Christmas: A Time for Science and Religion to Make Peace
The Time Has Come to Put an End
to the Needless Conflict
Between Two Great Human Institutions

What kind of world do we live in? That's a question that both science and religion attempt to answer. In the next few days, a pair of notable anniversaries will illuminate the kind of answers that each one gives.
So long as they don't tread on each other's feet, each can give a valid answer about this most fundamental of questions. Unfortunately, all too often science is regarded as a threat precisely because religion clings to illusions about the kind of world we live in.
As we all saw on December 26, 2004, ours is a world in which natural events take place without regard to human wishes or well-being. The Indian Ocean tsunami struck near and far, wreaking havoc without warning and claiming more than 200,000 lives. The most distinguishing feature of the victims was not their religion, moral worth, or talent, but their bad luck in being poor coastal dwellers.
Science can explain in great detail what led to the tsunami. In brief, one tectonic plate slipped under another off the coast of Sumatra, displacing a huge volume of water that rolled away in an expanding wave until it reached shorelines. Pretty simple, really. It's something that has happened many times before. Yet, an astonishing number of people were ready to interpret this natural disaster as the deliberate act of an angry God.
The excellent Religioustolerance.org site has archived some of them, and you only have to browse to see that if in fact God meant the tsunami to be a message, He failed miserably to convey His meaning. Was it a blow against abortion? Homosexuality? Fornication? Muslim oppression? Hindu shinanigans? Buddhist misconduct? Or just worldwide moral turpitude? Nothing in the tsunami itself offers any guidance, but the religious orientation of the speaker is a strong predictor of the answer.
All such attempts to interpret natural events as divine acts are, I suggest, deeply misguided. They are holdovers from the prehistoric origins of science and religion, which in all probability were born as twins in the cradle of human civilization.
Today, science decisively shows that the physical world we inhabit operates according to natural laws and chance, and is entirely indifferent to human needs or desires. To be sure, we are well adapted to this world, and our ability to remodel our environment to suit us makes life infinitely more comfortable for the lucky ones of us who live in technologically advanced societies. Still, we can never take our comfort for granted. As the tsunami showed, everything can change in an instant. Yet, religion tells us that, in a larger sense, we live in a world of hope. It directs our attention to ultimate reality, that which lies beyond the observable bounds of nature.
If religion offers hope, science provides much of the actual comfort we enjoy. In 19th century America, despite all the prayers and piety of the times, nearly every family lost at least one child to disease. Some were wiped out altogether. In the 20th century, deaths from infectious diseases plummeted, thanks to scientific understanding of germs and the remedies provided by sanitation, antibiotics, and vaccines.
Despite this historical evidence, there are still people who believe that prayer effects cures. It is a forlorn hope. If that were the case, why did a third of Europe's population die during the great plagues of the late Middle Ages, when Europe was known as Christendom? You think they didn't pray hard enough?
Through science, we can know when hurricanes are approaching, stave off epidemics, anticipate volcanic eruptions, and explore other worlds. Science has succeeded better than any other human endeavor in discovering how nature works and turning understanding into mastery.
Why, then, is science so bitterly opposed by some religionists? I suggest that it is because they mistakenly believe that religious narratives provide a roadmap to the physical world, and that if that map proves false then faith must fail. This is a double error, one that has caused much needless anguish and harm. I suspect one reason for the confusion lies in the common origin of science and religion.
Along with religion, science began when hunter-gatherers applied their collective wisdom to deciphering tracks, recording and then predicting seasonal migration routes, and then trying to back their skill with rituals, prayers, and sacrifices. How do we know this if it all happened before recorded history? As is often the case in science, we have various lines of evidence that converge on a single conclusion. Anthropologists have observed the remarkable powers of deduction that "primitive" hunters employ in the few hunter-gatherer societies that remain. At times they make Sherlock Holmes look like a slacker.
Archaeologists have found evidence of human and animal co-migration, and the success of the human hunters is all too evident in the loss of much of the wild megafauna in the world. Bye bye, mammoth; so long, moa; dear old dodo, fare thee well.
As for religion, it too dates back long before the rise of agricultural societies. The cave paintings of Lascaux have been authoritatively deciphered as magico-religious icons for young hunters undergoing the ritual of induction into the troop. Some uncertainty remains, of course, but there are so many similar examples of ancient ritual intended to make the environment more friendly to humans that there can be little doubts about the broad origins and functions of religion. That of course does not invalidate any particular religious narrative, but it does put them all in a context worth pondering.
The tradition that I am culturally closest to is the one that dominates American religious life: Christianity. And the anniversary that Christians will soon be celebrating is the birthday of Jesus Christ. Only, it isn't. If there is one thing that religious scholars agree on, it is that there is virtually no likelihood that Jesus of Nazareth was born December 25th. It is a mythical birthday -- no less important for all that.
How do we know? Multiple reasons lead any open inquiry to conclude that this particular date is highly unlikely to be the actual anniversary of Jesus's birth. The gospels offer no date for the birth of Jesus. What clues there are tend to point to other times of the year - spring seems to be the favorite of scholars, though some argue for fall.
Most important, however, is that December 25th was the date of at least one pre-existing pagan religious holiday. It was co-opted by Christianity as it spread throughout the Roman Empire. The original significance of the date was most likely tied to the winter solstice, which it follows by a few days. (Bear in mind that the calendar was unstable until the 16th century.) Despite marking the beginning of winter in the Northern hemisphere, it also contains the seeds of hope, inasmuch as every day after the solstice grows longer and longer, while the gloom of night gradually recedes. No wonder, then that some of the central symbols of Christmas, such as the illuminated Christmas tree, retain their pagan origins as symbols of light.
Here we come to the gates of religion's true realm. Myths and symbols have tremendous power, and seen in the proper light they can be forces for good in society. It is when people wrongheadedly insist on making scripture do the work of science that things go wrong. Just as insisting on December 25th being the actual, literal, no-two-ways-about-it birthday of Jesus entirely misses the point of Christmas, so trying to rig the evidence of science to support a literal interpretation of scripture completely misses the point of religion. Instead of being a beacon of hope, it becomes a charlatan.
Science and religion long ago parted ways, and this is as it should be. Science has nothing to say about the realm of religion. If there are souls, spirits, demons, angels, and of course God, they are metaphysical entities. (Does any theologian dispute this?) As such, science must remain mum about them ... until someone goes and makes a foolish claim about their action in the physical world. Does God direct the weather? Recombine the genes of flu each season? Pick the winners of football games? C'mon. Surely He has better things to do.
That's where science-religion conflicts arise, and by any honest accounting, religion loses everytime. There are no moral patterns in nature. (If there were, would we have so many good and decent people stranded in airports this Christmas?) The evidence overwhelmingly shows that nature operates according to natural laws and chance -- not some supernatural gameplan. Events like the 2004 "Christmas" tsunami take place without the least regard for the religion people follow, their moral worth, or their just deserts. That is the kind of world we live in.
This does not, however, mean that faith is bunk, or that we live in a world without hope. The more science discovers, the deeper reality appears to be. Solid steel is mostly empty space. Time, at the subatomic level, moves forward and backward, or disappears altogether. Place loses its clarity and becomes mere probability. Things themselves become less certain than the quantum numbers that define them.
Who is to say that no metaphysical reality underlies the physics we have so far been able to probe? No one with any authority or evidence, that much is for sure. Indeed, physics calls on a metaphysical system -- math -- to reach the depths it has so far explored.
Methodological naturalism -- the working assumption that there is nothing more than laws and chance operating in nature -- is an indispensible tool of most sciences, but it does not necessarily capture the ultimate truth. It is entirely possible, for example, that the world we inhabit is the handiwork of a Creator who set everything in motion and then left it alone to play out according to his intentions.
Deism, as that form of belief is known, has a long and noble pedigree. Its founding American adherents include Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and George Washington. Among the more recent notable deists was Albert Einstein.
However, deism is not the only possible truth consistent with the world that science reveals. It's also possible, for example, that there are contending deities, whose moves and countermoves cancel each other out to such an extent that the world looks natural all the way down. This is more or less what the Greeks believed, and it is not far off what many fundamentalists believe -- if you strip away the overlying superstition.
There are many more possibilities than these. It's not for me to tell anyone what to believe about ultimate reality. That is the true subject of religion, and for all I know there may be more than one true answer.
My purpose here is only to offer this Christmas wish: may we all find a way to accept the world as science shows it to be without abandoning hope of a better future, however we may conceive it to be. To my Christian friends and secular celebrants of Yuletide, Merry Christmas! To all others, Joy of the Season! And with the new year, let us get to work building a better world.


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I have never been a big fan of the Christianity, I'm not a member of any religious order, but religious stories in totality are still fascinating me. I even once spent some time in a Zen Buddhist monastery.
I like your Hubble photo above your head.
Merry Christmas!
Ed Pearlstein
(I have a whole rant about Christianity trying to stop the cycles of nature by claiming a One Time Only thing...but I'll spare you...)
Tho I do realize that Christmas (obviously tied to the solstice) is a slightly different date due to, as you say, the instability of the calendar until 'recently'.
I have little use for mainstream religion, but have no problem reconciling (or whatever) my own religion with science because I regard religion as an artistic way of looking at things. The divide is not between science and religion but, as at university, between the arts and the sciences. With, of course, religious studies in the arts section. Religion mostly, however, and mistakenly (IMO), is taken literally. As if, since Picasso (for instance) had an epiphany about where to place eyes in his portraits and a whole cult sprang up claiming, against all reason, that people *really* have both eyes on one side of their heads no matter what other people claim or their own senses tell them...
Merry Christmas! (Merry solstice being passed and all...)
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Religion has little or nothing to say to science. Science has a great deal to say about religion. We can now explain in scientific terms virtually all of the mysteries that religion proposes with accurate and elegant explanations.
At the core of this discussion is the desire that religious people have to find some order in the chaos of existence, while scientists delight in finding the chaos that underlies the apparent order.
In fact, there is no challenge between religion and science at all. Science goes about doing what it does - offering us understanding of ourselves and our universe. Religion, however, keeps spewing its collection of lies via fundamentally weak-minded people who while crying false tears and pointing the finger at the bully they call 'science'. It's the childish brat who wants to get its way saying how "moral" they are when in fact they are amongst the most immoral of us all.
Make no mistake, peace on earth is a lovely idea. Just don't be so stupid as to believe it will happen while religion is still practiced.
The really fundamental disagreement between science and religion is not about specific issues and conclusions, but about the way of arriving at conclusions.
Where religion bases its conclusions on authority--from a person,
book, or tradition-- science bases its conclusions on evidence and
reasoning.
A scientific investigation starts with a question, and tries to find
an answer through observation, experiment, and self-critical reasoning. A theological investigation, though, starts with an answer, and, if evidence and reasoning get in the way of that answer, the theologian will wiggle through, or put a spin on, the evidence and logic.
In religion, it is generally considered a great virtue to "believe",
almost without questioning and certainly without wavering. In science, the virtue is in questioning, looking for holes in any line of thinking, and being susceptible to new ideas.
A scientific conclusion is always open to change, as new evidence or
reasoning comes along. Science evolves. But a religious conclusion is supposed to be eternal and universal, regardless of evidence and reasoning.
Science looks for order and predictable cause-and-effect
relationships. Attributing something to un-understandable whimsy is, scientifically, a pessimistic outlook, since it says that there is no hope for research going deeper.
With some people, phenomena not understood are relegated to the realm of supernatural--a "God of the gaps". But as things that were once not understood become understood, this realm gets smaller and smaller. For example, most of us no longer attribute bad weather and diseases to curses, mental disease and epilepsy to possession by demons, or earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and eclipses to angry gods.
Many people, including some very intelligent ones, seem to
compartmentalize their thinking. It's as if they use different parts of the mind for science, religion, politics, economics, etc., with very few interconnections between those parts--an apartheid of the intellect.
With only a few minutes to go before I must board a plain back to the frozen tundra of Nebraska, I am forced to lump the responses into two groups rather than respond to them individually. With apologies, here goes:
Some of you seem to think there are no real conflicts between science and religion, and some of you seem to think that science has already proven religion false.
One of my central points was that there are real conflicts -- at least in the way that most religions are structured. They try to do the work of science in explaining the natural world. In this they clearly fail to conform to the evidence, and will always fail. Science is an ever-progressing enterprise, while religion has no mechanism for keeping up. Moreover, many religions make claims that clearly violate the natural laws that science has discovered. Perhaps the most important of these is the law of conservation of energy, which most claims of supernatural action violate.
However, if you accept my short definition of religion -- a cultural and institutional response to shared perceptions of ultimate reality -- you can see that these conflicts are not entailed by religion. They are merely habit.
To the extent that religion confines itself to metaphysics, and speaks only of the influence of metaphysical entities on human actions, no conflict is necessary. In that sense, science has not disproven religion, and has no interest in doing so.
However, the unhappy fact remains that religion does not yet accept such limitations on its domain. In all but a few instances, it attempts to be a totalistic description of the world, and from that position to dictate norms. "Thou shalt not..."
A growing number of people in the advanced countries reject such old-time religion. Even in America, the number of "unchurched" is growing fast. As yet, however, the reforms that would make religion fully compatible with science and modern democratic society have yet to be worked out. As unlikely as success may appear to be to some, I still hope to make a further contribution to that effort.
Cheers,
Clay
Glad to see you "back" (for a few minutes any way before heading on home to ... what? The latest snow storm?). I read your initial (12/24) post on 12/25 (call it whatever you will or won't) and came back here hoping primarily to find the thread was still alive.
Well, of course, it didn't occur to me to sign my initial comment (it had gotten pretty long and, I feared, overbearing or just plain self-absorbed), so it never got posted.
No great loss, let me assure you!
So this time I'll say nothing either wise or particularly unwise except to repeat greetings to all; hopes the thread stays active (happy stress-free travelling ... if possible?!) and, yes, I agree -- get those phishers out of here somehow, somebody! [Though it did in part strike the bone of my more cynical elbow of the two....]
podunkmarte
Dec. 26, 2009
The fundamental problem is not an inherent conflict between science and religion, but that some loud and visible elements of religion have fought against rather than incorporating new understanding from science. They don't want to concede that which is obvious- that science provides a far better explanation of the material world that the childish literalism they cling to. In this they show that they understand neither science or religion. It's as if science had failed to let go of alchemy or astrology. The fact that these religious explanations are able to persist is evidence of a huge failure in our educational systems for both science and religion.
Religion need conflict with science no more than music does. Holst's orchestral suite "The Planets" is not just astronomy poorly done, it is a different sort of expression altogether. No one expects the music to explain the solar system in the same way astronomy does. In my view that does not render the music pointless, just different. Now, if "orchestral fundamentalists" wanted to insist that Holst's score provided the authoritative version of the solar system, and tried to make science fit it- well, we have a problem.
This is not "God of the Gaps", with religion covering what science doesn't (at the moment) explain. Religion can't be about explaining anything at all- it's not about coming to conclusions or finding answers to the way things work. Religion and myth tried to do that at one time, but now we have science, which is a far better tool. Those who try to make it do so (fundamentalists, literalists, creationists, "intelligent design" adherents, new agers) are absolutely doomed to failure.
Religion is a human activity like music, or art, or poetry, or storytelling, a way we give deep personal meaning to things. Religious belief- saying "I believe in God"- is not like saying I believe in the Loch Ness Monster, or "I believe the earth orbits the sun", but like saying "I believe in the power of music". It's a fundamentally aesthetic choice about what gives meaning to a person- or maybe just a celebration of existence. I don't have to compartmentalize any thinking to respond to religious symbols any more than I do to respond to literary ones.
It doesn't work equally for everyone, any more than everyone responds to music in the same way (or at all). Some may see it as pointless. But there is no deep seated conflict between science (properly understood) and religion (properly understood and not really tribalism or ethnocentrism masquerading as religion).
Fundamentalism is unfortunately the most visible aspect of "religion", at the moment, and it really isn't about spiritual things at all, but about politics and power. Most of what gets labeled as "Christianity" in the U.S. is not- it's an amalgam of nationalism, ethnocentrism, capitalist ideology, hypocrisy, hostility to new ideas, and stupidity. Many of the posts here are responding to that mashup rather then to any modern theological thought (and no, that is NOT oxymoronic).
It's apparent that there is not as much theological literacy as scientific literacy here. Not surprising, since most people's education in religious subjects ends before they are old enough to think abstractly. But to borrow a scientific concept, it's important to attack ideas at their strongest, not their weakest.
I worked hard at University to understand the genesis of democracy and the social contract. Along the way it seemed Heidegger was so right, that Metaphysics was a long bad wood-rose trip that would, after much retching, reach its eventual end and the hallucinations would end.
But, so far Math trumps all else for out central nervous system and string, super-string and bubble equations are "Magic", (so's fractal geometry) -- there it all all is, at least what we can ascertain so far.
The numbers say a bang occurred, the telescopes let us see it, measure it, feel it, we feel it 24/7! So, a bubble started it and like you said, it might have been random- but, it might not. So, I am back to square one. This Christmas God brought Oahu tall waves, the best present ever! Thanks, Mom and a great 2010 to all.
IMUA
Belief doesn't always mean assent to a logical proposition- it can mean a choice to follow a path.
Religion doesn't necessarily imply anything supernatural. One can be quire spiritual and religious without any magical beliefs. In my view, any religious beliefs that can't get along with science need some serious rethinking. Religion is a sort of separate sphere from science, like art or music, but those shouldn't conflict with science either.
I'm 100% with you on wanting people to stop imposing their ideas on others, confusing politics and religion.
Merry Christmas
It's faith. That is why you can never prove or disprove it, that's why it's called faith. As for how science works how about this. God put it here and gave us the mental ability and free will to figure it out and make the best of it.
Your treatise please.
We don't know from were we came, who we are and where we are going.
Some people have got beliefs about, the science doesn't know.
Actually, the logic of Pascal's Wager points to ethical agnosticism. I've written an essay on this very subject for the Metanexus Global Spiral. You can read it at:
http://www.metanexus.net/magazine/tabid/68/id/6927/Default.aspx
Cheers,
Clay
Ed Pearlstein
Pascal's wager is a response to disbelief in the Christian God. Pascal approaches the question as a gambler would, weighing the risks against the possible payoff. (Blaise Pascal, 1623-62, was a French philosopher, mathematician, scientist, and theologian. He was a founder of probability theory.) So, he says, one should believe, since if the belief turns out to be correct, much is gained, but if it turns out to be wrong, nothing is lost. In other words, it's a "play safe" argument. It's like the insurance salesman's pitch that starts with "What if....?".
Note that the wager doesn’t address the question of whether a god exists, but instead is just a recruiting slogan. Thinking a little beyond the slogan, I see several problems with Pascal’s idea, any one of which would disqualify it as a reason for belief in God:
(1) Pascal says we should believe; but sincere belief is not something that can be turned on and off, although one can pretend to believe something and go through the motions. Presumably, a god could tell whether a person is sincere or just trying to play safe.
(2) The "gambler" is not faced with a simple either-or choice, but a large number of choices. Pascal tacitly assumed that the only god in question is the Christian god, with attributes, rewards, and punishments as described by the Catholic Church. However, there are many other possible choices for what to believe (or pretend to believe) .
Which god(s), and which form of belief: Hebrew, Christian (several variations), Muslim, Hindu, Zoroastrian, American Indian, Voodoo, ancient Greek and Roman ...? All of them have had many sincere adherents. One can't worship or believe in them all, or even compromise, since in some cases worshipping one of these gods will antagonize another one. Remember that the god of the Hebrews is explicitly jealous. Maybe some of the other gods are too. So you might have more to lose by wagering on the wrong god than by wagering on none at all!
Maybe one should go for whichever god promises the greatest reward and threatens the direst consequences. (Sort of like we vote for politicians!)
(3) Suppose we assume that there is a god and only one god. But maybe the real god is a bit different from the Old Testament god, in that he (she, it) hates having people always trying to kiss his butt, does not approve of the killing of animals for religious sacrifice, and prefers people to have enough self respect that they won't do those things. Maybe the god (or gods) prefers people to listen to reason rather than have faith in mythology.
Another possibility is that he wants us to annually throw a virgin into the crater of a volcano! How does one know?
(4) In the spirit of "just in case" or "what if", we should take precautions against voodoo curses, avoid bad luck brought on by black cats, knock on wood, and throw salt over the left shoulder. We should go to every fortune teller, psychic, and astrologer, for maybe one of them is legitimate. Always carry a crucifix and a bulb of garlic, just in case the stories about vampires are true. We should follow all the 600-odd rules for living as laid down in the Bible books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy. This paragraph might seem like just a cheap attempt at reductio ad absurdum, but I maintain it's more, since all of the above have their sincere believers.
And regardless of whether there are gods, we should be good boys and girls, just in case it's true that we are under the surveillance of Santa Claus!
Our conception of god is mutable and changing. That doesn't necessarily mean god changes, just that we understand he/she/it differently based on our experience and background. Even within Pascal's Christian tradition, there are evolving, mutually incompatible notions of god in the Bible.The god in the Bible clearly evolves from a local, tribal deity (in a time of small, tribal conflicts) to a nationalist god intent on getting a large group of people to follow a set of rules (in a time of building nation-states, where larger social structures became important), to the New Testament with a much more metaphysical conception of god as love and logos (when philosophy and broad cultural contacts challenged ethnicity and group identity).
The notion of god as a very big and powerful entity, a sort of prime contractor able to knock together the universe the way a carpenter builds a house, is useful if you are trying to exert control over and dominate others- it's a strongly authoritarian image. That's why this structure appeals so much to fundamentalists, i.e. those psychologically disposed to seek and follow authority. But it is anti-scientific, and in a theological context is essentially idolatrous. Unfortunately, thanks to the fundamentalists, it's also the notion of god that is most widely disseminated in popular culture. Oh, and politicians find it useful, too.
Christianity and Buddhism, arising at about the same time in history, are actually rooted in a much different place. They do not see god as any kind of entity. Seeking god is a way of relating to the mystery of why there is anything at all. They don't seek to explain how the universe works, but express wonder and gratitude that it IS. They are human expressions, like music, and make an existential assertion of the power of love. Not that they haven't been co-opted and distorted frequently for authoritarian ends- "caring for the sick, and feeding the hungry" turned into the Inquisition and the Crusades, segregation and gay-bashing. But at basis their message and symbols are those of love and inclusiveness and compassion.
There are many who do not respond to religious symbols or imagery, just as there are those who do not respond to music or art. Fine, religion has no monopoly on ethics or compassion. Those qualities, like violence, are probably part of our genetic heritage. But I see the sour, aggressive atheism of a Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens as intellectually impoverished. They attack the knuckle dragging literalist side of religion, but fail to deal with its more substantive and meaningful expressions- perhaps because that side has absolutely no conflict with science. Saying we should dispense with religion and turn solely to science is like saying that because we know a great deal about sound propagation and physics, can understand the physical sound response mechanism of the human ear, and through neural scans see precisely how the brain response to sound, that there is no longer any point in making music.
As I write this, the sun is rising over snow capped peaks to the east. That can be seen in a coldly scientific light, as an entirely impersonal event involving the movement of astronomical bodies in space. It is also profoundly personal- it does mean that I am on the earth for another day. My aesthetic and or spiritual response to the light and colors is more intangible, but no less meaningful to me. None of these responses are exclusive. I have no problem holding both a scientific and a spiritual view at the same time, without contradiction.