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Clay Farris Naff

Clay Farris Naff
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Clay Farris Naff (claynaff.com) is a science writer with a special interest in the rational reconciliation of religions with science. You can follow him at Twitter @claynaff, or visit his religion blog at www.huffingtonpost.com/clay-naff An award-winning journalist and author, he has been a science-and-religion columnist for the Metanexus Institute, an editor for Greenhaven Press, and a freelance writer for various publications, including most recently Earth magazine and The Humanist.

NOVEMBER 8, 2009 11:24AM

The Entropy of Trees*

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Can Science Provide An Excuse for Goofing Off?
(*apologies to Enya)
Raking Leaves

    With the World Series over, I could no longer put off raking leaves. The one time I wanted it to rain on a weekend, the skies were blue and the temperature fine. Muttering sullenly, I let my thoughts wander from a Homer Simpson oath -- "Stupid trees!" -- to a pseudo-sociological critique: "Why do we feel the need to tidy up after nature? What would be so bad about letting the leaves go their own ways?"
    Rake, rake, bag, bag.
    For awhile I distracted myself with the malicious pleasure of despising people who engage in status competitions over the purity of their lawns. "I mean, who needs to see what's under the leaves in November?" I grumbled. "Tari and I know better. We're only doing this so our neighbors don't get mad at us."
    But the more I chewed on that thought, the less flavorful it became. So I let my mind wander again, and this time it flitted to entropy. Living things, I recalled, bring high degrees of complex order to the environment, but only at the cost of higher overall disorder. A worm, for example, is a highly ordered little soil-processing machine. It takes in all sorts of order at one end and puts out a nicely randomized "cast" at the other. And so, for that matter, do you and I. The only difference is that in addition, we go to work, pay taxes, and have a little fun into the bargain.
    All living things produce more disorder than order. The Second Law of Thermodynamics assures us this is so. And here, in these endless sackfuls of brown leaves, was dead proof.
    Rake, rake, bag, bag.
    Entropy is the scientific name for disorder, but like many concepts in science, it doesn't translate neatly into ordinary language. It sounds like a bad thing, but without entropy the world would appear even more chaotic. The flow of time would be unpredictable (as it is in the quantum world), and you could never be sure which direction energy would take. Entropy gives our world predictability: in the long run, everything runs down.
    Despite my distaste for raking leaves, I do prefer order to chaos. I'm sure you do, too.  It's a deeply ingrained human tendency. Yet, contrary to what we might expect, a little disequilibrium is no bad thing. We could not live without it.
    Murray Gell-Mann, the 1969 Nobel laureate in physics, explains this in a marvelously wide-ranging book whose title, The Quark and the Jaguar, just happens to remind us that it was he, Murray Gell-Mann, who named the chief component of nuclear particles. (Like most giants of theoretical physics, Gell-Mann overwhelms us with modesty.)
    "[I]f the environment in question is at the center of the sun, at a temperature of tens of millions of degrees, there is almost total randomness ... [and] nothing like life can exist. Nor can there be such a thing as life if the environment is a perfect crystal at a temperature of absolute zero.... For a complex adaptive system [Gell-Mann's way of describing life and its analogues] to function, conditions are required that are intermediate between order and disorder." (pp. 115-116)
     Rake, rake, bag, bag.
    To put this another way, if either order or entropy max out, we're dead. We only live because we're able to take advantage of a 10 billion-year local transition from order to disorder. Thanks to gravity, our Sun is at disequilibrium with its environment. It is trying as hard as it can to get back to equilibrium by radiating away billions of tons of its mass every second, and life on Earth is soaking up as much of that radiated energy as possible. We, and the rest of the animal kingdom, are merely parasites feeding second-hand  on that energy and its byproducts, as harvested by plants and autotrophic microorganisms.
    All of us, in turn, radiate away unusable energy, as well as producing waste by various other means. Over the nearly 4 billion year evolution of life, the global ecosystem has developed amazingly efficient means of extracting all the available energy in the system. Thus, the waste that mammals produce can be fertilizer for crops, and the leaves that trees drop can feed the worms that turn the soil. There is a lesson in all this.
    A little disorder on the lawn is no bad thing. To be a good steward of the planet, I should let the rest of those leaves lie exactly where they are. And so I shall! Thank you, science!
    

 

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interesting ideas, but some not accurate. it doesnt make too much sense to classify all life as "parasitic" on the sun. also, entropy is defined in terms of nonliving processes. I think its an open question about the relationship of entropy to living organisms.
the sun will burn out in a few billion years....
one of my favorite metaphors for entropy, for which anyone can identify, is the way mechanical stuff is always breaking [and is costly to fix]. Ive had to replace dvd players, blenders, washing machine, water heater, furnace, stuff on my car, 1080p hidef tv, roof on the house, etcetera.....
darn, uzn beat me to the parasite punch.. but life is generally more consumers of the sun's energy than a parasite since we don't have a negative effect on the Sun. Similarly, bacteria in our guts aren't parasitic nor consumers but instead symbiotic because we benefit from their survival within us.

Even consumers in the sense of killing and eating other animals are still not considered parasitic - perhaps because in death is a complete lack of suffering since there is no consciousness of any consequences at all.
"All living things produce more disorder than order. The Second Law of Thermodynamics assures us this is so. "
Not so! It would be more accurate to say that DYING things produce more disorder than order. A living leaf, for example, takes in energy and produces more order, in its chemistry, within itself or its tree.
I was also taken with the Entropy theme, but vzn's (ah, I see now that it's a V not a U) description of entropy as a nonliving process also seems to miss the boat as I understand it.

Entropy has to do with energy - which also translates to matter and everything else. The hiccup when it comes to living processes is that they actually use energy to rebuild their constantly expiring cells, tissues, organs, themselves, society, environment, etc.

Entropy is still very much present in living systems - proved by the fact that if the energy of the sun were to ever blink out, then life would soon follow suit until a form of life figures out a way to tap into other forms of energy - or eliminate/minimize the need to consume energy to that which is available to them.

On the issue of leaves - the only order I see is more of a moral than a scientific dilemma. If no one cares, then it's a waste of time. If they do - and you benefit from satisfying their desires, then it's not a waste of time.

Better to err on the side of caution, I'd think - the consequences of being considered a bad neighbor (especially long term) can be distressful. Though, I'm not sure how far one can push leaf-covered lawns to an extreme such as heralding the demise of an entire neighborhood. ;)
dear uncle clay;

that was really funny! i liked the reference to Homer. I also know what you mean by "But the more I chewed on that thought, the less flavorful it became." That happens all the time with my homework.

love, Nainoa
Delighted to have you all read and comment, but I am surprised by a few things said here. First, I did not mean to suggest that life is a parasite on the Sun. What I wrote should be understood as stating that animal life is parasitical of the solar energy harvested by plants.

Second, some of you question whether life produces more disorder than order. It does. A leaf is not an organism, but only a part of one. Take a tree as a whole and, like anything else with a metabolism, it cannot help but increase entropy over its life cycle. Whatever order it produces is paid for by a net surplus of entropy. However, we get so much "free" energy from the sun (plus a bit from geothermal and chemical sources in the Earth) to put to work in building order that it appears to us as if life is increasing the amount of overall order. This is an illusion. If you could trace the fate of every particle involved in the transactions of life, you'd find that on average they are more disordered when life is done with them than before.

Ed, I refer you to Schroedinger's What is Life, a book I know you've read, for more on this from an authoritative source. He scorns the idea that life feeds on "energy," and instead argues that life feeds on "negative entropy" to stave off the decay to equilibrium. You can find the relevant passages here: http://dieoff.org/page150.htm

Best regards,


Clay
I havent read schroedinger, but I think your citation itself suggests there are different scientific attitudes about the relationship between living organisms and entropy than the one you state in the essay.
still think it is misleading to talk about living things as increasing disorder. I take your point about an ultimate increase in entropy, but living things obviously are sophisticated systems designed to increase order within the organism at the expense of order in the environment, while they are alive at least. in this sense, they violate the law of increase in entropy, or "temporarily work against it". in a sense life borrows temporarily against the entropy in the universe. I admit I have not read a scientist stating this, its just my own observation.
ps an excellent reference on parasites I have read is "parasite rex". again I dont think its accurate to say we are parasitic on plants. arguably, living nonplant organisms have a symbiotic relationship with plants [eg in the carbon dioxide/oxygen exchange, and in many other ways]. in zimmers book it is said that a stunning 3/5 species on earth are parasites. but term begins to lose meaning if you say, "everything is a parasite".
those interested in entropy might amuse themselves by looking into the way it seems to now start showing up in computer science. basically, computer science has found that the study of randomness or disorder is at the core of complexity theory and eg deep questions like P=?NP. so in some ways, computer science is now in the process of articulating an exact mathematical definition of entropy that is more detailed than prior ideas that emerge from physics.
a more accurate statement you will find in biology books is that "all biological life energy comes from the sun" either somewhat directly via photosynthesis, or indirectly via animals that eat plants and harvest the energy indirectly.
you say, over the long run, "life produces more disorder than order". I dont think thermodynamics or entropy laws say that entropy is "produced". maybe they do, but its not the best term. entropy is more of a byproduct of [all] chemical reactions. biological life, and presumably all forms of conceivable life, is entirely based on chemical reactions. so lets say that the sun burns out and life on earth disappears as a result. did the living organisms "use up" their entropy budget in the same way that an energy budget is used up? [the "produce" terminology suggests this perspective] I dont think so. did the sun use up its entropy budget either? not really. in this way entropy is different than energy.
I wish I had read this before I raked the entire lawn this afternoon. On the other had, I was paid over $70 for it, so not a complete waste of time. Someone in our neighborhood -- or at least, my day thinks that someone in our neighborhood -- must care.
I should read my comments before I post them. "On the other had" should be "On the other hand" and "my day thinks" should be "my dad thinks"