Catherine Forsythe

Catherine Forsythe
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know a bit about computer security, dogs, horses, skiing, medicine and making risotto. My nickname in real life/online is "Noggie" - I'm on Twitter, with the @dogreader account.

JULY 27, 2010 11:40AM

Naming An Example of an Open Salon Cheat

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I am bumping a 'semi food' post I put up this morning. I want to name an Open Salon account that continually games the "Most Recent" time line. The account is "Justin Fogarty". You will see that the post has a time stamp of "JULY 27, 2010 7:10PM EDT", if you look at the Most Recent time line. I am absolutely positive it is not even afternoon yet on the east coast. Therefore, this Justin Fogarty post will sit at the top of the time line and give the impression that Open Salon remains static because his post will remain there for hours and hours. 

I posted about the problem yesterday. I will copy the post here. It simply is not fair to all the people who will post from now until 7:10 PM EDT. 

Justin Fogarty, you do this repeatedly and it is cheating.

Catherine Forsythe

...  copy of the post about Openly and Intentionally Cheat on Open Salon

There is a growing practice among some Open Salon Accounts. They cheat the "Most Recent" time line. The time stamp is manipulated so that they are on the top of the time list and remain there for hours (and sometimes into the next day).

It is cheating. It is done intentionally, with an old hacker's trick. 

I have drawn this to the attention of the Open Salon Editor and the Web Analytics manager. Why this is so annoying is that, at a quick glance, the same posting remains on top of the time list. This gives the impression that there is no new material on Open Salon, which is indeed not the case. That may not be a problem for the people who frequent the site often during the day and contribute. However, for the casual visitor, it gives the impression that the site has been static, since the same post is that the top of the page. 

This impacts upon all the people who post legitimately. I, for one, am really tired of it. To those who manipulate the time stamp, 'play fairly'. I am going to start pointing out accounts that do this - perhaps drawing direct attention to this practice will prevent it somewhat. I doubt it but maybe it will relieve my anger somewhat.

Catherine Forsythe

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I guess I don't understand how or why this is done. It seems silly. R-
Thanks for calling out these folks.
Huh. I didn't realize that this was a common thing. (Or at least that more than one person does it.)
What Will said!

What's the point of him doing that? Does OS pay extra?
I had no ide what this was.. I am lucky if I can post I am so cyberly stupid.
Wow, had no idea and rated with hugs
Thank you, Catherine. It really does seem ridiculous that someone would do this. Unless we get paid by the hour on the "most recent" feed..._r
For now I will agree with Stellaa and see if it is really a glitch; but if not, then let the bloodletting commence!
Thanks for your courage to point this out. Why would anyone be so blatantly dishonest?
If it is not a glitch triggered by the fact that this guy's OS site is just a feed from another blog, it is probably done to try and get more traffic.

It's worthwhile to note that there are similar sins going on here and elsewhere, all geared toward getting people to come to your site. It is relatively harmless--no animal testing required, for instance--but it also reduces the utility of the Internet.

It seems unscrupulous to me, for instance, to use tags on a post that are not really relevant. If I pull "Bill Clinton" out of my snark box and stick that name in a post, I should not put "Bill Clinton" in the tags since it was merely a snarky remark and there is no actual content related to the former President in my post.

But a LOT of people will "game" the tags so that they get more page views (not just on OS, but all over the 'Net). This results in more difficulty for people who are genuinely searching for information about Clinton.

(Definitely not directed at you, Catherine!)
Thanks for this...I just joined today, but on other sites I see that happen all the time. It never occurred that this was what the deal was and, yes, it stinks. Moderators on these things need to pay attention and do their jobs.
Splendid catch, Catherine. Of course, it could be time stamping is "legal" in terms of the terms; however, it is general accepted as cheating the others who play by the intentions of OS.
Still, the example on which you haved seized should offer enough proof for the good editorial staff of OS to construct amended terms that will prohibit this unfair and unethical activity.
Good for you for speaking up, Catherine!
Wooooooooo, baby. Remind me not to piss you off.
Thanks for your comments. I am checking this post while there is a short break in the real-world day.

Perhaps I should provide a bit more background. Previously, when I found the Fogarty account doing this, I informed the Web Analytics Manager. I did this several times. The Web Analytics Manager [Charles] attempted to contact the account and did not receive any reply. Therefore, patience has been extended to this account. The courtesy was not returned. And that's why I posted this.

I see that the offending post has been removed. I think Emily, Charles and the tech team should be commended for their attention to this matter.

Again, my thanks to all who have visited and who have commented...
Great job Catherine. R
I called Justin too. I can't repeat what I called him in polite company. The most recent list appears to be running smoothly at this hour. Thanks Catherine.
Hi Katherine,
Thanks for pointing this out. I had no idea this was afoot. Rated!
PS -- Sorry! I meant Catherine!!
I've seen this before, but never could figure out how it was done. I hate it when people cheat!

Lezlie
Thanks for catching this, Catherine. We all struggle for recognition of our writing. Seems a bit small to conspire to steal the "most recent" spotlight.
I noticed the other day that momlink made a post that was dated the following day, so her post hovered at the top of the New Posts list for 24 hours. Most others rotated on and off again in 5 - 10 minutes.
What a wanker! That should warrant a temporary ban.