Bill E.

Bill E.
Location
ABQ, New Mexico, USA
Birthday
June 28
Title
Director
Company
melaleuca.com
Bio
Former TV weatherman, copier salesman, mortgage seller (no, it's not my fault), shoe salesman, bartender, cloud-seeder, writer, blackjack/craps dealer. California kid or, as some like to say, 'Native Son of the Golden West.' Reared in bucolic Santa Rosa along the banks of the S.R. Creek and a walnut orchard that separated the crick from our house. I was on the high school swim team (not very good). I attended Santa Rosa Jr. College and Sonoma State until my education was interrupted by the draft. So it was the Air Force and eventually Penn State and a career in TV until that dissipated. Messed around with the above odd jobs ending with the blackjack thing and then now - edgy retirement.

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APRIL 15, 2009 2:03AM

Depression

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I stopped the antidepressants a month ago. Felt ok for a few weeks but the last two weeks have been overwhelming. I'd been taking the pills for like 12 years and got to thinking - I was sick and tired of relying on drugs to feel ok. And, the side effects, mostly sexual, are a problem. Loss of libido, can't orgasm. Those things seem terrible when you're NOT depressed. But once the depression takes hold you'll do anything to make it go away. Reliance on drugs - no biggie. Side effects - who gives a shit. Just make this unbelievable pain go away. If cutting off an arm will stop it, fine, do it. Stopping the pills - bad decision!

Now it's just about completely overtaken me. I can't get out of bed in the morning, can't clean the house, can't write, can't do anything. I know exercise will help but I'm too far gone to get out and do it. I'm at a loss.

Desperation. Refilled the Rx yesterday and got started again. It takes somewhere between three and six weeks for the drugs to kick in -- one of the really awful truths about those damned things. The wait can be interminable. Gotta somehow hang in there.

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Bill, hang in there. I understand why you wanted to go off the medication. I see this happen often with the same results. Perhaps there are some here who have successfully gotten off their depression medication. It seems abrupt to just go cold turkey like that. I think you are making the right decision by refilling the prescription. And, as soon as you can, exercise. You're at a loss right now. Remember, everything is temporary. This will pass.
I am shocked that your doctor let you stop cold turkey. That is just wrong.

I hope that you will feel better soon. Some people have to take anti-depressants -- just like others have to take insulin. There's no shame in it.
You might even need to try another drug, there are so many now. Please make an appointment with your doctor.
@Maryt: did it on my own. About two years ago my shrink retired so I asked my GP to prescribe the drug. I didn't go cold turkey, but tapered off over about three weeks. Nardil, by the way. Anyway, this is about the fifth time I've tried this over the last 20 years, and it hasn't worked yet.
@emma: Thank you
@newblog: My goodness. Your comment is really something. I have to go read it again. Thanks, and good luck pal.
@ablonde: Have to find a new doctor, but I actually got out the directory tonight and wrote down several phone numbers. Thanks dear, and good luck with the otters and whales.
Many people still labor under outdated stereotypes. Why can't you just snap out of it? Quit feeling sorry for yourself. Just a weak person.

IT IS A CHRONIC BRAIN ILLNESS JUST LIKE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE OR DIABETES IS A DISEASE.

THINK ABOUT IT, DO YOU EVER HEAR PEOPLE WITH HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE SAY, OH, I DON'T WANT TO BE JUST DRUGGED UP I WANT TO FACE MY PROBLEMS? WHY JUST MEDICATE THESE PEOPLE, WHY NOT DEAL WITH THE REAL PROBLEMS? The false stereotypes live on.

I am talking about someone who truly has a chronic medical illness, not just someone who needs to talk to a counselor.
@kathy and Happy: Thank you so much. Just feeling like I'm not alone is a big help. I called my doctor today for a referral, and I will follow up. I'm really interested in finding out if another drug will work for me. Nardil has severe dietary restrictions. I've been eating cheeseless pizza for years (not bad, actually). But a drug without such side effects would be so very welcome.
Hey Bill,

Hang in there man, cool post.
Dear Bill,

I am moved by your post. You brought me into your world by coming over to my small little section of Open Salon and commenting on my story. Let me take a moment to thank you.

I know how you feel. Sometimes, recognition and finding someone who understands makes a world of difference. However, sometimes, even though you have that momentary solace that someone understands, it just doesn't help. I know how you feel and empathize with it. Perhaps you feel alone in this battle. Trust me when I say that you are not alone. There are people who love you very much. Unfortunately, however, you are alone in fighting the demons that are festering within you. No one can banish them but you. Even if you take small steps, you can do it.

Depression has a lot to do with self-doubt: "I can't do this. I'll never get better." In this post alone, how many "can't"s can you count? Too many. The prision of depression is built by "can't", but "can" can and will break you out of it. Take a small step and, when you find yourself saying something negative, just notice that you're being negative. Try with just noticing. Then, after you're done noticing, try to counteract one negative thought a day with a positive one: "I can't get out of bed today. Oh, but, it sure looks nice outside." - Eventually, you may find that you're so tired of being negative, that you'll want to be positive.

Please e-mail if you want a friend on this journey. I've been there and I've survived this monster. I can help too.
Bill, how about checking in with us? You haven't posted for some time.
Agreed. I'm kinda worried. :(
Bill E....I'm so sorry I missed this post. No wonder you haven't been writing. I've been clinically depressed before....I understand what you're talking about. I hope you're feeling better these days. Writing can be theraputic.