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Bill Michtom
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Portland, Oregon, USA
Birthday
January 29
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Your most imperial you-ness
Company
Patience of Job Computer Services
Bio
I was born at an early age and have continued to live until now. So far, so good.

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MAY 13, 2010 5:21AM

I will not "agree to disagree"

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Several times in a discussion about things: politics, religion, science, particularly, I have been offered by the person with whom I am disagreeing that we should "agree to disagree."

 I state that I will not agree, because, in my not at all humble opinion, this formulation is used when someone can't make a cogent argument and won't cop to it.

It doesn't mean that the person is necessarily incorrect. It could be as simple as being tired or out of sorts or not having the right information to hand.

 But, when I hear (read) that the person wants to "agree to disagree," all I can think is that this person is intellectually dishonest and doesn't have the ethical standards to admit that s/he isn't able to defend her/his position.

The most common examples of this behavior are right wing trolls (ocularnervosa, for instance), Obamalamadindongs: those who have a defense for any action or statement from our current president, regardless of it's unconstitutionality, illegality or counter-productiveness (Frank Apisa is one of the prime examples of this) and the believers in religion and theism (as a Unitarian Universalist, I can tell you they are not the same). Mostly see them on Facebook.

So, my question is, Do you see a flaw in my observation? 

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"Do you see a flaw in my observation? "


You think I am a right wing troll? Oh boy you haven't really read what I post. Here's a suggestion, go to my profile, go alllllll the way back to my early stuff and try reading. A little education won't make you look like such a fool in the future.
ps, if you are looking to start a flame war you picked the wrong person. After last years incident I don't really give a damn about personal attacks and I am not going to flounce either.
oc: My apologies. I was looking at someone's blog and you made what I considered to be RWT comments. I did not go to your site because I remember similar comments from months ago when I was here regularly.

And no, I haven't read your posts because I had seen RWT-type comments.

You'll notice I am not asking you to agree to disagree. ;-)
I sometimes propose to "agree to disagree," generally from fatigue of debating a particular point. It has also to do with social cues: Maybe I'm starting to get annoyed, or I think the argument is getting unfriendly or something. I'm thinking of an example of a friend of mine who was adamant that the U.S. must remain in Afghanistan, and after hearing each of us restate our points several times, I got sick of it, and annoyed that he refused to allow me to change the subject.