Bellwether Vance

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Bellwether Vance

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OCTOBER 13, 2010 9:02AM

Sex and Chicken Bones

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"Once teenagers have had sex, trying to convince them not to do it again is like trying to convince a dog that chicken bones are dangerous. It's impossible."

That's what I told my friend Mary Tom when she called to ask for advice. Her daughter is sixteen and has her first serious boyfriend. Her son is fourteen. She knows she has some rough years ahead. Among my group of girlfriends, my children are the oldest – 24 and 21 – and my parenting experiences have provided everyone else with examples, good and bad and very bad.

"What did you do?" she asked, after I'd given my solemn, definitive edict on sex and chicken bones.

"I chased them around the house yelling ‘Drop it! Drop it!'....Oh, you mean the teenagers? Nothing. At that point there isn't a whole lot you can do. Not legally."

She wailed in despair.

My children are now young adults and they don't share their sex lives with me, but I know they have "sex lives" and have had them for a while. Even before they had sex lives, I understood they would eventually have them, and set about preparing all of us, knowing ultimately I wanted them to feel comfortable with their bodies, free to explore and express themselves without shame.  Those years of awakening sexuality are heady, exciting times and the last thing I wanted was wind up the main topic at their adulthood therapy sessions, blamed for their sexual dysfunction along with everything else I'm legitimately on the hook for.  Besides, there were other teenage pitfalls that seemed more serious -- One of my son's classmates died in a drunk driving accident. One of my daughter's classmates committed suicide after failing to kick a heroine habit. That kind of serious. -- and while abstinence is an admirable choice if it's freely chosen, I never liked the idea that "purity" is a method of judging character. In short, if they could avoid the drugs, I'd be mostly okay with the sex and rock'n roll, especially the rock'n roll. How about that Elvis and his quaintly writhing pelvis?

That doesn't mean I bought them tambourines and a Hair soundtrack and let them loose. It doesn't mean I kept quiet about the responsibilities and complications that come with sexual relationships. I made sure they knew reproductive system physiology and all about the sin tax diseases, spirochetes and external crawlies. I wasn't above using humor and reverse psychology. At the breakfast table I primly told them, "Sex is dirty and disgusting. Unless you're married...."

"Then it's just disgusting," my son interrupted.

"Hey, Mister! You were born with a nine pound forehead. You need to think about how that happens."

He choked on his cereal.

"That's right. Until you can imagine standing at the business end of your girlfriend ready to accept whatever comes out as ‘the best thing that ever happened to me,' you'd better be very careful."

My daughter said, brightly, "Birth control. It's the shit!"

"Thank you for that word from our sponsor," I told her. 
 
As often happened, I lost my buoyant attitude rather quickly, needing to close on a very serious note.  "Just...Please...Don't be a cautionary tale. That's just about the worst thing you could end up being. Like your friend Jay. He missed out on a full scholarship and had to go straight from high school to work, and his girlfriend has already moved on to another boyfriend..."
 
By then, they'd stopped listening and had wandered off.  During their teendom, I often felt like I was performing the world's longest and least appreciated one-woman show, re-enacting the Death of Vaudeville, impersonating myself in cheesy variety acts, looking for the one that would return me to my former glory as the center of their universe -- a big-time star. They'd already moved on, replaced me with themselves, leaving me with my spinning plates and an old-fashioned magic routine. I reeked of flop sweat. 

I had faith in them and their choices anyway. It helped knowing – now, twenty-five years from high school –  the experiences  that seemed to have such weight, have floated away in the face of more important, far-reaching, mistakes. I regret Eddie, shoulder pads, teased "rooster" bangs, Rick, and harem pants with the same light recriminations. With much heavier sorrow, I regret being so careless with Mark's heart, all the sarcastic, hurtful things I said when I was trying to be funny, and worrying too much about what people thought of me. Those are the memories that burn and itch like an untreated STD, many years later.

And I know for a fact Mary Tom doesn't regret her high school boyfriend Felix nearly as much as she regrets Daniel, the man she married in her mid thirties, when she was recently widowed and vulnerable, the man who left her and her children emotionally and financially flattened.

At a recent reunion, I spoke with a girl who'd had an abortion in our Junior year. We were close then and I was a confidant, witness to her turmoil. I  made the appointment for her because she was too upset to do it herself. "It's just an appointment," I said. "You still have time to think about it." She seemed to bounce back quickly and we remained friends through our Senior year, until she left for college in Georgia. It was wonderful see her at the reunion and catch up. We hugged tightly and bounced side-to-side in a gleeful dance. She's an accountant, married, with three sons.  I suspect sometimes she wonders "what if..." but she's clearly happy with her life, not hollow-eyed and tortured by guilt.  Then there was the girl who got knocked up in her first year of college, had a baby and dropped out for a while. The first night of the reunion she drank a few beers and annoyed everyone with pictures of her kids. (I think that was me.)

We were, all of us, sexually active and good girls. Good students, good daughters, good friends who became good mothers, good wives or partners. Which confirms my belief that sexuality shouldn't ever be labeled "promiscuity" unless you have made that distinction for yourself, about your own behavior.

I reminded Mary Tom of these experiences, survived or forgotten, or remembered in the here-and-now with fondness for our foolish younger selves. She continued to fret. She wanted practical advice that would halt her daughter's sexual maturity in its tracks, and I had none to offer, other than -- "Don't buy her a car she can lie down in." and, borrowing from my daughter, "Birth control. It's the shit!"

After I hung up the phone, I called her right back. "I thought of something," I said. "The next time you eat chicken, keep the wishbone. Save it for a time when you really need it, and I'll come over and pull it with you."

I already know what I'll wish for, closing my eyes as I pull.  I'll wish for Mary Tom to be happy, and that will take care of everything.

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This post was difficult, getting the tone right while still saying what I wanted to say. Funny thing -- while I was working on it, my friend Tracy called to tell me she'd stumbled upon her son and his "bootie call" and wanted to know what I'd do. Luckily, because I had thought about it so intently this week -- I knew exactly what to tell her!
Belle,
This was hilarious and honest and true. You did get the tone right, absolutely right. "The first night of the reunion she drank a few beers and annoyed everyone with pictures of her kids. (I think that was me.)" Ha!

My girl just had her twentieth birthday this past weekend. Before she blew the candles out on her cake she said, "Now we can celebrate no teen pregnancies!" She got laughs all round and maybe a few sighs of relief ( especially from the older relatives!).
"Don't buy her a car she can lie down in." and, borrowing from my daughter, "Birth control. It's the shit!"

Note to self: Good advice.
I think you nailed it. I love the tone - and it's a great way to look at parenting; my mom was similar and I always think it's thanks to her openness that, while we did experiment, none of us went completely crazy and got addicted to drugs, had unplanned pregnancies, etc. Also, you're right about dogs and chicken bones - and in my experience, it also works for cats and rubber Barbie feet. Thanks for a great read by a great mom. R.
I still regret Hammer Pants.


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LOL
You just have to have faith in them and I did with mine.
Just like yours..
It is what it is :)
Rated with hugs
Good stuff, BV. Read parts of it aloud to Red, and she laughed right along with me. But the message came through, nonetheless.
Good, good advice, Bellwether . . . teenagers have been "doing it" since time began . . . giving them appropriate information is probably the best thing we can do! I think you hit the nail on the head, tone-wise.
oh. ms. v., you got it very right rated.
One of the top ten posts I've read on Open Salon. You got the tone perfectly, and your advice for parents is really good.

"Don't buy her a car she can lie down in." Not a good strategy to forstall sexual activity. I had a VW beetle as a teenager and although you can't lay down in it, you can have sex in it. You have to be limber though...

Rated.
I'd say you got the tone just right BV. Isn't it fun being the friend in the group with all the "experience?" BTW, I bet you looked really cute in your rooster bangs!

Lezlie
Beautifully written and true to the bone.
After my son got pierced [again, and again] I was showing my husband and my cousin his little tin box he keeps all of his piercings in. And there were....his condoms! Oh my! I carefully put them back where I found them. I knew I had done all the preparatory lectures for years and now he was becoming a man.
He has a girlfriend now and I don't know what their sex status is but I am confident in my son. After reading this, I may call with the reminder of "until you can imagine standing at the business end of your girlfriend...."
You did a great job on this one. I got through those teenage times in one piece with my kids, thank god.
I never told my daughters about the birds and the bees. They have no idea what sex is.
Scarlett -- That's funny! And I know you're proud of her.

Linnn -- It won't prevent them from fooling around, but at least they won't be comfortable.

Alysa -- Yes, the going crazy is the part we all fear. It seems that the more you try to control them the likelier it is that they will go off the rails.

Larry -- I'd love to see you in Hammer Pants. Oh...I forgot one. I regret fluorescent t-shirts.

Linda -- Have faith in them. It sounds so easy. We both know it isn't. But we survived!

Boanerges -- Thanks to you and Red! I'm glad you saw the humor in it.

Owl -- Yes, a lot of knowledge is a very good thing when it comes to teens. I know they got tired of me talking, but I never wanted them to come to me one day and say, "You never told me about ___!!"

Jonathan -- Thanks! I really enjoyed your Fetus post yesterday. I got there after you closed comments, so I just wanted to let you know.

Gratefuldan -- Ha! The images I'm coming up with are hilarious...and disturbing.

Lezlie -- Rooster bangs are never pretty. It is good being past those years, and being the one who survived them without going crazy. Now I'm onto other parenting challenges!

Deborah -- At least you found condoms instead of a pregnancy test! Those first signs of sexuality are indeed a shocker, even if you expect it and think you are prepared.

Schmoopie -- Thank you for the encouraging words. It's good to be on the other side of it. I can laugh about it now.
Yes your attitude is the only way. Being a Dad with protective special operations skills and who also likes to scare young men who have the faint notion of having sex with my one of my Daughters. While fun to do that, it's a hoot, giving them the freedom to find themselves (with guidance) is a far better thing. It also helps if you have a home on 900+ac surrounded by National Forest and good aim. Very good post Bellwether, a pleasure to read and I will share it with a few friends who have teens of their own. older/exasperated r*******
I regret taking to heart so much of my parents' religious/social beliefs regarding teens and appropriate behavior while I was in my pre-teen years.
You nailed this - and it should be required reading for, um, teenagers, parents, both? Wonderful writing, dear Bell.
This is a great post. My children are 20, 18, 16, and almost 14. Dealing with this stuff is not easy for any parent, particularly when you know what's going on because you made the same mistakes once. Once? Who am I kidding? And I was a good girl.

It does help knowing, as you said, that the things which seemed to carry so much weight then were really only minor obstacles. It may have felt like the sky was falling when we had to call our parents and tell them that I was pregnant just one year out of high school and not yet married, but here we are, still in love and with four beautiful children. All those eyes I felt continually in the early years of our marriage probably weren't. What's more, I no longer care if they were.

Even so, it isn't easy finding condoms in the console of your son's car when you're looking for the current insurance card. Or when you have to explain that heat may compromise rubber. Then there is the question of what else you should say. The best thing I've figured out is to handle it all with honesty, love, and a bit of humor. Then, too, I have to constantly remind myself that we've raised them well. We aren't done, but our role as parents changes as they get older. It's important to remember to "hold on loosely but don't let go."
Well done, Bell! You would be a great speaker for schools with your sane, matter-of-fact, and always humorous approach. Not all parents are like you.
I agree--you got it right. Sex and consequences, death and remembering, tied together with funny.The best of conversations.
So honest and true, such a great read Bell.r
I may have said this before, but I think I'll have to say it again. THIS is your best post. Ever.
Just when I think I've read the best thing you've ever written here, I get another graf like the one that begins and ends like this..."During their teendom, I often felt like I was performing the world's longest and least appreciated one-woman show, ... I reeked of flop sweat". Is your middle name Brilliant?

It was never spoken of in my home growing up, or even as I got married, and never after I had kids. I guess they figured I'd read a book someplace. So, since it worked out so well for me, I did the same with my kids. ha! (although I've since discovered the door doesn't swing one way and now, they talk too much). ::fingers in ears:: nannnanananananna
Thank you for your lovely writing, Ms. Bellwether Vance...so funny & true, up to & especially the very last line!
Bell, I loved every word of this. I love your advice about dogs and chicken bones and teenagers and s-e-x.
Cartouche said it best.~r
"Hey, Mister! You were born with a nine pound forehead. You need to think about how that happens."

I read this and choked on my tuna fish....from pure laughter!
Perfect, perfect tone. The chicken bone quote and the Death of Vaudeville are priceless. I know it doesn't let me off the hook by any means but: I am glad I have a boy...
This is a delightful post.

I, too, love the 9# forehead. My mother was junior high school health teacher and I look back fondly on all the times before I went out in high school that she would lovingly say:

"Michael, have a good time tonight. Call if you're going to be late. Here's $20 . Remember that if you wind up a teenage father, it will only happen once, because your dad and I will subsequently remove your testicles and put them in a jar of blue juice on a shelf in your bedroom for you to admire for the rest of your high school career. Have fun, honey."

I DID have a fun adolescent life. I never became a teenage father.
"That's right. Until you can imagine standing at the business end of your girlfriend ready to accept whatever comes out as ‘the best thing that ever happened to me,' you'd better be very careful."

LOL! The "too much information" tactic probably works pretty well, I'd imagine. Rated.
Nine pound forehead! That's a great name for a band. Excellent story!
R
Awesome and funny.

And required reading for my teenage daughters.

B.C. - it's the Shit! Indeed.
Great post! I wish my mother had taken a page from your book.
"Sex is dirty and disgusting. Unless you're married....Then it's just disgusting," my son interrupted. Sounds like my kids. I tend to get very clinical. I told my sons that they could catch stuff that could make their ...Ahem.. manhood fall off! I told my daughter to never let someone make you feel like you owe them something, namely yourself! My sons are now 21, and 20, and I am always yelling at them to be smart and stop at the drugstore. Trying to stop them once they had a 'sample' is nearly impossible. I am hoping to make it through my daughter's teen years relatively unscathed. We shall see! This was a very well deserved and funny EP! R
I am amazed at how this is so laugh-out-loud funny but also deeply moving and helpful at the same time. My oldest is 14 and I think I will print this out to keep close by!

In case any of your friends like to read parenting books (I turn to them in desperation at times!) I have been reading a great one, Between Parent and Teenageer, that was written many years ago but has some great advice.
Great piece, Bell. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to throw my oldest a "no teen pregnancies" party. Will keep your advice for the other two. :)
Bell, you couldn't have said this any better and this should be read by any parent with an adolescent child. We always tried to be honest about sexuality and contraception with our daughters and they've grown up fine. Meanwhile, my eldest's best friend had strict parents, with premarital sex a loud no-no, and I predicted that she would be pregnant by the middle of her sophomore year of college. I was wrong; it was the middle of her freshman year. "Birth control. It's the shit!"
Being a teenager or having teenagers is no fun. Glad you wrote about it so well that I laughed!
Bell - this was great. I could relate in so many ways - especially having two 21's yr olds & a 23 yr old (girls). Like Scarlett said - I always remember when I could lay aside the fear of "teenage pregnancies". But mostly - that there really are so many much more scary scenarios. Most of us were there in our youth and turned out ok. Great piece.
Teens aren't easy. Just know that it does get easier, in a way. We have to let them fly, but on the other hand .... Keep wishing on that bone.
Has anyone noticed that at the moment you are confronted with your teen having sex you mind goes on vacation?

My oldest son and his girlfriend were going at it. She was on top riding for all she was worth. I guess that is why they didn't hear the call to dinner. So I went up stairs to get them and found the bedroom door open several inches. As I pushed it open a little bit more to tell them to come (no pun intended) down for dinner that's when my brain caught the last train to Memphis.

Out of my empty mind came the second dumbest thing I've ever said in my life. Nice Tits.

Dinner that night was so quite you could hear the chicken bones crunch. I kind of wish they had worked out. She had the cojones to come back around the next day. She would have been good for him.
This is the best thing I've read today. Mixing humor with straight talk is something I also used, and it seems to have worked out. I have my granddaughter and would like my son to jump on the bandwagon, but he wants to wait until he's thirty. Too many chicken bones jokes I guess!
This is wonderful, Bellwether.
I have to save this post three times over.
John -- That would be so sad. If I believed you!

Older -- You've expressed some of the same feelings my husband has felt. I'm sure his viewpoint would be a a little different from mine, even if we reached the same conclusion.

Stim -- You should do a post about that. It would be interesting to know how a parent's approach to sex-ed impacted your life. I hope my kids would have something positive to post, but you never know.

Kate -- He was huge. Mostly forehead. Even I can't imagine how that happened.

Aim -- Thanks for the kind review! I think those of us who have grown up during these years do need to remember what we experienced and bring it forward as we raise our own children. In the thick of things (dealing with our teens) it's hard to remember that we survived and thrived.

PrairieAir -- Exactly! I think you've achieved it, that magical compromise between love and knowledge and...just wanting the very best for them, and figuring out how to get them there no matter how uncomfortable that makes you.

Linda -- I have a feeling you'll do just fine when your children need guidance. I'm not sure I handled everything perfectly, but I know I did the best I could, what felt right.

Sophieh -- Conversations are so important. If you don't bring it up, you can't brainwash them.

Hugs -- Thank you. I tried to be true to my experiences and to the atmosphere I gave to my children. I think every family is different and no one approach is right for every child. I hope my approach was right for mine.

Cartouche -- That's so...great...that you would say that. Some posts come easily, and this one didn't, so I'm glad you liked it.

Gabby -- My parents didn't talk much about sex either. Which might be how I ended up pregnant at 18! It turned out well, but it could have been a bad situation. I kept that in mind when raising my own children. I probably talked too much. If that door swings, and they begin to talk too much, I'll use my finger-ear plugs a'la Gabby Abby.
How different this is from the way I was raised. I longed for a mother like you. Beautiful piece and examplary motherhood.
Rated.
Clay -- You're sweet! I really would wish for her to be happy. She deserves it.

Joan -- I know you have your own stories too tell on this subject. No one escapes teendom without STORIES.

Susan -- I admit to having guilted my son with stories of his birth, which was without pain meds, little me and big him. Maybe I scarred him forever, and now I won't ever get grandchildren and when the time comes to guilt him for that I will have lost all purchase!

Blue -- I think having a boy almost makes it worse, because in the case of an unintended pregnancy he has no control over the decision, when either choice will impact his life very heavily.

Michael -- Have fun honey! While you think about that blue juice. No wonder you delayed fatherhood.

Caroline K. -- Imagination is your best friend when dealing with teens. Imagination is the only thing they have that's stronger than hormones.

LittleWillie -- That would be a great band name! I love it!!

ConnieMack -- Yeah, it is kinda the shit. Too bad we don't acknowledge its awesomeness enough.

Mia -- I can't say my playbook was right, only that it seemed right for us. My mom wasn't as forthcoming, but I know she did what seemed right for me at the time. As moms we always backthink and guilt ourselves.

Libmomrn -- That's great, especially that message for your daughter. It does seem like there's a certain culture of possession and expectation among some teens. Good thing you've armed her (and your sons).

Karin -- I love parenting books. When you find a good one, they are worth their weight in gold because they tell us we are not alone, and that we have options. Sometimes it feels like we have none.

Lisa -- Now that's a party! I wonder what the cake would look like?

Cranky -- We all had those "preacher's kid" friends who were suffocated as teens and then went wild once the pillow was removed from their face.

Geezer -- I'll take a laugh. After living with teens, I deserve it!

Trilogy -- Yes, sex wasn't my scariest scenario. When you think of all the ways you child could get into trouble or killed, even an unplanned pregnancy doesn't seem so bad.

Lea -- I'm collecting wishbones. I hope I never need them.

Catnlion -- Oh my. I hope your son's girlfriend tells that story at their wedding reception! Now that would be a family legend.

Scanner -- I've heard (and believe) that grandchildren are just the most amazing creatures ever invented. I'm looking forward to that discovery, whenever it happens.

Vanessa -- I know your children are young and you have a while yet before you have to think about it. I know you'll handle things perfectly.
Having done the deed in a Karmann Ghia, I'm here to attest that nothing can prevent teenage rutting. But a parents has to do what a parent has to do -- which is lay out the truth about after birth, so to speak.

By the way, I think you might want to do a slight edit -- "One of my daughter's classmates committed suicide after failing to kick a heroine habit." Sick bastard that I am, I couldn't help but laugh.
I couldn't agree with you more. Perhaps it's because we're such a religious society, but it seems to me Americans are too hung up on sex/nudity as opposed to violence, anti-intellectualism, intolerance, you know, the important stuff. And don't even get me started on those puritanical, masturbation-is-evil-politicians. Can we just all agree that masturbation is the absolute safest sexual experience one can have.

Okay, it's a little creepy to tell your kid to masturbate, and I certainly wouldn't introduce the topic to my 8 yr/old daughter, but if she ever asks me about it, I certainly won't discourage the practice.
Oh, I got so involved in my thoughts I forgot to tell you this is a fine piece of writing, and the tone...pitch perfect.
You said it so well, especially that with a teen you have about a minute of their attention, small bites over and over. Long droning lectures are a waste of everyone's time. You're right about the promiscuity too, you're one smart lady.

Now that I'm in my 50's I have an inner peace about many of the things I did as a parent. My memory is fading and I don't remember all my mistakes so it worked out on my end. Thanks for the reminder and the smile.
Oh, Bell, I know my day will come soon, but for now, I'm closing my eyes and putting my hands over my ears and chanting very loudly. Please don't ever delete this post. I may be back.
All this worry about the sex life of teenagers is unhealthy. They can figure out how the pieces fit together. Gradually.
thanks for the rare sex positive post on here. or close as possible in our culture, anyway.
enjoyed the tone and content. smiled here and nodded there. such a well deserved EP.
I wish my mom's views are similar to yours... open minded with a sense of humor. I usually just let what my mom says pass through my ears in the past. But what really made me think was because of what my grandmother said (I'll never forget this since she used to say this while feeding our horses... all the time. heh!), "The most exciting things in life are usually the ones that are forbidden. It's up to you to eat the 'devil's apple' or not."

By the way, if you love horses, I heard from my grandmother that the products from Abler
Equine Pharmaceuticals are good. You might want to check it out also.
Looooved this.
I aas rapt from beginning to end. "People don't make babies on motorcycles" is coming to mind as a money maker for motorcyle companies.
But then parents don't want their kids to ride motorcylces either. The wishbone thing might be the best way to go.
Brava, Ms. Vance. You are a one talented mama.
The tone is perfect, as is the piece. I like the wishbone - a nice touch.
catnliar: "Out of my empty mind came the second dumbest thing I've ever said in my life. Nice Tits."

Get real idiot -- that's not the 2ND dumbest thing you've ever said. You beat that "quip" nearly every single day.


-R-
The work you did on yhis post definitely shows. Gtreat job. -R-
Haven't been on OS much lately, but saw you on the cover and knew it was a must read. My kids are 19 and 15. Haven't a clue about their sex lives, though my guess is the 19 year has taken a dip or two, the 15 year old, not yet. Loved your approach and attitude. So, so hard to know how to handle it with your own kids. Hard topic. I'm sure they prefer to think they were the product of immaculate conception, so how could I possibly know anything or offer any sage advice. The one thing I told my daughter before she started high school was, "Girls want to have sex to get close; guys want to get close have sex." Nuf said. I hope she took it to heart. Thanks for starting the day off right. r
As the mother of a thirteen-year-old boy, this was like getting my own private tablet from Moses. Only you're cuter. I NEED to know that it will be okay, even if I can't control the things I can't possibly control, no matter how well we brought him up thus far. And this:

"During their teendom, I often felt like I was performing the world's longest and least appreciated one-woman show, re-enacting the Death of Vaudeville, impersonating myself in cheesy variety acts, looking for the one that would return me to my former glory as the center of their universe -- a big-time star. They'd already moved on, replaced me with themselves, leaving me with my spinning plates and an old-fashioned magic routine."

That is my life. How did you know?!
So much fun to read! I'm the mother of 22 and 23 year old daughters and I appreciated so much your humor and intelligence.
rated
You are an absolutely wonderful writer. A real writer, I should add, whether or not you've ever gotten a nickel for any word you've written. I can still see you bouncing side-to-side in a gleeful dance with your classmate at the reunion and boring the others with the pictures of your kids - altho I doubt very seriously if any of them were bored.
Oh, I just don't want to think about it. (I used to sell an injectible birth control drug and was quite open in telling my son about visiting women's clinics where there were many pregnant high school and junior high girls visiting their doctors.) Very good post, BV. RRRRRRRRRRRRR
Lulu -- I bet you have some stories to tell.

Fusan -- You know I actually thought of you when I was writing this piece! I wondered about the differences between your parents' cultural views and the views of their adopted country. I have no doubt they and you had a difficult time of it.

Tom -- A spellcheck fail! But...maybe it was a "heroine" addiction that killed her.

Bluestocking -- Exactly right. I had to laugh because as I was reading your response I thought about how bringing up masturbation was a lot harder for me than bringing up intercourse. I wonder why? That doesn't make sense.

l'Heure -- Oh I tried both -- the short sentences and the long ones -- just hoping something would stick. I think you're right that the short, punchy statements over and over work the best.

Lucy -- I have no doubt that you will give your daughters exactly what they need when they need it.

DrWilliam -- Yes, but I think they need a little guidance too.

vzn -- It is difficult to read anything positive about teenage sexuality, probably because we (or parents) feel so protective of our children and we want the best for them, and we want others to see them in a positive (unsullied) light, that it's hard for us to even have conversations about our teens and their sexual activities.

Renatta -- Thanks for the compliment!

Elza -- Devil's Apple. Now that's a cool phrase for "sex." I'm going to start using that one.

Fernsy -- That would be a wonderful slogan for a motorcycle company! I'm viewing the ad in my head right now!

Ladyslipper -- I do have a thing for wishbones.

Cindy -- I'm sorry to hear of your migraine insomnia (which must be so much worse than mere insomnia!) but I'm glad you liked the piece.

Christine -- I appreciate that more than you know.

Denise -- It is a hard topic. I hate "going there" -- thinking of my children as sexual beings. Or I used to. It's gotten easier as they've grown older and have proven themselves capable of making good choices.

Annie -- I imagine you are much better at all of the Vaudeville routines than I am!! You'll do fine. Sam will do fine. I know it. You don't even need the wishbone.

Writerguy -- Thanks!! It's always good to see a new face in the comment section.

Kate -- Two daughters? Sigh. You know, yes you do.

Susan -- EXACTLY!! At that age keeping them alive seems so much more important than worrying about their purity.

Gabby Fox -- Thank you for reading! I'm glad you liked it.

Matt -- Just two nickels and not a penny more. You make me blush and want to be a better writer, when those complimentary words come from a writer such as yourself.

Bea -- I don't blame you for not wanting to think about it. I don't want to think about it. Now that I've done this post, I'm glad I won't have to think about it for a very long while....or until tomorrow when my daughter comes home from college for the weekend...with her boyfriend.
Hi Bell, I'm glad you like it! My grandmother likes that term. :) I hope to read more from your blogs, I love the way you write! I'll tell my mom to read your blog. :)
Look pervinjapan is back. Where have you been? Off on one of your Bangkok tours? Diddle anything good?
Sooooo good. And full of smarts.

".....last thing I wanted was wind up the main topic at their adulthood therapy sessions, blamed for their sexual dysfunction along with everything else I'm legitimately on the hook for." Brilliant!

Also loved the part about the vaudeville act. You are one cool mom. Your kids are lucky. Your friends are lucky.
Looks like I chose a great day to start catching up on your posts!

My then-future-father-in-law once invited me to the basement where he had me help load bullets. "Dad" is one of the nicest guys I know, so it probably wasn't his intent to scare me. I've never felt brave enough to ask, though.

My daughter is 5, and I don't own a gun, but I will definitely be loading bullets with her boyfriends, and I won't be as subtle as my father-in-law.

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This is why I have to check in with salon from time to time even when I don't have time to write or read in detail--your stuff hits the spot. Wise, funny, and enjoyable. You've done it again.
There's just one thing about you that bugs me...you just don't write frequently enough! I absolutely love your voice. It is wise and sensitive and funny. You're brilliant!!
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Fabulous, funny post, Bell -- you're a terrific writer.