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SEPTEMBER 1, 2010 10:03AM

How to Ruin a Hobby

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"You could sell these!" It was a well-meaning comment, a compliment. A friend, upon seeing my laundry room shelves lined with rows of curing soap, gasped in pleasure, and said aloud what I'd been quietly thinking – that I could sell these.

My great grandmother, Ma Mayo, had ugly memories of making soap in a big pot out the yard, stories of the skin-stinging lye soap made from various stinky animal fats, potash and salt. She held no nostalgia for the process or the product. She was a tiny, sour-faced woman who dipped (and spit) snuff, thought big bags of unshelled pecans made excellent gifts for children, and died in1982 without ever having indoor plumbing because she was suspicious of city water and afraid of alligators coming up through the pipes. Obviously I couldn't much trust her opinion on anything, and her unfond tales about the soap pot were the spark that, years later, ignited my interest in soapmaking. 

It was the late 90's and the internet made research far easier than it might otherwise have been. I read everything online and in the library, consulted saponification tables, practiced with small batches, perfected my recipes. Soon, I had more soap than my family could ever use, scores of bars. That quiet thought – I could sell these – grew louder. 

I launched my business in 1999, and was instantly inundated with orders from individuals and gift shops. My little hobby took over my kitchen. Many nights I made soap instead of dinner. Once, I set my stove hood on fire while I was simultaneously heating oil and taking a phone order. I made soap, balms, milk baths and soaking salts. I designed and printed labels, wrapped and packaged products, ordered supplies, kept up with paperwork and paid taxes. Weekends were spent at craft fairs or farmer's markets. I even taught a few soapmaking classes. 
 
soap in mold 
Soap in the Mold. (My husband made the mold.)
 
Over the years, I sold thousands of bars of soap and never turned a true profit. The cost of ingredients was too high; the process was too labor intensive. I began to hate making soap, when what I really hated was selling soap. So I quit, closed my business, said goodbye to my craft fair friends and gift shop owners, fielded calls from nearly-hysterical customers who had to have soap. (I can't be sure, but I think they survived.)

These days I make two kinds of soap: a lavender and buttermilk soap because it's my favorite, and a patchouli and orange soap for my hippie children. Friends and family get bars for Christmas and birthdays. I also make tea tree oil balm and homemade deodorant for my son who takes after Ma Mayo in some respects – he's suspicious of city water and of chemicals in commercial deodorants. I politely refuse any requests to purchase a bar or two. It would be too easy to get sucked back in.
 
new batch 
A Batch of Lavender and Buttermilk Soap
 
A while back I made necklaces out of linen strips and vintage buttons and gave them as gifts. One recipient admired the necklace and said, "This is so cute! You should sell these!" I just smiled and thought, No way!

****Soapmaking isn't as difficult as you might imagine. It's rewarding and – I'll warn you now! –  addictive. It's a useful craft and there aren't too many of those. There are plenty of online resources, forums and books available if you'd like to dig a little deeper and experiment with some simple recipes. I will leave you with my recipe for tea tree oil balm. It's simple, inexpensive and the ingredients are easy to find.
 
tea tree oil balm 

Tea Tree Oil Balm

½ cup olive oil
1/4 to 1/3 cup beeswax pellets (available in craft stores or through an online supplier)
1 oz tea tree oil (available at a lot of pharmacies in the foot  care section, at a health food store, or online)
1 Tbsp vitamin E oil (available at most pharmacies)
A clean 1 cup jar or tin to hold the balm

In a double boiler, heat the olive oil and 1/4 cup of the beeswax until the beeswax is melted. Add the tea tree oil and the vitamin E oil. Drop a little bit onto the counter and blow on it until it's cool and then rub it on the back of your hand.  If it's firm enough to set but will spread once you add the heat of your fingertips, it's done. If it's still a little loose, add more beeswax and stir until melted. Test again. Once you've achieved the desired consistency, pour into a small jar to cool and set. I use the balm on chapped hands, rough heels and minor skin abrasions or scratches.****

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This is charming AND useful. I may even try to make some soap. It seems like cooking, except with non-foods-- and not too hard. (Although some of my cooking has tasted soapy, not soupy.)
Since I can't convince you to sell any, would you mind making me your friend and sending me a bar or two of that soap you make your hippie children? You can even leave out the orange if it's too labor intensive, but I do love me my patchouli! ;)
The stuff you still make sounds exactly like our family's favorite scents. I don't blame you for giving up the business . . . but I sure admire the craftiness of your soap making!
Ah, this is why I stopped "crafting," although soap is vastly more useful than primitive/faux distressed angels made out of other peoples' trash. You have captured so well the process of loving to do something, deciding to try to make a business out of it, and getting totally turned off. I am glad you still make some soap, I hope it brings you joy to make it, and I won't ask if I can buy some - even though I (honest to God) buy patchouli orange soap from a woman at our Farmer's Market that probably isn't as good as yours......
My friend Mindy makes soap.. I love these.. where do you get the patience?
Rated with hugs
I want to be your friend and get some soaps! Orange and patchouli..hmmm...xox
Bell is there anything you can't do? Enjoyed the story and the pics, the pics make you want to make your own.... uh oh...hugs.r
Those look good. I understand about ruining a hobby.... I loved gardening until I became a landscape worker. I used to make a lot of jewelry, hand knotted and hammered and beaded, no more. And now I knit, also for fun and gifts. People ask me to sell them things, or to teach them... and I have learned to say, no. But thanks for the compliment. R
Talk about staring at some gorgeous! Swap you paper for soap, any day. I might try to make some tea tree bee balm. That looks like just the thing to keep by the kitchen sink.
One of The Redhead's sisters did this for quite a while, selling the bars, along with a lip balm she created, through a farmer's market and various gift shops. It IS labour-intensive and cost-inefficient. But it was good soap, nonetheless, as it would appear yours were (and obviously are).
Of course they survived. But they stink!

I'm with Cartouche: I want to be your friend, though I'd opt for some of each. I'd offer to do something for you in return, but I have no abilities, so you'll just have to be generous and a Better Person.
Lavender and buttermilk! Mmm... mmmm!

There are just so many creative and talented people here on OS! You, Bell, are one!
Belle, Excellent contribution to the "Made" open call. Still, I want some of that soap. Especially the patchouli and orange. And the lavender and the buttermilk. Guess I'll have to settle for the Tea Tree Oil. Thanks for the recipe.
Wonderful and very useful at the same time. I understand how you might have felt overwhelmed doing something you used to love because it was really taking off. There has to be a balance in all that home made handcrafted stuff. We have a completely different kind of business, but I tell you I work hard to make sure it doesn't completely take over our lives, sometimes it is a losing battle! R
What an interesting post! And, I agree, sometimes you just have to do what you love, for free, or else it turns into something awful.
I just knew you were crafty as well as arty! Coming from you, this is so tempting, but I have too many craft projects-gone-bad lying around. I am of the Lucy & Ethel school of salad dressing business--losing $ on each unit but will make it up in volume :) (r)
fascinating. Sounds like a blast! I totally understand about ruining a hobby.I love to make candy and bake and cook and people are always telling me that I should cater or sell my candies or trying to "order" a batch from me, but I know that once I add in that stress, all the joy would be sucked out of the process. Can you recommend a book for beginning wanna-be soap makers. Not for profit, of course. ;-)
Lea -- The most difficult thing is finding the ingredients, after that it's pretty straightforward. I have mixed up food and soap equipment before (a no-no!) and tasted soap.

Cartouche -- Patchouli is one of the only essential oils that sticks to the skin. It's powerful stuff. (Purchasing essential oils through a soapmaking supplier will save you tooonnns of money if you like essential oils.)

Owl -- Yes, making soap is fun again. For a while it was such a chore.

Ann -- I want to see those angels!

Linda -- It doesn't take much patience. Trust me. I don't have much.

Robin -- The orange and patchouli was my best seller. The supplier for the essential oil blend has gone out of business, but I stockpiled!

Hugs -- I can't do a lot of things (like write poetry!). I do hope you'll make your own.

Oryoki -- I knew a lot of people would understand the trap, how making a hobby a business can suck the fun out.

Green -- Paper for soap? I'd be cheating you! The balm is great to apply to hands after washing dishes. I've also substituted lavender essential oil for the tea tree (which is antiseptic and has a medicinal smell).

Boanerges -- I've met lots of soapmakers, and still keep in contact with some of them. We're a sisterhood of sorts! Once you've gotten used to the homemade stuff, it's hard to go back to the commercial bars.

Pilgrim -- Ha! I'm sure they found other sources for their soap. P.S. If you can run lawnmower we can trade.

Little Kate -- Thanks! The buttermilk doesn't impart any scent (thank goodness) but it does add a creaminess to the lather.

Scarlett -- I've enjoyed reading the made open calls, and I'm glad I had something to contribute. Let me know if you try the balm. They make great gifts too.

Sheila -- It imagine it's a balancing act with any business, and maybe my resentment came because it started as a hobby and it used to be fun. Maybe the mindset is different when you enter business from that direction?

Alysa -- I do wonder if I would have felt the same way if I'd actually made money? Or if the hobby-to-business model was just doomed to soul-sucking with or without a profit.

Dirndl -- The good thing about soap is that from start to finish takes less than an hour (not including the time the soap is in the mold and then curing). You can' t start and then put it down and go do something else! I liked that aspect of it.

Zul -- It is a compliment that people think your product is of professional quality. As for soapmaking, the internet is your best resource. Start with Miller's Homemade Soap Page. It's probably the oldest site out there. It's been around since the late 90's. Start with the "Rachel's Tried and True" recipe. It uses inexpensive oils and you don't have to buy a scale. The 12 oz of lye comes out to about 1 and 1/3 cup of lye if you don't have a scale. Lye is difficult to come by these days, but you can usually find it at a small hardware store (like Ace) or through a local chemical supply company or online.

Kate -- You're right, there's nothing like a good bar of soap. I hope you'll try the recipe!
Bell, I can't get the rate button to work, sorry. But I love this post! Thanks for generously providing the balm recipe, I will try it. Like everyone else said, I'd pay you for some of your gorgeous soap if you'd let me, but we're friends, right?
Bell, I can't get the rate button to work, sorry. But I love this post! Thanks for generously providing the balm recipe, I will try it. Like everyone else said, I'd pay you for some of your gorgeous soap if you'd let me, but we're friends, right?
You are going to have a LOT of new friends. Me included. There's something about wax and oil, great balm. I'm jealous of your hippie children.
Thanks for sharing your recipe. I buy handmade soap and love it! I've often been curious about trying to make it myself, but am intimidated by the process.
If I was capable of making anything myself, I would love to trade something for some of that lavender buttermilk soap.

I think I've seen this phenomenon quite a bit on etsy. Lots of times I'll go back to try and buy something again from a seller, and I'll find that they're just not there anymore. I imagine that it can get absolutely overwhelming.
Your home must be a palace of sensory delights...sights, smells, textures! It looks so luxurious in a delectably homespun way...something that you'd be reluctant to use because of all the time and the loving hands it took to make it, but also something that is too enchanting to refrain from indulging it. How well I know the turnoff in making something you love into something you try to capitalize from. Some of the magic is taken away.... But I do wish I could purchase some!
I love this post, especially since I once had the same type business! You are right, I think in order to turn a profit, you have to sell millions of bars of soap. I made a killing with my bath milk, especially Lavender. Thanks for the memories.
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This gives a new meaning to doing what you love--not what you can sell. Good for you for the return to a love.
"You could sell these" - words of doom, I know. But your soaps sound fabulous. Stop giving them away, store them up for the Apocalypse, and you will be able to exchange them for canned goods and ammo.
I love your description of Ma Mayo! Yes, turning a hobby into a business often takes away all the fun. (That's what makes it a hobby, you don't owe anyone anything, right?)

Thank you for sharing your recipe for Tea Tree balm. I've paid silly amounts of money to some guy named Burt for stuff like that.

PS, if you want to open an OS shop, I don't think anyone would complain...
Your soaps look good enough to eat! :) I can't wait to try your balm recipe when the weather gets cooler & everyone starts becoming chapped all around.

Thank you for sharing this great hobby--I'm glad you still love it again.
I can make this with lavender? oh boy, consider it done.

I, too, get the "you could sell these!" every time I go through the grocery line with my market bags. Yep, I could, but I won't. I'll be giving them as gifts this Christmas (which reminds me to get my act together.)

Oh, and I remember a family friend making soap...she was a true mountain woman (born about 1920 in a very small town in NC).
What a story! Your great-grandmother sounds like my husband's Oklahoma great-uncle by marriage--never had running water in his house, and his only concession to technology was a homemade buzz saw powered by a Model T engine. And I love, love, LOVE scented soaps and have toyed with the idea of making them--thanks for the hints! I hope now it will continue to be fun for you.
I MUST have some buttermilk soap!!!! MUST!!!! H-h-hallllp-p-p-p....(OMG...hyperventilating...going into shock...hysteria???) H-h-h-h-h....
Well, it's great to know that you can keep it a hobby. And, if you ever need to you can make soap to survive.

What to say-I'm salivating over those soaps.

Always glad to get chance to hear about your offline life.
Oh you KNOW I'm going to try to make that tea tree oil balm. Lye scares me though. Loved this post.
Linda -- Of course! Better yet, we can trade. I've got a bunion I need you to look at.

Lulu -- Come on down, Girl. At least I know you'd be okay with the dog hair.

Kathy -- Keeping my hippie children from stinking was one of the reasons I started this endeavor!

Hyblaean -- Don't be intimidated. It really isn't difficult to make a simple soap. Once you start getting into various fragrances and colorants and additives it gets more complicated, but the basic recipes are easy, and very rewarding.

Bonnie -- I did think about raising the price, but there's only so much people will pay for a bar of soap, and well, really by then I was just tired of the process anyway.

Jeanette -- I've experienced the same thing with Etsy. Having been through my retail/wholesale phase, I'm sympathetic, but I do miss some of my favorite sellers.

Susan -- Well, my house does smell good, even if it isn't clean! There are still a lot of soapmakers out there who selling -- Etsy is a good place to look. I do have one soaping friend who is going strong selling her soap, just happy to have a self-supporting hobby.

Fay -- Oh you KNOW! We should exchange recipes!

Mypsyche -- I hated losing that passion. When it's gone you so miss that feeling of delight and enthusiasm.

Mumble -- Ha! My husband and I actually talked about that during the Y2k frenzy. I said we should make soap and moonshine because people will want their booze and they'll need soap.

Grace -- You can make any kind of balm, with any kind of base oils (shea butter, avacado oil, etc.) as long as you have the beeswax. It's cheeeeaaaap, easy and fun to make.

Clay -- I'm learning to love it again. It takes a while for it to come back!

Jean -- Yes you can make it with lavender too. The only essential oils I like to use for it are the tea tree or lavender though because those can be applied directly to the skin without a carrier oil anyway. Some essential oils can cause photosensitivity or skin irritation, and that would defeat the whole purpose of the balm.

Felicia -- Ma Mayo was a character, that's for sure. She always reminded me of Granny from the Beverly Hillbillies (and looked quite a bit like her too.)

Matt -- You're hilarious! Some of the phone calls were like that.

Fernsy -- I'd hate to have to live on what I made selling soap. It would be a hard candy Christmas for sure!

Juli -- Don't let lye scare you. Unless you ingest it or spill a large quantity on your skin, all you get when it touches your skin is a sting before you wash it off. I mix my lye water in the sink, which minimizes any chance of it spilling and getting all over the kitchen, and I use a pitcher for the mixing so that it pours into the oils without drips or spills. I've never had a major mishap.
Belle, what a neat hobby. I love creative hands and minds - and your post. Your family and friends are blessed with you.
~R
I must have patchouly orange soap.
I am so impressed. The post is beautiful and I can't help but want some of the lavender and buttermilk for myself. Are you sure you don't want to make some small batches??? ~r
Actually, I'd love something with sandalwood...
Yep, I've often thought about making a little extra money selling the jewelry or quilts I make, but I know this would happen. Thanks for the great story and the recipe!
i made soap for a science class and loved it but i'm not diligent with most things except for a slim few. a good chunk of me wants to ask for a soap but my mother said begging is bad manners. lol.

enjoyed reading you.
Okay, so how long do we have to be friends before I make your Xmas list? I love the necklace idea, sounds like something I do with bracelets. My daughter loves them.
How wonderful to know this other side of you!
You should sell your writing. :-)

I feel you as the saying goes. I make leather cue cases. Been doing it for 20 years. At the beginning I made one for myself only.

I took a break for a couple years after building a company with more partners than friends. Sold out my share for a fraction of what it was worth just to get out.

Three years ago I started making cases again. The idea was to explore themes and build cases that interested me. Now, once again I am caught up working for other people. I work for my customers who have desires and demands that only I can fulfill because of the way I set up shop. I work for my employees, yes I have employees, whose salaries must be be paid regardless of whether they produce something "sellable" or not.

In a way I have what I always wanted. A little workshop/factory with elves to do my bidding with the ability to turn leather into whatever I like. On the other hand I have the tumor that keeps growing and weighing me down.

I have always given this advice to people who think I am a millionaire from this business. The best way to lose your love of playing pool and insure that you never play again is to get in the billiard business.

It's true. The best way to ruin a hobby is to turn it into a business.
Over the years I too, have had well meaning friends and family suggest just what I could sell, and that IS the best way to hate what you're doing. It is really hard to make any money at hand crafted items that you're trying to mass produce those --two things just don't work very well together. Fun post!
But, but, but, now I want the soap!!!!
You just had to go and put a picture of it and have us all aching from want.
Sad thing is I can't trade you on anything because I can hardly cook...
oh, well.
(I once bought a book on soap making. Didn't make one bar.)


Thanks for the recipe!
Thanks for the balm recipe. You are a clever lady. These useful skills have a genuine appeal these days. I was pondering how to resurrect my grandmother's skills at making and preserving apple sauce as I looked at our groaning apple tree in the back yard. As you suggest, I could probably find out the info needed on the internet. I sympathize about ruining a good hobby after setting up a catering business a few years ago--took all the fun out of cooking.
I've always wanted to make things, but I just don't have the ability -- tried a lot of things and have supplies from projects that were started with enthusiasm and good intentions, and abandoned. That also goes with feeble attempts at mastering an instrument. I would love to have the problem of being so talented at creation that I had to stop due to popularity of said creation! You are so fortunate to have the ability to pursue many creative outlets! Rated.
So true! I started doing things w/fused glass 3 years ago and still get pleasure out of the accidents, the spontaneous things I make, rather than the things I think: "Oh, I bet someone would like a sparkly glass cross..." [and would pay for it]. Glass is a very expensive hobby, therein lies the problem, and I'm not well-off enough to do it properly I think. So, now, I'm at a crossroads and your thoughtful piece struck a chord. Thank you!!
(P.S. Want to buy a lovely sparkly glass cross? JK, as my daughter would say :)
MARVELOUS, MS. VANCE!! r.
MARVELOUS, MS. VANCE!! r.
Sounds like you had some fun for a little while but I know how tough business can be. Lavender is my absolutely favorite fragrance. -R-
Fusun -- You are such a creative soul yourself! I'd bet you have some soapmakers in your family.

717Judie -- That was my best seller. I called it "Hippie Chick." There are plenty of eager sellers on Etsy these days, who are still in the honeymoon stages, or who are perhaps better at business than I was and can make money at it.

Joan -- When you come down South, I'll have a bar waiting for you.

Sweetfeet -- Quilts are so labor intensive, I wonder how anyone can bear to part with one. At least with jewelry or soap, the time spent isn't usually measured in weeks or months!

Bonnie -- I've paid exorbitant amounts for my favorite products too. Silly, really...or maybe not.

Renatta -- I've begged for my neighbor's poppyseed cake recipe and DAMMIT...she won't hand it over! I know where she keeps her hide-a-key but so far I've resisted the temptation to sneak on over and explore.

John -- Wise words. I'm glad you found a good balance and managed to return to something you loved. I hope things continue to go your way and that you maintain your love of pool. (What a cool business, btw!)

Anne -- Yes, that's it. Mass producing handmade items kinda takes the "handmade" out of it. There's no way around it.

Vanessa -- Soapmaking is more chemistry than cooking, so I bet you'd be excellent at it!

Dear Reader -- Oh yeah, I get that one too -- "You should open a restaurant or a catering business." Luckily I have friends who have been through what you describe. I'm a good cook, but I can't imagine cooking on demand.

Nelly -- I wish I had your photographic ability. Every single photo I take with my digital camera needs heavy editing in Picasso and is (basically) soulless. I don't know where that talent comes from, but wherever it is, it's a place I can't get to.

Ayememyself -- Those sound lovely! The cost of that craft must be extraordinary, and probably not profitable -- BUT, if you happen to create more items than you can use or gift, I don't think there's anything wrong with looking on "selling" as a way to support your hobby and maintain your craft/supplies. AND, some artisans do take off and command great prices. I'd never advise someone not to follow a dream.

Jonathan -- Thanks!

2mchwrk -- That made me laugh! People rarely think that the person teaching them a new skill merits proper pay. I mean, they have "talent." So how much work are you actually doing?!

Christine -- Lavender is one of my favorites too. I still love the smell of Yardley Lavender soap. Yeah, I had a good run. I can't say I'm sorry I did it. Every experience is a learning experience.
Rated Clean ... and Fragrant! Thanx for refiring my synapes ... memories of Grandma's homemade Lye Soap ... memories of after years of making soap in the country --- Grandma tried making soap in the city and the fire department came and put out the fire and the boiling brew. She was swinging a broome at them ... Mad as a Hornet!
Rated Clean ... and Fragrant! Thanx for refiring my synapes ... memories of Grandma's homemade Lye Soap ... memories of after years of making soap in the country --- Grandma tried making soap in the city and the fire department came and put out the fire and the boiling brew. She was swinging a broome at them ... Mad as a Hornet!
My husband, Steve Rogers, was a devoted amateur chef who LOVED cooking and refused to open a restaurant, despite pleas from his well-sated friends, for the very reasons you so eloquently describe!
My husband and I made our own soap.....it lasted about six months ! Haha ! Great article ! Rated.
It's true that attaching money and "having to" to something can take the magic out of it. Let's hope your wonderful writing never gets the de-magicing treatment.
How did I miss this? For the past week, I've been thinking to myself, "gee, it's time Bell wrote something..." Sorry I'm late to the party. This is so interesting! My older daughter is quite the crafty girl and will be dying to try this. We buy goat's milk soap from a local vendor at craft fairs - it's wonderful!
Hey, didn't Burt's Bees start out this way? You could have Bell's Bees!
Bell you seem to be a lady with many talents. Of all of them my favorite is your writing style.
rated for exceptionally sweet smelling and very clean entry. (I've missed you, computer is still in the shop and I have this tacky hand held stinker, makes it tough to get around here)
what a charming piece, bell. i'm always eager to read more about ma mayo, and this time i got alligators, too! my smart niece is in the homemade soap business of late and knows all about how soapmaking can take over your kitchen! and i know how a certain hobby can take over your life ...whether you can sell it or not. ;;