1. Pearl Jam
Eddie Vedder and Pearl Jam started a movement of self-serious, white guy rock that has been dismal and morose and needlessly melodramatic. Because of Pearl Jam, we’ve been forced to listen to the likes of Creed, Puddle of Mudd, Staind, Three Doors Down and a slew of other slacken-face maudlinites.
2. John Wayne
John Wayne’s tough guy, all-American machismo set a "stoicism at all costs" tone for generations. Our fathers and grandfathers emulated him, starting a chain of emotionally constipated men who pride themselves in their ability to restrain, like good little cowboys.
3. Later Elton John
Later Elton John ruined it for ruined it for earlier Elton John. Later Robert Deniro ruined it for earlier Robert DeNiro and Later Al "Sir Screamsalot" Pacino ruined it for earlier Al Pacino.
4. People who say F#$k Too Much
Fuck is a fine, fine word. But it needs to be used judiciously, sparingly, not all willy-nilly. Use it only in times of extreme anger or hair-pulling sex or if you’re David Mamet.
5. Britney Spears and Christina Aguilara
Britney Spears and Christina Aguilara ruined it for sexiness worldwide. They taught a generation of women that being over-the-top tawdry was the only way to go. Their sell-out "sexiness" became amplified to a cartoonish, grotesque proportion, therefore negating its appeal. Madonna had way more going on.
6. Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie
Speaking of cartoonish sexiness, when you’re bombarded by images of these two, it’s like eating too many cream-filled donuts. Enough already - they’re preternaturally gorgeous. I find it kind of disturbing, frankly. I think they may be aliens.
7. Mickey Mouse
Evil corporate mouse ruined it for the rest of his cool cartoon counterparts (Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, The Peanuts gang, Pink Panther.)
8. The song “Stand by your Man”
While not a person, a person sang it and generations of women believed that undying loyalty in the face of blatant betrayal and massively unmet needs showcases their doormat-like stick-to-itiveness.
9. Oprah Winfrey
Her sanctimonious manner and mammoth-sized ego ruined it for the likes of talk show hosts everywhere. Oh for the simplicity and intelligence of Phil Donahue/ She also ruined it for a lot of simple housewives who used to have minds of their own. And maybe somehow indirectly spawned the likes of Tyra Banks, who makes me want to light my hair on fire.
10. Sarah McLachlin, et. al.
Ruined it for chick rock in a big way. After her, we had to listen to years of wimpy, weepy, and neutered chick bands with no backbone and no balls. I'm not saying they're all bad per se...they just perpetuated a certain "too softness." Listen to Tori Amos (who is no Kate Bush) then listen to Heart (videos below - and yes, I know Heart hit their sucky phase later on.)
11. Geico Lizard, Spuds McKenzie, et. al.
These corporate creatures ruin it for animals worldwide. As do all the people who say, “Our dog thinks he’s human.” “Our dog is like our baby.” No, your dog is an ANIMAL. Don't make them human. Don’t dress them up, don’t make them sell car insurance or cheap beer. Let them be animals and stop your needy projecting.
In short, it’s not cute when animals talk – it’s weird and unnatural. (Except for Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck. That’s different...somehow. And Snoopy. Wait. Snoopy didn’t talk. Neither did the Pink Panther. See?)
12. Radio Morning Shows
Radio morning shows have ruined radio. (So has Clear Channel but that’s a whole other entry.) All radio morning shows suck, across the board. All of them except for Howard Stern in his heyday (think what you want about the man but he was ground breaker.) Morning shows have contributed to the destruction of the radio, which is a tragic thing. The spirit of the radio has been dying for a long, long time.
13. The Sopranos
The Sopranos have ruined it for New Jersey. Now a bunch of wannabes go around, smoking their cigars in their big, fat cars, thinking their sexist, indulgent and tasteless lifestyle is actually cool…and it’s not.
(Listen to the two-minute intro. It's worth it when the song opens up.)
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Great intro, to an all time favorite. ;-) Seen them in the late seventies. I hate it when they play this on the oldies stations, though.
I blame her (Sarah M) for that painful commercial for Paradise Island, Bahamas where the dip-shit vocalist sings about swimming with dolphins in a voice that makes me want to slam her into a locker.
You from Jersey, like downa shore or sumpin?
Nevertheless, I'm a Creed fan. Rated.
I've been afraid to say too much about people and their doggone pets, but you did it comprehensively and with far more articulateness than I could. Good grief, there's some crazy stuff going on over animals. I really can't stand when the animals get more justice than humans.
I also like Cartouche's addition. To get the accolades, just spill your guts. The more dramatic or sick, the better. At least it's forcing people to read, though.
Great post on a Sunday morning.
and before the curtain, there was an announcement: "mr mamet has asked that we remind you to shut your fucking cell phones off."
it was pretty funny. but i cant agree about my boy eddie. even today he makes some lovely lovely songs. and the others are just sad wannabe's.
You could have added Kurt Cobain, IMHO, and all the legions he inspired who've made a Kult of Kurt and Courtney Love ... but that might just be a generational thing with me.
but...
I think John Wayne was playing a type that was already created in the Depression, he just personified a response for the times. He was quite the subtle actor, something I don't think he gets credit for.
Am I the only person in the world who finds Jolie weird looking? She looks more like a barbie doll than a real person to me. She's a great actress, I just don't find her beautiful.
I think she might be Satan.
#7. I'd add Rocky and Bullwinkle and Fritz the Cat.
#9. Brava! Let's not forget Oprah's role in foisting Dr Phil off on the public psyche. May merit a point of his own. Eternal repercussions there.
But Phil Donahue, that's another kettle of fish. He had ideas and principles and politics that went beyond the Self. He seemed as though he actually wanted to hear what audience members had to say — and be near enough to let them have a Brush with Greatness.
If only he'd done away with those prancing pirouttes to bring the mike to them.
#10. Lucinda Williams is (ironically) an effective detox regimen for some of us.
#13. There are human beings who consciously imitate The Sopranos???
(rated)
Although I take issue with your assessment of Pearl Jam. Their first three albums are classics. Besides, by your logic we should also hold Led Zepplin accountable for cruddy 80s hair bands like Whitesnake and Winger.
And...gag me...DO NOT even get me FUCKING started on women on the radio today....AGGGGGGHHHHH? Where are the Janis Joplin's of this generation? Or the Etta James? Or the Ella Fitzgeralds? I could go on and on.
Women of OS unite and raise your daughters to FUCKING rock the house!
rated for FUCKING excellence
(I used to get in trouble at PTA meetings a lot)
But...The thing I always found intersting about John Wayne was that he was always considered the great hero even though when the war broke out he got a deferment because he was married, and then got a divorce 6 months after V-J day. Some hero.
And...The thing about Mickey Mouse is that he was the first superstar animated character. No matter how hard anyone else tried they would always be held up in comparison. At the same time without Mickey there probably would not have been a Buggs or Tom and Jerry since Disney proved the profitability of cartoons. So to not like the Mouse is kind of a Catch 22.
As for Pearl Jam, sure they have a few good tunes. But they're no Zeppelin. Bands emulated Zeppelin because they had raw, sexual, rock and roll, bluesy strength. Pearl Jam...ugh, the music can just seem so full of itself. It just took the fun out of rock and roll.
And ocularnervosa, I hear what you're saying. Mickey came first. But since then, it's become this machine that's frightening and no longer inviting. If I saw some old Mickey Mouse, I'm sure I'd enjoy it (though Daffy is my personal fave of all cartoon characters - the wacky one, not the serious one.)
Over the top for me is the trend of idiot celebrities who dress dogs in dresses, fru fru attire and carry them in purses.
And for the record, the dogs you refer to in your click through belong to an someone I know - their names are Shelby and Souffle. And they are well trained and tolerant dogs who compete in rally etc. They also live completely content in a household with young children, several generations, and various other pets including a flying squirrel who recently passed away, a turtle (as in one of those things that walks around), birds, other dogs etc.
I also know those guys won some cool stuff for that halloween and the M makes all their costumes every year and it is serious business!
So, just saying.
I've loved westerns since I found a trunk loaded with Zane Grey books in an abandoned house walking home from elementary school, somewhere around 1959 or 1960. I never miss a new western movie that's released, but I detest every John Wayne western made, but one, "The Shootist."
And I'm with you on the whiney singers. Music with fire in it, especially those that, as your You Tube does so well, build up to an explosion of sound For me it's rock from the late sixites, early seventies - Iron Butterly, Steppenwolf, Deep Purple, The Stones, The Doors, The Supremes, Santana, CCR, Led Zeppelin.
Now there's rock
Thumbed for a great list
2) How dare you! He's an Icon.
3) He had his day and now is taking over in the charicature department for Liberace.
4) What are you fucking talking about. Hair pulling? My, my ....
5) Talk about useless. Would they could simply disappear.
6) Beautiful people are bad enough, but Neurotic, crazy, beautiful people?
7) Back off! He makes a great fucking Watch.
8) If I had enough idle cash, I'd have rented a panel van with speakers and followed Hillary Clinton around NH blaring that song and handing out home baked cookies during her presidential run.
9) She needs to go away, that over exposed, yo-yo dieting pain in the ass.
10) Chick rock is chick rock. Kind of like Rock-a-billy from the 70s/80s.
11) I'll take mascot animals over precocious kids any day. Except for the baby doing the e-trades. He's a riot.
12) Early Imus rocked until such time as his trophy wife got him hooked on organic food and he lost his edge after the Basketball snafu.
13) That's always been a case of art imitating life. They always existed, they just weren't validated before.
I like Eddie Vedder and Sarah McLachlin, I've never seen the Sopranos, I don't care for Oprah's earnest schtick but find her harmless and too easy a target, and I don't think people say fuck enough.
I can't resist sending everybody to a post I wrote last fall about Phil Donahue (a crowd favorite, it seems) and his film A BODY OF WAR. It's the only post I ever promote, b/c I met Mr. Donahue and told him I'd write about his film on Open Salon. You'll find Vedder there, too, because he wrote the moving song featured in Donahue's film. That's why I like Vedder, btw. Thanks for the opportunity to plug!
Kudos to the post about Oprah unleashing Dr. Phil on the world!
#1- I actually like Eddie Vedder's voice, & some of Pearl Jam's music. I also like Puddle of Mudd-- "Come Clean" is a good album. I agree about all the other groups though.
#2- Heh, my stoic dad did emulate John Wayne! I wonder if that's why we had trouble getting along...
#3- Oh, Hell Yeah, 100%! So sad when a great songwriter & musician just collapses under the weight of his own ego.
#4- F***ing A, lol. I think that South Park episode with the profanity counter finally cured me.
#5- Yeah, Brit & XTina wore out their welcome with me too, years ago. "Slutty" is not a good or practical look for your young female fans (like my niece) to imitate.
#6- Brangelina photos are inescapable. Even if this couple moved (back) to Mars, people would follow them there & take pictures for the tabloids. And she really does need to quit with the tattoos already.
#7- Agreed, but he was my first wristwatch, lol. I'm a Bugs fan too.
#8- I'm often tired of that song. Best version of it is when the Blues Brothers sing it at Bob's Country Bunker in their movie.
#9- Although Oprah is everywhere, I am managing to avoid her. So far. I miss Phil Donahue too.
#10- Agreed. I got tired of whiny chick rock years ago too. I have a Fiona Apple album that I never listen to any more. But I gotta say that I do love Sarah McLachlan's song in the Toy Story 2 movie, "When She Loved Me". Turns me into a weepy chick every time I hear it (but not a whiny one!).
#11- Aha, you forgot about the Budweiser Frogs! Yeah, 100% agree with this one. Animals are NOT people, people!!!
#12- I miss Howard Stern sooo much. Back when I was commuting to work, his show always made me laugh. Everyone else's shows seemed so boring in comparison. Wish I could afford satellite radio so I can listen to Stern again...
#13- True. I stopped watching The Sopranos when they bumped Adriana off. Much as I liked Carmela & Janice, even they couldn't make up for all the sexist crap going on after that.
Thanks again for this list, Beth! : D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oxcC18xE4Y&feature=quicklist
A few of these folks were victimized by and endless slew of pretenders, causing us to overdose on their originality. Others became victims of their own success, morphing into something sappily commercialized and unrecognizable. A few specific call outs:
The Duke – He was hardly the 1st in along line of tall dark and silent types; the antithesis of Jimmy Stewart.
Elton John – He jumped the shark somewhere between “Bennie & the Jets”, and his re-release of “Candle in the Wind”.
Mickey Mouse – Other than the sorcerer’s apprentice, I think Mickey is over rated. Bugs, The Pink Panther and Snoopy exude way more coolness.
Oprah – Her “Feel my Pain” style of talk show hosting has grown trite.
Sarah McLachlin et al – In small doses, we can deal with Sarah and her ilk. What’s missing is the hard edge counterbalance (i.e. Alanis Morissette). Avril Lavigne seemed promising, but hasn’t evolved beyond her Skater Boy shtick
Talking animal commercials – I say we trash them all, except for the beggin’ strips dog. “I’d open it myself, but I don’t have thumbs”, is hysterical.
Morning Radio – I agree with Mamoore; other than NPR, there’s not much out there.
You champion a guy who is playing to an audience sitting at his feet and backed up by a string section and choir.
I place the blame squarely on the shoulders of Kansas.
The emotional stoicism of two generations of men is John Wayne's fault as if he was the first iconic American hero who didn't skip, weep, hold hands, or drink tea?
Please.
But, 12/13 is a great percentage, therefore RATED.
But being a big Pearl Jam fan, I think one of your comments above contradicted your logic. If you think Pearl Jam is a Led Zeppelin wannabe, then isn't *Led Zeppelin* the one who ruined it for everyone? I mean ... Led Zeppelin gave us Whitesnake! Does Creed look that bad to you now? =)
1) I’m so sick of sad suburbia boys I could gouge my eyes out with their guy liner.
2) I must respectfully disagree. John Wayne is the hero figure of many men in my family. My dad and his brothers all love John Wayne and they are some of the kindest and most open men I have ever met in my life. He’s one of my heroes too but I tend to be an overly emotional wreck. Go figure.
3) Love him. Needs to stop.
4) Guilty. Excuse me, fucking guilty. It’s my favorite. My 2nd is c***sucker.
5) Pedophelia masturbatory material masquerading as teen entertainment.
6) I’m so GD sick of do-gooder celebrities. I’ll take that batshit f-up Lindsay any day.
7) Never liked him. My peeve is adults who wear Disney clothing. If you are over the age of 10 there is no excuse for having a cartoon mouse on your shirt/pants/jacket.
8) It was co-written by a man.
9) You mean she’s not God? I once bought a book that had her sticker on it (not because she told me to, I just happened to want to read it) and I was so ashamed I scratched it off before I even paid for it.
10) She used to be cool. Then again, so did Liz Phair. Remember in the ‘90’s when women songwriters could be scathing and ironic and sexual without being “sexy”? Now any chick who can rhyme “moon” and “spoon” calls herself a singer/songwriter.
11) The Bush’s Baked Beans dog is kind of awesome.
12) They should be set on fire. I can't stand talking of any kind in the morning. Unless Dean Martin was waking me up that is.
13) So right. The first time I heard someone say "fuggedaboutit" I thought they had a speech impediment. Then again they were Italian, so they kind of did. Bada bing!
I guess my point is: somewhere in history, we started emulating and exalting these emotionally repressed men a little too much. Or they simply reflected us, as another fine commentator pointed out.
It just seems strange to me. I'll ask some of my male friends the last time they cried and some of them reply in years! Somewhere along the line, men have been taught to "buck up" a little too much, so I'm arbitrarily blaming it on John Wayne.
Can't somebody hang up on heroin who doesn't suck?
@Ron from Vancouver
Christ Almighty, talk about arrogance. Where's your list then? And if you're tired of reading "dumb lists" then why would you go into a post that is so obviously a list. Maybe you should go back to Vancouver and write your own list on all the cool ways to feign boredom.
There, I said it! List! Fucking List! Fucking wonderful fucking list!
HA!
Tattoos.
She looks as though she's been run through a printing press. Just about every bad decision she's made has been captured for life, including the Billy Bob decision.
My daughter received one of the "tramp stamp" tattoos in the small of her back. She didn't like it, so sought another BIGGER one to obliterate it. Laser removeal is nasty and expensive. And if she ever gives birth, she will possibly be denied an epidural.
Top marks to whoever popularized this "art form" in the first place.
I was agreeing with you right up to #10. Mostly because Sarah McLachlin has never pretended to be anything other than another wimpy singer-songwriter. The only thing she's guilty of is having a hit, and having a million other recording artist jump back on that bandwagon. You may as well blame the 60's for both her and Pearl Jam. It would make more sense.
Rated, naturally.
I'd agree with you about Oprah for Dr. Phil the pill alone.
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what do 1-3, 5-7, and 9-13 have in common? They're all a hell of a lot richer than all of us! (or they've made people richer than all of us)
good call about the dogs though. Dogs ain't people. Animals are not humans.
But as a "total creep" guy, I certainly can't complain about Britney Spears being photographed in public not wearing any underwear. (Sorry, but I'm one of the few men who admits it publicly - don't think I'm the only one who feels that way.) But I understand that you would. Otherwise, good job!
It's not because I'm a female that I don't like it, it's because, as I stated, there's this over-the-topness gratuity that stops seeming sexy to me. It seems more desperate, as if to say, "I'll do anything it takes to get more attention." And you're one of the spectators. You're just doing your job.
And Edgar, I don't hate any of these people. They just annoy me. This list is meant to be tongue-in-cheek. (I don't really think John Wayne created all the emotional ills of men, for instance. I think it was the rock band Kansas, truthfully.)
As for the fact that many of the people mentioned are wealthier, so what? They can't annoy me? You must really worship the money god. Is your point that people who make more money are somehow better or superior? Shite, we're all in trouble then! Perhaps I should I be a good little poor girl and be quiet.
...right heah!
1. Pearl Jam's my favorite band, but oddly enough, I agree with the Spawn of Satan moaning here. Was there a worse rock band in the 90's apart from Creed? Third Eye Blind, maybe? Eve 6? Hanson? Close, but no cigar.
Nonetheless, I think even given the mopey tones of a few tracks on the first two albums that we're still comparing apples and oranges (what we nerds call a "category error"). It's the same as if you wrote, as some very well may have, that Pac was the ultimate source for the likes of Lil Wayne and Soulja Boy.
Besides, the bands you all mentioned have been relatively dead in the water for a while. Emo is still alive and well on Planet Earth, and I point the finger with a hearty j'accuse at Green Day and Sunny Day Real Estate for that mess (but not Weezer, like everyone else is wont to do).
2.-13. I don't think John Wayne forged a generation of robots out of our grandparents; World War II and the Great Depression did. And no, I'm not talking out of my ass. I heard (several times too many) the stories my grandfather told from those two horrific eras for men. Once you go through at least one of those, you're shellshocked for life. Try both. Wayne didn't forge a generation - a generation forged Wayne.
Pretty much agree with everything up until Tori (lol'd at the perhaps [?] unintentional "amplfied to a cartoonish, grotesque proportion" bit for Britney Spears) but come on, Tori Amos? There's another mistake. Tori taps a well of pain, however overdramatized it is. Sarah knows what chords to play and tone to sing to make people sad and donate money to animal shelters (we really ought to do a bit more of that anyway, come to think of it).
Love the Wilsons jamming it out to Zep - ironically, that track appears right in the center of the iconic soundtrack of the grunge movement you so decry ;)
The second Darren Stevens ruined it for the first Darren Stevens.
"I don't think John Wayne forged a generation of robots out of our grandparents; World War II and the Great Depression did. And no, I'm not talking out of my ass. I heard (several times too many) the stories my grandfather told from those two horrific eras for men. Once you go through at least one of those, you're shell shocked for life. Try both. Wayne didn't forge a generation - a generation forged Wayne."
I'm glad Led Zep ruined it for everyone else. Try to imagine a world without them. And you can put Pink Floyd right next to them. Both make all the others sound like girly-whiners: "But WHY did you guys have to be so GOOOOD????"
#5? Nah, they were just the latest in pre-packaged NOTHING. You could go back to New Kids for that, or maybe even earlier (Menudo?). BTW, I had the "$1M idea", but it came just a bit too late. I was going to market a line of condoms called "NO Kids on The Block", but by then, they were already heading downhill.
Tom Hanks & Morgan Freeman. Even their "bombs" are better than most people's best work.
All for now.
Someone like the commenter above. And pretty much most of the avatar-less people. I leave their comments up because it's a democracy here, in my opinion.
Speaking of the commenter above, the reason I didn't use Hitler or Nixon is because it's a silly, silly list I constructed based on randomness and this thing you might want to buy at your local drug store called "humor." Take 6 pills and call me in the morning.
And I don't HAVE to like Pearl Jam just because they've done good for the earth. That's ridiculous. I don't HAVE to like Mother Teresa, if I so desire. What bizarre rationale.
Besides, I said very little about them musically. I simply implied that I'd like to put a big, red nose on Eddie Vedder during one of his concerts, that's all. Or those sproingy eyeball glasses. To lighten things up a little.
I wanted to do it to Bono when he was getting all serious on my ass too.
Hm.
This list is funny. But comedy is like sex, everyone approaches it differently and they all think their way is best. So if some sad, suburban dad gets his Dockers in a bunch because you insulted his favorite "band" then he doesn't have to keep reading, now does he?
But if some anonymous dude is so moved by Pearl Jam--the store-brand vanilla extract of boring rock acts--that he felt compelled to insult you on your blog then he is living a very tiny life indeed. But then, does it really surprise you that rabid Pearl Jam fans have no sense of humor?
"...Writes amazing music that speaks about faith and our unity as humans..."?
Christ.
White people.
Beth, get ahold of yourself and don't let the white people get you down.
So true, so true.
I was also a huge early-Elton fan. Over-the-top huge fan, and when the late Elton emerged I was really let down because all the people who ever doubted themselves for putting me down for being an early Elton fan all of a sudden felt so smug about it all.
Pearl Jam never ruined it for me, though. I heard where they were coming from early on and turned away, thus sparing myself from having ever had to listen to any of the other bands you named in #1.
Rated
Heart fought the many male bands mostly alone. What a frickin' voice.
OK, go crazy on me if you must... but I'm frightened.
A lot of things wrong and agree with most.
Many we created ourselves...or cartoons of ourselves or what how we like to see ourselves.
2. The Duke was never my cup of tea. As far as strong silent types, I'll take Gary Cooper over him any day of the week. I never cottoned to his jingoistic machismo when there were any number of celluloid heroes with more noble records during WWII.
3. Though he showed a great knack for melody and hooks, early Elton John was still kind of hit and miss. For every Grey Seal or Burn Down the Mission, there was a Daniel or Your Song. But after the mid-'70s, it was all dreck.
4. Agreed. It's an f-bomb not a carpet bomb.
5. I concur though I think Madonna led them to it. She was never coy enough to be sexy to me and I never respected her "talent."
6. These two attention whores don't interest me in the slightest. He seems like an odiferous and vainglorious dandy and she's just out and out creepy. I think I'm the only male I know who finds her kind of repulsive.
7. Never gave a damn about Mickey or his Disney compadres. The Warner Brothers crew blew them away.
8. I don't care about it one way or another. Just another song I won't be caught listening to.
9. Incoming! "Oprah. Shut...the...FUCK...up...already!"
10. Candelabras don't make you important, just melodramatic...or you're Liberace.
11. In some ways, they're more human than Dick Cheney.
12. A thousand times, "yes." That's why God invented iPods.
13. Those "wannabes" are actually the punch line.
the message sent out?...firstly, oprah is the MOST caring, sensitive person in the world - EVER...and oh yeah..the holocaust really was kinda awful
and you're right about daffy..he's hands down the best cartoon character ever created and that's why lewis black shamelessly stole his entire act!
("your mother on wheat" is the best tag ever)
Also! No avatar people who sign up just to be snotty and "tsk" you , seriously, over a HUMOR PIECE are cunts! It's true!
Have a nice day, funny lady!
"If you want to add value to a public forum...etc"..
Wotta cunt! And I am so looking forward to their hardhitting and socially valuable humor pieces.
I'll just go make some tea whilst I wait.
I strongly suggest that you un-screw your head from your shoulders and immediately repair whatever of bat shit wiring job you got going on in your brain.
I don’t ever recall Pearl Jam signing Creed to a recording contract or putting them on the radio or MTV? Did I miss something?
Perhaps you are new to this whole Rock’n’Roll dealio…but this kind of plastic imitation has been going on since the very beginning; This is hardly exclusive to Pearl Jam. Just ask Sonic Youth and The Pixies sometime about what they REALLY THINK about 99.9% of Inde-Rock.
Besides, there have been many GREAT BANDS influenced by Pearl Jam such as Ben Harper, My Morning Jacket, The Strokes, and Kings of Leon -just to name a few-
You must really hate Radiohead if you think Pearl Jam is takes itself too serious, or is too dismal, morose, or needlessly melodramatic
Anyways…This kind of half-bright logic will only get you into trouble and destroy your credibility. You wouldn’t want your friends and colleagues to start thinking that you are some kind of babbling wino or hopeless dope fiend would you?
For Christ’s Sake…Get control of yourself Beth... before its too late.
So, you realized that 13 is bad luck and a demon number, right? ;-D
It generally refers to the taking down or insulting of those more famous/rich/popular/loved than one's self.
You are a player hater.
We've got generations of people who think Madonna is sexy, Howard Stern is smart, Bill O'Reilly is a commentator.
We've got generations of Americans who can't write, can't think, can't read, can't feel a serious emotion.
We need to pull the plug.
Sort of like walking barefoot through the park when suddenly *SQUISH* - dogshit.
Some folks need to invest in a sense of humor, ya know?
What's next, a list of your favorite flavored Caffee Latte?
or did Starbucks ruin coffee as well?
I didn't say that these people should die and burn in hell. I just made some pointed commentary about their work and their messages. I have every right to. You just did it to me without a moment's hesitation. With much more vile, mean-spirited and hateful energy.
And since when did volunteerism mean that I have to like people and their work? More of that bizarre rationale.
And Edgar, I'm not a playa hater or a player hater or anything other of your labels. I'm a good, lovin' lady...but you're starting to get on my nerves.
To the rest of you self-righteous, anonymous sorts, know that I have the choice to delete your comments. But I don't. Because I believe this is a public forum and you have the right.
With that said, I'm turning the comments off. Many of the last batch of comments were no longer helpful and some just plain weird. The healthy discussion ended a long time ago.
It's a tongue-in-cheek random, silly list. I'm sure Eddie Vedder will sleep fine tonite. Oprah will never know. And Mother Teresa is safe in the heavens.
Bottom line: some of you are seriously lacking in a sense of humor and being spiteful and silly. I'm guessing you have female issues, at the Heart of it (see the Heart tie-in? Smooth.)
Get Thee to a Funnery.
So lastly...Number 14? You lurkers and over-reactionary types ruined it for everyone else.
Thank you and good night.
And Lainey...let's start a campaign to make our rallying cry: "Don't let the white people get you down!".