Bill Beck

Bill Beck
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"Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way..." -Pink Floyd I am not English.

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JULY 24, 2012 6:10PM

Ya Think So...?

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You better think

               Think!

Think about what you’re trying to do to me

Yeah, think

               Think! Think!

Let your mind go, let yourself be free

 

Let’s go back, let’s go back. let’s go way on back when

I didn’t even know you, you came to me and too much you wouldn’t take

I ain’t no psychiatrist, I ain’t no doctor with degree

It don’t take too much high IQ to see what you’re doing to me

 

                                                                              -- Aretha Franklin

 

 

 

Trying to discuss certain ideas on an internet forum can take on the nature of morass in a New York minute.  The United States, with its complex history, its complex problems, and lofty social justice standards, facts and reason can quickly become bogged down in emotion, myth, and misrepresentation of facts.  In a personal, non-professional opinion, most people are more likely to be spooked or otherwise emotionally moved into unreason than they are to lie themselves into a distorted view of reality.  It simply is not worth the effort to entertain a false reality without a payoff.  The effects can be too severe.  It pays to be level headed, and it is my opinion that most people endeavor to be so as often as possible.  

 

Conversely, there are situations where a person will entertain an alternate view of reality.  Like the first case, the choice will center on some sort of personal gain.  Two such motivations typically are financial or political gain.  Take the recent example of Michele Bachmann and her claim that Huma Abedin, aide to Hillary Clinton, and wife to Anthony Weiner, is an undercover operative of the Muslim Brotherhood.  Mrs. Bachmann is entertaining an astonishing alternate reality with this statement.  Presumably she faces substantial risk for such an absurd, apparently delusional public position.  Aside from possibly being insane herself, why would she do it?

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Don’t be too quick to presume insanity rather than outrageous by design.  She did not call her Cinderella or Snow White.  (Certainly not Snow White).  This would be crazy with no benefit.  Rep. Bachmann chose a religion, and a political value for her accusation which has a political/financial benefit to her.  This lie was selected with a purpose.  Calling Huma a bunny rabbit would have no payoff.  Calling her a secret operative for a religious party from another country does.  Why?

 

Americans can be spooked into unreason with religion, race, nationality, etc.  Carefully played and applied, delusion pays.  It pays in political influence and it pays in money.  

 

Now consider a view as absurd as an aide to the Secretary of State of the United States working as an undercover agent of a foreign nation.  I submit to you that the notion that Trayvon Martin was the assailant and George Zimmerman was the victim in the killing that occurred on February 26, 2012, is as absurd, and the result of a similar sort of unreason, which itself results from a similar political motivation for misrepresentation.  In this case, the dead person walked into an irrational stew of the presence of a side arm, a psychologically maladjusted 28 year old young man, and a deeply flawed political ideology.  Subtract one of those elements, and Trayvon Martin would likely be alive today.

 

The fact that a gun was present is not disputed, so I proceed to the next part of the theory, flawed ideology.  The point here is that “Stand Your Ground”, which contributed to this particular event, if a flawed law, from flawed ideology, based upon emotion/unreason, for someone’s political power and/or financial gain.  The financial gain of selling more guns with greater ease is not disputed, so I proceed to the next part, the unreason/emotion of gun laws.

 

In a previous post, I mentioned offered that our close embrace of guns in the U.S., which differs from many places in the advanced, free world, is as closely related, or more related to our complex plantation economy past as it is to concerns about guaranteeing good government, or personal safety, or duck hunting.  (Assault rifles are not used for duck hunting.  On to the next part.)  In a single comment thread, the comments seemed to some to be a morass of gun rights, Aurora Colorado, and Trayvon Martin.  As broad as those apparently disparate events seemed, there is a significant common thread.  The synthesis was explained by “L in the Southeast”, Lezlie, in her July 24, 1:11 comment.  

 

Now, let’s look at unreason (fear), and race with regard to guns.  Consider the following objective studies.

 

First, it is a fascinating, albeit tragic fact that the states with a strongest history of lynchings in the U.S. are also the states with the most frequent death penalty convictions currently.  The demographics of these two things have a heavy racial component which should be intuitive.  (It is not disputed that blacks get the death penalty at a higher rate in the U.S. than whites under similar circumstances.  Moving on.)  Lynching, ‘nuff said.

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Then, overlay that map with a map of the 20 deadliest gun states.  This collection meshes closely with the states with the easiest access to guns.  As a result, accidents and suicides are included in this particular compilation of data, which is a valid consideration in the argument for greater gun regulation.  (Part of the current problem. Moving on.)

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These statistics show that the myth of gun use does not meet the reality of safer individuals and/or better government.  These statistics show a racial element in the desire for ready access to guns on a broad basis.  And these statistics show that belief in the victimization of a symbol like George Zimmerman are more emotional response to a misperceived racial threat, than they are a realistic assessment of forces in play.  Trayvon Martin was an unarmed teen, carrying iced tea and Skittles.  Huma Abedin is an aide to the Secretary of State of the United States, was born in Kalamazoo Michigan, and is married to a former U.S. Congressman.  The monster making of ordinary American citizens in an old tradition.  It pays some in political power, and pays some in financial power, and it pays some in both.  Political power and money.  Is there any wonder why, as Chauncey DeVega pointed out in his excellent post, that white men, ALL white men, are not made monsters, as it attempted with others in this process?  Money and power belong to white men in America.  It simply would not pay to apply this process to them.

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Just call me a devil's advocate--one of the other "statistical correlations" I noticed in the two map-graphs that you include is that the states which have both the fewest gun deaths and fewest executions (with the exception of New York--which surprises me with regard to gun deaths) also tend to be some of the "whitest"--states like the Upper Midwest. And, many of those states have a very high percentage of gun ownership except that ownership tends to me much more hunting oriented.
We can come up with a variety of statistical interpretations.
Suffice it to say from my "white male" perspective that I am a strong proponent of gun control (i.e. personal protection and hunting ONLY with staunch background checks) and yet, in very narrow circumstances--which are all in-definable, I also favor the death penalty.
I don't know where this fits and perhaps it reinforces your perception of educated, frustrated, older white males but I own my point of view.
Walter, you bring up an excellent point, and your point supports mine, and does not challenge it. Here's how. The upper Midwest has large gun ownership and among the most restrictive regulations regarding gun ownership and purchase. That is where the difference is. It is not mere ownership that represents the irrational aspect, but the need, as it were, for quick, easy access that represents the irrational aspect. the upper Midwest represents a relatively rational approach to gun ownership, and the rational approach is reflected in lower incidence of murder, suicide, and lacks the history of lynching and the presence of capital punishment. Your point correlates perfectly.
Oh, I neglected to address your death penalty portion. The death penalty is another way in which the United States is unusual. It is considered excessive and barbaric in most places in the world, and to be a valuable, and just form of justice in the U.S. Oddly, the death penalty has proved to not be a good form of deterrent. That leaves the value as punitive. Statistics show that the death penalty is meted out unevenly with regard to race. We punish racial identity more than we deter capital crimes. That fact indicates unreason, and not justice.

Death penalties are official, state sanctioned lynchings. I state it that way in case you overlook how I constructed it earlier. It lines up historically, and it is proved to not be useful as a rational choice for deterrent. Further in that vein, things like "stand your ground" laws are also state sanctioned lynchings. They arise in places with the history of lynchings. They have the same function. They are eschewed in places without the history of lynchings. They are supported by the same reasoning (demonizing the other) that fueled lynchings. It is a modern, evolved method for achieving the same purpose as lynchings.
MSNBC has reported this evening that gun sales in Aurora Colorado have surged since the shooting last week. Do you think that is a rational choice?
What's rationality got to do with it?

White males aren't under siege. White males aren't being profiled, even where appropriate. The reason to talk about profiling White males is to give some of us the feeling of nervousness everyone else already feels so we keep it in mind when supporting legislation.
9 time out of 10, when I have a hot flash idea -- the first thing I do is to talk it over with my wife. And if she says I've been smoking too much loco weed, I listen to her and abandon that idea.

Too bad that Michele Bachman's brain farts don't get swatted down by her hubby. But then, he's probably as nutty and fruity as she is.
Interesting. I was stunned, though, at the stats for my state (Mississippi). I would have thought it would be much higher. Nicely written, Mr. Beck.