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SEPTEMBER 15, 2009 8:13AM

Domestic Violence is a Pre-existing Condition (Not a Joke)

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Read about this bullshit here:

Domestic violence is a "pre-existing condition"?

 and here:

Big Insurance Defines Abuse as a Pre-Existing Condition

Reflect on what this means and take it to the logical conclusions.  If you have fallen out of a tree and broken your arm, you are now uninsurable.  If you were in a car accident and broke bones, you are now uninsurable.

This is madness.

Keep in mind that the "Public Option" is a Windfall for the Insurance Corporations.  IT IS NOT REFORM.

Reform means the end of insurance.

Insurance is the PROBLEM.

Say no to this latest bailout scam!

Call your representatives and demand support for HR 676.

 

Remember:

 

  • Single Payer (Medicare for all) HR 676 which has 93 sponsors is the solution, not massive profits for insurance companies due to mandatory buy ins as proposed by the so called "public option."

  • We need heathcare access, not access to insurance. 

  • Health insurance should go the way of the buggy whip. 

  • Heath insurance is the problem.  More of it is not the solution. 

  • Health insurance adds 15 to 30 percent to the cost of healthcare, but what value does it add?

  • Read the text of HR 676 which is more than what most Congressional Reps do before voting on bills.  You will ask yourself, why is this not the bill being championed by the president and passed by those big majorities in both houses?

  • Call the switchboards and demand true reform.  Demand HR 676.

  • Call the White House: 202-456-1111

  • Call Your Representative in Congress: 202-224-3121

  • Call Your Senators: 202-224-3121

 

 

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There was a time when insurance served a useful purpose and insurance rates were based on sound actuarial analysis. Today though, it is all about profit, as your example illustrates.

Keep doing what you're doing BBE and maybe the country will grow a brain.
It drives me up the wall to hear only conversations about making insurance affordable.

Affordable insurance?

Bullshit.

Make health care affordable and there is no need for insurance.
You left out the best part. After using their massive 30% overhead to build all their luxury buildings and finance all their corporate outings, they then get to gamble with the profits and if they lose guess who gets to pay!

Corporations are the de facto government in this country. Try reading about us in the European press and they think we have lost our minds and sold our souls. They are right.
I'm all for the idea that a woman shouldn't go back to a man that beats her, but it happens all the time. So now insurance is not only between you and your doctor, but also between you and your relationships. And the right just keeps screaming about their freedoms. Pathetic. I'm all for single payer. The only compromise is a public option. AP.O. would eventually phase out the insurance companies, but with the Senates new proposal, it looks like the lobbyists have gotten to them again. Affordable insurance is an oxymoron.
We didn't sell our souls, they were stolen from us by lying politicians who were aided and abetted by fools who were more concerned with gay marriage and Muslims than what the people they voted for actually did once elected. When faced with those actions they still chose to swallow bullshit and ignore the truth. There is no such thing as affordable health insurance. Wages will not rise to cover the shortfall that paying for mandatory insurance will bring. It will just expand the number of people who have to choose each month what to pay and what kind of food and how much can they buy while juggling the utilities and mortgages. Keeping the current system is pointless, there are no bigger lies told by the government than the old dodge of tax credits. What about those people who the system will surely miss? The ones that slip between income guidelines and the cleverly uncoordinated way that they are set up to be? What I'm seeing is just more nonsense like no child left behind that puts schools in the position of having to improve without funding or join other districts at an even greater cost than before. Without a system that doesn't even further gut the shrinking budgets of the people we have done nothing more than throw a promise of higher profits to insurance companies at the expense of peoples lives.
BBE, I wonder if taking a tire iron and beating the hell out of an insurance executive is a pre-exiting condition?
Pre-exit is right.

Final exit is what is needed for the insurance corporations.
Reason number 302 why we need single-payer health insurance. Rated.
domestic violence?
FUCK! I'm in total agreement, but is the corporate stranglehold already too tight? Yeah, it is, due to the ignorance of our average citizen. I admire the fight you're waging though BBE.
This is totally outrageous. I am all for the fight you are fighting.. The insurance company have enough control over us, they don't need anymore.
They can't base a preexisting condition on your relationships. I would be totally screwed, because even if I am no longer and never will be again in bad relationships, I have in the past.
Basing it on relationships there would be more then just the poor having problems getting insurance. Because domestic violence has no preference of race, financial status, or religion.
Great post
Thanks for keeping it up, BBE. Facebooked, at least. Rated.
this makes me physically ill
When Obama said, "I don't want to put insurance companies out of business," all I could think was, "Why not?" They're parasitic.

When I hear Republicans say, "This is just the first step on the road to socialized medicine," all I can think is, "I sure as hell hope so."

Most people want single-payer. Most doctors want single-payer. Why this is a problem is beyond me.
If you do not personally examine my girl-parts, or mop the floor where my girl-parts are examined, there is NO room for you at the table.

Insurance is not needed, care is needed. The folks in charge of this debate need to "ball-up" and get the entire insurance "industry" out of the fucking discussion. They MUST be denied a seat at the table.

There has never been any sweeping reform in this country without very large balls.....without true leadership.

I love Obama, but I'm not seeing it here. (Or with the agreement to continue the hateful "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. He needs to stand up to those homophobic old-school military leaders, and say to them, "YOU work for ME. Get over it."
I would love for President Obama to have more power in all this. I agree that single payer is the way to go. It's good to remember that andy progress is better than no progress. At least a few lives are saved. Maybe next time the public won't be so scared of a good idea.

President Obama can't do anything without bringing the DINOS (Democrats in name only) along. Sorry. The democratic party truly is a big tent, and the fairly right has to be brought in with the fairly left. Compromise is all we're going to get this time around. This is just the start of the eventual victory. This battle should be won so it can be built on in the next battle.

If indeed the country is wholly or partially controlled by big biz,then the President can only do so much. There is a lot of disappointment, but no democratically elected official can do more than he is doing by working out the best agreement that will pass a vote. Inch by inch, this elephant is getting eaten.
Re: domestic violence. Next time shoot him. After all, he'll be covered.

Quote heard in a women's shelter "If I'd shot him when I met him I'd have been out of jail by now."
Holy crap!

I guess the silver lining is that this system is so fucked up that even Republicans will one day support reform. After all, no matter how much money they get, they can't win elections if all their voters are either CEO's of insurance companies or dead from lack of treatment.
Very scary, pretty soon it will be a crime to get sick or suffer injury.
Somehow I know how this is all going to play out. People like me - a small business owner, female - will be screwed no matter what. Truth be told, I'm thinking of leaving the country. Obama is too much of a wuss to make a radical difference. He will pander. Congress will pander. Lobbyists might as well run our government at this point.
WTF? I can't even comment on this.