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SEPTEMBER 6, 2009 11:52AM

How does all that Hope and Change taste now? (Update 13)

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  change?

 

 The truth is that every morning war is declared afresh. And the men who wish to continue it are as guilty as the men who began it, more guilty perhaps, for the latter perhaps did not foresee all its horrors. -Marcel Proust, novelist (1871-1922)

Last October I took major shit from OS luminaries for predicting Obama would be more of the same.  

Turns out I was right.

Many of those OSers who criticized have changed their tune and come down off their hopium highes.  Many have not.

It seems the new meme is to attack those who are critical of Obama's many failures to act and his many failures to do the right thing with charges of racism.

Criticizing Obama does not mean you're a racist

I even recently received an email stating that those criticizing Obama are racist whackjobs who are faulting Obama for being "President While Black" (PWB). 

It asked, "Exactly what IS your problem with the properly elected president in office right now?"

Oh, bull fucking shit.

Here is my reply to that email and to those who try to suppress valid criticisms of Obama:

I do not follow the website you refer to and am not sure why you put me on your distro list for this email, but purely based on what you wrote in the email - You need to check yourself.

Obama is a war criminal just like most US Presidents for the past 200 odd years.

As just one small instance proving his criminal nature, Obama is responsible for the predator drones that have killed hundreds of innocent people with missile launches along the Af/Pak border since he was sworn in on Jan 20. 

Are those people not human beings?  Do their murders not count?

Denying the illegality of their deaths is what is racist.

Murdering hundreds of innocent people in direct violation of International Treaties and the rules of war cannot be overlooked.  Obama is guilty.

Obama is a mass murderer like the Bushes, Clinton, Reagan, Nixon, LBJ, Kennedy, etc before him.

Far from backing away from the war in Afghanistan, Obama has increased our presence there and upped the casualties considerably.   He currently plans to send even more troops into harms way which will inevitably result in more deaths for all sides.

Are you only anti-war when it is a war being promoted by a Republican?

Despite his party having overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress, Obama has not ended the wars, has not repealed the Patriot Act, has not repealed FISA, has not stopped rendition or torture, has not closed GITMO, has not closed Bagram, has not closed the third country black program prisons, and I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON.

Call me RACIST, I dare you.  Call me a HATER, I double dare you.

Better yet, wake up and realize the Democratic party is little better than the Republican.  They are both owned by the same corporate interests and serve the same wealthy war profiteers.  Dennis Kucinich and Russ Fiengold are the minority and the fringe and rare.

Yes, some "conservatives" may dislike Obama because he has mixed heritage, but progressives who have a clue about the world know he is just another scum bag politician who makes promises with no intention of keeping them.

Knowing better and refusing to pick the lesser of two evils, I did not vote for Obama.

I cast my ballot for Nader - a true hero.

Sure Obama is better than McCain would have been - along the lines that being kicked in the gut is always better than being kicked in the balls.

Wake up!

PS - Don't even get me started on so called healthcare reform.  Since when is a public option radical?  Public option is legalized rape by the insurance companies of millions of more Americans which will only serve to enrich the greedy corporations that are causing this crisis to begin with.  What happened to single payer?  HR676 (medicare for all) has 93 sponsors signed on in the house.  It should become the law of the land and no half assed bullshit compromises should be accepted.

 

" The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who won't do anything about it."
~ Albert Einstein ~
 

 

And lastly as you contemplate your electoral options in 2012, chew on this letter to the editor published by the Seattle Times:

 Democratic Party fails to keep politicians accountable

The Democratic Party is dead. It might be walking, but it is effectively dead. It is time for a third party. Sure the Democrats have had ups and downs but the long, slow slide started when we failed to prosecute Richard Nixon for obvious crimes.

We let the oil companies steal from us during the gas shortages. We failed to stand up to the "government is the problem" propaganda of Ronald Reagan. We failed to reinstate the Fairness Doctrine. We didn't prosecute George H.W. Bush and his cronies for crimes committed in Central America. We said nothing when Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1997, which allowed unparalleled consolidation in news media and the spread of anti-public propaganda worthy of Tokyo Rose or Joseph Goebbels.

We allowed the Supreme Court to appoint George W. Bush to a position he was clearly unsuited for and then re-elected him again four years later. We let Bush take away civil rights, violate the Constitution and lie us into two illegal wars.

We allowed the appointment of Supreme Court justices that only serve the mega-corporations and their leaders. And now we are allowing the right wing to kill true health-care reform, change that could transform the lives of millions of Americans for the better, free citizens from dead-end jobs just to maintain health insurance and create a new business climate that would add jobs for millions.

For decades the Democratic Party has failed to stand strong in the face of propaganda, lies and those who have stolen our prosperity. It is time to start a true progressive party, wooing actual liberals from the Democratic Party and wooing true patriots from the Republican Party.

We must start now, with the next election, and never fail to stand up to the bullies who are screaming in our faces as they reach into our pockets.

-- John S. Snow, Woodinville

 

The cost of "exporting democracy" is real blood on our hands.  Look at what your blind support of Obama is costing:

 

azizabad killed afghanistan child

 

dead Afghanistan child

 

dead afghanistan children kids

 

Imagine those are your kids lying there dead.  What is the solution to Af/Pak?  Nicholas Kristof nailed it.  Education and agricultural development, not more troops and bombs and dead children.

Edit on October 3, 2009:

To those fools in the comments below saying give Obama more time or excusing his piss poor performance because he is merely the president and the dems of the House and Senate do not have his back, explain away these things that have been ALL WITHIN OBAMA's CONTROL:

 

Obama supports extending Patriot Act provisions

and

Obama extends blockade on Cuba for another year

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Bagram: The sham of closing

and

Obama Fires Diplomat for Urging Fraud Probe in Afghan Vote

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Obama Hires a general who Tortured Men to death in Iraq and covered up the Tillman Murder to Run Afghanistan

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The Obama Justice Department has very little interest in ustice for the detainees at Gitmo, but an obsession with guarding the dark secrets of their predecessors.

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Obama quietly deploying 13,000 more US troops to Afghanistan (Oct 13, 2009)

Move is separate from Nato commander General Stanley McChrystal's request to increase troop levels

 

 

Get real. 

Obama could stop killing little kids in Afghanistan with Predator drones in an instant just by ordering it or is he suddenly not the Commander in Chief of the military?

 If he has the time to proactively work to keep the Patriot Act intact and continue a policy of indefinite preventive detention in violation of all consitutional principles, he has had the time to have closed Gitmo, etc.

Stop excusing his fuck ups and misdeeds and hold the war criminal you voted for to account.

If I am naive, you are all GOOD GERMANS and should be ashamed.

Those who write the deaths in Af/Pak are the cost of the reality of politics are scum sucking assholes who are complicit in murder and war crimes.  

 

Update on October 4, 2009:

Even Saturday Night Live gets it. 

What has Obama done for the US? 

"I'm seeing two big accomplishments: Jack and Squat."

 

 

 

 Update October 13, 2009:

Seems you people need to learn a little something about Ralph Nader. 

Your ignorance is appalling, but not unexpected. 

Especially those who wrote in their comments that I had voted for a Green.  Nader ran as an Independent in 2008.  That just shows how stupid some of you people are.  You don't even know who the third party candidates and independents were.  Too willing to suck the dick of the corporate duo-party and midlessly chant hope and change while children are murdered for profit.

In 2008, Nader was the best of a bunch of bad by a mile, but no means ideal.  There are many other I would have voted before him, but none of them were running. 

 Obama was obviously a more of the same corporate owned hack.  McCain was Obama only older and not as slick. There are only cosmetic differences between the two to keep each party's faithful convinced the Democratic and Republicans parties are not the corporate owned duo-party that they really are. Things like abortion, etc.  The Democratic wing of the duo-party pretends to be pro-choice while the Republican wing pretends to be pro-life.  The better to fleece the sheep while the beat goes on.

If you think I threw my vote away while congratulating yourself for voting for War Criminal Obama, you are a stupid fool. 

By any standard, your vote was just as "wasted" if not more since it hasn't produced jack or squat to quote SNL.   Just more corporate hegemony and murder.

Nader on the other hand has saved hundreds of thousands of lives due to his automobile safety activism, not to mention his work to force the FDA to do their job.  

Merely visiting the Wikipedia entry would aid you tremendously.

"When asked about claims of being a spoiler, Nader typically points to the controversial Supreme Court ruling that halted a Florida recount, Gore's loss in his home state of Tennessee, and the "quarter million Democrats who voted for Bush in Florida." " - Wiki

Did you notice the link above about Obama quietly sending 13,000 more soldiers to Afghanistan?  Real man of peace that president Obama is.

 

Update October 25, 2009

Obama Is Keeping Bush's Worst "War on Terror" Policies Firmly In Place

Thanks to behind-the-scenes maneuvering by the Obama administration, a bipartisan majority has approved legislation that seems to abandon hope of reining in the Patriot Act.

Update October 30, 2009

Obama administration quietly signs record military spending bill...includes provisions for trying Guantanamo detainees using miltary tribunals, exempts photos taken by the military from 9/11/2001 until 1/22/2009 from Freedom of Information Act requests, and more:

"In a ceremony Wednesday, US President Barack Obama signed legislation authorizing the largest ever military budget, a gargantuan $680 billion for the Pentagon, including $130 billion for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. On Thursday, he signed a spending bill funneling another $44 billion into the Department of Homeland Security, to strengthen the apparatus of state repression within the United States."

"Each of the bills contained provisions aimed at further restricting democratic rights. The Pentagon budget bill authorizes the use of military tribunals to try prisoners at Guantanamo Bay and others seized illegally, either overseas or within the US, as part of the “war on terror.” It also bars the release of Guantanamo prisoners—even those found completely innocent—into the United States. It prohibits bringing Guantanamo prisoners to trial on US soil without a 45-day advance notice to Congress."

"The Department of Homeland Security appropriations bill effectively prohibits the release of photographs taken by US military personnel during torture sessions at US bases in Iraq, Afghanistan and Guantanamo Bay. It exempts these photos from the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act, under which the American Civil Liberties Union and several media outlets have filed suit in federal court. The exemption would apply, not just to the photos sought by the ACLU, but to any photos taken between September 11, 2001 and January 22, 2009 to which the Pentagon has objections."

"Obama signed the record Pentagon budget less than three weeks after receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. He then traveled to Dover Air Force Base in Delaware to be photographed late Wednesday night standing at attention as the coffins of 18 US military personnel killed in Afghanistan in the last few days arrived in the United States."

 

Yes, that Obama is so wonderful.  Look how he covers up the crimes of the past administrations and perpetuates unconstitutional acts.   What hope!  What change!

 

Update October 31, 2009:

Obama, proving yet again that he is the new boss, same as the old boss, releases the list of Whitehouse visitors after scrubbing it carefully of visitors he doesn't want you to know about.

and

"The Obama administration has essentially adopted the position of the Bush administration in these cases, even though candidate Obama was incredibly critical of both the warrantless wiretapping program and the Bush administration's abuse of the state secrets privilege" Change? 

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 Update November 1, 2009:

"According to Pakistani authorities, from January 14, 2006 to April 8, 2009, 60 U.S. strikes against Pakistan killed 701 people, of which 14 were Al-Qaeda militants and 687 innocent civilians."

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Freedom of Press Takes HUGE Blow. Congress Passes Bill that Forces Reporters to Reveal Sources in "National Security" Cases. Obama WILL sign.

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Obama's latest use of "secrecy" to shield presidential lawbreaking

What was once depicted as a grave act of lawlessness -- Bush's NSA program -- is now deemed a vital state secret.
 
"The DOJ continues to embrace the very same 'state secrets' theories of the Bush administration -- which Barack Obama specifically once vehemently condemned -- and is doing so in order literally to shield the President from judicial review or accountability when he is accused of breaking the law."
 
Update November 11, 2009:
 
 
and 

 

How Obama Sold Women Out

The heath-care abortion mess is just the latest example of how Barack Obama took women’s votes—then let the country’s majority constituency down

and

Pharma Deal With White House On Course To Net Industry Billions

 

Update November 14, 2009:

Obama has authorized more predator drone strikes in Pakistan in 10 months than George W. Bush authorized in three years, killing over 500 people. 

and

U.S. defence bill would pay Taliban to switch sides. Does anyone think paying people to switch sides can possibly work? Does anybody seriously think that they will buy arms instead and attack the US army with the jizya money? This proposal is beyond idiotic.

and

UK: Former British ambassador reveals that UK and US military in Afghanistan are protecting the biggest heroine crop of all time and that Afghan leaders supported by the West are the region's drug lords. 

and

Obama's Torture Photo Cover-up - Defense Secretary Robert Gates has used powers granted to him by a controversial new law to block the court-ordered release of numerous photos of detainee abuse, government lawyers revealed in a court filing Friday evening.

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The Obama administration promised to reform the financial system and make it safe for the rest of us, but recent Congressional action is more likely to reset the fuse for another explosive calamity.

Update November 15, 2009:

Obama Unveils His Expanded Torture Facility At Bagram - "The new prison wing cost some $60 million to build ... and is meant to be part of a new era of openness and transparency," Bays said. "But we were not shown the detainees themselves."

and

In 2008, Obama ran a TV ad against Billy Tauzin for his role in preventing Medicare from negotiating lower drug prices. In August, the White House made a deal with Tauzin to protect drug prices.

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While eliminating the Taliban leader Baitullah Mehsud, the United States launched at least 15 missile strikes and killed, besides Mr. Mehsud, somewhere between 200 and 300 people. Was that toll "disproportionate" to the threat posed by a single terrorist and therefore a war crime?  (I don't agree with the conclusion made about the Goldstone Report, but the point about killing 200 to 300 people to eliminate one person is obscene.)

and

White House estimates that each soldier in Afghanistan will cost $1,000,000 per year.  Think of what that money could do to improve healthcare or infrastructure instead.

and

Obama rules out Copenhagen global warming treaty - Barack Obama conceded on Sunday that next month’s Copenhagen summit would not produce a legally binding agreement to tackle global warming, in a move that prompted groans of disappointment from environmental groups.

 

Update November 17, 2009:

White House panel gives insurance companies the green light to force women under the age of 50 to pay for their own mammograms 

and

An escalation in Afghanistan would mean outlays for the 1-yr Pentagon budget approaches the total outlays of the entire 10-yr health care bill.  Priorities, people?

and

The US fails to send a representative to the UN hunger summit, yet 17 million Americans cannot afford to eat.  Plenty of money for illegal wars that devestate other countries, but 17 million Americans go hungry in our so called land of plenty.

and

Obama lawyers to Democrat Don Siegelman alleging political prosecution by the Bush Admin: Go back to jail.  Remember this guy?  He is the one Karl Rove conspired against.  The former Governor of Alabama.

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Healthcare reform we can believe in: Health insurers will be allowed to bypass crucial necessary reforms in most Senate versions of the healthcare bill.

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Change you can taste: Obama nominates Islam Siddiqui, a pesticide industry lobbyist, to be the chief agricultural negotiator for the office of the United States Trade Representative.

 

Update November 22, 2009:

"Obama presides over indefinite detention without habeas corpus for thousands of prisoners being held by this country in Afghanistan. Most of the unspeakable policies initiated under Bush continue in the Obama administration. Where is the change we were promised?"

and

Blackwater Killer Walks After Obama Justice Dept. Drops Charges - The Justice Dept intends to drop manslaughter and weapons charges against one of the Blackwater Worldwide security guards involved in a deadly 2007 Baghdad shooting, prosecutors said in court documents Friday.

 

 

 

 

 

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Way to stick to your principles BBE. Rated
"Sure Obama is better than McCain would have been - along the lines that being kicked in the gut is always better than being kicked in the balls."

Pretty much sums up the choices we have in every election. Great post.
It's getting pretty hard to swallow all of the republican ass kissing after they ran roughshod over everything but their own agenda for the last sixteen years. Fuck 'em we don't need "bipartisan" efforts if they wanted to do anything it would be as simple as writing and passing the goddam bill without a single republican vote. The question is still why aren't they doing just that. Believe me if they took one bill and rammed it down their throats there'd be one ell of a lot less of this bullshit. They need to be shown that they cannot stop the reforms. Unless of course it really is just the same bullshit in a different wrapper.
And you wanted to elect whom in the alternative?
You are EXACTLY correct... Criticism does NOT equal racism UNLESS the one making the accusation is either (a) hypersensitive or (b) themselves racist.

One need NOT be white to be GUILTY of racism and ANYONE who believes that only whites are capable of racism has a distinct lack of critical thinking skills. If expressing negative opinions of someone based ENTIRELY on the color of their skin is "racism" when the person expressing the opinions in question is white it is ALSO racism when the person expressing negative opinions based ONLY on skin color is black. Racism IS. Racism is NOT limited to those who are white. THAT is the fallacy that people who lack critical thinking skills have fallen for.
Man I wish I would stop stumbling onto these posts. Ok, I think a majority of what is going on is racism. I have spent a lifetime marching with blacks in race marches. I am white. I don't think all racists are white. I do think that we are seeing the worst of the worst in our country right now. The racist that hides it behind all kinds of ridiculous things. If that means I don't posess critical thinking well then I think I'll just go and read something else.
It tastes kind of like chicken.
Since you seem to have forgotten why the U.S military is in Afghanistan, here's a reminder;

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e192/combatkelly/Slide%20Show/WTC_attack_9-11.jpg
Gutsy post BBE. Good job!!
When I saw Obama's Chief Advisor swimming around the public option question this morning, I knew. Can we at least dip this shit sandwich in something yummy first? ARRGHH!!
A genuine third party option would be great, but 'til it happens we work with what we got.There's a lot in this post which is absolutely true. There's some which is less accurate, or rather, which you interpret in a different manner than I do. Here's something which IS true; many of those who are against Obama (millions of rednecks nationwide) are against him because they are racists. That's a fact, and if you don't buy that come hang out in my neck of the woods for a while. When all's said and done, he's a centrist, no better than most of that type are, but no worse either. He's a long way from perfect; he is, as you say, just another politician, but he's a whole lot better than the motherfucker we had in there before.
And though it's depressing to have to look at this way, a kick in the gut is a LOT better than a kick in the balls. I've experienced both, and there's no comparison. Maybe one day we'll get a handshake and a kiss 0n the cheek instead, but I'm not holding my breath.
BBE, the sad thing is that I can agree with every single word you have written. I think the military/industrial corporations run the world now, and we must fight like hell or admit the sad fact that we are the slaves of these evils folks.
I say stand up and say nope, no way am I taking this lying down or on my knees, where most folks are right now.
I say shit is shit, black, brown, or white.
I don't mean to rant here, I am now hot under the collar.
Rated highly!!!!!!!!!!!
(I apologize in advance for not remembering how to live link)

No, here's why we're in Afghanistan and will continue to be until the pipeline is secure. Notice the date of the presentation on the first one: two years before 9/11......

Statement by John J. Maresca, Vice President, Unocal Corporation To House Committee On International Relations Subcommittee On Asia And The Pacific, 2/12/98

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/linkscopy/Maresca2USG.html


Chemtrail Central :: View topic - The Afgan oil/gas pipeline and Henry Kissinger

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread6546.html

Afghanistan, Turkmenistan Oil and Gas, and the Projected Pipeline
Rightious indignation! You go boy!
Obama's honeymoon is over and if by the 2012 election the war in Afghanistan will be a millstone around his neck if he doesn't end it, which he won't. Despite all of the promise that he showed, I think D.C. will mold him into just another president who fails to really fix anything.
BBE,

I got yelled at once for saying of President Obama "same ol' bullshit, nice suit".
A bird in the hand is worth what?
I don't agree with everything you said, but I have long hoped for a third party. It has been so easy for corporations to buy off the two we have. If we poured money into advertising for a third party candidate, I think a good portion of America would be interested. As you probably know, Democrats and Republicans came together years ago to keep a third party out of the debates.
"Last October I took major shit from OS luminaries for predicting Obama would be more of the same.

Turns out I was right."

"Let's not start sucking each others dicks quite yet gentlemen."
-Winston Wolf - "Pulp Fiction"
It's been 8 months. Bush was on vacation his first 8 months.
I've never been kicked in the balls, so I will have to take your word on that.

But if there are any loyal Dems reading this I would like to remind you of the 2006 election. The Republicans thought they had that one in their back pocket too, but they lost 32 seats in the House and 6 in the Senate. (The Democrats would've gained 7 seats - and the majority -except they backed Lieberman, so it was a 50-50 tie.)

How quickly political fortunes change. How ever will the Dems keep their majorities when they have alienated them with the midnight "resignation" of Van Jones and the upcoming sellout of the public option.

It's time these centrists find out the limits of their power.
In twelve years of having the majority party in congress, six of which they had a Republican president, the Republicans weren't even interested in TRYING to put together a workable health care bill. Wasn't even a cloud on their horizon.

I'll stick with the president who is at least TRYING to tackle a problem Big Insurance doesn't want him to touch because his doing so threatens their obscene profit margins, and fighting people who have a vested interest in seeing his presidency fail and aren't shy about saying so. I'll stick with the president who's trying to make it illegal to cancel someone's insurance policy just when they need it most.

I like a president who can speak articulately and use correct English.

I like a president who allowed Iran, a sovereign state, to work out their OWN electoral troubles without rushing in and doing something stupid and irreparable. Care to guess how McCain would have responded to that?

I'll stick with the president who wants stem cell research to thrive instead of stifling it on the basis of his own religious narrowness.

I never voted for Obama because I thought he was perfect or because I thought he'd usher in a sort of left wing paradise. I voted for him because I believed he was the best candidate in the race, and because I agreed with him more of the time than I disagreed with him, and because the McCain/Palin ticket was intolerable.

If that means my standards are too low for your delicate sensibilities.... TOUGH.
Woot Woot! You GO!!!!
You go BBE!

As for the matter of the alternative, if you look at all of the really good things that we have in this country, all of them have come about as a result either directly or indirectly because of mass movements. As long as the right wing set the terms of public policy debates in this country (look at the GWOT, look at health care, look at whatever issue you want), it doesn't matter who is in office and what their party affiliation, they could all be socialists, the problems we have now will continue. The only way to set things on a different path is to build a movement of the people that isn't tied into electoral politics and electoral parties. It must create a different political atmosphere and not put its eggs in the basket of electoral politics. Consider how much power the GOP now exerts even though they have been taking major defeats in elections in recent cycles. They understand that setting the terms of debate nationally is where power lies.
For starters, I totally agree with you that criticizing Obama does not make you a racist. I was an unabashed Obama supporter and still am and will be. He is bright, articulate, and has the ability to actually think. Thinking involves being able to process multiple perspectives on an issue at the same time. Reagan and both Bushes did not have this skill.

Obama has disappointed at times, but not even close to make me want to give up on him. Afghanistan is a travesty to say the least. It is wrong, wrong, wrong. I have written several posts about how wrong Obama is on this one. As one of the commenters noted, there’s oil involved here. US foreign policy is always about protecting our financial interests.

I agree that the Dems are just the same as the Repugs. I totally support a third party. The time is actually past due. There is absolutely no effective leadership in the Congress, and that worries me. It is totally about big business and special interests. There is no agenda to improve the lives of Americans, and people around the world, unless some corporation can make a nice profit off it.

Way to put yourself out there!
I respect you tremendously. I am pretty cynical though and don't think citizens can change government on war issues with possibly a few exceptions so I have never been as engaged in that issue. (Though I did do a few things you had recommended in your posts).

I do believe that citizens can have impact on domestic issues and did get involved in health care reform. I am a yellow dog democrat but yes a disillusioned one.

If the Obama administration caves on all the major points of health care reform well then I will be depressed and disillusioned, as I was today when I read the articles that in fact they are starting to cave! I will keep writing and calling legislators but today was a very depressing and sad day b/c I realized we arent getting real reform.

Third party is absolutely something to consider. I would support Ventura or even Howard Dean or just an actual liberal that does not concede everything to the right.
Also I wish you would run for Congress whoever you are.
Shiral,

"because his doing so threatens their obscene profit margins,"

Would you care to explain how much an obscene profit margins is? This is where you liberals come off the track and become a train wreck. You can't do it. It just makes you feel good to complain about somebody who you think is doing well.
I rtd this yesetrday night, was too tired to mention it. this was a very indignant post, would have to find out why you call Nader your hero
I still "keeping hope alive!"
Our country is under one party: The Green Party, The Money Party, -- as in, "Here's how much I cost lobbyists and big corporations if you want to own me and write policy in your favor." When people stop fighting about sides, they will see Republicans and Democrats don't care about us or the issues but themselves. And no president will achieve anything as long as his support is divided and his term is limited. It has been oft said change will come with revolution. We have big problems coming up in the 21st century dealing with the environment and an infrastructure dependent on cheap fossil fuel, the economies of developing nations who want oil and arms, a worldwide financial system that has been leveled and in some ways destroyed, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg. This may be the time -- people losing their jobs, homes, credit, health care, oil supply, etc -- revolution happens. It doesn't have to be a "Reign of Terror" revolution. It can be a photograph like the young student standing before the tank in Tiananmen Square. It can be a million man march but online. All it has to achieve is we do things differently (and hopefully better) than we did before. We just have to care enough about it to do the work. Until we the people are ready to make change, the rest is just hot air.
You ROCK and I love you for it... however, I feel Obama's strategy is that he's more of a centrist - pissing off the far left AND the far right. I for one, have had ENOUGH of right wing bullshit that I feel as if a little left wing bullshit would do us all a world of good -but maybe that's not the case. Maybe if Obama's strategy works, we will ALL be better off. Change is something we need, but change comes SLOWLY, and I say this as a man who's frustrated at the lack of progress, especially in the arena of civil liberties and freedom. However, it's been only 8 months. Important shit takes time. As pissed off as I was, I know that REAL change doesn't happen overnight. I'm not ready to make my judgement call just yet.....

"Monkey Fingered"
I think what we are seeing here is something akin to what Ben Sen calls “projection”. People have been projecting their hopes on to Obama beyond anything they might reasonable expect from him. If anyone criticizes him, they themselves feel vulnerable and even angry, not at Obama, but at his critics.

As you are in “I told you so” mode, I am tempted to repost the article I did before the presidential election in which I recounted the disillusionment in the UK with Blair and Brown.

I recall the day in 1997 when Blair became PM of the UK. You had eight years of Bush. Oh, the euphoria – dancing in the streets! We had eighteen years of the Thatcher and Major in which the country’s economy was broken up and sold to foreign capitalists.

It was quite a shock to us to see that Blair carried on and extended Thatcher’s policies and got the UK involved in Iraq and Afghanistan.

It goes to prove that it is not healthy to delude oneself and live in fantasy land. The slaves in the south coped with captivity, toil and physical abuse by comforting themselves that there would be a better life in heaven. People today comfort themselves when they suffer from dictators by projecting their desires onto a messiah who is going to make it all better.

It is difficult to achieve change through politicians. It is best not to build humans up into heroes.

I can’t believe that people are excusing Obama on the grounds that he is articulate and attractive. Didn’t Americans learn anything through the JFK experience? It’s all smoke and mirrors.
Americans’ dangerous delusions - In his article in The Atlantic, entitled To Catch a Tiger, dated 1 July 2009, Robert D Kaplan acknowledged the success of the Sri Lankan government in defeating the Tamil Tigers

Kaplan admits that tiny, cash-strapped Sri Lanka, generally thought of as “third world” or “developing”, has succeeded where the mighty USA has failed. The man who has dominated Sri Lankan life for the worse for thirty years, Vellupillai Prabakharan, leader of the Tamil Tigers, is dead, while Osama Bin Laden is still living, a free man.

Kaplan asks if the US can learn from Sri Lanka’s success but answers:

“These are methods the U.S. should never use.”

The Sri Lankan government defeated, within its own sovereign borders, with the support of its electorate, what Kaplan admits to be a terrorist group “among the best organized and most ruthless to have emerged anywhere since the Second World War”. The US has for long used and continues to use even more brutal methods than those condemned by Kaplan.

President Obama said: “If the Afghan government falls to the Taliban – or allows al-Qaida to go unchallenged – that country will again be a base for terrorists who want to kill as many of our people as they possibly can (my emphasis). . . For the Afghan people, a return to Taliban rule would condemn their country to brutal governance, international isolation, a paralysed economy, and the denial of basic human rights to the Afghan people – especially women and girls. The return in force of al-Qaida terrorists who would accompany the core Taliban leadership would cast Afghanistan under the shadow of perpetual violence.”
Killing Afghans, Pakistanis, Iraqis doesn’t matter.
Sri Lanka had an even greater interest in avoiding falling to the Tigers. As Kaplan points out 3,000 died on 9/11 – perhaps as many as 100,000 Sri Lankans have died because of the Tigers.
Sri Lanka’s President Rajapaksa responded to criticism from the US of his methods by pointing out that his government had not sent bombers and drones thousands of miles to attack other nations. “Genocide is the systematic elimination of one community by another. No community has been systematically destroyed in my country and no Sri Lankan Government would stand such brutality. If my government wanted to destroy any one community, why should we have rescued more than 300,000 civilians from the war zone and from the LTTE guns? People who commit genocide don’t save the people they are supposed to be destroying.”
To those saying give Obama more time, what will it take for you to realize he will never be what you wish him to be?

Will he have to graduate from having killed thousands in Af/Pak to hundreds of thousands like Bush in Iraq? Mass murder is mass murder.

Will it be evaluating the complete lack of progress when he runs for re-election in 2012? Or will you then justify voting for him again because he is the lesser of two evils or needs yet more time to bring about "Hope" and "Change?"

Put yourselves out there at little and let us know what it will take. Set a progress point. Hold him to something. Don't be an unthinking cop out who merely calls for more time. It could be as simple as rendition ended by 2010, but set a deadline for something.

For those who think third parties are not viable or are a "wasted" vote, you are buying into the BS the corporate owned Dems/Reps want you to believe. If not you and your vote, then who? Stop being a sheep and send a third party ten bucks today. There are plenty to pick from. Wikipedia lists over a dozen. Apathy is not the answer.

Ralph Nader is a true American hero. He has saved hundreds of thousands of American lives, unlike the war mongers we elect to the presidency. Cynthia McKinney with her trip to Gaza and illegal capture at sea by the Israeli Navy last month is starting to impress. She did not sign their bogus confession and made them back down and release her from their prison. Point being, there are third party candidates worth voting for and supporting. The lesser of two evils must be rejected.

Black mentioned the third parties being banned from presidential debates which is true. It did happen. Not only did that happen, but the Democratic Party banned Kucinich and Gravel from primary debates even though they met the previously announced qualifications to be on the stage. Can't have the sheep hearing truth, now can we?

For those who say they agree with much or most of this post or that some is true, but some not true, you need to be more specific. I cannot read your mind to respond. Tell me what I am wrong about or what you do not agree with. Back up your position.

To those who continue to insist opposition to Obama is racist, to reiterate, yes, there is a racist component to the right wing opposition, but what the media and the administration are not admitting is that many on the left are equally unhappy, but for valid (not racist) reasons.

Obama is at best Bush-lite and in many ways worse than Bush because lots of progressives are willing to bend over and take things from Obama, like an increase in troop presence in Af/Pak, that they would have howled to high heaven about if Bush had tried to get away with it.

We are taught from a young age that this is America the beautiful that can do no wrong and all our evil past acts are deliberately buried. Very few escape that indoctrination and wake up to the true nature of the Empire.

How many innocent children must Obama blow to bloody pieces before you realize he is more of the same?

It not only tastes like cowardly chicken, it tastes of ashes, blood, filthy lucre and the devil's excrement, oil.

Padraig Colman as always shines the light of historical reason on any argument and points out the hypocrisy of our Empire.
"Criticizing Obama does not mean you're a racist" This is true.
I am deeply disappointed in Obama. He won't take on the drug companies. He won't take on the health insurance companies. He won't take on the selfish senior citizens who feel entitled to UNLIMITED taxpayer-funded medical interventions, all the while ranting about the evils of "socialized medicine" and without even bothering to ask which of these interventions are doing them any net good. He won't even revoke the tax subsidy for employer-based health insurance. So what's left of his "health care reform?"

Just this -- forcing millions of uninsured people to hand over thousands of dollars APIECE to the health insurance companies for their worthless services. Anybody doubt that their profit margins will be greater after his "health care reform" is passed?"

His "strategy" seems to consist of conceding defeat before he even begins the battle.
Trust Hahn to succinctly and graphically describe the legalized rape that is the public option. Again, what happened to single payer?

Obama is a fraud.
I agree with you.

I, too, voted for Nader, and for the same reasons.

Rated.
In my opinion the biggest fault of Obama is that he is continuing and even expanding the wars. His plan and actions to send even more troops to Afghanistan is totally wrong.

I hope that Americans can push him to do something for the health care system. I hope that Americans can push him to stop the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

I never believed in the official story about Osama Bin Laden etc behind 9/11. Osama might have been even dead at that time. I think that only Americans themselves could have arranged 9/11.

Maybe it was done by Bush. But I've never seriously believed in that theory. I think that it as done by somebody else, but Bush took the advantage of it.
Rated. The sad, selfish thing is - if he even manages to pass major health care reform, I'll be happy. I just expect all presidents of this country to be war criminals and act in their own best interests when it comes to killing other members of the world.

My hope now is simply this - WHILE you're busy killing off inconvenient populations in other countries, can we please get health care reform passed? Can you at least do something for this country, still, now that you've basically proven that you're not really any different than any other member of the executive branch we've had? I mean, at least FDR ushered in the New Deal.

If Obama even gives us a piece of a New Deal, I'll be happy, because I think the killing is going to continue no matter what. I'd direct you to read Ishmael, by Daniel Quinn. It's not Obama's fault he's a killer, he pretty much has to be unless everything around us radically changes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(novel)

We're takers. And in order for us to keep taking on a planet with limited resources and this many people, some have to die.
I respect your opinions about this, though I honestly believe that assigning the blame for all things bad and unholy to the president is no better than blindly believing he's the messiah. I believe the root cause of the snail's pace of change has been *all* of the democrats trying to look like they are singing kumbaya with everyone else.

I think we should cut the crap and get to it. ("It" being universal health care, an end to every war and a complete overhaul of the educational system - which I believe are the roots of our economic troubles.)

I still have hope because the discussion has begun. But, the hope and change that might come to pass are constantly soured by the mean-spirited glee that people take from pissing in the punchbowl instead of contributing tangible solutions. (Case in point: Bringing a rifle to a health care forum.)

I have always been strongly opposed to the wars we are in now, but somehow I doubt that there would be any fewer dead children if McCain had won. Third parties need to stop blaming the system and start blaming the fact that they tend to pander to single interests and turn off voters by nominating goofballs.

The question remains... what are we going to do about it? For me, this means writing about where the money comes from for these little health care rally shenanigans, opposing the war at every turn and participating in my local government.

(thumbified. kumbaya.)
BBE: Your gleeful assessment of what a fraud Obama is needs lots more examination than I'm capable of providing just now. I respectfully disagree.

I voted for Nader in '04, in hopes of establishing a third party, a hope I no longer hold. But since you mention it, and seem to hold some hope of your own out for Ralph Nader & Cynthia McKinney, allow me to comment on my personal experience of them.

Nader visited the white-bread, liberal college town of New Paltz NY on two occasions in the past two years. On the first, he personally came by to endorse the candidacy of Jason West, the Green Party mayor who made headlines by publicly "marrying" two dozen gay couples back in '04. West was running for re-election. West lost his bid for a second term to a political nobody. Nader's endorsement probably cost him votes.

The second time was shortly before the '08 election. Nader drew a crowd of about 40 people. He acted cranky and spent his time blaming the system for his latest failure as a candidate. He denounced the Green Party along with the others. He acted and sounded like a bitter old man. Everyone else was to blame.

As for McKinney, I've included, at the risk of over-staying my welcome, a straight news story I wrote about her appearance at an MLK memorial conference in '08. I'll leave it to your judgment whether you can detect a person of presidential character in her remarks:

"NEW PALTZ — He's been called everything from a Communist to a saint to a martyr. But it's safe to say Martin Luther King has rarely been called a Red Pill Leader, as he was last night by the controversial and unpredictable former Democratic congresswoman from Georgia Cynthia McKinney.

McKinney, who is the Green Party's candidate for president, was the keynote speaker at a convocation of black and Latino organizations that drew approximately 200 students and adults to the SUNY campus for the annual celebration of King's birthday.

McKinney's description of King referred to the film "The Matrix," in which the hero, Neo, swallows a red pill that allows him to escape the illusory world that gave the film its title.

Most Americans, in King's day as well as our own, McKinney said, have chosen to swallow the equivalent of the film's blue pill, the one that keeps them safe in a cocoon of official lies, distortions and disinformation propagated by the government, corporate America and especially the corporate news media.

Since his death, McKinney said, King's memory has been soft-pedaled and made palatable by these same forces. Lost in the ensuing years is the fact that King was harassed and spied upon by the CIA, vilified in the mainstream media and finally, McKinney said, murdered by a conspiracy hatched in "the bowels of the Pentagon," in cooperation with U.S. military intelligence agencies and the mob.

McKinney urged her audience to "rise up in the spirit of Dr. King" by invoking a conversation between a pair of other characters from a sci-fi classic, TV's "Star Trek." She said the Vulcan Spock warned ship's physician "Bones" McCoy that "Evil seeks to maintain power by suppressing the truth," to which the testy Bones responded by reminding Spock that evil also intentionally misleads the innocent."

I didn't mention in the story that the students who were there were mystified by her presentation and spent most of their time texting and playing games on their electronica.

The Matrix. Star Trek. Cynthia McKinney. My God.
Thank you for the passion and honesty.

I, like Grif, believe in the right to criticize our president, no matter what the color their skin. I don't believe every one who is doing this is a racist, I am being critical of him, although much more critical of the Democratic party, and I am not a racist. I think the far right, with their visceral reaction without any seemingly justifiable reason for their "concerns" are teetering on a nerve of racism, whether conscious or not. They simply can not accept anything but the status quo. That's my $.02.

I won't give up on Obama - he is doing more than I have seen in a long time from the white house to turn the tides. I do think he has been inconsistent, sophmoorish, and otherwise irritating at times.

I am not sure the answer between single payer and public option - thank you for making me revisit this. I am still trying to flush this out and would like to see more constructive dialogue around this.

Blaming Obama, this early on, for the deaths in Paki/Afg for wars he inherited I do believe is far reaching. He has inherrited a HUGE cluter-f**k and it is going to take time to unravel it. Anyone in that position needs support in doing so, not judgment. I do feel strongly about this - we are a nation of ADD and I think we need to come together as best as possible versus dividing more.

Please consider this...you obviously have a strong, leading voice. I think there are a few broad strokes being made here, potentially, and with a few breaths you may see there is some grey.

Passion appreciated, writing is great!
The keystone in bringing down the current Great Wall of governmental resistance to what the people want is: Public financing of elections. Make the legislators immune to the temptations of corporate financing and reform will sweep the land.
Our reasons for disagreeing with Obama couldn't be more different, but rated, rated, a thousand times rated, and bless your kind soul for helping me carry the "Disagreeing with our biracial president does not make one 'racist'" banner.

"Disagreement is racist" is the kind of silly non-argument I don't let my freshmen get away with in formal writing, and it depresses me to hear so much of it from otherwise thoughtful folks in what's supposed to be the public sphere.
I wish I had voted in order for:

a. Ron Paul
b. Dennis Kucinich,or
c. amended the constitution to vote for shrub again.





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DAMN, BBE! And I so wanted to believe in Obama... I really hear you about Nader - he and Chomsky and Zinn are true American heros all people need to learn about. And Cynthia McKinney AND Cindy Sheehan! Great opening photo.

And, thank you for the photos of the beautiful children, there are too few published so Americans can see what they have allowed while they 'go shopping.' Your tag, 'wake up people' is right on.

I am with you, brother!
Have to keep hope alive!!

Rated and not just for the Megan Fox and pit bull photos!! :)
Like I said and will say, Americans were so confounded by the absolute evil of the Bush years, or a reality of true American Interests in the world, that they needed to invent an absolute good to absolve them of their collective guilt. Well, the invention worked for Obama to get elected, but the mask of the Presidency and the role of the Presidency is the reality. American interests and American imagined "political values" are not the same.
I do not believe that criticising Obama is racist, although I do believe that the school speech, Kenyan birth crap certainly has racist overtones. Criticising Obama for being a continuation of Bush is not racist... and at this point it happens to be true. I hope that changes.
I agree with most of what you say. And I admire your righteous indignation.

The question is: How can we get our power back? It will require legislation - addressing campaign financing, among other things; legal rulings - addressing civil rights violations - the legality of invading our privacy, for one; and executive cojones, which seem to be in short supply.

And WTC, 9/11 -- those terrorists were from Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Lebanon or Egypt. Not from the hard rock mountains of Afghanistan.
Actually I disagree with one of your commentators. Mc Cain might actually have been forced to stop the war since it was Republican war. If Pres Obama does ANY thing diff he is seen as weak and if by chance there really was an attack on home soil (which is always a possibility) people would go berserk. I ask all to turn to those countries who have been attacked int he past several years and please tell me which of them have reacted the blind way we have?I dont think they look weak. I think they look real savvy. They look matured which having been countries for longer time than the USA they prove. They are not busy wasting money and human resources on stuff that policemen and border guards should be doing inside the country. After all in the end all one can control is the SELF.
Almost all meddling colonizations and spreading of religion and political system has resulted in the decimation of the original people of the world. Even if one were to choose a time frame that one wishes to start their history books from the world has to at some point agree that it is better to negotiate with the brain than with machines and guns. Even though there are lesser wars than the past the advent of mass killing weapons outweighs that goodness.

The only changes that any party can push through effectively (other than war decisions) seems to be the ones from the "other" party. According to me Health Care Reform is a Rep issue so I am still hoping .....
AND btw most people here do NOT know the Afghan character. They have NEVER given up. They dont even know how to. Their "iman" is way bigger than anything I mean ANYTHING money can buy. This is of course the common man I speak of not the politicians who are the same all around the world.

See we have stories about the Afghans which no one seems to have read here. They choose to die before giving up. There MUST be something to the people who have never been conquered not even by Alexander...something that the West cannot fathom. Carpet bombing has already razed their land to the ground and yet they rise and fight in their mountains which we can never know and we can never get used to. What a situation! When one country attacked another because there was one man hiding there or had taken refuge there. What does one man matter when he represents an ideology? The ideology is spreading and has spread and instead of grappling with issues that might soften the radical ideology we attacked a land that is already laid low.
The hawks around are always circling......they are bound by their nature....what a dilemma!
I went on a tirade about Obama yesterday for his deception and then escalation of war against innocents. It's good to be reminded that there's other people out there who feel strongly about stopping the pointless bloodshed.

Those are extreme images, but that's the reality Obama supporters need to come to terms with. While the silly debates over the significance of Obama's race continue to distract us, his hands are covered in blood just as Bush's were.

There can be no excuse for what is being done to those people in the name of "freedom and democracy".

If we want to see a change in America, maybe people should campaign to lower the voting age to 10. Most children these days seem to have not only a better grasp of how the world should be, but are about as literate and knowledgeable as the average American adult, anyway.
I know You would NEVER, BBE, but my motto is:

NEVER quit -- NEVER give up





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All too true. It might have been better if McCain had won, politically. He would have continued Bush policies and people might have learned something. Now we have Dems and Obama discrediting the left. I predict swing to the right even tho it makes no sense.
But who can we vote for? I am afraid we will end up with mob rule. Nadar and Kucinich are good, but seem to get no support.
Amazing to see some Obama supporters twist the facts to make him the good guy always. One is saying he has a super secret plan he is saving to spring on everyone.
We are asked to support any health reform but I think everyone should denounce congress and the president in every way until they shape up.
The Atlantic magazine jan/feb 2009 has some good relevant articles especially one about Schumer.
Junior was given 8 years (the first 4 by the Supreme Court) to screw things up and allow his staff to manufacture lies.

Don't you think Obama should be given the same consideration?

Where were you when it was obvious that the lies about WMD in Iraq weren't even paper-thin secure?

Damn. I started seeing this crap one month after Obama was sworn into office. Like how the bailout of automakers was supposedly his baby, or the bailout of the banks (with no strings attached) was his baby.

Granted, one does, in the Office of the President, assume ownership of a certain amount of inertia, but really, the POTUS is one of 3 Constitutionally equal branches of government.

Obstructionism by the legislative branch does not equal the POTUS failing, or equal the POTUS causing death. That's a continuation of policies that began under BUSH. And it will take some time to rectify them.

Closing Guantanamo by 2010? Not gonna happen.
No new taxes? Not gonna happen.
Responsibility among the financial titans who blew everything up for normal people? Not gonna happen.

Ask your congessman where he or she gets campaign funding. There you will find the reasons for failure.

Not in the current POTUS. He threatens too much entrenched corruption.
Given the kind of country and world power the USA is, Obama is just conforming to the job description. Noam Chomsky could be POTUS, and he'd still have to make 98% of the same decisions that Obama has made. Why do you think they call it the system?

Until such time as the USA changes (or is forced to change) its world priorities, we are only talking one inch of difference for any President. I would contend, however, that that one inch is important. That is why I like Obama and not Bush.
"Call me RACIST, I dare you. Call me a HATER, I double dare you."

Nah. I actually agree with most of WHAT you said in your post.

P.S. Hope you don't mind if I call you an ASSHOLE for HOW you said it, though, K?
thx for the pretty women, anyway.

i suggested a plan to change things in one of my posts, and there are a few others on the web. none offer instant success. americans aren't interested in solutions that might succeed in a generation or two, the evils of fast food have infected the political process. so things will continue as they have been.

literacy has not proven to lift the level of political discussion, a nation that can read prefers not to. it wasn't always so: american women struggled for 3 generations to get parity with men in political status. too bad it was at the 'serf' level.
@blue roses
You got it right, brother (sister?). Our military is now the private army of the oil companies.
When I said there was a backlash coming from disillusioned Obama supporters you all laughed at me. Who is laughing now?
those pictures made me cry. i dont know how anyone sees them and keeps defending the democrats. it freaks me out, that people cant think for themselves anymore. bc you dont need to think too hard to know there is no difference anymore. not to you and me. and not to the dead children.
Not sure when people will get it that Republicans and Democrats are different sides of the same coin: career politicians that are all about money and power and in league with the money and power of big business. These politicians are neatly packaged like any product and mass marketed to a programmed, sedated and suppressed public that is paying dearly...we will be weakened into total submission soon. Divide and conquer is the rule of the day so as we, poor and little people are pitted against each other over petty and superficial differences, these rich and powerful politicians will have their way, above us all...I'm thinking pre-French Revolution times are now and happening...not a tea party...and you are right, we need to wake up but it may be too late...
You’re a RACIST and a HATER.

Just kidding

We should not be surprised at our continued aggression in Afghanistan as the plan was made clear prior to the election. Obama, like the leaders before him, now has the blood of innocents on his hands. The US is continuing their policy of aggression and domination. Although some of the characters have changed, it appears we are still following the same playbook.

I am wise enough to know that racism is real, but not naïve enough to believe that it is the root cause of all opposition to Obama. The sad thing is that the race card has only served to obscure the real issues.
You are completely novice in politics,There are so many strong lobbies, which are working in Washington. Arms manufacturers lobby is very strong, they are so ruthless culprit,they can do anything for their selfishness.Than there are strong group of Pate gong, CIA lobby for their self interest they donot want to stop the war against Afghanistan and Iraq.Oil lobby is very strong their interest are also in that area.
President Obama has very little power he is fully depend on his party who are slave of these lobbies. So do not blame only to Obama, your whole system is nasty, change that system first. I know it is very very difficult to change this system because they have money and mas cal power and no one challenge to them.
Safe_Bet said it best, I can't improve on that comment. Rated
Not only is The Democratic Party a moral laughingstock--after all its posturing about transparency, reform, trustworthy politicians, etc.--The New Left needs an enema. That's what comes of being the victim of a leveraged buyout by the likes of George Soros. If there is a soul, we have sold it.
Ramesh has a point.
If you are rich this is "the land of the free and the home of the brave".
If not, welcome to a life as a wage slave and don't offend the boss in any way. If there is a union at your place of employment there is a much better chance that you will receive a living wage. If you live in a red state chances are there will be no union because Repugnicans hate unions.
Free Market is a myth - the game has been rigged in favor of the rich from the very beginning. What do you expect if the rich have the congress bought and paid for.
There is no such thing as a free lunch - unless you are wealthy. See above.
Wars make money for the rich. Here's how it works: It starts with THE BIG LIE. Our young people are urged to join up and serve their country. When they come home in a coffin there it is time for the next BIG LIE. "They made the ultimate sacrifice in service for their country". The truth is they were Lied to and their lives were stolen from them. I wanna scream when they show pictures of the dead servicemen. They are VICTIMS of the Bush gang's war.
We are a nation of laws if you are not rich. Why aren't Bush, Cheney,Rumsfeld et alii in Pelican Bay where they belong?
So you see what Obama is up against and presumably he would like to survive the office... I was worried about that as soon as he started his run for the presidency.
I'm 68 yrs. old and have long since given up the idea that anyone could fix up this mess - I'd settle for some progress at least. Of course, McSame would have been an utter disaster.
OUCH! The picture of the dead children, broke my heart. War sucks..........but it will never go away. BBE nice blog here, you caught my attention for sure. Democrats and Republicans, same shit different piles.
Does it really give you much satisfaction to say, "I told you so?" It must be just a little bit disappointing to you on some level that things have not changed.

I've been reading that third party and independent candidates are being looked to more because of people's disillusionment with the Dems and the Repubs. I sure hope that's true. We need third party candidates.
I'm still supporting Obama. I hate what's happening but I'm willing to give him more time to resolve these complex issues. The office of the presidency isn't a crown. He has to work with congress within the law and the constitution. He can't say NO WAR, SINGLE PAYER and it happens. I wish it could, I'll bet he wishes it could but that's not how it is.
those pictures made me cry. i dont know how anyone sees them and keeps defending the democrats. it freaks me out, that people cant think for themselves anymore. bc you dont need to think too hard to know there is no difference anymore. not to you and me. and not to the dead children.
jane smithie redux
October 02, 2009 08:13 AM
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Are you kidding us?!? Who had congressional majorities for 12 years? It wasn't the Dems. And I didn't see a whole lot of weeping by Repubs while they were in power.

As a matter of fact, I believe one of the major 'debates' was what constitutes torture. Another one was over denying funding to family planning in other countries because it might include (gasp) abortion.

Welcome to the 20th century. Neanderthals may be facing a second extinction. Rush can lead the way into the volcano of the 'End Times'.
If you make logical policy arguments against Obama - not racist. If you carry a sign with a picture of Obama as a witch doctor, spread lies about him being born in Kenya or call him "boy" - racist.

I support him so far. I don't think it was ever reasonable to believe that electing a non-Repub would turn us into a pacifist nation. The wars we're in are not acceptable to me, but I think there's more of a chance to get out of them with Obama than with McCain. At least Obama's considering whether to send more troops to Afghanistan - with McCain, they'd have been there since Jan. You can't judge a whole Presidency in 8 mos, no matter how much hope you had for instant change going in.
I agree with grif, shiral, kate bishop. robert pratt. ramesh. nofrillsmonkey, and blue. I think it's childish to think that with natural inertia, the power of the corporations, banks, pharma, and other big biz connected to the military that any president could do much more than Obama has done so far in Eight Short Months. He is not much different than how he presented himself in the election. I cannot understand why so many people are pissed off. If you vote for a candidate than will not get elected you may have someone worse than Bush or Cheney. I cannot believe that people think that McSame would be better than Obama. President Obama is getting more moving than any president has in a long time. Lets remember that he inherited an depression, Two wars, and a military industrial complex more organized and more powerful (due to the conflicts and connections for the previous president) military industrial complex than any president in history. Getting out of a war is far more difficult than getting into one. If we pull out too fast the ensuing chaos will be more damaging in the short and long run. There is probably a limit to how much damage can be prevented at this point. The war could not have been conducted worse if they had tried under Bush.

Nader is a megalomaniac. Most third party folks are naive and incapable of changing things from the inside. Change will only happen from the inside unless you want blood in the streets. That sounds like the far right. The world is not set up for instant gratification. This sht takes time. To say otherwise sounds like those crazy rightist who are freaking that the sky is falling.

It's an ugly world and there is a real limit to how much can be changed and how quickly it can be changed. One of the main reasons that these hostile third world countries are having the success they are is that they don't even think in terms of winning a war in a decade, or sometimes even a generation. We need to think that way about rebuilding parts of the world that we have harmed. Think Japan post WWII. Yes, there were some of the worst atrocities committed from both sides, but the US went in and helped rebuild Japan with food and materials aid. The same needs to be tried with Afghanistan. Ultimately it will need to be done by the people themselves, but they have to buy into a culture of building and not warring.
way to go! I thought no one else was seeing it!
He was always smarmy and conceited to me. Even before the primaries. I think he was supported by the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies to take the nomination away from Hillary, who people knew was for universal healthcare (and the end of game for insurance companies). They will compromise and maybe have a healthcare reform that is much less than what the American People need, and they will defend the interests of those f#$% *! companies. But at this point, I do think nothing will happen at all and the voters will punish the democrats for doing nothing and they will loose the majority in the congress and senate. When the Republicans were majority, they just roll over the democrats and did whatever they wanted because they could. They were majority. Now the democrats are full of pudor and moral restrains to do the same, and actually act in the name of the people that elected them. That's why they will loose. Because the conservatives who they are trying to placate, didn't vote for them and will not vote for them anyway, and the liberals will be upset and vote for someone else.
Congratulations, you’re a great prognosticator. If you thought that President Obama (or anyone for that matter) could just walk into the Oval Office and simply snap his finger and everything would be suddenly “righted”, then you’re not a realist. It’s only been eight months, and he can’t CHANGE everything by himself. Where is his party to help him? Your criticism is sorely misplaced. You should blame Max Baucus, Evan Bayh, Kent Conrad, Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln, Bill Nelson, etc. These democratic senators are the problem, not President Obama. And by the way, your hero, Ralph Nader is the reason Al Gore lost in 2000.
To the basic premise: of course, one can criticize the actions taken and not taken by Obama, or Coleman Young, or Bill Bradley, or Douglas Wilder, or David Patterson, and not have a single racist intent or veiled message. As for the rest, I think for the most part you're sacrifing messy reality on the alter of ideological purity, BBE.

With regard to all the things people expected Obama to do that have not been done, there is one thing you gloss over and another you give insufficient weight to. First, the famous words of the Obama campaign ("Yes, we can!"), even in their basic grammar, presuppose a large grassroots constituency driving the action. Once the election was over though, so was the activism of the statistical totality of Obama voters, content to leave everything to the messiah -- and in the vacuum created the lobbyists for moneyed interests walzted right in. Second, Obama always insisted that he was a gradualist; and while that is in some ways in keeping with the grass roots approach to things, in moments of major crisis gradualism is exactly wrong. Yet back to his days as a law school professor, community organizer, and even in the Illinois legislature, Obama was always a consensus-seeking gradualist. His temperment is to seek the slow evolution of policy, never mind "the fierce urgency of the the now."

On Afghanistan, you're absolutely correct about the moral cost and legal wrong of using predator drones the way they've been used in Afghanistan and increasingly in Pakistan. But, I would argue, you are dead wrong on the general policy question. Getting into Afghanistan was a large mistake, and leaving things where they are now and walking away makes things far worse than they were in 2001. Then, the Taliban provided safe haven for Osama bin Laden, but also generally had a thuggish grip deep into the countryside. Now, the government in Kabul is barely tolerated in that city and toothless beyond it, and large areas of the country are not only lawless but firmly in the hands of radicalized Taliban has a more global perspective than the 2001 government had.

The forces that assassinated Bhutto in Pakistan are the same radicalized tribal elements the U.S. and coalition forces have been working unsuccessfully to quell for eight years. And they are potentially very serious players in the FATA of Pakistan and beyond. Since the failed attempt of the government to impose its order on the pro-Taliban forces in the FATA, the reach and influence of those forces has grown at the expense of the secular government's. And let us forget neither that Pakistan is a nuclear weapon state and the stand of the Islamist radicals with regard to Kashmir -- which if followed would plunge nuclear-armed Pakistan into war with nuclear-armed India.

Without the large numbers of troops McChrystal is asking for, the Taliban and allied Pashtun forces will militarily defeat the U.S. -- which would be very bad, because it would embolden every plotter who thinks the U.S. can be taken, and one of them will be able to pull off something that makes the death toll on September 11th, 2001, look small by comparison.

But the purpose of more troops, as realy anyone who has a working knowledge of anti-insurgent strategy can grasp, is to control an area long enough to establish the type of physical, social, and economic infrastructure necessary to allow local populations the ability to choose whether or not to accede to requests or demands from Taliban or Taliban-allied fighters. In fact, the presence of such forces mitigate against the "need" to use predator drones against population centers.

For what it's worth. Obama knows just about nothing about military power and its use in various theaters and situations, so perforce has had to rely on established practice. That is neither an attempt to excuse or justify the moral and legal wrongs such policies entail. And it sure doesn't help that one of Obama's most trusted voices in foreign affairs is Joe Biden who, his years on the Foreign Relations Committe notwithstanding, still thinks a tripartite partition of Afghanistan is a good idea (which is sheer lunacy both from a simple strategic standpoint -- the Turks would never stand for it -- and because in 1991 Osama bin Laden predicted that the US would invade Iraq and establish a tripartite partition exactly along the lines Biden has proposed).

The majority of the comments in this thread premised on the ideological purity and rah-rahism that so disfigures both the left and the right. Ideological purity, the facts bedamned.
To the basic premise: of course, one can criticize the actions taken and not taken by Obama, or Coleman Young, or Bill Bradley, or Douglas Wilder, or David Patterson, and not have a single racist intent or veiled message. As for the rest, I think for the most part you're sacrifing messy reality on the alter of ideological purity, BBE.

With regard to all the things people expected Obama to do that have not been done, there is one thing you gloss over and another you give insufficient weight to. First, the famous words of the Obama campaign ("Yes, we can!"), even in their basic grammar, presuppose a large grassroots constituency driving the action. Once the election was over though, so was the activism of the statistical totality of Obama voters, content to leave everything to the messiah -- and in the vacuum created the lobbyists for moneyed interests walzted right in. Second, Obama always insisted that he was a gradualist; and while that is in some ways in keeping with the grass roots approach to things, in moments of major crisis gradualism is exactly wrong. Yet back to his days as a law school professor, community organizer, and even in the Illinois legislature, Obama was always a consensus-seeking gradualist. His temperment is to seek the slow evolution of policy, never mind "the fierce urgency of the the now."

On Afghanistan, you're absolutely correct about the moral cost and legal wrong of using predator drones the way they've been used in Afghanistan and increasingly in Pakistan. But, I would argue, you are dead wrong on the general policy question. Getting into Afghanistan was a large mistake, and leaving things where they are now and walking away makes things far worse than they were in 2001. Then, the Taliban provided safe haven for Osama bin Laden, but also generally had a thuggish grip deep into the countryside. Now, the government in Kabul is barely tolerated in that city and toothless beyond it, and large areas of the country are not only lawless but firmly in the hands of radicalized Taliban has a more global perspective than the 2001 government had.

The forces that assassinated Bhutto in Pakistan are the same radicalized tribal elements the U.S. and coalition forces have been working unsuccessfully to quell for eight years. And they are potentially very serious players in the FATA of Pakistan and beyond. Since the failed attempt of the government to impose its order on the pro-Taliban forces in the FATA, the reach and influence of those forces has grown at the expense of the secular government's. And let us forget neither that Pakistan is a nuclear weapon state and the stand of the Islamist radicals with regard to Kashmir -- which if followed would plunge nuclear-armed Pakistan into war with nuclear-armed India.

Without the large numbers of troops McChrystal is asking for, the Taliban and allied Pashtun forces will militarily defeat the U.S. -- which would be very bad, because it would embolden every plotter who thinks the U.S. can be taken, and one of them will be able to pull off something that makes the death toll on September 11th, 2001, look small by comparison.

But the purpose of more troops, as realy anyone who has a working knowledge of anti-insurgent strategy can grasp, is to control an area long enough to establish the type of physical, social, and economic infrastructure necessary to allow local populations the ability to choose whether or not to accede to requests or demands from Taliban or Taliban-allied fighters. In fact, the presence of such forces mitigate against the "need" to use predator drones against population centers.

For what it's worth. Obama knows just about nothing about military power and its use in various theaters and situations, so perforce has had to rely on established practice. That is neither an attempt to excuse or justify the moral and legal wrongs such policies entail. And it sure doesn't help that one of Obama's most trusted voices in foreign affairs is Joe Biden who, his years on the Foreign Relations Committe notwithstanding, still thinks a tripartite partition of Afghanistan is a good idea (which is sheer lunacy both from a simple strategic standpoint -- the Turks would never stand for it -- and because in 1991 Osama bin Laden predicted that the US would invade Iraq and establish a tripartite partition exactly along the lines Biden has proposed).

The majority of the comments in this thread premised on the ideological purity and rah-rahism that so disfigures both the left and the right. Ideological purity, the facts bedamned.
Apologies to BBE and all for the double comment. Dunno how the hell that happened. Can someone in editorland fix it?
Wow, what can I say? You said it brilliantly.
To those who say doing right is not practical: Let's blow up your family and then talk. Let's put your children in the street and then talk. It's always a different tune when yours is the ox being gored. Hypocrites.

And what power does Obama have? The same power any man can have: the power of the truth. And access to the greatest bully pulpit in the world. But since truth "offends" and he wants to "unite" he fails as both a President and as a person. Gandhi had nothing but his words and overthrew an empire. Obama has an empire but has no words.
What Obama's presidency proves, OBVIOUSLY, is that corporations rule the world and American presidents either do what they're told as did Nixon, Reagan, the Bushs, or take the blame for whatever evil corporations are up to...you know...blood for oil, Big Pharma forcing vaccines on the population whether needed or not, Big Oil and Big Ag making environmental policy, the military-corporate complex making decisions on war and foreign policy, etc.....business as usual!

And how fortuante for corporations that Americans will always unthinkingly blame their basically powerless presidents, especially the Democratic ones, and since the Republicans control the media, anyway, public opinion is easily manipulated. I refer readers yet again to my earlier series of posts on the most controlled population in the world: Americans, who are stupid enough to believe the "freedom, democracy, justice" crap no matter the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. And hey...stupidity deserves what it gets!!
Obama is a dud. His "Cult of Personality" is failing....the blinders are off...he is what he always was...a fraud.
"since the Republicans control the media," Soapbox Amy....you're kidding?
Although I do not agree with everything in here, a lot of it is pretty on target. Rated Post, just don't tell Uncle Sam.
Although I do not agree with everything in here, a lot of it is pretty on target. Rated Post, just don't tell Uncle Sam.
My apologies for the double post, apparently my computer really is a POS
Wow, I'm really taken aback by all this anger at Obama! As some have pointed out here, he's been in office for just eight months and has done more during that time than all of Bush's eight years put together.

Sometimes I marvel at how he stands up to all the vitriol, hatred, unrealistic expectations, racism, right-wing fanaticism, left-wing fanaticism, lies about him and those freakin' Blue Dog Dems.

From my POV, the guy is made of tungsten steel. Can we please give him a CHANCE? It's a gross error to lump him in with the greedy corporate profiteers that came before. To say that is just as dangerous as claiming he was born in Kenya. C'mon folks...some nuance, please.

Sheesh.
Sweet Goddess, those photos in the post are horrific!

That aside, RATED, all the freaking way!
'tis the sad yet unavoidable truth. thumbed wearily. And no, Nader is not the solution.
already rated - adding another comment to boost it into the feed!

BBE, you speak the truth. People need to WAKE UP. PBS's Frontline has a rough cut of their next special, "Obama's War" up on their website. There will be NO winners in Af/Pak. EVER.
I have to reluctantly agree with some of your post. They say the internet has no tone so it is hard to figure out exactly what people mean. I think Obama is doing a good job with what he has to work with. I applaud you for your viewpoint because you state it without racism. That is the tone I hear. I can't rate this because my head would explode. Give the man a chance.
To get to the bottom line, Obama is still better than the Republicans and he's doing pretty much what he said he'd do. Obama said he would increase the U. S. commitment to Afghanistan and he has. Obama said he would adopt some relatively moderate health care reform and that's what he's going to do. He's backtracked on a lot of national security stuff, but it's no surprise that he's listening to the national security apparatus. He gave every indication that he would listen to "the other side" in Audacity of Hope. Obama's president of the United States. That pretty much makes him a war criminal by definition and the stuff that's happening in Pakistan is disgusting. But the U. S. is far from being the danger to world stability that it was under George Bush.
Did not even read it. The title and pictures speak for themselves.......Rated!
Anyone, you included, who thinks ANYONE in the office of president can fix what was going wrong in this country in a matter of months is insane.

Nader and the Greens are insane, too. I love him, but the GP platform includes a reverse income tax, which is just retarded.
Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and a host of others pegged this gem long ago, why the hell not push it... Ignorance of who's running the show is scary, Moore's new movie might knock a little sense into some heads... Capitalist own everything, six corps own the media (fact), the wealthy 1% controls all, pay little in taxes, and get "We the Peoples" bailout cash... So why the surprise? Little has changed through politics... Many of us take the time to read, dutifully studying history, and science... Nothing new here mon, great rant! RRR
Thanks for the update! I don't think ALL the criticism of Obama is racist, but SOME people go there. You, on the other hand, make some very valid points and I agree with them all. I also took a lot of heat as an African-American journalist for not supporting Obama and identifying him as the narcissist I believe him to be. His hubris since he's been in the office and lack of leadership have shown that he is no more qualified for the job than was George Bush, despite having more intelligence, education, and oratorical skills.
If I could somehow combine nantehay, kind of blue, shiral and alcibiades today, into one post...it might go a long way in summing up my feelings about this post. It pisses me off and confuses me...and then I try to rationally respond and can't. But they did. Thanks.
So what can be done about limiting the influence of Big Business and the greed brigade on our government. I can get behind the idea of a 3rd party, but do you think the leaders of it would be immune to the idea of selling themselves to the highest bidder? I'm serious, what ideas are out there for solving this conundrum? Meaningful campaign finance reform seems like the first step in that direction. Can local statutes be passed that would have a national effect? What can we do about this?
"Despite his party having overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress, Obama has not ended the wars, has not repealed the Patriot Act, has not repealed FISA, has not stopped rendition or torture, has not closed GITMO, has not closed Bagram, has not closed the third country black program prisons, and I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON."

Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
71 ratings without an Editor's Pick. That must be a record.
I never thought that Obama would change much. I think that the United States of America is not controlled by presidents. It is not controlled by its citizens either.

It is controlled by big money making corporations nowadays. Both dems and rebs, even most of your small parties are controlled by the same corporations.

That system is killing people all over the world. The rest of the world is getting enough of it.

But you can still change it. I'm with Dennis Loo. You need to build new movements of people to change it.
Glad you haven't lost your integrity or your fight.

I voted for Obama and think that he has been mostly talk and noise. I criticize him a lot. I think he was the best of the viable options. Throwing your vote away on Nader was........ Well, a waste.

But I support about 99% of what you said.

Keep up the good fight.

Monte
I guess I must agree with The Wright Sight and Alcibiades. This is a profoundly immature post, even if heartfelt and even if I agree with half of it.

Ours is a very complex world, the US is the most complex "empire" the world has ever seen. To posit that Nader or heaven forbid Chomsky have any real skills at leadership or even intellectual integrity puts the poster and supportive commentors in the shallow end of the pool.

8 months. What in the wide world of sports did you expect to be accomplished in 8 months? I completely sympathize with the frustration; I too hope for a stealth progressive who can overcome congressional timidity, the 60 year old military-industrial stranglehold, the superstitious American public, the debasing of reason and critical thinking, the entrenched interests of Big Pharma/Insurance, the K street pirates, etc etc etc. Sure. 8 months. Why didn't he beat back all these guys by now? Uh-huh.

Trim tab, people. Large tankers and cruise ships would snap their rudders in minutes if they tried to steer with their rudders. They shift the trim tab first, get a new tendency going, THEN engage the rudder.

I love the passion for progressive causes. I share it. But to pair outrage here with a pretense, a veneer, of sober analysis and critical parsing cheapens the reasoning and makes childish the outrage. Waving our hands angrily at these colossal problems doesn't work, blaming one person for failing to solve them in 8 months is inane, and loading up pictures of dead children is a cheap gesture.

And all the nasty invective? Low rent. Our teachers were right, way back when: vitriol and foul are the sign of poor thinking and too many shortcuts.
I think it will take existing Dems and Republicans, who have already proven to be successful money raisers, to create a viable third party.
We are in need of one, but a vote for Nadar was a vote for McCain and/or a vote for Obama. You may have kept your personal integrity intact, but in the end the colors faded in the wash. I voted for the Green Party candidate in the 2006 elections. We ended up having a run-off between the R and D.
You can name specific reasons, many of which I agree with especially the Patriot Act and the wars, you are unhappy with Obama, good for you. However, your specifics don't mean racism isn't some people's main issue with him. You should have left that part out because it seems as if you are denying it all together and it diluted your excellent points...especially about education and aid being what we should spend our money on overseas.
The President just won the Nobel........ This IS news. Maybe now he will actually stop the war in Afghanistan. How can you win the Peace prize and continue to war????
Hope tastes minty.

Change is kind of flavorless, like grits; it's all about what you put on it.
I'll keep my guns, money, and freedom. You can keep the 'change'.
Had you avoided the F-word I would have forwarded the link to many people. Using polished language would have added value to the post, not diminished anything.

Here is a thought: We need a VALUE SYSTEM in order to act in a consistent manner. Right now all we have on both sides of the House is ISSUE-based politics. We react to "issues" and have no reference value system to guide us.
You aren't racist... just a ideologue as zealous as any religious fundamentalist. We live in a democracy which means that sometimes we don't get everything we want and have to compromise most of the time. Our President isn't the second coming. He is human with all that entails. I don't agree with everything but he is definitely better than the other alternatives -- McCain and Nader (whose values I agree with but there is something missing).
Angela T.. Like a Religious Zealot! YES! That was what I was going for. Has anyone read Nader's new book of fiction about how the super rich will go to an island and plan on saving the world? It's 700 page lefty "Atlas Shrugged." And we sure as hell don't need a bad-writing, weak-thinking, ideologically -dogmatic screed to act as a bookend for that nasty piece of crap.
Valid and important commentary and criticism- I wish we were more on the track you promote. But, you fall into the BS trap again with the idea that RepuKeKKans and Dumocrats are "the same". Yeah, Al Gore tries to save the planet while Bush destroys it for the End Times ... the same? Hah! You 1 percenters actually manage to become the problem. Viva democracy.

Don't "You Lie!"
Thank you for your comments. I am aghast to see many Democrats turn into the Obama version of the BushBots: ObamaBots. They use the same tactics and words/phrases that the Freepers do and, like the BushBots, apply one standard to presidents of their own party and another to presidents of the other party. Hater, Why do you hate America?: these are freeper comments, and if the ObamaBots can't do any better than that, then they should just post at the FreeRepublic website where they will be amongs their own kind.
I'm not sure that McCain was not a better choice. The lesser of two evils is still evil. Obama ran on "middle class". It looks as if that help has hit every class except the middle.
Corporations run the world, not presidents or prime ministers, and for their own benefit and profit. Unfortunately, Obama is beginning to appear either incredibly naive, or he's just another corporate puppet, although not as cooperative a puppet as the Bushs and Reagan. This nation and all that it supposedly stands for is becoming a sick, sad, hypocritical joke!!
criticizing obama on policy is not racist. hating obama for being black is racist. and there are plenty of fuckheads out there doing that. obama never promised to get us out of afghanistan. he made several statements arguing that afghanistan was the "right" war. i want us out of there asap, but there are some important national security issues to consider. as for healthcare, it's been a slow maddening process, but i have faith that in the end we'll get a public option and some very valuable reform. it won't go nearly as far as i'd like it to, but it will be a damned sight better than anything the filthy rethugs have done.
i dont understand those people who think nader cost gore the vote. gore cost himself the vote. and it is that logic - "a third party vote is a wasted vote"

that continues to make sure we have a one party system. since obviously there is no difference between dems and repubs, except the repubs tell the truth - they dont give a shit about the less fortunate. the dems lie and pretend they do.

in other words, at this point in time, the republicans have more integrity than the democrats.

goddamn. who would ever have thought it could come to this?
Like lots of your comment-ers, I agree with a lot of what you said. And, I appreciate your shaking me out of my complacency. That said, I'm still glad Obama is where he is, for lots of reasons: it lessens my despair that we'll ever overcome racism; I think he IS making changes, albeit not as much or as soon as I'd like; he's capable of synthesizing many differing opinions and functioning in the real world (Ralph Nader, however lofty he may be, would never have been able to navigate Capitol Hill and get even this far); and he knows how to pronounce "nuclear". That alone has decreased my political angst. Oh, and he is trying to replace bullying with diplomacy, i.e. talking to Iran without preconditions. I share your outrage, on one level; on another, I realize Obama is dealing with a deeply entrenched corporatocracy, and is feeling his way through this presidency thing. I believe he's a highly-principled man. You're entitled to disagree, but I think you're wrong.

There's no way in hell we could have gotten a single-payer system through - we have 60 Democrats, but Big Health has billions of dollars with which to bribe those that can be bought. I think Obama's working on getting the public option through in the next phase (committee), and I think, indequate though it may be, this will be a remarkable achievement.
Regarding the opinion that there's no difference between parties: imagine if Al Gore had won in 2000. We wouldn't have been in Iraq at all, in my opinion. Environmental protections would have been strengthened, not repealed. Anti-American sentiment would not have exploded due to bullying by a stupid cowboy. Granted, there's not enough difference between parties, but it's naive to say that there's none.
BUT, again, thanks for this post. It makes a lot of good points, and pokes us in our complacency. AHC
I agree with your view on voting for someone other than a Dem or Repub., and I agree with you about Ralph Nader. I have voted for him before. He is a true rebel and fighter.

Maybe we should have a board type system... where there is an elected board running the country... made up of people who are actually elected but not by the electoral system... by actual vote. And corporate and lobbyist contributions should be outlawed. Those running for the board positions should have to raise their own money and shouldn't be able to accept money from companies and lobbyists. It should be raised through individual contributions and fundraising events. And the Dems and Repubs need to give up their control of the whole damn thing.

This country is way too big and complex for a single person to be calling the shots. And people bitch about other countries that are communistic? What the hell do we have here... 2 political parties controlling everything... along with huge corporations and lobbyists? Is having a monopoly any different than communism or a dictatorship?
I agree with you mostly, but you still seem to believe that the situation can be changed within the present context, if only people "wake up" or get mad or something. But this isn't so because you're not telling people anything they don't know. People DO know these things, on some level; the problem rather is why even though they DO know about it, they still do nothing. And this is as true for hypocrisy or corporate corruption as it is for the rape, murder, torture, mutilation of children. It is not so radical to believe that if only enough people get angry, something will snap, and then everything will change. On the contrary, power would be indifferent to such an event, and would brush it aside. This is done on a regular basis all over the world. The very fact of it coming from people in rich countries would make no difference. Atrocity would continue, only now it would have the weight of true popular decree: a living nightmare. What we need to do is to replace the terms of power with those of apocalypse, of catastrophe. People need to conceive of the world as an accident, as something purely meaningless, and therefore something that can be remade in any way. In this sense, anything would be permissable--atrocities, war, etc. But this also includes revolution, radical alterity, direct democracy, and so forth. This is precisely the attitude of power, and this is the point of view people must take for themselves before they commit acts of such overwhelming transformation that the effect would be sufficient enough to make such atrocities as you mention rare or even extinct. At any rate, they would become both more palatable, and less common, because they would no longer hold the fascination and terror that they do today. As you can see, radicality is truly terrifying, and if it is not, if it is not more terrifying even than power, it will lose, and become just one more victim by the side of the road.
As a 'Non-American' residing in the U.S., your post strikes a chord with me. I think that until these global and internal issues really start affecting Americans personally, then change, irrespective of whoever the President is, will take considerable time. I think it's very difficult to get 'some' Americans to see that there are wider consequences and ways of approaching issues, beyond their own backyard. There are also too many industrial complexes tied so intricately into the differing levels of government-the U.S. military and the health sector are two of several more obvious ones.

I applaud your entry for saying what you think, and illustrating your points from several sources. Food for thought.
Rated.
Walk a mile in his shoes, pal.
I understand your outrage but does anything ever really change when soft money and the military industral security apparatus calls the shots? Unfortunately, Obama is proving himself unable to institute change and I wonder if he ever wanted to. Still, he's better than Bush just because he pisses so many of my Republican friends off so much.
Israeli forces storm into holiest place on earth:

http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/10/israeli-police-storm-jerusalems-holiest.html

Also, here's my post on Obama:

http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize-hell_10.html

I list plenty of additional reasons to be upset/disappointed/pissed off with Obama.
I post this joke in honor of the fact that CIT Group, after receiving 2.3 billion in bailout money, filed for bankruptcy today. Huzzah. We ain't seen nothin' yet, folks.

John was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called 'pullets,' and ten roosters to fertilize the eggs. He kept records, and any rooster not performing went into the soup pot and was replaced.

This took a lot of time so he bought some tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone, he could tell from a distance which rooster was performing. Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report just by listening to the bells. John's favorite rooster, old Butch, was a very fine specimen but this morning he noticed old Butch's bell hadn't rung at all!

When he went to investigate, he saw the other roosters were busy chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing, but the pullets, hearing the roosters coming, could run for cover. To John's amazement, old Butch had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring. He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job, and walk on to the next one.
John was so proud of old Butch he entered him in the Renfrew County Fair where he became an overnight sensation among the judges. The result was the judges not only awarded old Butch the No Bell Piece Prize but they also awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well.

Clearly old Butch was a politician in the making. Who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them when they weren't paying attention.

Vote carefully next year, the bells are not always audible.
If its true that "ignorance is bliss," then you must be one very happy individual...
This is a technical comment. While I agree with many of your statements, I take exception to your approach. Passion without modulation is just loud noise.

We live in a a super-saturated media environment and, while you have many valid points worthy of discussion, you would be well advised to break them down into separate posts that people can wrap their arms around.

This has been a problem for opposition forces for as long as there have been opposition forces. Simply put, too many arguments simply obscures the facts.

Most importantly, we need to stop analyzing the problem and start working on a solution. Obviously, the internet has changed everything and, far from being the scion of a new democracy, it may be the death knell for it inasmuch as it seems to be moving us toward direct democracy which is essentially direct dictatorship.

The problem is one of scope and scale. I will give just one example.

T. Boone Pickens misguidedly started promoting his concept of huge wind power farms, perpetuating the same death grip on energy that the oil barons had by simply replacing the oil with electricity. Recently, however, he has had to pull back on his commitment to wind and solar energy because the cost of building transmission lines for the electricity, along with the astronomical cost of the wind turbines and solar energy collectors, makes large scale projects of this nature economically unfeasible.

The problem is the scope and scale. Ten million roof-top wind powered generators on ten million homes would cost a fraction of what consolidated wind power farms would cost....and would sit on the existing power grid.

Promote this, along with localized solar and water power projects, and you can break through the hegemony of the capitalist system's enslavement effect. Owning the means of producing energy is the only real source of power in this civilization.

Now, that's an example of what I am talking about. Clean up your presentation, break down your thinking into a sequence of posts and you will get more done.
Don't blame me, I voted for Cynthia McKinney! Also, three little words that come to my mind often when I think of Obama: "Bush's third term."
Pushing this back into the late-late-night feed.....

Keep goin', BBE. After the Ft. Hood incident today, who knows how the spin will come down. So many issues, such ignorant citizens.....
I agree that we need a new Party. But this party has to be strong enough to beat both Rebublicans and Democrats. Remember, Bill Clinton was elected because Ross Perot took a LOT of votes away from the republicans.Ralph Nader could not do that. I voted for the democratic candidate because I could not risk helping the republicans to win. I will not vote for a 3rd party candidate unless they have a chance. That means he or she needs a LOT of money, a LOT of media influence (i.e. to be allowed to participate in the debates) and, oh yeah, they must be without sin.
BBE, you've convinced me - I'll vote for Lyndon LaRouche in the next election! That's who your working for isn't it?
WAY TO GO.

YOU ARE RIGHT ON TARGET.

CHECK OUT MY BLOGS SOMETIME.

THERE IS STRENGTH IN NUMBERS.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND GREAT BLOGGING.
For the record, I never believed that O was some sort of messiah. I never believed that waters would part by his very command. I voted for Obama because he wasn't the GOP. I will continue to vote Democratic until there is a viable ("viable" is the operant word) third party. It makes no sense to support a weak third party at this time because all it will do is bleed vital voting blocks away from the Democratic candidate. Result? The GOP wins. No, I'll bide my time until another figure emerges that can instantly command at least one third of the electorate so we can finally break the two party stranglehold.
Listening to you, I would have been honor bound to vote for McCain.

This has been a rough year, but I can say this with absolute assurance: Under McCain it would have been infinitely worse.

Feel free to climb down off the cross, Mary - we need the wood.
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Slam and dunk. Obama was elected based on hope, hope that he wouldn't be Bush44, and that' precisely what he's turned out to be. Twelve days in office, Nobel Peace Prize? How about withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan? How about a believable 9/11/01 investigation?

We get more of the same. The Democrats are useless. The Republicans are just as bad, only they have more integrity -- you know they're out to fuck you, while the Democrats love to paint a beautiful picture and then fuck you.
BBE - It's always harder to type while crying. I agree with all your pain and disappointment, but don't think Obama was the wrong choice. Nader could never have won - a vote for him just makes you feel righteous without actually solving anything. The problem is with our system - one man CAN'T make the kind of change we need. We need to move to a proportional representation democracy (http://www.worldpolicy.org/projects/globalrights/democracy/abcs.html) rather than what we have, which leads to the insane idea that the only way to win is to make sure the other side loses. WE all go down in the same boat.

And right now, I need to hold onto my hope that the man I elected is who I think he is, and that he'll be able to take those acts of courage required to move us toward a world of compassionate justice and opportunity. Now I have to go put cold packs on my eyes - too many years of sadness - I need my hope. And I love your heart.
I was suckered, but not any more. Thanks for hammering my hard head until I snapped out of it. There is an old saying, "if it seems to good to be true it usually isn't.." You look it up in the Dictionary I bet Obama's picture can be found there. :>]
Rated with gusto. My hopium high felt good while it lasted. Now I just have a headache, cotton mouth and I feel like shit.
You are absolutely right.
Poppin' it into the feed! Keep on keepin' on, BBE.
This is getting to be taxing old news... The real question is, what is to be done about it???
DOJ subpoenas popular news site for visitors' ip addresses, emails, credit card info and more:

http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/11/doj-are-dirty-fascistic-bastards-they.html
Needless to say, Josh, every word we utter is recorded and archived, Thank G-d, we are fearless people like BBE and Padraig, who care not that their comments are a matter of record.

I am one with them

mark aleshnick
Very nice thread amigo! Don't take the allegations of racism seriously at all; that stuff is for the right-wing crazies who would paint like a Hitler mustache on Obama. O' Bomb 'Em is undoubtedly a monster, but probably not to the Hitlerian level (he inches closer and closer, however, with each passing day). The sycophants of Obama are all peeing their pants right now, because their 'hero' and 'savior' sold them down the river for the corporatocracy, Wall Street, the military industrial complex, Big Pharma, and all the rest.

Here's something I've written that you might like to read, it basically got me thrown off of Oped News, where I had been contributing for almost a year (all of these 'alternative media websites' are just fronts for the Democratic Party IMO; with the exception of like a Counterpunch and a handful of others):

Barack Obama and the Banality of Evil
http://www.metamute.org/en/barack_obama_and_the_banality_of_evil
Keep beating that drum.
What drum would that be Harry's Ghost? I'm not one to throw around incendiary terms like racist, but that is Obama if anyone. Do you know the U.S. government is massing troops at four military bases in Columbia? What else could this be but a provocation against Venezuela? A country that has been led by a white elite for most of its history.

Official US Air Force Document Reveals the True Intentions Behind the US-Colombia Military Agreement
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/4917

Chavez the current president is part Native America, Spanish, and he also has African ancestry. Why does Obama support white elite rule in Latin America? He has not been friendly to Evo Morales either, who is essentially his equal in Bolivia, Morales is the first indigenous person to be president of that country.
Just to clarify my above comment, my point is that U.S. Latin American policy is racist (and has been for probably a century or more). It's an odd thing, a person of color pursuing racist policies (Clarence Thomas, of course, probably does the same; I believe he is opposed to affirmative action). My intent wasn't to call Obama a racist, I don't know what the appropriate term is/would be. The point is the policy he inherited (and that he is continuing to pursue) is racist in nature, IMHO.
156 Chinese protesters killed before Obama's arrival

http://joshfulton.blogspot.com/2009/11/china-jails-dissidents-before-obama.html
I was merely encouraging BBE to keep on with the updates and the litany (or drum beats) of transgressions that are destroying us. Just for the record I am not an Obama hater, it's simply a matter of policy. Kucinich is probably one who has spoken most of my viewpoints the best.
Sorry Harry's Ghost, when I hear beat the drums, I think the war drums, lol... Actually it's not that funny, it's serious, but I took your comment negatively; and apparently I shouldn't have.
Damn. Hopes dashed again. And again.
Obama is doing nothing more or less than what has been preordained by causality, and we need not point fingers at him without first pointing at oursevles.
Hope and Change. He didn't fail. The failure belongs to us.
You (all of you, every last one including myself) are too stupid, divided and weak to do a damn thing about it.
Don't blame Obama, place it where it belongs, on the shoulders of the plebes.
Besides, he's just the sock puppet to keep us busy while the shadow government runs the show.
Dow/Pharma/Haliburton
DPH forever baby!
Obama has been disappointing. He's just another politician whose chief concern is self-preservation and self-aggrandizement. His support for health-care reform has been more than offset by his need to keep the issue at a safe distance from himself, in case the measure is defeated or severely watered down in the Senate. Meanwhile he signs on for $700 billion in defense spending this year (not counting Iraq and Afghanistan), then turns around and floats the idea of asking for a 5% across-the-board budget cut for civilian agencies. He has not made good on the transparency and open government memos that he signed on his FIRST full day in office, has not closed GITMO, and on and on. I really am beginning to wonder if there's a single honest, courageous politician left in this country. Obama ain't it, that's for sure.