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born in Illinois. 5 year Navy veteran. Married for 22 years (not counting the first five when we just cohabited. 4 kids, 6 grandkids, 3 brothers 2 living, 2 sisters 1 living, a mother living, a father not living. 1 dog a labradoodle, and a current cat population of 9 (I'm working on that number) I've done a lot of jobs in my life, from shill at a carnival burlesque show to making medium caliber ammunition. I built inkjet printers, embedded computer boards, restored and repaired both cars, motorcycles and electronics. I read, write, and do arithmetic (albeit poorly) My wife claims that I have more useless knowledge than anyone on earth and resultingly no one will play trivial pursuit with me anymore. I do play pinohcle but due to my inability to cheat I don't win very often. Recently disabled I turned to Open Salon to re-engage my writing bug. Update, cat population now at 2. homes found for kittens. Update two add one cocker spaniel to the list and maybe just shoot me.

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SEPTEMBER 2, 2009 10:39AM

OPEN CALL, The Penis Dialogue

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My wife, her friend, and my youngest daughter recently attended a performance of the Vagina Monologues by Eve Ensler.  I had heard a little about it and read some too.  I expressed an interest in going with them and was told that this would not interest me and might even inhibit their responses because of my gender.  While I'm not male chauvanist pig, I could see how this might happen.  I relented and hoped that I could at least be told some of the stories when they returned. 

This was not the case, they spoke to each other as if they were sharing a part of life that I'd never understand.  Okay, I am a male and there are many things that I just accept about women and their points of view.  I write them off to the differences that men and women have.  I don't take it personally.  There are many things that women don't understand about men and their sexuality and struggles too.  So, in the interest of better understanding across the gender gap I want to share some of my thoughts about the male sexual experience.  

I've posted this as an open call to bring points of view and experiences other than my own in the hope of showing both the unique experience of the individual and show a certain commonality too.  I call this a dialogue simply because I hope that some civil and enlightening discussion will take place across the gender line.

I have a penis.  It isn't a weapon, a tool, a sausage, a battering ram,  or a means of controlling another person.  It is literally a primary sexual characteristic.  it is an organ that serves a dual purpose.  It is the instrument of reproduction, and a means of comfort and pleasure. 

I didn't really understand what it was until I hit puberty, oh, I knew that boys and girls were different and like most kids had some idea of the mechanics of sex.  About the time I turned thirteen, I started to be made aware of it, my penis that is.  It seemed to have developed a mind of it's own.  With girls nothing shows when they are aroused.  For boys it's decidedly different.  If a thirteen year old boy is experiencing some state of arousal, anyone who happens to glance in the general direction is well and truly informed that this is the case.

I would sit in class and find that for no conscious reason it would spring into a  state of erection.  If I was put in the position of having to stand and face the class I knew that it would be the root of a major embarassment.  Even if I managed to get through a class without being called upon the dilemma was still there.  I mean, I couldn't just sit there after class, I had to move on to the next one.  So it occurred to me that if I carried my books down low that it would effectively hide my erection.  I didn't know then that girls had already figured this out and were keeping an eye peeled for any boy who was doing this.

Now for some reason the more sexually precocious a girl was the more that this applied.  I would be stopped and the girl would innocently ask me a question about one subject or another in an effort to get me to move my books.  See, I liked girls so I couldn't just tell them to go away.  So I'd fiddle around with my shirt or try to face a wall or locker and do my best to force her eyes up.  I didn't know that the whole point of the exercise was to reveal a glimpse of my erect penis.  Nothing worked and they would stare at it for a few seconds and get red and run back to their friends to give details about size and length.

The locker room was another weird place for boys.  We were generally running around in various states of undress and theat for me was embarrassing too.  Some people were totaly at ease with being nude, some of us, were not.  There was a sense of competition about genitals too.  Back to size again.  Some would look and do a little mental measuring.  If the result was not to their liking some would actually become violent.  This is something that happens a lot. 

I've been sidestepping something here,  I am, shall we say, a bit more amply endowed than average.  I hate how this sounds, but to be blunt, it is true.  This caused me a lot of trouble at times.  The girls knew, the boys knew, and I am sure that at least one student teacher knew when I was in high school.  I won't go into details since this isn't about that part of having a penis.  For some reason, the boys who had less than I found that this must make me gay.   I'm not.  The girls were more confusing.  While I eventually learned what was going on in the hallways, they seemed to be a little frightened by it.  

Most thirteen year old boys then were as misinformed as they were uninformed.   We didn't know what any of it meant in terms of real life.  Big, small it was just so confusing.  Personally, I got tired of hearing about it.  It was assumed that since I was bigger, that I would be sexually aggressive, I wasn't.  I'd been through things that made me aware of how horrible unwanted sexual encounters were.  

I wish I could convey just how uncomfortable I was in this stage of life.  I was tall, thin, shy, and blushed so easily.  It wasn't until my own kids reached this part of life that I knew how common it was to be this way. 

That's my story here, the moral being:  Everyone has something that makes them uncomfortable. No one is exempt from the embarassment of puberty.  Coming to grips with sex is a part of growing up that everyone has to do.  We are all sexual beings to some degree.  Now, let's hear from other men who had questions and concerns.

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I so enjoyed this. I hope many guys accept your open call. I have five younger brothers and they certainly never discussed what it was like having a penis.
I enjoyed reading this and await further penis monologues.
This is hilarious and I can't wait for the penis dialogues.

PENIS 1

"Hi yah"

PENIS 2

"Hey."
Zuma, you left off the obvious answer, "Just hanging around"
This is, as usual excellent Bob. I had a similar Vagina Dialogue situation -- one of my daughters was in the play, so what to do? I saw it -- definitely a woman thing, kind of like Sex and the City, minue the closet space obssession. But maybe you could help me out. You say the penis has a dual purpose. What's the second one?

R.
As a kickstand John.
first it's for pissing, then it's for pissing and pleasure, then when you're old, ugly and poor it's for pissing again... yay
Very nice. My penis spends most of its time conversing with my prostate. rAted!
http://open.salon.com/blog/theobsoleteman/2009/09/02/the_penis_dialogue_the_musical_-_bobbots_open_call
Penis Blogs Rule !! More Please !!

mma fanatic
http://www.hawaiiufc.com
I'm with Chuck. The last time I had a hard it was a hard boiled egg!!
I'm shy...don't know if I could match your candor! Rated
This is my penis monologue...
http://open.salon.com/blog/robin_sneed/2009/06/28/transgressing_the_strap-on
Have to say I admire your candor and the thoughtfulness that clearly went into this post. Penis size is in fact discussed in The Vagina Monologues, which is a brilliant collection of vignettes. I think more men should see the show, it's a real window into the desires, fears, confusions and experiences of women.

Btw, in my experience women talk about penis size but hardly ever in a competitive way, more for fun than anything. And never with the fervent dedication men reserve for female breasts.
I think what you've described seems pretty normal and very similar to what I remember to back in the day. Not much to add at the moment, but maybe I can "cum up with a post" later.
I never had a brother so it took me a long, long time to understand anything intimate about boys and men. I always wondered what it was like for them having an "outtie". You shared in a bravely open way, and I appreciate that. Now I understand what all those boys were doing with their books in high school.

I would go to any play called "The Penis Dialogue". Especially if it was written by you.

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Bob, man, your experience was exactly my own. But there was the additional indignity of having a voice that wouldn't work right while we were trying to hide our penises from prying eyes. Too much multi-tasking in school...

I did see the Vagina Monologues...with a date. It was really interesting to me to understand about women and how they perceive their own bodies and vaginas and orgasms, too. Quite enlightening to me.

Excellent post. We really should talk about this kind of stuff more.
Excellent post - I look forward to seeing the other posts in turn! I admire the way you have broached this subject and I look forward to the dialogue that ensues. Sadly, I know that many men today cannot tell their sons about the facts of life - including those relating to his penis! - easily and comfortably. Over here, if it's done at all, it's done on a long car journey where God forbid either of them would take his eyes off the road! Of course, mothers can pass on the facts, as in the mechanics, of sex but the physical contingencies of an organ we do not have is an intimate border we cannot cross. Rated.
I had hoped for a bigger response on the subject by men in particular. not that I'm disappointed by the responses that I did get. I'm glad that so many women did take time to read and comment. I just thought that if we understood more about each other there might be less conflict.
Some comments need to be addressed individually.

Robin, Thank you for being who you are too.
Noah, Tell us the story behind your comment.
Chuck, at least your penis and prostrate are on speaking terms.
Scanner, if you'll pardon the obvious pun, it'll eventually come if you work at it.
Ralph, please shed your inhibitions and celebrate your penis.
Sally, So very glad to see you here. i think that you are right, more men should see the play. Here I sought to give the masculine view of the penis, from this perspective. At the risk of being booted from the old boys club I'll let you in on a little secret, the male obsession with breasts is really just for fun too.
BL4, Glad you came and read this. I'd be glad to answer any questions on the subject in a clinical way. Thanks for adding me too.
Stephen, That it was so common drove me to post this. We, as men know things about maleness that are frequently the subject of both misunderstanding and stereotype that if openly addressed would help us see each other not as enemies, but as two sides of the same coin. Even those who are not sexually involved with their opposite need to see that it is merely humanity and not a battle.
Todd, put up a piece on this too. Tell your uncle to as well.
Psychomama, We face a cultural dilemma, men are taught either directly or by assumption, that a penis is an extension of self. just as women are much more than carriers of breasts and vaginas, men are not defined solely by their penises. We share much more as humans than we allow.
It's been interesting, raising a boy - this adds some light to what he must have been experiencing - and may still be. Thanks, bobbot - you done good (as a man, and in this post).
I was two when my brother was born. I thought he had a tumor when I saw him. When I learned that he didn't have a tumor and that all boys had them, I felt so sorry for them that they had to walk around with those things getting in the way.

So much for Freud.
damn, this was interesting. would love to read a penis version of the vagina monologues.