Bob Calhoun

Bob Calhoun
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Bob Calhoun is a regular contributor to Film Salon and observer of offbeat media. His 2008 punk-wrestling memoir "Beer, Blood and Cornmeal: Seven Years of Incredibly Strange Wrestling" (ECW Press) has spent one entire week on the San Francisco Chronicle's Bay Area bestseller list.

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JULY 26, 2010 3:22AM

Comic Con Report: Being Stan Lee

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Real Stan Lee, Fake Stan Lee
Will the real Stan Lee please stand up? The genuine Stan Lee (left) and his dynamic doppelganger, Fake Stan Lee (right).

In this meta age of ours where Drunk Hulks and Feminist Hulks shun the use of pronouns on their snarky Twitter feeds, it's only fitting that the Green-skinned Goliath's creator should also have his imitators. However, Fake Stan Lee isn't just relegated to 140 characters or less; he's a living breathing person.

It was Friday just before 2pm. I was in a large conference room on the upper level of the San Diego Convention Center at Comic Con, waiting for the Stan Lee panel to start. I'd lucked out and got a seat only four rows back without having to wait in line for half the day. Seats are hard to come by at Comic Con. Even a Thursday evening panel titled "Geek Girls Exist" had a line winding around the halls for it, and a guy got stabbed in the eye over a chair in the "Resident Evil: Afterlife" panel on Saturday. With a "Spartacus: Blood and Sand" panel (a show I actually watch) beginning right after Stan Lee's talk, I was camped out in Room 6BCF for the duration of the afternoon, bladder permitting.

But Stan "The Man" Lee meant a lot more to me than some Brutus Beekfcakes in skirts who eviscerate each other on pay cable. With the amount of Marvel Comics that I consumed since the age of five, it felt like Lee's imagination had fueled my own. I might not be a writer today without Stan Lee. Every issue "The Incredible Hulk", "The Amazing Spider-Man", and "The Fantastic Four" that I devoured in the 1970s had the words "Stan Lee Presents" on the top of the first page. Stan's shameless self-promotion let me know that being a writer, editor or publisher was a possibility.

At Comic Con this weekend, Stan was hyping Marvel cartoons geared at kids and his more recent creation, Striperella, for a somewhat older audience. "She strips at night and fights crime later at night," we were told moments before Stan's arrival.

As I waited for Stan, Fake Stan Lee entered the room. He was wearing a sweater vest over a blue dress shirt, had Stan's same receding hairline with an imitation mustache to match. But Fake Stan's act went beyond the limits of mere cosplay. He's a Stan Lee reenactor who never breaks character, not much different than the guys who play the part of Benjamin Franklin at certain historical sites in Philadelphia. Every word that Fake Stan utters is spoken with that same enthusiastic, New York accented patter as the real thing.

There was an empty seat next to me so I waved Fake Stan over. He was glad to take the seat and even agreed to answer a few questions.

"What's it like being Stan Lee," I asked.

He replied with loving but pointed mockery of the former publisher of Marvel Comics.

"Well, it's very interesting being Stan Lee because, as you know, I created 95% of the most popular comic books in the world," he said, "therefore everybody here should be paying tithe to me. So everyone, please get out your wallets and hand forth some money, either five or ten dollars. I think it's the smallest thing that you can do for all the enjoyment that I've brought you over the years."

I asked Fake Stan if the universe would explode if shook the real Stan's hand.

"Prob-a-bly," he answered with emphasis on each syllable.

When I asked if he escaped from the Negative Zone with the "Fantastic Four" villain called Blastarr the Living Bomburst, he claimed not to know who Blastarr was.

"But you created him!" I exclaimed.

A crowd gathered around to watch me ask Fake Stan stupid questions with him giving equally inane answers.  People sitting around us laughed when I asked him if he was ever tempted to earn some extra scratch by impersonating Hal Linden in the role of Barney Miller.  He did look a little like Linden.

"I see what you're doing and I like the reference," he said, "You're a good man and you're very smart."

Sometime during this tete-a-tete, a well-stacked model showed up in a Striperella costume. Somebody had a poster of Stan Lee kissing Striperella and now the crowd wanted Fake Stan to kiss Fake Stiperella. Fake Stan got out of his seat and affected an old man's gait as he strolled up to Striperella. With the crowd urging them on, the two embraced with maybe a reluctant peck on the cheek resulting as the proceedings started to resemble the last throes of a depressing bachelor party.

The attempt at Dionysian revelry ended before it could ever take off and the Fake Stan returned to his seat right before the real Stan Lee took the stage.

At 87, Lee still possessed the same level of energy (boundless) that he'd displayed in any TV appearances that I could recall from the 1970s. A chair was set up on the stage for him, but he stood at the podium and gestured frantically through out much of his talk. Lee began with a tale of alter egos worthy of one of his costumed crime fighters.

"I used to have a real name, not something silly like Stan Lee." Lee said from the stage. "It used Stanley Martin Lieber, a real name!"

Looking at Fake Stan Lee fidgeting in his seat, this was too much to process as I came to the realization that there wasn't a "real" Stan Lee. Stan Lee was the world-renowned hero, with Stanley Martin Lieber relegated to being the nerdy, Peter Parker like secret identity.

Lee had his reasons, however. He used an alias when he first broke into the comics business in the early 1940s because "people had no respect for comics in those days."

"They didn't consider them an art form," Lee explained. "They thought they were things that were read by dumb rubes or moronic children."

"Today it's different," Lee continued. "Today, somebody says, 'Hey isn't that Stan Lee over there?'"

Lee paused for a minute before adding, "Excuse me President Obama, I'll be back in a minute." At that moment, the hall erupted with laughter.

Eventually Stanley Martin Lieber had his name legally changed to Stan Lee.

"It got so complicated that finally my wife decided, let's just change it to Lee so now we're Joan Lee and Stan Lee," he explained. "I still like Stanley Martin Leiber but when I sign autographs, this makes it easier."

But even after the transformation into Stan Lee, circumstances in his pulpy corner still forced him to conceal his identity like Tony Stark putting on his suit of armor to become Iron Man.

"I was probably the top romance writer in the world," he said. "We weren't very creative with the titles. We had books called 'My Romance', Her Romance, 'Their Romance', 'Romantic Romances and on like that. I wrote them all."

The problem for Lee was that the books were written in a first person, confessional style from a woman''s point of view.

"I'm used to signing my name to everything I write," he said, "but it couldn't say, 'I Remember When I was 16 and I Fell In Love with the First Boy I Met' by Stan Lee. I didn't want to leave my name and I didn't want to use someone else's name. I wouldn't get the credit. I came up with probably the best idea I ever had. On every one of the stories, I had the name of the story that I would write, 'As told to Stan Lee.'"

As Lee launched into a tale of how the Comics Code Authority ordered him to decrease the size of a puff of smoke coming out of a six-shooter in an issue of 'Kid Colt Outlaw' because a bigger puff was "too violent," I asked the Fake Stan Lee if everything the other Stan said was true.

"It's all absolutely true," Fake Stan said looking awed by his living source material.

Last year at Comic Con, Fake Stan played the dozens with dudes dressed up as Deadpool and Spider-Man. I kept expecting him to attempt the same with the man who was once Stanley Martin Lieber, but he never did. Soon after I asked Fake Stan that last question, he got up and left before the genuine, or at least the legal, Stan was made to reenact that cartoon kiss with the woman posing as Striperella. Once again, the model in the mask and thigh-high boots with stiletto heels was urged by the crowd to plant a wet one on the face of Smilin' Stan Lee, Excelcior. Although she did it with a bit more feeling the second time around, I couldn't help feeling that I'd seen the whole thing before.

Bob Calhoun is the author of the punk-wrestling memoir "Beer, Blood and Cornmeal: Seven Years of Incredibly Strange Wrestling" (ECW Press, 2008). He is currently working on a book about conventions, tradeshows and other gatherings. You can follow his convention adventures on Twitter at twitter.com/bob_calhoun.

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Great blog on Stan the Man, his alter ego, and his really alter ego, Fake Stan Lee. What a mindbending experience that must have been. Good thing your mind was well prepped by years of reading comic books with their multiple alternate universes. Could particle physics be any weirder?

Thanks for the report from the seats!
Stan is still the Man, Non-Believers!
No disrespect to Stan Lee, but I have to ask: What is it with Americans and superheroes? There seems to be some unwritten law which says that all US comics have to be about some kind of a superhero.

Yes, I know, you have your underground scene. And you had the great Carl Barks. But the idea that mainstream comics could be about everyone and everything seems to have had a hard time gaining acceptance in the US.

Curious.
@Norwonk, I've talked to current American comics creators about this problem, how even an attempt at a Western comic or a horror book still has to be folded into a universe filled with costumed crime fighters and how you can't just do the anthology stories that were the bread and butter of the medium in decades past. Some creators feel that since comic cos are loathe to cancel superhero titles, it crowds the shelf space. In the past, Green Arrow, Green Lanter, Doctor Strange, etc. would have a book for awhile and then it'd lose popularity and they'd cancel them for a while to give them a try later on or fold them into another title. Now, every hero has his or her own book, plus Batman, Spider-Man and the X-Men have several titles. There just isn't the shelf space for new directions.

At the Stan Lee panel I wrote about, emcee Todd McFarlane kept struggling to get Stan to talk about Thor or Iron Man, but Stan kept going on about romance comics and Westerns. I was glad for this, because I've heard and read enough about the creation of Spidey etc.
Fake Stan is really funny.

There is picture of the Striperella kiss on HuffPo.

Comic-Con looked like a bundle of fun this year. I'll have to get down next year.
@Progressive Liberal, I saw the pic of Fake Stan on HuffPo. I was too hemmed in in my seat to get that shot. I didn't want to smash anybody's toes, but hey, I got the interview.
Seems to be a growing industry of Stan impersonators

There is this show on G4 TV called "X-Play". On the old version of the show they had a sketch called "Roger - The Stan Lee Experience." There, an actor in a bad toupee and fake mustashe stood at a microphone comedy club style making all sorts of wild claims and boasts of banging other comic creators wives. I always found it to be a little vulgar and pretty accurate.