Bill E.

Bill E.
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ABQ, New Mexico, USA
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June 28
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Director
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Bio
Former TV weatherman, copier salesman, mortgage seller (no, it's not my fault), shoe salesman, bartender, cloud-seeder, writer, blackjack/craps dealer. California kid or, as some like to say, 'Native Son of the Golden West.' Reared in bucolic Santa Rosa along the banks of the S.R. Creek and a walnut orchard that separated the crick from our house. I was on the high school swim team (not very good). I attended Santa Rosa Jr. College and Sonoma State until my education was interrupted by the draft. So it was the Air Force and eventually Penn State and a career in TV until that dissipated. Messed around with the above odd jobs ending with the blackjack thing and then now - edgy retirement.

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MARCH 2, 2009 6:37AM

The Disgrace that is our Health Care System

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I just caught Sicko on cable. That was the 2007 Michael Moore documentary on the state of our healthcare system. I hadn't seen it for a few years, but the outrage I felt then came screaming back to me. The way our HMOs try so very hard to either deny treatment or to refuse to allow new patients based on preexisting conditions. I watched how, during the early days of the Clinton administration, Hillary fought and lost when the drug companies and the HMOs bombarded Congress with a broadside that brought it all down. Then, years later, when she ran for the Senate SHE took almost eight hundred grand from those very interests. I watched patients getting dumped in skid row with hospital gowns and no shoes when they couldn't pay their hospital bills. I watched denials of treatment that resulted in death on two occasions - one a sweet toddler with a throat infection and a man with kidney cancer. Both of these could have been saved with timely treatment. And, in these two examples, the people HAD health insurance. A kidney transplant, even though the family had found a perfect match, was deemed 'experimental' and denied, along with many of the drug treatments recommended by their doctor. In the case of the toddler, her mother had no car and called an ambulence which took them to the nearest emergency room. But she had coverage at another hospital which refused to pay for her treatment at a different facility. The emergency room where she was waiting refused treatment without up front payment; she was told to drive the baby to her hospital, all of which was impossible. She tried desperately but could find no one to give her a ride until it was too late.

I listened to former HMO workers whose jobs required them to go over a person's health history with a fine-toothed comb, to find anything, anything at all, so they could be kicked out of the plan altogether. When a surgery was indicated, in the case of a woman with cervical cancer, her records were sent to a special unit which did the fine-toothed-comb thing, and denied the surgery because they discovered on her application that she had had a yeast infection once, years ago, that was cured easily. By now I was completely pissed, and was so engrossed that I was wondering out loud just how many more of these atrocities Moore could unearth.

Then there were the trips to Canada, the UK and France, where healthcare is free - no copays, no insurance, no proof of anything. In england the 'cashier' hands OUT money to patients who've been treated to make sure they get home safely. I listened to the right-wing in the US warning us about the horrors of socialized medicine: how you can't choose a doctor, you have to wait months to be seen, how the clinics are dingy and dirty and the care is abysmal. None of it was true. Their treatment seemed to be superior to ours in every way, including life span and infant mortality. One worker in an English emergency room laughed when Moore asked him how much they charge for treatment. No one had ever asked him that before. In France there are doctors driving all over Paris every night making housecalls forchristsakes.

In the lead-up to the passage of the Medicare Prescription Drug Plan, the story of how our Congress was bought and paid for by HMOs and the drug companies was so appalling that I can't believe there wasn't a huge public outcry resulting in trials, impeachments and convictions. The celebrations after President Bush signed the bill were enough to make you puke. In case you've forgotten, Medicare is forbidden, by the plan, to negotiate with the drug companies for lower prices. In other words, those lovely drug companies can charge patients ANYTHING THEY WISH. Wasn't that a lovely gift from the government of the United States to the drug companies and their brokers, the HMOs!

Our healthcare system in the United States is a crime. I don't know what the answer is, because our government is really in the back pockets of some 35,000 lobbyists. Just listen today to those goddamned Repulicans scream and cry about the pitfalls of socialized medicine. Our government has the most vulnerable of us too frightened, poor and demoralized to do anything but accept the status quo. No one seems capable of doing anything to change it. Why aren't there massive protests and cries for the heads of all those who profit so appallingly at the expense of the sick, old and dying? When asked if he thought something like the French system would ever exist in the U.S. a middle aged French physician's answer was a curt "no!" and he walked off, barely able to contain his disgust for the American system. I agree.

The last part of the movie went off the rails when Moore did a lot of grandstanding, especially with the Cuba trip. But there was enough truth in much of that documentary to make me feel sick to my stomach. I think I'll treat my nausea at home with a little diet Coke rather than hit an emergency room. It would cost me $250 and I'd likely have to wait seven or eight hours.

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My wife pulled a muscle in her back a week on Sunday after a week of weaving for her PHD. I drove her to the doctor the next day. No waiting, she didn't pay a penny and she even saw her favourite doctor. Today she went back again to get a check up, saw the same doctor, was prescribed some new painkillers by the same doctor and is at home resting comfortably, having been signed off sick for the week. The NHS may not be perfect, but it is a HELL of a lot better than the system back at her home state of Oregon.
I lived in England for 5 years. I thoroughly agree that the US needs a national health system, but you know, those English hospitals were grungy. Plenty (including our local emergency room) had problems with multiply resistant staph disease (MRSA). I could go on at length with the faults of the NHS.

But, let me tell you, it's better than the US no insurance system. If you have insurance in the US, you get fantastic care and facilities.

But, we had NHS gap insurance in the UK, which meant we could jump the queues for non-emergency problems. Everyone who has gold-plated health insurance now, would have the equivalent of NHS gap insurance under a national health system and be just as well off. Everyone who has no health insurance would be MUCH MUCH better off.
The only explanation I have is that Americans have an almost death wish to believe what politicians tell me, i.e. Canadians have to wait for a year to get scene by a heart doctor. They cannot accept that health care is conducted better in every developed country. Americans are so used to being told that they are the best.

I predict that unless the whole system is scrapped and started anew with modeling after France and Canada we are going to see a new bubble and it will have a resultant pop that will make real estate and the stock market look like a day at Disneyworld.
Cymraeg, by the way you spell 'favourite' I assume you are from England. Yes, it seems it is better than Oregon's and every other state's.

Malusinka, Moore didn't point out any grunginess, but I'll take a little if it means I'm not stuck with a bill for $200,000 for a catastrophic accident or illness.

Ablonde, I often wonder the same thing. It seems that putting a band-aid here and one there will do no good at all. Just scrap the whole thing and start over.
the underlying ethos of the united states is: "if you're poor, you deserve it, and i ain't gonna pay for lazy jerks." this is manifest in every aspect of the nation, and the health system (so to speak) is just the most obvious result.

obama isn't going to change any fundamentals, just throw some money at the insurance companies so that a few more voters are content, and a few more corporations are even more content.

i wish i saw some way for the usa to evolve into a modern democracy, but the founders froze the nation at the level of king george's britain. it will have to break before it can change.
I guess my point was that Moore is not exactly unbiased. YOu mentioned the horrors of "socialized medicine" (how I hate that term) by the right-wing as including that the clinics were dingy and dirty. My point was that they are a lot grungier than in the US. In some cases, to the point of its being a health hazard for patients.

However, my conclusion is still that the US needs national health care. The English system, with its manifold faults, is better than the US system. And of course, the English system has a bunch of crippling sacred cows. One presumes a US system would manage to create a separate set of sacred cows, perhaps less crippling.
Malusinka: I'm well aware that Moore is biased as all hell. He picked and chose cases that were shocking in their indictments of the system. But there's no denying that the health care industry in the US is running the show, paying off congress, writing the bills. Congress has completely sold out. I find that so offensive that sometimes I'd like to wipe out the whole miserable lot of them. I'll take dirty and dingy anytime over the scam that's going on here. It's a lot easier to clean up dingy than to tackle our abomination.