Open Post To Greg Thomas, Kind of Blue & Behind Blue Eyes
Greg, man you are exhausting!
You come, you go, you flounce, you whine, you threaten, you leave nice comments, you leave hateful comments, you are a victim, you are a vigilante, you are seriously getting on my nerves!
Someone named Kalvin was out to get you. What a drama. Someone left OS. You went nuts, tried to get us to go with you and some did. Finally that blew over.
Then you got upset because you were not, in your opinion, getting enough attention and you were jealous of those who were. So then the big “Can I be the most popular experiment?” was executed and you won. You will probably be on the front page forever along with Pit Bulls in Spamalot and Kaysong. Good for you. I missed the point, but if it keeps you happy for a while then good.
The Dr. Amy thing: before or after the not getting enough attention thing? Who knows?
There is also the Emma Peel thing. You actually used the word “f**k” in a comment to her.
You whine about Kerry, Joan and anyone who does not let you have your way. Jocelyn Testes-Harder drives you up the wall! All those undeserved EP's and covers!
Now you have left one of your blogs over the Adsense nonsense, yet you continue to stay commenting and posting as usual. You are escalating. What is next a suicide threat if we do not read your 10,000 posts a day, rate and comment to your satisfaction?
Oh yeh, you got all whacked out about the fact that some people are tired of having their inbox read, Kind of Blue, Kind of Blue, Kind of Blue….. Then you went through your favorites list and got all worked up about people who have supposedly dumped you.
I am sure I have forgotten some of your tantrums. It’s hard to keep up.
What in the hell are you doing?
You remind me of a spoiled child who is constantly whining and throwing temper tantrums. You threaten to run away from home, but you just go to the neighbor’s house. And then there you are, back on OS with some new OS complaint and your insatible need for attention. I think that we are all growing weary of coddling you.
I shudder to think what type of drama this post will engender.
Sorry, but it is time someone stepped into the parenting role. You have to learn how to function in the real OS world. I do not want you to quit writing or leave OS as you do have something worthwhile to say. Let’s just keep it professional. Is that okay with you?
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Is that professional enough for you?
"Juglyn Tatas Wilder" is even in the same league as my own.
I realize that you were just in a dark place.
Didn't your mom ever threaten to spank you "in front of all these people"?
That's the only time it counts.
Please don't throw mud at my friend.
You don't know me and I don't know you, so you can think what you want about me. Since you aren't a friend you know nothing nor will know nothing about me.
I wish you the best with your instability and any other sheeple who follower the herder.
I'm sure just a caricature in hiding.
This is exactly what I’m talking about. Very mature!
Roger,
I think JTH summed it up.
JTH,
Thanks for your comments! Juglyn Tatas Wilder? Out of the mouths of babes :)
Freaky, You’re so freaky, but cute
LadyMiko, Sorry to have upset you.
Kind of Blue aka Greg aka Behind Blue Eyes, I’m getting a Multiple Personality Vibe here.
Roger, I so understand burn out.
LadyMiko, Yes, short and vulgar.
Kind of Blue, Do you know Behind Blue Eyes?
Since I suffer from depression and anxiety disorder it seemed kind of appropriate.
This is the last I have to offer on this ridiculous post. This place has so much hatred and so much judgmentalism and that is why it's really not worth the fight.
But only by illiterate, politically correct morons.
My sincerest apologies. I'm bluely sorry.
Outta here!
http://open.salon.com/blog/behind_blue_eyes/2009/06/27/
blueskys_is_really_kind_of_blue_wgratuitous_nudity
My post is not about hatred. It’s about frustration. I think that there is far too much time spent on OS dealing with your drama. Can’t you see what I mean from the examples that I listed in my post? The fact that you are calling this hatred is a good example of my point. If you will recall, I said that your post are worthwhile and that it’s the other stuff that is so annoying. You should be glad that someone has finally had the courage to confront you. And I do know you. Just because I haven’t posted very much during my time here doesn’t mean that I haven’t been reading. How else could I be so familiar with your history? This is an opportunity to look at your self and grow. Have you noticed that no one has disputed the content of my post other than the comment about Kalvin? Which is a point well taken. However, my feelings about the whole thing were to ignore him and he would go away. I know that it must be hard for you face some unpleasant aspects of your personality. The saying that the truth hurts is true. You know that. So take this in stride and learn to lighten up about all things OS. After all it is just a blog.
But only by illiterate, politically correct morons.
JTH,
I just wish you didn't have so much trouble taking a stand :)
I'm bluely sorry too! Girl, you need to get some sleep, ha ha. This whole thing has gotten really crazy. Sorry that you and Mr. Mustard are going to start hitting the drugs, AGAIN :) As for me, time for another drink. Looks like I've opened a big ole can worms. You guys have a big time, lol.
Wait, what?
You will be very disappointed if it doesn't, won't you? The only motivation I can see for writing this post is to start a flame war. How dare you give parental advice to Greg?
I am so sorry he took down his posts. I hope he starts writing again.
To make this your second post on OS seems outrageous. I have had my disagreements with Greg in the past, but he is always gracious about apologizing and accepting apologies. I have read all of his posts; I particularly love his stories about his family and his music posts.
Greg in no way, shape, or form deserves this. He has been honest about his difficulties personally and on OS. Since I share many of them, I understand.
Anyone who regularly reads OS would not confuse Behind Blue Eyes and Kind of Blue.
If that's so, then why write a post about it? Sounds like you are cashing in on someone else's story to me. How very "amatuer."
I don't always agree with many here, but Greg has as much right to post as often and on any subject he likes. Unfortunately, it also gives you the right to post an inflammatory and insulting post like this one, but that doesn't make it right to do so. That is what the OPEN part of Open Salon is all about, or did you not get that memo?
Normally I would not get into one of these things because they are so incredibly childish. But for you, I will make a rare exception.
If you've been reading Greg's posts for so long, you should know that he has been dealing with many mental issues his whole life. He is very open about that and you should take that into consideration before you start berating him in a public form.
There are far better ways to handle an issue than to do it publicly. If you don't like the programming, change the fucking channel.
This post isn't about Greg though, it is about how you feel about Greg. I think you should have just kept your feelings to yourself.
I hope you are enjoying your little sideshow but if you look at your rating to comment ratio, you will see that this post sucks.
Not hiding behind an avatar,
Sincerely,
Lay off Greg and get back to spanking Freaky!
Cindy, you are so sweet to look after Freaky.
Ablonde, thanks for giving Freaky a much deserved spanking. I got my hands full right now.
Tinkertink69, I just ordered the OS book club book about you. Can’t wait to get it!
Delia, Yes, I think I’ve learned my lesson. From now on if I ever feel the need, a PM will be my first choice.
Redstocking Grandma, You couldn’t be more about wrong about my motives.
CoyoteOldStyle, Cashing in. How so? Do you know something I don’t. I wish there was cash involved ï�Š
Michael Rodgers, Being able to write anonymously is one of the great things about OS. It gives you the freedom to bare your soul and not have to worry about people in your real life learning too much about you, especially if there are part of your post.
LadyMiko, Don’t worry freaky is being taken care of.
Susan Mitchell, see above.
Nobody wants to be mean to you. If you could put your ego aside for few minutes, you may find that this post was meant to be helpful by pointing out some things that someone should have said a long time ago. Please see my most recent comment on my blog. It may help clear things up.
http://open.salon.com/blog/blueskys/2009/06/27/
open_post_to_greg_thomas_kind_of_blue_behind_blue_eyes
Thanks,
I thought I was on the BBE blog. It's all so confusing. I wish he hadn't created a post. But he did.
Sorry,
DON'T READ THEM!
Seriously...almost anyone can write here about almost anything that they want, about as often or as infrequently as they want. That's the genius of the thing.
Nobody's forcing anybody to be here, or to stay here. Any one of us can walk away for any reason at any time...no harm, no foul. It's nice to politely let people know you're going--people have formed real friendships here, and without that they may assume something has happened to you--but it's not required. And if someone's flouncing--ignore 'em.
Of course you are right. This is a special case because anytime day or night I could log in and see Kind of Blue listed under New Posts, his comments on the left feed, listed under updates, sometimes on the cover or EP's and my inbox was full of PM's from him. I like his writing and often his titles were intriguing. So I liked to read him, but I just grew so tired of reassuring, coddling, asking him not to leave, etc. I felt like I needed to do that because he comes across as such a victim and I know he has issues. Believe it or not, I am a kind and empathic person. I was on his friends list under another name. I didn't want to use my other name becasue I knew there would be a firestorm after my post. Self-preservation.
Thanks for your comment,
I really don't care what you think about Greg. And I doubt if the rest of the world cares either. But many of us do care about Greg and that care has come as the result of a long time relationship with a good man. He is my dear friend and nothing will change that. He has stood up for me early in my time here when I was misunderstood by some and I have tried to have his back when he has been bashed for no good reason.
If, in fact, you have some doubt about having posted this it is simple to remove the post. Then the doubt would go away.
To claim that you are being the adult and parenting another adult is something that you need think long and hard about. You have no right to do it, and even if you did it I can assure you it cannot be done.
It is easy to get in over our heads on OS, but the mechanism to get out of sticky situation like this is a click away when it comes to removing a post.
Apologies are always nice, but you may feel that you are in too deep for that and meant well. If so, apologies still work.
Take care,
Monte
Thanks for your response. I actually did consider deleting the post right before BBE decided to copy it and put it on his site just in case I decided to delete it. I was stunned and horrified, espcially since he decided to add porno to it. BTW my most recent post is a joke. Even if someone were crazy enough make a nomination (oh wait, Sandra Stephens nominated herself) Something positive has come from all this. I got a PM from Freaky Troll who professed that s/he is falling in love with me. It's so hard to tell the gender of trolls. This could be the beginning of something beautiful.
Take care,
That should read:
Even if someone were crazy enough make a nomination (oh wait, Sandra Stephens nominated herself) I wouldn't post it.
Sorry 'bout that!
I have done more than my share of acting out my bipolar disorder on OS, and I have been very lucky people have been understanding and supportive and willing to accept my apologies. So I might understand and identify with Greg's emotional reactions more than some of you.
I agree that sometimes it is hard to understand some things that you have not experienced personally. My ex-mother in-law was bipolar and she really struggled. She could be a real pill sometimes, but we loved her just the same. It’s a chemical imbalance so we all tried to work around it as best we could. Sorry that you have to deal with this illness. I know it is very difficult. If you decide to go off on me sometime in the future, I promise I’ll cut you a ton of slack.
Hang in there!
Thanks for having the courage to share,
The infallible warning sign is that I change my avatar to a picture of me in my hot 20s and change my name as well. Buffy the Vampire Slayer or Glinda the Good or Ozma of Oz would be warning signs.
http://open.salon.com/blog/kind_of_blue
Things just have a way of working out sometimes. This is truly a blessing.








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Me too! I feel like entered a parallel universe or an alternate reality or something that has yet to be named. Please take me with back to dropping pyramid and eating weed-brownies with you.
Pretty funny BBE, if that's your real name . I'm starting to suspect that you are really Kerry. Bring on the flying monkeys.
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Please take me back to dropping pyramid and eating weed-brownies with you. Pleeeaaaassse!
Wouldn't it be great if there was a way to edit our comments?
Kerry, put that on your list, lol.
Steve and Stellaa - one uber blogger. hee, hee
Funny, that was my nickname in high school.
This is really good stuff:
1) JTH deserves to be on the cover with every post and is pure comic genius. I am waiting for her to throw over that idiot she shacked up with so we can truly be together and can stop having encounters in the alley behind the bowling alley. Bowling alley alley sex is hot, but I am starting to feel dirty.
GOOD FOR YOU GUYS. GOTTA LOVE THE BOWLING ALLEY SEX! POOR PHIL.
2) Fuck should always be spelled out and those too prissy to do so are not worth reading. Fuck. Fuckity, fuck, fuck. Cock, shit, piss, tits, cunt, fuck! Maturity and professionalism are overrated.
ISN'T THAT SPECIAL!
3) Stellaa is me or I am Stellaa or something like that. Except for the days when I am Lonnie Lazar. Every once in a while I am Julie except for when she is busy being hyblaean.
BRILLANT AND FUCKING FUNNY AS HELL!
So rated!
Hey, wanna be friends?
Stellaa, Sounds like you two have an identity crisis going. Good luck with that!
Mr. Mustard, Sorry you got caught up in this mess.
Zumi, Looks like you’ve found a new friend.
Kresskin, Yes!
Steve, Damn that’s funny!
Freaky, You just do whatever you want you adorable little troll.
Stellaa, Uber, yes, yes!
Zumi, We all make mistakes. It’s all good.
Jocelyn, I think I dated you. You hot little bowling alley slut.
Cindy, Dear Cindy, Who better to watch Freaky?
Just love you guys to pieces!
What cha mean? What the fuck?
You are more in tune with this. Please let me know when this is all sorted out.
The beefcake, that's for Freaky, right?
So Greg is really Stellaa? I fucking KNEW it!
Sheesh....
Then we will have another flame war. There's too much drama around here.
BlueSkys, you write: "I shudder to think what type of drama this post will engender.
You will be very disappointed if it doesn't, won't you? The only motivation I can see for writing this post is to start a flame war. How dare you give parental advice to Greg?
I am so sorry he took down his posts. I hope he starts writing again.
To make this your second post on OS seems outrageous. I have had my disagreements with Greg in the past, but he is always gracious about apologizing and accepting apologies. I have read all of his posts; I particularly love his stories about his family and his music posts.
Greg in no way, shape, or form deserves this. He has been honest about his difficulties personally and on OS. Since I share many of them, I understand.
Anyone who regularly reads OS would not confuse Behind Blue Eyes and Kind of Blue.
BTW, who's the chick in the B&W photo? She looks like Kate Moss.
Greg, I got your back. Sorry that I made it to the fight late, but please just ignore this garbage (the Blueskys stuff, that is).
BBE is just being BBE, and as far as identity is concerned, I always thought BBE was the long vanished "LT BOHICA"
Now, can't we all go back to being angry and offended by the truly disgusting shit on this blog? (That would be the expedia.com ad)
Okay, enough is enough! BBE, I thought you were better then this? Come on.
Tearing someone apart is NOT funny. That is just mean. "Blueskys" post was uncalled for and making light of it is horrible!
I'm relatively new to OS, having just left my online home of five years over similar behavior. I'm disappointed. I thought this place was better than what is shown here.
Frankly, no matter how much I might like some and not care much for others, I'm here in Rodney King mode And to say the same as I've said about TV or radio... if you don't like something, tune it out.
I do not understand why people sit behind their computer monitors and deliberately set out to hurt people. If you have a comment for someone, and you really feel compelled to say it, at least have the decency to put it in a private message. Attempting to publicly humiliate Greg for the sake of a few laughs is beneath contempt.
This kind of crap has got to stop. Regardless of pyramid and weed-brownies, I see not colors, but crap, I'm vibing not on intensity but sadness.
This no longer has much to do with Greg and everything to do with Blueskys just stirring the pot. (See his/her latest post.) I said my piece over there on his post about Greg. And am out this food fight.
BBE and I are friends, ditto with Greg. I will leave it at that.
And while the food fight is on please don't waste the cake. Think about Freaky and how she will feel if perfectly good cake is thrown at someone!
Monte
D A N G !!
What does it matter that anybody is anybody else? Hell, I talk to myself all the time......Ulp!....Just realized I should not have told anyone that.
Just one thought.....mixed with a tender request for Blueskys:
Do it in a PM, or better yet, not at all........Know someone's whole history. Greg has always bared his soul....in ways that have pushed me to the point of squirming a little. His courage in confronting his failures and difficulties with his health, and many other issues, combined with notices, explanations and thoughtful essays on the trials and triumphs of himself, his friends, family members, folks he admires, and public individuals inspires us. Gazing into the depths that Greg has revealed to us takes us into unpleasant places on occasion........but that is the purpose of ART,......... is it not?
I feel Greg raises good questions, some of which I do not agree, but I still want to hear what he feels compelled to say.
I am saddened he has left this forum, because I remind myself of the importance of people who stir things a little, and retain the courage to find civility, and continue practicing it, while loving his colleagues deeply. ...........sometimes when I am reading one of Greg's posts, I think of James Joyce when he said: "......to make them see I throw dust in their eyes......."
Thankfully, all is well with KOB. He posted an amazing, hearfelt post and he is back. http://open.salon.com/blog/kind_of_blue. It is my understanding from the many PM's that I received that you and KOB had some sort of falling out a while back. From all the information that I have recieved you are not a fan of KOB's. I was also informed that this is not the first time that you have copied and pasted someone's post and created a post of your own.
I now feel certain that I should have handled this through a PM. My mistake. However, you added fuel to the fire by creating this post. I don't think that it is ethical for someone to hijack a post to further his or her own personal agenda.
So, I hope that in the future you will refrain from this practice. This is not a first strike in a flame war. I'm just trying to keep it real. Maybe you should try it.
That should have been NEVER!
Obviously you are not familiar with all the wonderful work BBE does to increase the readership for the best posts on Open Salon in Digg and Redditt, especially the political ones. He/she is our tutor and guide.
I admit it took me a while to understand BBE's methods and motives, but now I have great respect for him/her and read all his posts..