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JULY 14, 2009 8:52PM

What's Wrong With Utah?

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Are they trying to make Texas look enlightened? I appreciate the effort y'all, but damn.

I just want to paint you a picture. During the election this fall, proponents of Prop 8 said it was about freedom. They talked about their right to tell their children that gay people were evil (which has nothing to do with Prop 8). They talked about their right to promote their own kind of family values. And these benighted folks would say this with an utterly straight face. 

Well, they got what they wanted. Prop 8 passed by a couple of points and then the next shitstorm began. Miss California said something about opposite marriage and all the homophobes embraced her as a hot chick who said something brave. And all the Prop 8 opponents hit replay on their Tivos because she wasn't even speaking english. And when she didn't win, I saw people who were astounded that she got fired for having an opinion... or something.

Well, friends, fear not for your famous homophobes. Yes, they may not get to keep their tiaras, but at least they won't be arrested for giving their honeys a peck on the cheek.

Full story here, courtesy of Care2. Here's what happened next...

 

 

 

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Just another fine example of the Theocracy of Utah. The police, the government and the Mormon Church all in one big “polygamous” family.

I guess kissing your opposite sex 10-yr-old first cousin is okay though, as long as you’re married to her first. (just like you'd be to her sister, mother and aunt)
That's a rhetorical question, right?

Rated
Utah regularly gets it's freak on. Who are they trying to fool?
safe bet, i'm waiting for the day when the governor of utah will declare that the state has no gay people. just like iran!
no way, thoth! feel free to theorize. after all, no one is born mormon, though i guess you are born utahn. is it the water? are they drinking that salt lake?
zumalicious, i'm pretty sure this was an underwear
i mean garment
violation.
Utah isn't so bad...SLC was the one place I've lived where I felt comfortable with a shaved head, pierced tongue and nose, or green and pink hair. Far fewer "ignernt" rednecks in my funky-cool, old neighborhood near Liberty Park than there are here in Bumblef**k, Blue State.
cruelwench: With a shaved head you prolly passed as a queer stomp'in, neo nazi, skinhead. That's damn near royalty by Utah standards.
Whoa! Do not confuse the LDS Church with the entire State of Utah, which is less than 50% LDS.

I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt until I saw this:

"no way, thoth! feel free to theorize. after all, no one is born mormon, though i guess you are born utahn. is it the water? are they drinking that salt lake?"

You are slamming a lot of good people in Utah who do not support the LDS Church's actions. They deserve better than this.

Decidedly NOT rated.
Pre-judging people because of an assumed affiliation is never, never, never a good idea, but hey, if it makes you feel superior ...
Ummmm, sorry, Cap’n Parrotdead, but it’s DAMN easy to confuse the LDS Church with the State of Utah”.

According to The Salt Lake Tribune, “More than 80 percent of legislators are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons), and for the past 15 years, legislative leaders have met annually with Mormon church officials to discuss the coming year’s agenda.”

You also need to check you population numbers cuz according to the Salt Lake Tribune (again), “A majority of the state's residents are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly referred to as the Mormons or the LDS Church. As of 2007, the percentage of Utahns that are counted as members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was 68.7 percent of the state's population.”
Here's the scary thing. Back in the day if you were a religious fanatic, your websites were made with something like Microsoft Front Page and looked as though they were designed by your senile Uncle Harry. However, nowadays, if you look at the prop 8 site as an example, it's very professionally done and looks credible. Anytime fanaticism has an air of credibility and legitimacy, it's time to pack up the bags and move far away, like Vermont
Dude, it ain't just Utah.

Lokk, for instance, at what is called, by the victims, "Mormon beer." One of my closest friends went to college at Olympia, Washington. To meet expenses, he had an exhausting, backbreaking, and really foully stinky job, hoicking great bags of oyster shells from shucking mills to new oyster beds in the Sound.

Hour on hour, truckload upon truckload, great stench-laden bags of oyster material were schlepped about. The bags of shells and muck contained larvae of the oyster and could be spread on the shoals to cause the formation of new oyster beds.

But these bags had to be loaded and unloaded, hefted and thrown down, and after a day of this, he went to a tavern for refreshment.

Behold, all they had was three-two beer. Mormon beer. The whole western side of my country has this problem. They aren't just a Utah thing.
You can call it "pre-judging' if you like. It's actually a reasoned conclusion, arrived at after having had genuine experiences.
With every person in Utah?
okay captain parrotdead, what exactly did i say about people from utah? i said you could be born there. i've been pretty clear about the target of this rant, and the title is meant to be a takeoff on "
what's the matter with kansas
".

incidentally, i'm from texas. are you defending the people who arrested men for kissing in public?
thanks for reading, cruelwench. i've only been to the airport in salt lake city. i'm sure there are a lot of nice folks in utah. it surprised the heck out of me when i moved to california and started feeling nostalgic for texans.

but holy shit, they arrested people for kissing. it's so impossibly archaic and ridiculous.

high lonesome, let me state again: i'm not accusing all the people in utah of being bigots. i mean i did post a video that showed the protest after the arrest, and presumably all of those people live in the city and came to speak out against what had happened. they rock. hooray those utahns!!

at no point did i say that every single person in utah was to blame. again, my title is supposed to be a riff on a well known book that came out a few years ago.
thank you, dave! after all, i did wait until after they arrested a gay couple to post my evil prejudices ;)
You tell 'em, feisty! Who wants to kiss me right here? Cyberkisses for freedom! Aw, CaPnParoty, we all take the hits for the weirdos among us; I feel it as an American every day! 'Twasn't meant nor need be taken personally.

My daughter once asked me, Why do you always say you're from Texas, but don't like Dubya Bush?

To distinguish that all Texans are not idiots, duh! And that's why they laugh 'cause even taxi drivers in Japan can understand why I would want to make that distinction.

I don't know what Sundance's record is for queer films, but I'm all for you suggesting to Robert, CaPn, that they offer a documentary scholarship on the theme, Utah Loves Queers! Be An Activist And Settle Here!
I have never been to Utah.

My theory is this. Religion is the cause of that. It is very obvious.
My theory as to why Utah is like it is has to do with lines and neighbors.

I mean just look at a map of the state. All the lines are STRAIGHT! Not only are the lines straight, but they are all at RIGHT angles to each other. No variations, no irregularities. None. Nope, none allowed.

Now look at the neighboring “role model” states around them: Colorado = straight and square; Wyoming = straight and square; Nevada = pretty straight, but them deviate in Las Vegas prolly screwed that up; Arizona = pretty darn straight except where it touches California (only figures!). We won’t discuss Idaho because the top half of that state is a plain embarrassment to Utahians.

So let’s recap: Way straight, Way right (angled). Now if those aren’t grounds for being a bunch of homophobic, right wing, fundy, wack jobs nothing is!

P.S. With the kind exception for the few that aren’t (but I AM keeping my eye on ‘em just in case the lines get to them!)
thank you butchy! i also proudly tell people where i'm from. i'm just not so proud of what they're usually up to. and besides, the decider is NOT a texan... he's just mooching off
our wabi!


as they say in crawford, your cat can have kittens in the oven, but that don't make 'em biscuits.
man, i should quit trying to use html in my comments... my kingdom for a preview button!
oh thoth, you should really go to utah one of these days. the airport in salt lake city looks exactly like a great big dead caterpillar!

phaedo, tell me more of this place called washington...

safe bet, i believe you have a bona fide scientific theory there!