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MAY 26, 2010 12:33PM

Guns and Gams: A Night With Woody Allen at the 92nd Street Y

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I won’t beat around the bush. Though it will horrify my mother (who actually reads all my posts, and who, like me, isn’t always pleased with his positions on women) I’m a sizable fan of Woody films. I went to see him speak on American cinema at the 92nd Street Y last night and I now present you with the extra savory bits.

On the moral power of cinema: “Like Oscar Wilde, I believe that ‘all art is useless.’ If you want political action, you need guys in the street with rifles.”

On rifles again: There are some problems in life that, no matter how much of a liberal democrat you are, you have to get in there with a gun.”

On the scene where Shane (Alan Ladd) goes after justice with (you guessed it) a rifle: “That’s how life should be. He did something in the town that I would be too scared to do. It’s probably ritual murder of the father in Freudian terms. In fact, it’s a Mitzvah. It’s a nice poetic thing.”

(The Moderator’s reaction to the above: “O…kay.”)

On what “smart people” who go to see movies need: “A Mozart concerto or an Ingmar Bergman film.”

On westerns: “I like urban films. I’m not interested in saddles.”

On “urban” films: ““When you see Frank Sinatra playing a cowboy, you want to throw up.”

On how to tell if a movie’s funny: “You look at your stomach and see.”

On Marlon Brando’s talent: “Nothing short of pulverizing.”

On his favorite moment in a Marx Brothers movie, “When they paper the woman to the wall in A Day at the Races.”

On what movies pass his tummy-laughing test of comic authenticity: “I’ve made a number of comedies and I would exclude all of those.”

On why he uses long takes in his movies: “Because I’m lazy”

On the kind of comedy he doesn’t like: “broad.”

On the kind of comedy he does: “effete.”

On what that might look like: “Penthouses, men shaking martinis, women coming home in sables and making jokes about alimony.”

On Audrey Hepburn’s sex appeal: “She’s a lovely creature, beyond what you could expect to end up with in life.  Not my kind of woman--not hot enough.  For me, cheap is good.” (Film clip from Roman Holiday is shown.) “Now that I’m 74, she looks a little sexier.”

On Frank Capra’s work: “Wonderful, wonderful films that I never liked.”

On the perennial question concerning his Ingmar Bergman worship: “I was this Jewish nightclub comic from Brooklyn. Why was I getting my influences from films by a Swedish, religious filmmaker?”

On the Thin Man movies: “I loved when guys slept in pajamas—they were so urban they slept in pajamas.”

On why he stopped seeing sci-fi films: “My interest turned to girls.”

On Lebron James: “I don’t like the idea of buying a great guy and getting him to do it for us.”

On the actors that came after Brando: “They’re all living off the human poem of this guy, nourished by the poetry that he was.”

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I'm a fan of early Allen, the hilarious early films. He has had some of these views for many years. Someday I'll write about my meeting him -- a hoot.
There's genius in there

somewhere...

But I might need a sieve and a microscope to find it

I just never could wrap my mind around Allen
I used to idolize Woody Allen when I was much younger. Today I try hard to separate his films from the man who created them.
RATED
He's right about Bergman, wrong about daughters.
I used to like him...and then, well, you know. I can't watch his films any more. I don't know if I could live with myself sounding so dry and aloof.

Better him than me.
I'm envious. It's easy to forget today how funny he has been. I recently saw an old Dick Cavett show he guested on, and he was continually LMAO funny.
I can't stomach him. Still think his early films are comic brilliance but I find them hard to watch particularly Manhattan. He is the urbane NY Jewish version of Roman Polanski and nearly acceptable because the victim wasn't fifteen. But I can't move past that.

I read his answers but I feel no enjoyment reading him at all as it's impossible for me to separate the man/artist from what he did to a girl who considered him her only father, a girl who had disabilities....btw, I feel the same way about Morgan Freeman, another creep.

I think Allen's art suffered after he got caught up in this...maybe the sexual tension was what drove him. but I think his film hasn't been the same. I could be wrong...he may have said what he needed to say, maybe long before but he lost something intrinsic. His work to me is inauthentic and what's more, I sense he knows it.
Apart from some personal revulsion with the man's behavior, I think "Love and Death" was his cinematic swan song. Everything else is too mannered or derivative for me.
I still dig Woody Allen's movies. It's a pity some people have trouble seperating the art from the artist.
"for me, cheap is good" hahahah

I LOVE this (and Woody)
Thank you, Caroline.
Great little tribute to a great little man.
I never "got" any of his movies, saw his creepiness before it became real, and continue to loathe him and his work. This post just underlines all that I have ever thought about him.
And believe me, dear friends continue to argue with me about his relevance as a filmaker. I hated every single movie of his that I ever watched. Even walked out of a couple, so I have given him a chance as an artist.
Now he sounds delusional!
I'm sorry I missed this - huge Woody fan.
Lea: I would love to hear about that meeting

Placebostudman: I think he's very hit of miss for people

littlewillie: that's what I try to do, too

Lou: couldn't agree more

Sparking, Foolish Monkey, and aim: I understand where you're coming from. I just can't help myself, though. I watch a film like Stardust Memories and I'm just filled with awe.

Cranky: I think you would have loved it

Jeff: I have many favorites (excluding a couple obvious stinkers).

Robert: I dig them, too

Amanda: he is a great little movie making man

D Art: I'm sorry you missed it, too!
I like his comments (taken out of content) except for Audrey. She is sexy regardless of the man's age because she is sexy without being sexy. She has a certain chaste sexiness to her. R
Even though you're not my daughter, you are still grounded. LOL, R
To me it isn't a problem of separating a man from his art, but reluctance to give support to the man for the sake of his art. I do like the last comment about Brando.
Trudge: I, too, am a fan of Audrey's understated sexiness factor

Thoth: fair is fair:)

Bellwether: I understand where you're coming from. I often feel that way, but in his case his films are such a huge part of my mental life and my experience of cinema and my city, etc. that I can't turn my back on them.
So you're a sizeable Woody Allen fan? What size, 9 1/2B, 16 X 35, or 40 DD?
sheepdog: I'd say more like compact pickup size, hee hee.
I liked some of his movies but overall I agree with your mom. He is an overly intellectual doushbag, who likes women that are too young for him. Rated because i like you!
As pointed out by others commenting: sometimes brilliant, sometimes dead wrong, occasionally in between, and perhaps not the best person to talk about the moral power of anything at all...
Along the lines of FoolishMonkey, for me his humor was that self deprecating nerdy intellectual almost helplessness about his persona that made much of his stuff funny. When you find out he's not only not powerless but doing some of the things he joked about it just makes it creepy at this point. But like Lea I like his early stuff.
blindog, Nikki, and Anne: You make good points. Thanks for reading.
My friend just sent me revealing, long(!) new interview with woody about his love for jazz, his life, and his 'ladykiller streak'. Fascinating stuff and very well written and he hit on the writer, which is very humorously captured !

http://www.villagevoice.com/2010-06-01/music/the-jazz-evangelism-of-woody-allen
Rita: very, very cool.