ConnieMack

ConnieMack
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August 15
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A "writer" in that I transmit others' words, all the time, on a huge variety of subjects. A professional observer; a silent listener. I nonetheless have a voice, which I like to let out once in awhile (nice doggie). Owner of children and cats and one puppy. Standing still, battling fight or flight syndrome.

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MARCH 27, 2009 4:51PM

Where Should I Take the Tweens - ** Updated!

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As you may remember, I traveled to Vegas Alone in February because the Children would not behave.    http://open.salon.com/blog/conniemack/2009/02/25/its_vegas_baby

They're again off in April (why don't the teachers want to Teach?) and I'm torn.  Should I re-do the Vegas route - we have friends there and free places to stay and we can still do Red Rock and the Grand Canyon and visit the baby and new house. 

Or - should I take advantage of the cheap airline tickets and:

1.  Go back to NY - gotta face the future ex sooner or later, and some art that I've had for 20+ years is still there, having not been sent out as promised;

2.  Go to DisneyWorld, as I've never been, they're nearly too old to go, and I can comfort myself with visits to Epcot and fishing and birdwatching;

 - or -

3.  Buy a boat.  It's really cool, this boat.  More about that later.  Of course, we'd give up all vacations to work on this boat.  For many, many years. 

no-victory  

** As of now - April Fool's Day - it is decreed that I will not buy the boat.  I really, Really like it, and the idea, but it's not feasible, and would take all my energy and a lot of money to make it livable. 

 We're going to Vegas.  More on that Later!

 

 

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Hmm, Disney, Boat, Disney, Boat....

... or Vegas?
Boat sounds like an expensive and draining albatross. Go to
Florida and enjoy yourself.
New York in April is lovely. And you'd get your art.
Me? I'd finish unfinished business. Make that never be a choice again. . . . Of course I also LIKE New York. . . . .
I wish I could help, but since I haven't actually enjoyed three out of the four destinations you list (Vegas, DisneyWorld, or, uh, a boat), choosing New York seems a bit of a cop-out...
oh, Lord. Maybe I wanted to say this, but I haven't set foot in NY since May 1, '06 for many reasons, most fraught with painful associations. But you're right, ChiGuy - I should finish the unfinished; and I do Love New York, and just recently in the past six months or so have been yearning to return.

[sigh]
Buy the boat. Definitely the boat. I cant say Disney suck, it doesn't. But it is a cash churning hunk of plastic, metal, and oil. Screw Disney. Art in New York, maybe he'll send it. Its not like you lose the art of you take the other choices. But the boat! You live on the bay. A boat would be nice. And the boat is a lot of work, but it is a labor of love. You keep it, you learn from it, you bond with your crew. Definitely get the boat.
How about Chicago/surrounds? Short hop from the Bay Area. NY atmosphere, I'd say!
I meant, maybe I wanted to say it all along and thus that's why it's come up in the lighthearted context - hell, I know I've wanted to say it all along, but am finding this navel gazing to be difficult, to say the least, when it comes to me and my mistakes and poorly chosen paths and broken hearts and the like.

Capice?
Actually, Kal, there's a 3-day seminar in Chicago the end of that week ----- NO! It should be a family vaca. The girls have never been, outside of the airport, and there's awesome museums and retaurants there. Hmmmm.
Bill, this boat is so cool. It's 63' x 18.5' - was a former ferry for prisoners at Alcatraz. Has 600 sq. feet of open space inside which could be converted to living space. Has a galley and head, so you can live on it now, in a pinch... or on a fishing trip up the Delta. I reall really want it! (But it's so impractical!)
They say that owning a boat is like standing in a cold shower, tearing up $100 bills.

Doesn't make us want a boat any less, I notice.

I vote for NY..sorry!
I'd veto the boat right off the bat.
Disney World is probably more fun for the tweens especially if they have never been there. You owe it to them.
new york. gray's papaya. otherwise, i'll get mad.
well, sQ, we don't want THAT, do we?

(surprised you didn't lobby yourself as one of the awesome places to eat in Chicago....)
well, i didn't know it was an option, otherwise i still wouldn't have. (hah!)
And Disney is just so damn practical! I see your point.

Look, here is the practicality of the boat. You can teach the tweens all sorts of life lessons and skills. You can teach carpentry, civics, various nautical lessons, naval terms. The practicality is only limited by your imagination.

Well, you have my vote. Good luck in whatever you choose.
Kansas City...Yeah!!! Na, the boat, of course.
I want to say Boat! But maybe you should wait on Boat! until you don't have kids hanging about. Perhaps Grand Canyon and baby ....
Hmmmm--I can't give an answer, but i wish you luck whatever your decision.
Disney sounds good. I'm glad you set limits on the fighting kids, good idea.
Important question about the boat. Diesel or Gas. If it's diesel, maybe. If it's gas, pass. Go directly to New York.
I say Disney and Universal, and I HATE Disney and Universal. Sons are 20, 18, and 16 and daughter is 10. Planned a one time disney trip when they were 10, 8 and 6 before our IUDidn't baby was on the horizon. Thought I was going once.

Got to go twice, taking my daughter this November about 6 weeks after moving out of the house. She loved it.

So I remembered that sometimes trips are not about us, they're about the kids, and she had a ball.

It's no longer a 48" cut off on the scary roller coasters, it's 52" or 54", so make sure the kids have the right height, or buy them some lifts.

But do the disney thing... for the children. Then hope one of them becomes successful and can buy you a boat.
Tough call, Connie. I would have to say NYC too. It's a great city, lots to do and you get your stuff back. Win-Win!
Screw Disney. It's plastic, ugly, fake and everyone wears matching tee shirts and eats too much. Fuggedabout it.

Go to New York City.
Don't sugar coat it Lisa....tell us how you really, really feel!

(grin)
Tweens love Disney. Another couple years they won't want anything to do with you.

It's all I'm saying ...
I've done all four. My in-law live in Vegas, I have been to Disney a lot, boats are in my blood and New York has been great to me.

I vote:
1.) New York
2.) Disney
3.) Vegas (though, I cannot IMAGINE Vegas with the kids)
4.) Boat

Boats are a pain in the keister.

(thumbified with the best of luck to 'ya)
I vote for a boat, just not that boat. No no no.

But a boat would be a wonderful thing. A seriously fabulous, wonderful thing.
I vote for the boat (or buy the boat and sail to NY and then stop in Disney- save the airfare... :-) (just kidding, I know you live in CA)
if a woman on OS is it required to have an "ex"? I personally hate Disney, but if you haven't done it it's a right of passage--probably less so if the kids are city sophisticated--depends on how old they are and if it raises THEIR interest. epcot is good at any age. Boats are holes in the water in which one throws money, so you'd better have a lot of it.
I vote for the boat. Anybody can go to NY (retrieving art is what attorneys are for), Disney World or Vegas, and do you know how hard the wind blows in the spring at the Grand Canyon? Buy the boat and your kids will be the envy of all their friends for many years to come, plus they'll learn really useful skills.

However, that's easy for me to say, since I don't have a boat and I just returned from a vacation with children.
I'm into the boat. You get excited when you describe the boat. At least when you put money into the boat, you will still have the boat, a new improved boat - like an investment and fun. What do the tweens want to do?
No, no, Sao, I'm not an artist! I own a few pieces - one a large impressionistic oil painted for me in the 80's, the others finds from estate sales and auctions, one a treasured pre WWII litho with a decidedly anti-War, fear-of-progress theme, all of which were supposed to be sent out here over two years ago.

Oddly enough, the kids want to go to NYC. Not so much upstate where we lived, but the City. They miss it. We spent a lot of time there when we lived there - day trips, mostly. But they also want to go to Vegas, which we left when they were 2 and 1 years old. And there Are things to do in Vegas with kids - indoor parachuting, huge arcades, hiking Red Rock and a day trip to Hoover dam and the Grand Canyon, well, maybe two days.
Connie,
Go to New York, the pulsing heart---or is it stomach?--- of the damn universe. Revivify by soaking in the eclectic glmour-mongers, take the pulse---or do an endoscopy, depending on which metaphor we're using---of the universe, & report back. Future ex?
dissect him, lay him out on the table, take note of the conditions of the major organs, & give him yr diagnosis/prognosis. The young people call it "closure" i think...sew him up good, remember, after yre done. Grab yr art, flit around, take notes, but most of all...get the electroconvulsive therapy NY afford...then...

any chance 1 night at Epcot: you have to do the Disney experience, as it's a Disney world...outside NY, that is...

oh well./...keep us informed...
best, James E.
Disney is a nightmare at this time of year. Most of the population of Texas, 23,904,380 (per 2007 census) is there, and they're all going to be trying to do the EXACT thing that you and your kids will be trying to do. How rude! New York, on the other hand, (population 8,274,527, same census) is always crowded, but everyone's doing something different (except if you have daughters under 11 and under, they're all at the American Girl Cafe). I vote for New York, and I'm biased, I live here.
Go to NYC. But wait until the Fall. I'm having a show at a gallery on the Lower East Side. You and me and the ghost of Shel Silverstein could party until the sun comes up. Three times!
Connie,

If you buy the boat, you'll never go on vacation again because 1. you'll need to work on the boat and 2. you'll be broke, because there is a good deal of truth to the saying "a hole in the water..."

It is beautiful in New York this time of year.
[sigh]

I've wasted like an Hour trying to find a transportable/applicable international "no" symbol (the red circle with the diagonal slash) to place over the boat above. Not gonna get the boat.

At least, not This one.
Ablonde gave me invaluable advice + all the right questions to ask the seller.

So... sorry, not NY either! I had a credit with the airline; plus the suite at the Palazzo is Free. So we're going to Vegas. To see the baby, to see the new house (again). To see the Blue Man Group. To hike in the red rocks west of town.

Thanks for the input. Now I miss NYC more than ever before, so we'll just have to plug a trip in to there as soon as possible.