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big fat trauma queen

big fat trauma queen
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November 08
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Defying Gravity
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Wicked
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I, like millions of others, am a refugee from some fairly gruesome childhood happenings. I entered adulthood as a selectively mute, unwashed, suicidal, friendless, uneducated, delusional, and sick-fat (as opposed to healthy-fat) young woman. I have been homeless in the Tenderloin (I am prouder of that than I am of my master's degree), and I have spent years in self-imposed solitary confinement. No more. I have morphed over the years into an irritatingly chipper and hyper-friendly Trauma Queen. If you're having a bad day, don't even look at me; my happy little face will just piss you off. This blog is dedicated to all the other Trauma Queens and Kings out there - we of the shrunken hippocampus and the hair-trigger amygdala. We who, in D.H. Lawrence's words, have "passed through the waters of oblivion." But let's not just pass through. Let's make a TSUNAMI...

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FEBRUARY 22, 2010 3:17PM

MY SON LOST HIS VIRGINITY!!!!

Rate: 44 Flag

Kidding - I don't have a son. 

Got your attention though, didn't I?

I'm glad, because I want to share this poem with you:

My daughter spreads her legs

to find her vagina:

hairless, this mistaken

bit of nomenclature

is what a stranger cannot touch

without her yelling. She demands

to see mine and momentarily

we're a lopsided star

among the spilled toys,

my prodigious scallops

exposed to her neat cameo.

And yet the same glazed

tunnel, layered sequences.

She is three; that makes this

innocent. We're pink!

she shrieks, and bounds off.


Every month she wants

to know where it hurts

and what the wrinkled string means

between my legs. This is good blood

I say, but that's wrong, too.

How to tell her that it's what makes us--

black mother, cream child.

That we're in the pink

and the pink's in us.

 

I wish I could claim authorship to that poem, but I can’t. It was written by the pulitzer prize winning poet Rita Dove. She published it with both her face and her name when her daughter, Aviva, was four years old. 

Since then, this poem has been available in libraries and bookstores all over the United States and Europe. Ms. Dove has also read this poem on television programs that were broadcast all over the world.

"My daughter spreads her legs to find her vagina, hairless..."

Yesterday, I posted a blog about my daughter's first menstrual period. You'd have thought I sold her to sex traffickers. 

Ironically, the flood of negative comments drew much more attention to the post than it would  have received otherwise. Actually - I only expected some of my "regulars" to read the post, or comment. 

I think my daughter is so beautiful, and I am so proud of her. That's why I posted her photo. Big Mistake. Apparently, according to one commenter,  "...there is no such thing... as a non-porn picture of a little girl." Sigh. I didn't tell her I took  her photo down. I would hate for her to think of herself as pedophile bait. She's so open and joyful and free -and those are  qualities of strength that will always help her move safely in the world. 

Here are excerpts from some of the  comments made on my blog yesterday, demanding that I delete the post (you can read them in their full context on the previous page).

"...I'm about *this* close to flagging this post, just to protect YOUR daughter from YOU. "

"...You have voices in here imploring you to pull your head out of your ass. Voices who rarely, if ever, agree.
When does your arrogance take a break and let your brain take over?"

"Please Protect your DAUGHTER and take this post down NOW. "

"Flagged for sexual exploitation of a minor. You should be ashamed of yourself. "

"This is a first for me. I have never flagged a post since I joined OS. It really makes me feel sad for the child involved that her mother just doesn't get it. "

"...Apparently this mother is more thrilled with her role as a blogger than she is in her role as a mother bear protecting her child against any and all threats - real or imagined." (my bold)

"I think your post is an invasion of her privacy. My friends in Europe, South America and Central America agree. God only knows how many perverts have saved your little girl's photo!
Shame on you!"

"That the mother leaves it up after ten hoursafter people began noticing and asking her to think of her child first, second and third....pretty much says it all. "

"If my ex posted this about my daughter I would haul her ass over coals"

"You are refusing to take the post down and don't have a clue about appropriate boundaries."

During the time when most of these comments were posted, I was out with my daughter and one of her friends. I had taken them to get  pizza and ice cream, after which we came home and watched The Simpson's movie.

I had no idea so many people were screaming at me to delete my post - especially after I'd taken down my daughter's (precious, adorable) photo. 

But this is America, and public floggings are a long-cherished tradition. They have always been an  effective form of social control and censorship.

I know, I know. The angry commenters "care" about my daughter - in the same way right-to-lifers "care" about unborn babies: In the abstract.  Somehow, that fails to touch my heart.

The escalating hysteria over my apparent refusal to give in to the commenters' demands did not feel at all related to concern for my child. 

Actually, the commenters frightened me. Well-meaning people who KNOW they are right can be extremely dangerous. Which is why I chose to hide my face and city. (Big Fat Trauma Queen is not my real name, but some commenters seemed a bit confused on that point). 

I have learned so much from this experience. And I will use it as a life lesson for my powerful, glorious girl.

You see, my daughter is not a shrinking violet. Someday, she will say or do something that she deeply believes in, and people will attack her for it. They will probably attack her in cowardly ways - anonymously, or as part of a mob.

That's when  I will show her the comments from all of those people who care so much about her.  I will tell her that it hurts to have people try to tear you down when you won't pretend to agree with them, or won't live your life the way they want you to.

But I will tell her that it hurts much more to deny your truth in exchange for acceptance and approval.

At the end of the day, it's ourselves we have to live with.

 

 

 

 

 

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"Well-meaning people who KNOW they are right can be extremely dangerous." I was stunned by the comments on your prior blog. I wish my mother had been more like you.
I about pissed myself laughing when I read the title of this. :)

That poem is wonderful. And you are correct, WE are the one we have to live with.
Yay for creating a controversy! The best controversies are created by accident. That's because the writer / speaker really believes in what s/he says and isn't trying to shock. When what we are, in our essence, can shock, we know we have spoken one of our truths. Congratulations!
I think you posted it all with the best of intentions. And there was nothing pornographic about it.

I'm glad to see that you removed the identifying info and photos, though, at least till she's older. Not so much because of internet predators, but because kids can be really cruel, and at 10 years old, she doesn't quite realize yet what she might be getting herself into having that kind of information out on the internet.
Beautiful poem; so glad to hear your final word on the "goings on."
Periods bring about a lot of tension for many females.
Unfortunately, I had just taken a nice long swig of Coca Cola when I saw your headline. I laughed long, and I laughed heartily. You've followed up your previous post with an exceptionally provocative message: "But I will tell her that it hurts much more to deny your truth in exchange for acceptance and approval. At the end of the day, it's ourselves we have to live with."

Whether we agree or disagree with your stance, the wiser among us will certainly see your wisdom, your dedication, your courage. -r-
You're a cool chick, BFTQ. I am however dissapointed that that is not your real name.
Glad you learned a lesson. I did too.
Sorry that you had to experience that strange vulture madness.
Hilarious title for the new post. So glad you are back and rearing to go.
Reading a poem aloud anywhere is a whole lot different than posting her daughter's picture on the Internet with said material.
Well done, BFTQ, well done.
Wow, you've got backbone; good for you.

While I would not have posted the photo, myself, I was stunned at the vitriol that was spewed at you.
The whole thing was extraordinary. I wouldn't have been happy if my mother had posted my first period on the internet! But watching the mob gather was eye opening.
I missed the bru-ha-ha but came to say one thing: it's damn near impossible to raise a feminist if you aren't good with periods or other normal parts of being a woman.

rated.
Kudos to you. I found nothing wrong with the last post by the time I got to it; glad to see this response.
The gathering storm was indeed quite an eye opener. Late last night the level of human interaction of commentating hit (in my opinion) an all-time low.

It was a war of egos that had nothing to do with protecting children. I don't buy that it was for a second. Unfortunately it engaged a very ugly side of OS. One I will no further participate in.

I'm glad your daughter was no where near this place or cyber space.
Handled beautifully. The poem is exquisite. Man we have all becomne so afraid and ridiculous at times.
Great post
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I commend you for standing up to your principles BFTQ. The mob mentality is only as strong as its numbers; but it takes far more courage and stamina to stand by your own personal convictions. You were attacked by the self-righteous mentality which overrides innocence (making a mockery of what's natural and beautiful) in the minds of those who are twisted in the first place. They took advantage of your blog to vent their own venom - it has nothing to do with you.
Rated.
You are a brave warrior mama!!! Your daughter will do just fine, for sure!
@Bonnie Russell: I like your posts and respect you- but with regards to this issue, please:
I be lovin me some Fusun Today.
FusunA: With utmost respect, you closed comments on your post on this topic, and now you are telling others that they cannot comment on this one unless they share your opinion. That doesn't seem fair.
@Emma Peel: I was hoping that a lesson was learned by all from yesterday's unfortunate event, and that there would be no recurrence by Ms Russell's provocative comment. BFTQ has no obligation to reply to such a condescending comment. That's all. This has nothing to do with anyone agreeing or disagreeing with me. In other words, I'm trying to prevent another major train wreck. I don't intend to invade BFTQ's space any more than I have already, unintentionally.
I'm so sorry that so many people are so ignorant in this world. What a wonderful thing for a mother and daughter to be happy about the one thing that does make us know we are turning into women! I read "Shame on You for violating a Blogger's space on Open Salon " by FusunA and was just shocked! Congrats to your daughter and her happy free self!
Rita Dove is one of my sheroes! Fantastic post! Thank you for "getting our attention" today! SHE deserves more attention, too!
And thank you FusunA for supporting our dear BFTQ the way you have!
hey - What happened yesterday was Incandescent and New Buddha Fun taking over the comments and just making a playground for themselves.
Let's not lose sight of THAT part of the disaster.

BFTQ - This is a wonderful response and, y'know, a great point for discussions. I thank you for seeing your own points clearly, even though.... I wish you would take down that post.

At this point, I wish you would delete it because it is the worst of OS.
I still think you went too far, I still think you're a brilliant writer, I still want to see you around and hope you feel the same.

That's it! Unless you want to meet my Great - great-great - great Grandfather. He is pretty cool - I would love for you to stop by.
Most people objected to the posting of a young girl's photograph, complete with mother's photograph and location, NOT the subject matter. I think that fact has been lost in all the finger pointing and name calling. Things got a bit too heated, especially when a known provocateur showed up, but the intent of the majority of commentators on the original blog post was to highlight the danger of that particular act. The idea that it was about the subject matter is simply not true. That's my last word on this subject.
I stumbled upon this thru Fusun's post and had to do the back reading. I admit to only reading a few of the comments (because I generally detest 90% of commentators' vitriolic spew) but I found I disagreed with the haters.

You are a strong and healthy mom, more so than the majority of moms out there, certainly more so than mine and she was pretty good (eventually).

I feel you've done the right thing in celebrating this moment in your daughter's transformation. You are celebrating not only the onset of your daughter's menses but also the high quality relationship you have, the latter being by far the most significant, imho.

Anyone with lesser parent-child relationships should be envious and, frankly, that envy may be what stirred the hornets' nest. Many Americans have a hard time seeing their "competitors" succeed, in any field.

Good luck to you and yours. May the rest of her puberty be this joyful.
I don't understand why those who don't like what you wrote insist on reading it, then following to read more. Stalking is an indication of psychosis; so is self-hatred. Open means open, not open except for things that disturb you. Nice post. Rated.
Just because something has been published and/or read on national television doesn't make it a Pulitzer Prize winner. I am proud to be a woman. Would do it again if given the choice in my next life. The poem does nothing to establish the character of women as strong, independent, viable human beings. I see it as another attempt to set us apart and claim "we're different." Having a vagina does not make me more or less a decent human beings any more than having a penis makes a man superior. But -- that's just my opinion and I'm hoping I expressed it with dignity, which is vital if our society is to survive.

As to yesterday, I fear many of the comments were misunderstood and intentionally dissected for personal gain by some people with less than honorable intentions. I found no fault with the well meaning women who thought only to protect an innocent child. My thoughts are much less charitable for the man who attempted to hijack the post and turn it into a forum for his own emotional shortfalls. If I an upset about anything, it was the unwillingness of so many to walk away from futile discussion and instead kept refueling the fire by responding to such an obviously deluded person.

In the end, there is no greater career than than to be responsible for the formation, care and protection of another human being. If we can each look ourselves in the mirror and say we did the best we could, than no sleep will be lost. But just like there are levels of quality to the products we buy, there are levels of parenting.
I read the previous post and related comments. Some agreed. Some respectfully disagreed. Some disagreed in a disagreeable manner disagreeable. I commend you for sticking to your personal values and having the grace not to be sucked into an ugly war of words with those who chose to be less than cordial.

My father in law lives in a high crime area in south central LA. Yet, he strolls about the neighborhood, day or night, as if he lived in a Stepford community. He has no intention of moving. Crime reports do not concern him. Even getting shot in the leg during an attempted robbery did not dampen his resolve to remain in the area, or cause him to change his personal habits. I admire the man for being at peace with the world around him in spite of the potential danger. He chooses to focus on the 90% of the population, who are well intentioned individuals, rather than the 10% that may be up to no good.

Fear can be a dangerous thing, as evidenced by how our country has changed in the aftermath of 9/11. Aside from that, we’ve reserved special concern for the safety of our children. As an example, some youth sports teams refrain from putting children’s names on their uniforms, to protect them from being lured away by a potential predator.

I’m glad you removed the picture of your daughter from your post. I’m certain you would not want it to become masturbation material for some pervert, or for some sick-o to become obsessed with finding her. Neither of these things may have actually come to pass, but I personally feel better that you decided to err on the side of caution.
I sat back and watched the people of OS start out by giving opinions. It ended up with people insulting each other. There is a place for proper discourse, but I think you should use your own site if you are going to insult someone. I think BFTQ started out writing a wonderful piece about something that is just as natural as child birth. I did not see the picture, so I can't comment. But I don't think she had any harm in her heart when she wrote this. I do hope it's over and thank Fusun for her well-meaning post. As my man sheepdog said, this is OPEN SALON!
I think we all know... a provocateur cannot operate in isolation ...
I was wondering when you were going to post something like this to be the polar opposite of what was posted yesterday. I was just waiting. Thanks for posting, and in this case there are really no wrongs, and no rights in the entire situation.
NBF says: 'The molester cannot manifest as a ghost and enter your house...they have to have access. Any good mother or parent would never make their child available for that access. The Defense Rests.'

my only concern was for the child. not in the abstract, but as reality. i support a mother/daughter celebrating the start of a period. it is good. it is a part of living life as a girl/woman. but to pretend or deny that bad things happen to good people is not practical. between the picture and the location of the town, it would not be hard for someone with less than honorable intentions to carry out something like this:

On June 5, 2002, 14-year-old Elizabeth Smart was taken from her bedroom in Salt Lake City.

i lost my daughter after a 5 yr battle with leukemia. she was dx'd at 14 and passed at 19. the loss of a child has been called the greatest loss of all and it barely covers it.

why take the chance? it has nothing to do with celebrating life, or being free or taking a stand. it has to do with protecting a little one.
As a male, I find this entire thing insane. Thank god I don't actually have to have an opinion.

I was hoping for a really good story about your son getting laid. That sounds interesting. Maybe you should make one up. For fiction friday.
Damn, seems I missed a lot while I was sleeping. Oh well. Guess I need to stay awake more.

:)
"Oh Mom...I hate when you call me that! I'm all grown up now...see... (pointing to full erection in pants)." New Buddha Fun

Please, someone, inform me how THAT leads to any sort of rational conversation.
And, y'know, I have an OPEN blog for anything anyone wants to say about this.
Let's never lose sight of what two people can do to bring down the morale and the integrity of OS.
(Bring it on. Heh.)
I haven't been around OS for a while, and had to check out the big controversy. It turned out to be (in my estimation) a tempest in a teapot, stirred up by a bunch of pushy, self-righteous, sanctimonious and obviously hysterical people who have nothing better to do than try and impress others with their unlimited quantities of hot and vacuous air.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with your original post BFTQ, unless of course being truthful and open (as in OPEN Salon) is not allowed.

I'm with you all the way on this one.

Oh, good post above btw.
Sorry I'm late, had a bad night, I was sick to my stomach and took sleeping pills for the first time ever.

This makes me proud to be on OS. Thank you BFTQ, what Just Cathy said, and thank you Just Cathy.
And thank you, LadyMiko.

Thank you, Fusun, for your class and integrity, I know you don't need it, but praise is warranted and well deserved.

Thank you scanner, you da man.

Thank you Robin Sneed, KyleKydman and aim.

Thank you everyone for your kindness.

Thank you to the 3 C Tribe--I don't mean the bad word--and the T woman for not showing up on this post today.

Finally, they say that blogging is mostly writing about your feelings. When a blogger is so proud of her achievements as a mother, writes a most wonderfully innocent post about the most innocent of feelings and wants to share that with her readers, the readers must acknowledge the beauty and share the happiness.

Sending a PM telling the blogger to change names and take a perfectly innocent picture down is overzealous, but it is the only way to go if you are *really* concerned about the child.

Yet, destroying the happiness, hopes and dreams of a proud mother on her own blog, over and over and over and over again can never be construed as a kind act. I hope the child did not read the comments.

We may have our ideological differences on OS, but we must remember that we all thrive for that original post. We must give credit when we see one. Be Kind.
i've favored a few of rita dove's other stuff. but this... this is quite womanish. yet parental. warm even. speaks to the womanist in me. pleasure reading. thank you for the post.

write on!
I read your previous post, and I read this one. I'm still looking for the part where you included your daughter's name, date of birth, home address, homeroom teacher and social security number. Oh, wait, you probably removed those parts after all the bitching. Yes, I'm being ironic. I don't think you did a damned thing wrong.

Being a judgmental asshole is apparently how some folks get their kicks - and in the anonymous world of the Internet, they're like fat kids in an endless candy store. So much to bitch about!
You're a very strong woman and exceedingly courageous.
I think I'm in love with Thoth.
FusunA and BFTQ, my heroines of the week.



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There really was a feeling in that comment section that harpies were let loose- or perhaps banshees, or was it harridans?
It was nasty.

I just hope BFTQ is okay out there, and aware that others see the truth.
@ Bonnie Russell:

In many of your many, many comments, I see you accusing BFTQ of a 'lack of boundaries.' Project, much?

Because the person who is demonstrating a pathological lack of boundaries in this situation is YOU, Bonnie Russell.

You have expressed your opinion repeatedly. Your opinion has been heard, acknowledged and understood. Yet you keep repeating it. Over and over and over and over and over. What is that about? Do you expect BFTQ to change her entire life, her relationship with her daughter, her opinions, her creativity, because YOU don't happen to like them?

BFTQ has not done anything illegal; she is not hiring her daughter out as a prostitute, involving her in child pornography or abusing her in any way. She is not insulting her daughter, belittling her daughter, or shaming or humiliating her--in the way you seem determined to shame and humiliate BFTQ.

You've made your point. Now. Leave. These. Nice. People. Alone.
I missed the kerfuffle but, for my money, it's a lot of fun creating controversy around here. Keeps the Open in OS.
There are, however, a few ladies who could use a good horn-trimming. You know who you are. Get a life.
R
This was a real seperate the wheat from the chaff moment. Now I'm getting PM's by "offended" bullies. No rest for the weary!

Glad to see Pretty Lady and others standing up for what's right.
The poem you share is amazing.
The furor,..disheartening.

Keep writing, my friend.
There is a voice missing here. I wish BFTQ - the blogger - would weigh in. It's important, to me, to hear from her.
Whoa and wait. Pause. Hold up. What's the big huge honking deal? I personally don't understand the stupid hippie fascination with nudity or period blood and never had to cringe through a discussion about it with my mother - I have boundaries. As someone's daughter, I'd be fucking mortified if the entire world knew I started my period. That's just not something you share with the universe. You had no right. That's your daughter's privacy. Did you bother to ask her if posting her pic and period cycle was ok with her? I think everyone is over-reacting to this a little, but I'm curious to know what your daughters reaction was. I'm embarrassed for you and the crazy people that cursed you out.
...and the poem? It's fucking weird and gross. I don't care how many awards got slapped on it. Just an opinion.
This whole thread makes me want to vomit. The people standing in judgment of anyone who didn't agree that posting a picture of a minor, her hometown and her mother's picture along with sexual content on an adult blog was inappropriate would be the very first to scream bloody murder if the same thing happened to one of their children. If you truly all believe that postings pics of minors and sensitive topics in their lives is a wonderful thing, then I challenge you to post pictures of your children. After all, it's all good, right? No harm could possibly come out of that. Anyone who believes otherwise is "hysterical." Correct?

I can't wait for the deluge of posts tomorrow. And has anyone here actually read some of this blogger's other posts? I have, and they are very disturbing by pretty much anyone's standards. I'm not arguing with her right to post what she does, but I have the right to say that it is passing strange, particularly in light of what she posted yesterday.

So, can't wait to see all those photos of your minor children plastered all over OS tomorrow. I mean, we should walk the walk, not just talk the talk. And inappropriate display of minor children are the first step on that path, or so it seems.
Should read: is the first step
I can only say that I read over the comments in the other post and I'm a bit speechless. The way some women speak to other women, especially when disagreeing, it just blows my mind. I understand the concern for the picture which was taken off, so I'm looking at the essence of your post which was a beautiful message to your daughter during this critical time in her life. I said this before in a post called Cat Fight, but I find that women are often one another's biggest enemies. There's room for disagreement, surely there is. And many disagreed with reason and intelligence. But the condescension and lecturing was demeaning and uncalled for. Surely, especially as writers, we can learn to disagree with one another without eviscerating one another. Walk a mile in another woman's shoes and you may have a different perspective. Disagree all you want. But to assassinate someone's character and motherhood is a whole another animal, and a pretty savage and nasty one at that.
Buncha jackasses. That's all I have to say about the self-righteous people who made those ridiculous and judgmental comments. Great posts. Both of them.
Crazeczar: Hey, just caught your reference...made me smile, because you're right...sometimes it really is just what it is.
I must agree wholeheartedly with Alison Kolarik on not getting the "hippie fascination" with blood or lunar cycles or menses or my moon etc. . I think it's all a gross nuisance. I saw BFTQ post as more about her struggle with shame and I just wasn't getting that she was just writing as a dippy hippy etc.
I also think if BFTQ really was named that, and it was clear who the child was, then it should have been taken down. If there is a sliver of a chance that the child will be shamed or face future shame than ...yeah... it should go down. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. But, it's the sanctimonious bullshit way the pile up happened that angered many here - too much vague accusatory bullshit about "boundaries" and over all there was a sense that if they cared so much about the child they wouldn't be so damned mean to the mother.
@ Budda. As they say in Newark: BITCH, YOU DON'T KNOW MAH FUCKIN' LIFE. And then they leave you with a lot of medical bills. Seriously? I'm totally not some psycho Republican freakbag, I'm not even a right-winger! I just reeeeaaaally believe in a child's right to privacy. I don't think talking about menses that isn't yours (with the friggin' world) is appropriate. I love, Love, LOVE the first amendment. I'm not asking for the shit to be taken down or burned, that would be downright un-American. Fuck that. I understand literary nuance. I get the subtlety and power of words. This poem stirred revulsion in me - that's pretty potent stuff! Like I said - I GET IT - I'm the daughter of a hippy. My mom did walk around (the house upstairs) naked. It was fucking weird and gross and always made me feel awkward. I'm pretty sure seeing your parents naked makes most people feel embarrassed on some level. I dunno...don't attack me for not liking the poem. I know my stuff.
...aaaaaand don't knock NJ. We're good people. Those pieces of shit you see on Jersey Shore are from Staten Island.
Bonnie: You don't have a sense of humor. You just don't. Of course, I didn't think that was her name. Some people don't have any humor. It's sad.
I love your new pictures. I decided I better post a 63 year old picture of me and a picture of my 5 brothers at their early 70s most dangerous looking.
BFTQ- I am madly in love with your avatar. What a darling little rodent - I'm jealous of that mini carrot!
Hey! the highjackers are back! *yawn*

To Pretty Lady and John Blumenthal, take it away...[applause]

To BFTQ - wow. Betcha never saw this one coming. You've bounced back with the opening on your post here though so I'm not worried, you've got chops. *back patting* Hang in there and take a vacay for a day or two ~ you've earned it.
This is sad. The arguments are sad. The highjacking is sad. BFTQ's mind is sad. The pros are sad. The cons are sad. I'm going home and trying not to think of any of this.
Your avatar reminds me of sugar.
Sugar was my hampster that stored too many carrots in his cheeks and they exploded. Or so my parent told me.
*wails
What fuss innocence, as in yours, creates. Mothers -- step or otherwise -- must bear the brunt of western angst no matter what the fear or anxiety. It's a stupid, senseless shame. You write beautifully and openly about your great love and freedom with your daughter. I applaud you! And I love this: "But I will tell her that it hurts much more to deny your truth in exchange for acceptance and approval." I applaud you! Highly rated. Joan
okay, I haven't been around OS for a while, and I found myself here due to snowbound boredom and housecleaning procrastination which kept me at the keyboard, clicking from one interesting post to another....and now I remember why I don't visit much these days.

I'm guessing it was the removed photo that got folks all up in arms at you, since I read the "offending" post and thought, "THIS is what everyone's screaming over???" It was a sweet testimony to your daughter's natural feminine strength as far as I can tell. You didn't mention her full name, nor yours, unless you edited it out or stated your real name in one of your other posts, thus enabling perverts to easily locate you and your daughter.

But people around here often think they're the oooonly ones who know what's right and dagnabbit, you doggone better listen to them, live for and revere their opinions or your life will go to hell in a handbasket. Ugh.

And it looks like they're back for another heapin' helpin' today. Sheesh. "Well-meaning", "concerned", my ass. Self-congratulatory and bully-loudmouthed is more like it.

I'm rootin' for ya, bftq.

Rrrrrrrrated!
Rita Dove OH YESSSS! What a clever and ingenious way to come back from the previous (hijacked and crashed into the earth) post. You ROCK, BFTQ. Gotta read the rest of your stuff now. I find it interesting that the 'kerfuffles' last for several hours or a day or so, then everyone just crawls away, I guess. Love OEsheepdog's reminder that this is OPEN SALON. Rated!
I have learned so much from this experience. And I will use it as a life lesson for my powerful, glorious girl.
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