes up. 

I’m pretty sure I’m about to throw the first one out the window.  You see, my children are pathologically honest with me, and as three of them are either through or in the throes of puberty, I’m almost positive I don’t want to talk to them or answer their questions anymore if they’re going to insist on being this honest.

We had all the checklist good parent/child conversations when they were age-appropriate.  STD’s. condoms.  Emotional attachments.  Respecting yourself and your partners.  I was the queen of responsible honest communications.  But then they wanted to respond in kind.

It started with my oldest, my son, Tyler.  He’s always been a little bit disappointed when he can’t shock me.  I love my oversized, gangling boy, I really do.  I was fine with his being bi.  I was fine with his romancing both genders at once as long as everyone knew.  But then the (non-theoretical) sex questions started.  Yes, gently cupping balls during fellatio is always a good move; don’t know what to do with the female sex during the same sort of foreplay? I broke down and explained the alphabet and ice cream cone tricks.  When he complained about how uncomfortable condoms were, I made an educated guess and made sure that he knew there were different sizes; he’s been an enthusiastic magnum customer ever since.

 

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA! 

(this is what I sing when I put my fingers in my ears).

 

The oldest darling daughter doesn’t ask for technical assistance – she just wants long, involved, no holds barred conversations on why dating the older man with a child (legally separated from his wife) might not work out.   And why she was attracted to the transgendered girl who was presenting and fully dressing as a boy at college (the logistics on that were amazing).  And why giving endless hand/other jobs as a way to avoid having to go on daily birth control isn’t really that good an idea.

 

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA! 

(this is what I sing when I put my fingers in my ears).

 

I know I should be touched, right?  I know that we all think that we want our children to come to us with anything that they may be curious about or troubled by; but really, I have to tell you – not so much.

But ok, oldest two are out and living fairly productively on their own; four year old wonder boy has declared that he will marry me when he has a job and a house; and ten year old Lucie, the Charming Demon Child is living with her father this year attending the strictest of British schools and is nannied up to the ears – looks like I might just have a bit of quiet space in which I could breathe.

 

(emergency call from LTCDC last Thursday)

 

Mommy!  I have to ask you something but Daddy is right here!  I have to talk to you (in a loud whisper) it’s about S.E.X. (spelling it out, so her father with two graduate degrees can’t possibly understand).

Ok, Lucie, go in the bathroom and run the water and talk to me.

(sound of running water and a bathroom fan)

Moooommy!  (loud whisper) S.E. X. (apparently confident that I can spell).  You can’t tell daddy, he’ll lock me in a room forever!!!!

(I’m starting to get worried at this point).  Ok, Lucie, what about (loud whisper) S.E.X.?

I’ve been having these dreams!  These crazy (well, you get the idea) S.E.X. dreams!

Who’s in the dreams?

Well, I am.   I am in these dreams!

Ok, anyone else?

A wild teenage NAKED boy!

Is it anyone you know?

No, I don’t know him, but he looks like Charlie!

(I should probably explain here, that since she could barely walk, Lucie has adored ‘charlie and the chocolate factory’.  Charlie was the name of her favourite teddy, imaginary friend, pretend boyfriend, so, fair enough that its Charlie as the ‘wild teenage NAKED boy’.  I’ve explained to her that he is now a veterinarian and is older than I am, but she is still sure that he is about ten, beautifully blonde, owns a chocolate factory and that they are soul mates.)

Are you being hurt in these dreams?

No, but I am having them!   I am having the crazy S.E.X. dreams every night!!  What is wrong with me?!!

Nothing’s wrong sweetie, it’s just hormones.  We’ve talked about hormones.

Hormones give me crazy S.E.X. dreams?

Let me tell you a secret, sweetie, one of the weirder things about being pregnant is that you often have the crazy S.E.X. dreams every night.  Things happen in those dreams that I can’t tell you about until you are approximately thirty-two.  Those are the really crazy S.E.X. dreams, so don’t worry, it’s perfectly normal.

Well, you can’t tell daddy, I don’t think he knows about the hormones.

Daddy knows all about hormones, Lucie, he just doesn’t want to believe you have any.

Thank you, mommy, goodnight!

 

 

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA, LA! 

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lalalalala..this is how i bump!
This is great. Do they have a nice uncle you can punt these questions over to?
Hysterical and wonderful. You may not need the details, but I love that they want to give them to you :D.
Thank you Mrs. Michaels - no, this is pretty much on my own sagging shoulders :)
shelle! thank you! h.
baHMM-LUV it! You may not wanna know, but you taught them well. Good on you!
That got me laughing! You are ahead of me and I thought I was honest with my boys! It is too much information--but thank God they can talk to you about it all. Alphabet and ice cream cone tricks? No one taught me that!
Anne - thank you! (but i still don't want to know).
WAP - i totally agree about the TMI. may have to change what i sing when i put my fingers in my ears! :)
Sounds like you have a great relationship with your kids. It may be uncomfortable, but it is such the right thing to do.

Now have you seen my recent post about STIs? Might give you even more things to talk about with them. :-)

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thanks, teendoc, i forwarded it to the oldest two already! really good information, really well presented.
This is the most entertaining thing I've read on here a while. And so cute.

You're definitely a good parent.

Rated.
I love this! I have the exact same situation with my sons. I was actually thinking of doing a post on two recent conversations: my 12 year old's sex ed class discussion and my 21 year old's talk in the car to the airport to pick up the girlfriend that stayed with us for 4 weeks over the holidays:-) I love your writing.
rated for carrying a tune
eeeee!! You're a great parent for having that kind of relationship with your kids. I'd be like the Daddy. I don't want my child to get hormones.
Great post. Now I know what to look out for.
My brother Tim used to tell the guys on our baseball team that they had no right to give parental advice until they had a kid of their own. My brother in law Mark said we couldn't tell our kids what we did until they had kids of their own.
I started telling my daughter the truth when she called me to bail her out of jail on a shoplifting charge. She thinks I'm clueless and I'm absolutely sure she is.
One of us is right.
oooh - la la!
great post
love your style
:) hahhaha
I don't have kids, so I can laugh...loudly.
My mother didn't TRY To have that kind of relationship with us -although, the older I get, the somewhat closer she and I are to laughing and confiding, but not at that level- but my sister, at about fifteen, decided she would have that kind of relationship with my mother.

My mother was staggered. She called me one day at college, to tell me she didn't know what to do. "There are some things...a mother shouldn't know..."
If they ask I figure you should answer. But, hey, I'm like you and think if they turn to you, rather than the crazy outside world, it's a major compliment. They believe you. And they trust your answers.
Good job mom.
You are obviously a great mom. Your children always feel confident to come to you to talk about things. That's good.

But yes! Too much information can be painful for any mom. eek.
Yes, honesty. Ahem. I want my children to be honest with me, but I don't always enjoy the results. My son told me stuff awhile back that I won't even repeat to his mother. Ugh! And I sure as H-E-double hockey heck hide many "truths" I will NEVER share with my children. Ever.
Nick, thank you!

MB, I’d love to read your post on the subject!

Shew doesn’t begin to cover it, UK!

Thank you Scruffus!

John, perhaps it’s more of a sliding scale? But yes, insanity is a teenager.

SNLM (do we ever get to find out your married name? ;) thank you –

Hyblaen (did I finally get that right?) thank you!

Hobo, or at least, really, really, really doesn’t want to – thank you for reading!

GL, I honestly thought everyone would be criticizing for the over-share, so thank you!

Odette, agree to the eek (and add an euuuuuuuuu!)

RB, yeppers there are things they aren’t go to hear from me until I write my uncensored memoirs – verrrrr little chance of that happening!

Thank you all for reading -
Great post. Sounds like you have a great relationship with your kids. I can totally relate to not wanting them to be too honest - will have to try the lalalalala fingers in my ears.
Oh yes, TMI!!!!!! La la la la la la la la la la la la la!!!

You are a great mom. Carry a whistle, blow it when they get near the "cupping balls" part. (Teaching boundaries 101 -- seems to work for me.)

Great post. Rated. My take on daughters and their men here:
http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=46742

I don't want honesty anymore either, unless they need my blood or bail money.
nora and kate, thank you for reading!
(now i have to put my fingers back in my ears :)
It's hard when you've taught them to be honest with you and then they pick this one time to actually do what you say. How on earth do you teach "honest, but not THAT honest?" It sounds like you're doing very well even with having to stick your fingers in your ears from time to time.
That is soooo funny! I love it!
But at my house, my open frank discussions on S.E.X. too often end up my daughters with their hands over their ears singing lalalalalalalalaLALALALALALALALA. Why do they do that? One did call me to ask about vaginitis and how often should women have orgasms. Then I said...did I really ask for that...did I really want to know about that? Not so much.
Well, I don't have kids, but I felt the same way when I found a half dozen viagra "empties" while straightening out the cupboards at my elderly (mid-80s) parents' place. La, la, la, la, la.....
lisa, carol, yes, there is such a thing as tmi, but oh, well!

laurel, 'la la la euuuuuuuuu la la la'

thank you all for reading!
OMG . . . . I have tears streaming down my face from laughing!

I never could go to my mother with "this" kinda of stuff. My best friends Mom, that was a different story! She told me about EVERYTHING I wanted to know.

I "learned" using popsicles, LOL Still can't eat one without busting up.

The only thing my Mother told me about sex was "you do it when your older"

This was priceless! LMAO!
As I look forward to my son's second birthday in 10 days, I now have a possible glimpse of the future.

Thanks. :-P
Miss Maudie, Lady Miko & Austin, thank you - !
egads! is this what I have to look forward to. lalalalaLALALALALALA! I'm also an advocate of the frank and open discussions with my kids - including explaining to my 1st grader after several attempts to define "gay" in euphemistic terms, "but Christine & I love each other, we hold hands & kiss" that it actually means having sex with someone of the same sex. TMI, perhaps, but if they ask...

oh well...perhaps you need to share the ice cream cone tricks
There are tears in my eyes from trying not to laugh out loud at the office (and rinse my screen with my morning coffee at the same time)! And thank you for warning me! Darling son is only 7 at this point, but we also have a rather honest relationship... I am preparing the mental filter now.
Laughing out loud! It sounds lke you have a great relationship with your kids, but even then, it isn't always easy!
OMG...TEN years old having S.E.X. dreams? I have six grandkids (2 to 14) and encourage talking about everything - but we haven't got to sex dreams yet - you are a great writer! Thanks!
Hee hee hee...... :)
Gosh, I’m sorry guys – I didn’t realize there were more comments on this post, it’s been super crazy at the office, so:

Ha! Monique, thank you.

Lps, no need for euphemism, just say that some girls like girls and some like boys – then u just up it as they get older. :)

Michael – I love you and your pussy. ;)

Wordsmith, stick with the classic filter: lalalalalalaLALALA.

Faith, thank you!

Dragonlady, thank you! At least it seems to be still firmly in fantasy land!

Merwoman: Hee hee hee...... :) indeed! Thank you for reading –