Brian B

Brian B
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A Work in Progress. When not doing the devil's work, I'm the single parent of two great young men, living playing and working in beautiful Thunder Bay Ontario. That's at the western end of Lake Superior - the North end of Highway 61. from here, you can just drive all the way to New Orleans, though I have yet to do it.

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MARCH 24, 2009 7:00PM

The Death of the CD? or Confession of a Music Dinosaur

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Are we about to see the compact disc go the way of the vhs movie, the eight track, the Edsel?

 I recently read on Big Salon, Joy Press' "brand graveyard" feature on Virgin Record stores , and have read innumerable business news articles on the decline of music retailers. My own eyes have witnesses the shrinking square footage devoted to music content at Futureshop, Wal-Mart, HMV.

 Apparently, MP3 players have made the venerable product obsolete.

 I must at this point confess to being a music dinosaur. I still have over 200 vinyl LPs dating back to 1973ish, and even a turntable upon which to play them, if only I replace the blown speakers. I love the imperfections of 'grooved' and thus groovy music.

 And somewhere, in the closet, there is even  the eight track player and  selected tapes - Yes, Neil Young's Journey Through the Past, Doobie Brothers "What Were Once Vices are Now Habits"... the latter being one of my all time favourite album titles. 

Still, I have become a consumer of compact discs. I have even resolved recemtly to buy MORE, to do my bit to support the industry. 

 Music downloading is not entirely foreign to me. In the stone age several computers ago, some techie installed an early file sharing link. Can't even recall the name. So long ago, it was before Napster. With the aid of the more tech savvy lil B, I burned a few mix cd's. 

 Then that site died, and I never visited another one.

 I do not own an MP3 player.

I have a longstanding reluctance to embrace anything requiring online payment, which is odd, given that I cheerfully bank online and swear audibly when stray bills arrive from entities without online payment. And, though Canada's copying laws are less strict than the USA, I have a twinge of guilt about not supporting the bands, less so for the purveyors. 

However, that is not why I will mourn the death of the CD, if it is upon us.

My concern is more fundamental, cultural and philosophical. Downloading allows the freedom to select individual songs, turning all music into a giant singles market. We will lose the virtues of hearing songs in an order arranged by a band, performer or producer. Sure, often that means little. But not always. Where will the next Pink Floyd "The Wall" or "Darkside of the Moon" find an audience?  I know that for me, The Beatles singles compilations lack to verve of their LPs. Same with The Who. And many other more oscure acts. Anybody remember Babe Ruth?

 Another loss is packaging. Liner Notes. Cover art. Poster inserts. Cultural expressions which enhanced many a musical experience.

The biggest loss, however, might be the shared experience of music. The very uniqueness of the individual MP3 mix drives the listener into a cozy earbud world, isolated from their surroundings, their friends, peers, parents. Many fond memories involve shared musical experiences. The excitement of the new release. A new dorm resident playing previously unknown sounds. From sharing comes learning, and friendship, socialization. The risk of the workd losing this cultural interaction staggers me.

Can I do anything about this? Should I? Should you?

Or am I just a dinosaur?

 

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You're not a dinosaur, Brian. It's interesting to speculate where the download world will take us. As for the single-serving marketing of music I'm sure you remember rushing down to the music store to buy the latest 45 single, don't you? I remember them costing 99 cents, much like a single download from iTunes. But the vinyl version had a B side too.

Lots of the digital albums I buy come with digital booklets which are the equivalent of liner notes, cover art, etc. I don't think that kind of analogue presentation will completely go away just as I don't think printed books will cease to exist.

Bottom line for me is that the content will continue much as Shakespeare or Mozart are still viable.
I must be a dinosaur too. I don't want to lose that in-hand experience either. How do we save it?

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I am the dinosaur here, Brian. Great post.
Brian, I understand and feel your pain.. I am probably the only one of my siblings that buys a cd and listens to the whole thing and loves the whole thing from the really cheesy b side songs to the power ballad and the hook.
yes I have a mp3 player but if i were to show you the playlist, all 8 plus hours of it.. you would notice that it is not 1000 some odd random songs, though i could do that.. its is really 5 or 6 *example im sure its more than that really* cds/artist with huge chunks of their work.. so for an hour im listening to paramore, the next hour Im listening to Avenged, then for like 3 hours Im listening to HURT *Love* and where did most of that music come from? my own personal cd collection.. which isnt near as impressive as my dvd collection.. but thats just bc im poor..and i believe in recycling.. aka.. I buy used music from awesome places like slacker *though sometimes expensive* and vintage vinyl...

lets go down to the record store and check out what new to us..

oh.. and did i mention that i am currently staring at a framed almost mint condition copy of yellow submarine on vinyl.. yea Im a sentimental brat and frame 2 of my dads beatle records for fathers day last year.

AND! if I look thru most of my boxes of stuff that has no place other than in boxes Ill find a very old very worn out copy of Bobby Bares Lullabyes legends and lies..
I cant listen to it any more bc we havent had an 8track player in years.. YEARS ... now i wanna go down load those songs.. lol totally defeats the point of this comment..
At Nakava, where I hang out, we wrestle over control of Pandora, the online music radio station that is self-designed. We sit outside and listen to music on our laptops. Hell, lots of times we ditch technology and play the guitar for each other! Also, don't forget about speakers that one can plug one's ipod into. They are key for sharing. Thanks for writing!!!!!!!!
Mich...my kids plug their MP3s into the cra stereo...given lil B's tastes, not sure that's a good thing.
BA: I'd loan you my 8 track player...but only to use here.
OE: you ain't no dinosaur, youse a sheepdog!
MzEll: I'm trying 3 cd's at a time...
COS: gotta love Shakespeare. Amazing relevance and stick to it ness...
as usual, not reading other comments because i'm exhausted and because you've hit a chord with me. (how clever am i?) i too don't have an Ipod or whateverr. and have just begun to truly adore CDs. you're not a dinosaur, you're just a neanderthal. :) like me. i feel like an ignoramus walking around with my cd player, listing to books on cds while i walk my puppies, passing teenagers with mp3 players stuck in their ears. god, communication is so fucked already, but then i remember that before this, teenagers were obsessively listening to LP's with the sound cranked up.

i just hope that they give us a loooooong lead time before they take our CDs away. and then i think, fuck it, where are our jetson robots and jet packs???? the priorities are so messed up, man. love love lvoe
I have the sense that we are not seeing the death of the CD as much as we are seeing the death of the music industry as it currently exists, which, frankly, might not be such a bad thing. The powers-that-be do not exactly do a lot to encourage true creativity or originality in music production, instead playing it safe by promoting and maintaining a rather bland status quo.

I think there is actually an up-side in all of this in that artists will gain more control of the artistic elements of production because distribution/marketing/availability of music will become less controlled by moneyed interests that currently represent the music industry and maintain the somewhat bland status quo.

So, perhaps the new ways of marketing music will actually strengthen the types of elements about which you worry about losing. I’m not normally a the-glass-is-half-full type of person.
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In '86, I bought my first CD player. That was also the year I was helping build PARC Studios in Altamonte Springs, FL, and I got into a mild argument with Pat Armstrong (the PA in PARC), producer/manger of Molly Hatchet, Pat Travers and others about the future of the CD.

Pat insisted CDs would never amount to more than half the music market, with vinyl LPs retaining the other half. I told him he was full of shit, that CD quality was close enough and a helluva simpler to use. Pat may have been wrong, but he's still rich.

Format, you ask? As a musician/songwriter, I have original material on 2" tape, 1"tape, reel to reel at 30, 15, and 7 1/2 ips, cassettes, hi-speed cassettes, mini-disc, video-tape, CDs, and digital files of wavs, mp3s, avis. My point is, nobody knows for sure what the next killer technology will be, but you can be sure that whatever format you choose, you'll have to convert or die at some point.

20 years ago, I bet on the CD, and I'm betting it will still be around in twenty years. BTW, Pat Armstrong wasn't completely wrong -- the vinyl LP is still around, and it'll probably still be around in twenty years, too.
theo: feeling the love... I needed that!
rick: I suspect that you are right, but even then, it will be a cultural transformation. will it be change we can believe in?
tom: thanks for the pro view. I had considered including a word or twelve on the resurgence of vinyl. hope lives.
Hi Brian! Hey, I download Albums from iTunes, and I make everyone else listen to them in order whenever I do. I hate ear buds, as any normal person would. I do however like the whole iPod concept where I can store my whole CD & DVD library on this one little card sized box computer and take it with me when I travel & plug it into my radio and listen to all my CDs without dragging them around. I still have to load a bunch of them on, though. It helps me to travel light! I still buy CDs and DVDs. It's nice to be able to touch things. Good post! Nice to have you around.
P.S. I really like the Doobie Brothers too. Also, Queen, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and oh, I have a lot of vinyl albums, too.
When I was 6 years old (in 1986) I wanted more than anything my own record player for Christmas. Mom wouldn't get me one, saying, "But then what will I get you when you're 12?"

We all know that I didn't get that record player in 1992, either.

I did get it for Christmas a couple of years ago, and have a collection of LPs, mainly bought at thrift stores. I'm trying to create the world's worst collection of them, which fortunately is not hard to add to. (Carey Landry's "Hi God!" album is a favorite, as are "Mr. Bongo Plays Hi-Fi Cha Cha" and "The Thinking Man's Cha Cha Cha."

I do think that with MP3s, the music market will go back to being more of a singles market, which as others have pointed out, is what it was originally.

(I actually mourn more the death of small-market radio...)
Amazon killed the radio store.
I still have over 700 vinyl albums and the covers have all been kept in plastic. They are each in almost perfect condition. I asked for a new turntable last Christmas and there's just something about the crack and pop of the needle first meeting the vinyl.

I also own a rather extensive collection of CDs. But I never play them anymore.

I have just short of 30,000 songs on my computer which is hooked up to a high-end stereo/DVD system that's real boss. The computer helps me to play these songs in any way I choose - by year, by album, by genre, alphabetical order - any way I choose. And the sound is incredible.

By the time you found Steely Dan in your CD collection, and put it in your CD player and hit play, I would be half-way through Kid Charlemagne.

Welcome to the future.
I still have a stack of vinyl from the 70s and 80s and some hang on my wall for the art. But most of my cds are under the dresser or in between couch cushions I suspect ... I went digital. But I mostly buy the whole album and tend to listen is the arranged order -- even if i don't like the song. Old habits ... It's nothing against CDs -- It's just convenience (but I pay my way). It's much more efficient to carry around an iPod with 1000 songs than a portable CD player and a suitcase of CDs that will get scratched because I leave them around to fall in between cushions ... but you're not a dinosaur -- you're a sunflower!
I LOOOOOOVE the liner notes. I do download a lot of music, but there are certain bands cds that I must have the liner notes for.

I've also got about 3-4 moving boxes FULL of vinyl.
I don't know- we've talked about this at the store because our CD sales have really bottomed out. Not sure what the answer is.

I did see a news piece recently though that said- ironically- vinyl sales are on the rise these days. Hm.
I would be sorry to see CDs go for all the reasons you named. Last year I bought an iPod Shuffle and do enjoy my personally selected playlist and being able to buy one song at a time, but I'd hate to give up hearing an entire "album". Through the years, I've often found my favorites among the songs I'd have never heard except by buying the CD or vinyl disk.
Brian - I am into mp3 for practical reasons. I scratch things like CD's. I love downloading mp3 files to my mini sansa. I had a bigger sansa but it got in the way at the gym. I like the clip. I envy people who have mint condition vinyl collections. I'm just not that neat and suck at keeping anything materially substantial in order. Thanks for the musical trip down memory lane. Rated.
Music is uniquely personal. I've always made mix tapes, and I would prefer to listen to my music before I will listen to someone else's. Think also about the freedom and power of mp3 players such as the iPod: I can carry all that music with me all the time. Sure, earbuds are antisocial, but I don't have to listen that way. Once you buy an iPod, it can plug and play in your car, or in a stand alone system.

I'm not sure what there is to do about it, and I'm not sure why one would want to. I have literally thousands of CDs. And the most important songs (to me) from which are on that old iPod. I have found that embracing mp3 music has enhanced my listening experience in ways I couldn't have understood or predicted before .
Carol: sounds like we have similar or at least overlapping tastes.
Lee: I'd imagine that the key to the Cha Cha is NOT to think.
Rich: so true about Amazon, and iTunes too. Don't you miss music as shared experience?
Duane: I always found Steely Dan too "cold"
Cindy: I'm awantin' to inspect tween those cushions
Anni: I'm not surprised. you are all class, lass
Juli: yes, even HMV now stocks a few token vinyl records, at premium prices
Suz: whats on your iPod?
Leonde: my vinyl is worn, not mint...
On my iPod : some of the old - Linda Ronstadt, Van Morrison, Queen, The Eagles, Credence Clearwater Revival; some of the new/newer - Bright Eyes, Citizen Cope, Duffy, Adele, Yael Naim, The Eagles (again), John Fogarty, Bob Dylan (I never really got into his stuff before), Sara Barellis (sp?), Grace Potter and the Nocturnals, Susan Tedeski (sp?), The Felice Brothers.

At work I listen to an internet radio station that plays both vintage and new releases - I love it so much. It seems to be my taste to a surprising degree.
Suz... my tastes are also more ecletic than the examples in my post might suggest. I have everything from classical to rock to jazz(both instrumental and vocal). Even a bit of county (my Faith Hill period). No rap though. well, a few rap influenced tracks by Joss stone and Lily allen. The latter cd I picked up last trip. I seem to be buying two oldie cds and so balance with one new artist. Last trip was Louis Armstrong, Heart, Lily. Before that was AC/Dc, The Who, Katy Perry. I'm thinking the new Diana Krall next.
I remember 45 rpm records, when they were new. Tech will always be fast changing. You just have to pick a technology and stick with it, and eventually it will be so old it will be cool.

I just listen to the radio in the car and that solves that.
Lea - i too prefer radio in the car, but as Leeandra noted, small market radio is dying. Every week, another time slot seems to be filled with canned chatter from a bunker outside of Sasalito. My vehicle has a cd player, as does my computer, thus my comfort with that format.
I'm with you dude. I buy CDs and like to have packaging and everything. I found your post after making an offhand comment in my weekly music post that I do not use I-Tunes.
thanks McGarret, I'll have to heck out your posts.
My oldest daughter filled the house with the sound of her voice, talking to friends on the phone, and the sound of music while playing her favorite songs. These sounds helped me stay in touch with her. My youngest daughter is growing up in the text message age. I never hear her conversations, even in passing. Some nights she has stayed up "talking" much later than I realized and she listens to her music on an Ipod. So, all was quiet until I bought her an Ipod docking station. When she started playing some of her music out loud, I realized what we had missed out on together. A lot of what she listens to will never impress me, but there are still a few music groups that bridge the generation gap.

I won't miss the CD. It was never my favorite music storage device. However, the sharing is important- no matter what.
sounds like a household full of joy, tai