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SEPTEMBER 24, 2010 8:23AM

The Books I Haven't (And Won't) Read

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Admission: I once read James Joyce’s Ulysses. All 752 pages of it.

  

I tackled it for my 12th-grade English term paper, connecting its story with that of Homer’s Odyssey.  I’m proud to say I got an A- from a notoriously strict teacher (and more importantly, impressed a female classmate).  However, I can’t say that I properly appreciated the book.  After all, what did a 17-year-old boy know about Molly Bloom’s orgasms?

 

The reason I mention this is not to impress you with my scholarship, but just the opposite.      Recently, The Huffington Post had a story about thirteen famous works of literature that everyone knows about but hardly anyone has actually read, and Ulysses was the only one I’d ever completed.  From Chaucer to Proust, from War and Peace to Moby Dick, the list was filled with books that I’ve learned enough about by osmosis to answer the occasional Jeopardy question or fill in 54-Down in the crossword puzzle, but not to discuss at any length.

  

This used to bother me, enough so that a couple of years ago, I vowed to devote some time to the classics I had avoided.  This attempt to sweat to the literary oldies lasted less than a week.  By Chapter 2 of Crime and Punishment, when Raskolnikov endures a barroom monologue from Marmeladov, I was so dizzy from sorting out the –nikovs from the –ovnas that I felt I could justify a homicide myself.  A quarter of the way through Joseph Conrad’s novella-length Heart of Darkness, my interest had sunk as distressingly as Marlow’s ship.  Thus the hernia-inducing copies of Les Miserables and Anna Karenina that I had invested in began to gather dust on my shelf.

  

I was quickly reminded of the tedium I experienced in school while plowing through a major example of the “canon.” Even in the pre-IM/sexting days of the 1960s, Jane Austen’s tales of separated lovers and their long, repressed letters of longing seemed comically irrelevant to me.  Instead of chugging down the hip, contemporary stylings of Kesey and Heller, my English teachers were shoving Silas Marner and The Mayor of Casterbridge down my regurgitating throat.  My love of reading was seriously wounded, but somehow it survived.

  

At my age, as I realize the limits of my time on Earth, I no longer feel the need to plod through long, stilted writing out of some sense of cultural obligation. I have gotten to age 59 as a relatively intelligent, sophisticated man without reading every word of Ahab’s pursuit, and I don’t believe I’ll feel any poorer about it at death’s door.  After all, I haven’t read the Declaration of Independence from beginning to end either, but I know what’s in it and I understand its importance.

  

That’s another key word: long.  A lot of the classics are long.  So are a lot of new novels. I no longer have much interest in long.  I now blanch when someone recommends a novel that tops 400 pages. It begins to seem like a major commitment of time, a commitment that would intrude on other things more important to me.  I no longer do major commitments.  When I pick up a book in which I’m interested, and I learn it’s only around 250 pages, I want to kiss the author on the mouth. Right now, I’m reading Gary Shteyngart’s Super Sad True Love Story, which feels just right at 334 pages.

  

For example, Don DeLillo’s 827-page Underworld sits on my bookshelf unopened, and I’m sure it will remain that way.  I’m aware that, in the time it would take to read this one novel, I could read the entire collected writings of Jhumpa Lahiri, who I adore.  Or, to transpose from the latest issue of Mental Floss, I could read all of the following ground-breaking works: Common Sense, The Cat in the Hat, The Prince, Civil Disobedience, The Elements of Style, The Art of War and the Communist Manifesto.  And then I could read them all a second time.  And still have time left over to take my family to dinner and a movie.

  

To be fair, I’ve enjoyed many long novels.  I devoured Thomas Pynchon’s Gravity’s Rainbow when it was released in the early 1970s.  When I traveled cross-country and back in the early 1980s, The Grapes of Wrath and Norman Mailer’s The Executioner’s Song were my traveling companions. But back then I was young, when time and possibilities seemed endless.

  

There was a time I imagined myself writing the Great American Novel, a brilliant tome with an epic story, a cast of thousands and each page dripping with insight into the human condition.  In retrospect, the only thing it would have been dripping with would have been grandiosity.  I have learned that, while I may feel compelled to write, nobody is compelled to read.  I have come to appreciate concise prose.

  

Writers strike a bargain with their readers: my words, and the entertainment, drama and insight they provide, are worth your commitment of time.  But as the work lengthens, the commitment gets more demanding.  Perhaps if you’re an established author – a Stephen King or a Jonathan Franzen – you can make that demand.  For the rest, that demand seems like an act of arrogance and self-love.  Frankly, dear author, if you want somebody to watch you masturbate, do us all a favor and install a mirror above your bed.  I for one have more rewarding things to do with my time.

  

Though, speaking of masturbate, I did enjoy Portnoy’s Complaint.  All 304 pages of it.

  

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I am not thrown off by the length of a book, so much as by the 200 pages it takes to understand what is happening. Life is too short to read some arbitrary list of books. I could not get through 'Ulysses', but I was able to get through 'War and Peace'-only because it was assigned! When I was in nursing school, I used to joke that they should make the anatomy textbooks more like a sleazy romance novel and then many people would not find it so difficult to read! R
As with lines, waits, posts and even sex (organs), sometimes there is such a thing as too long. I agree.
I'm with you, Crank! I do not read books that weigh more than half a pound. And there are some that I cannot get through no matter how much they weigh. For example, I WANT to read Uncle Tom's Cabin, I really do. In my last effort a few years ago I actually made half way through the fifth chapter! msp
I used to think it a mortal sin not to finish reading a book once I cracked the cover. Now, I could care less and like you, a book simply cannot drone on and on forever. They've got to grab my attention and hold me or they'll quickly become dust-catchers. I have a few.
I got 72 pages into James Joyce’s Ulysses, and that was about 10 years ago. I couldn't even tell you what it was about. I knew I was on for a pretentious, boorish ride on the first page, when the character was described as having "untonsured hair". Oy. A friend who did her master's thesis on that book, defended it vehemently that Joyce was showing that the character didn't join the monastery as he should, or some claptrap like that. Okay.

Silas Marner? Can't remember a lick of it, yet I read it.
Yeah, my ADD only allows me to read qui....SQUIRREL!!!

**runs off to play in the yard**

;D

Rated.
I like Shakespeare from a groundlings perspective. The Russians? meh. Salinger, Wolfe, Flagg - and the list goes on. With those I am captivated.

Cool piece, Cuss. I feel better now.
I've only read 4 on that list, and I'm very well read with a pretty strong educational background. I have no desire, or intention, of reading any of the others. Just not interested. I also don't claim to have read them, like others might do.
I adopted my sister in law's rule that if I don't et into a book by page 50, I'm done. No regrets, no guilt; it just didn't work out. I have read incredibly long books that I loved, but I agree with you that if you are not a known author and you write something that weighs as much as a rhino with bad metabolism, it had better be really, really good. Maybe I'm just jealous because I don;t have anything to say that would require more than 250 pages?
Amen, Brother Crank! If you saw my post a few days ago with the list of what I have most recently read, most are mid-length, mainstream works of fiction. The Passage being the single exception, which I greatly enjoyed. But, then you know my thing for vampires, even the creepy, glow-in-the-dark kind that Cronin conjured up. Great post.
what a dork i am, Crank i read 'em if not all most and i tell you anyone who has not read The Magic Mountain (Thomas mann) simply MUST! Great post! r.
Yup, gone are the days of trying to act cool with a cigarette I am not smoking and a coffee I am not drinking. Yes ,equipped with a book I will never read, the size of a small foreign country.

I like bizarre books now.. Just ordered the 19th wife about those pesky marrying mormons. It was written in 1915 I think.. But I know it is ging to be a good read..:)

Rated with hugs and happy weekend
Cuss: I checked the list and found I had read at least part of 6 of them - only 3 to conclusion and that was because it was required in either high school. Moby Dick stands out - It's wildly humorous until Ishmael gets on the damnable boat, a fact I had forgotten until I tried to re-read it a couple of years ago. Read that part . It's worth it. And short.
During a recent University re-education I was given the list or books to brush up on recommended for those interesting in taking the GRE for English. I won't live long enough to read them all. I do take issue with the list's attack on Faulkner, but I'm Southern and so perhaps love my trashy, confusing people. I admit that because of the shitty economy and certain constraints, I go for length to prolong the escape, but roundth is good too. This was a good Friday a.m. read. Rated 'cause I respect cranky people.
If I start a book, I usually end up finishing it - like 98% of the time. If the book sucks, my family has to put up with me ranting every time I put the book down. If it's a long book that sucks . . . nobody's happy for awhile.

However, I've recently decided that, while I may give the "missing classics" a go, I'm not going to beat myself up for what I may have missed.
I am pretty finicky about what I read these days. I liked a novelist called Steve Berry and read all his stuff because it was great for a train trip into the city. I like some OS stuff, but even here, I find myself bored with some of the longer stuff. Unless it is of specific interest, or one of my favorites, the work must speak in the first few lines......R
oh yes...i have plenty of titles on the bookshelf that i never got to. and yet, that never stops me from buying more. if i'm ever bedridden, i figure, i'll have something to do!
The "classics" aren't such classics any more because the context is gone. Most of the so-called great books were written before television, some before radio, and all before the advent of the internet, so the authors had time to develop their stories....and needed to provide a context for the reader in order for the story to make sense.

Much of what is considered great literature is excerpted from other languages and other cultures and, while scholars have fun reading them from their scholarly backgrounds, the ordinary reader lacks the context, once again, to make sense of them.

Two exceptions on the list. The Name of the Rose is actually highly readable.

More importantly, Ulysses is very readable, once you understand that it's actually an epic poem rather than a novel. Joyce was a poet before he was a novelist, and turn to the novel only because he couldn't make a living as poet, as I well know.

(I wrote my college honors paper on Ulysses, proving my contention that it's actually an epic poem. Of course, you may not want to read epic poems either.)

The miracle of Shakespeare is that, despite the passage of the centuries, for some strange reason his work survives the changes in context. That might be because Shakespeare created the context in which English language writing is viewed.

I tried to read the Satanic Verses three or four times....and decided that it was hogwash.

I understand Stephen Hawkings perfectly, which scares the hell out of me.
I've often felt that the only time people read "the classics" is when forced to by a teacher. I dug through several tomes and quickly forgot them page by page. Personally I would rather read Hitchhikers Guide or Lord of the Rings.
I worked with a fellow who had a Marine Corps tattoo on his hand and who had read and done a serious college paper on Finnegan's Wake. The fellow wrote an op-ed piece for our paper on the anniversary of Joyce's birthday (or some annual or quasi-centennial observance of something connected with the author) that I had to read three times to understand. There is a rumor that perhaps only six people besides Joyce's editor have ever read the Wake through and through. I am not nor ever shall be one of them.

Whence it is a slopperish matter, given the wet and low visibility [...] to idendifine the individuone. But of course.

You might be ecstatic with joy to know that Primrose Lane - A satire of presidential politics,
published by Bartleby, Scriveners and Assoc. (a little known, infinitely exclusive publishing house), is due out by Lulu in about a week. It contains slightly more than 200 pages!
Coupla things:

If I love a book, I don't want it to end. Pages fly by. The more, the better.

"Ulysses" is best read alongside a guide, such as Stuart Gilbert's, or in a class with a good teacher. You miss too much otherwise.

When I was in high school, which was probably about the time you were in high school, the esteemed classics we read, ie, "Silas Marner", "Mayor of Casterbridge" - I seem to remember them both - were chosen mostly because they would be inoffensive and non-sexual. They could have done better by us. But I'm not sure I'm with any new strategy of teaching only what students can easily appreciate. Putting the hay down to where the goats can reach it isn't always the best choice.

Culture changes pretty quickly, literature more slowly. I value older authors for what they can tell us about worlds not our own.

Thanks for this post!
I am always reading a book. I do not read to impress others, I do not read "because I should". I read to enjoy. I read to relax. I read to escape real life and live in the world of fiction. The real world in and out of work is stressful and exhausting. I read for, oh what is the word??? Pleasure. If that pleasure comes from serious writing or from fluff (it varies for me. Never romance novels, no horror, suspense is good and rare memoirs or biography) that is what I want. If I am not enjoying it, I may or may not finish. Again, it is for me not for anyone else.
When it came to reading Heart of Darkness, I got lucky. I had a professor who explained the context. For me HoD went from a boring slog to a brilliant story within one class period.

I take it that you've never made it through a multi-volume, 800+-pages per book fantasy series. The Lord of the Rings is one thing. Robert Jordan's "Wheel of Time" series, for example, is a whole other level of commitment.
Nerd that I was, I'm afraid I plowed through every last one of those doorstops, but please don't ask me if I can even remember the basic plots. I guess I am still a nerd, because if a book is "good" (i.e., to me,) I hate when they are over, so I love long books! I know, I'm weird. The one author whose books I have given up on ever getting through is James Michener.

Lezlie
@Matt: 200 pages? Does that mean I have to kiss you on the mouth?
My idea of heaven is to be in a room filled with books. I touch a one and close my eyes and live it. If it becomes too scary or too sad I can always open my eyes and it will go away. There are some books I would never touch. Silas Marner is one of them.
yes long. headachy looking at the size of them hard cover and SMALL TYPE long. oh god.

there are many books I probably will not read. but never say never. perhaps someday we'll be locked up by the christian militia with library privileges.

I've read moby dick. moby dick is not an easy read. I don't even know if I finished it that's how blindingly awful it was for me to read. I've read heart of darkness which I enjoyed. I think. I always think of that fence with human skulls as finials. pretty good. stayed with me. ulysses AND portrait of the artist as a young man. I've tried to read them. I may even have finished them but I don't think so, although I do think yes portrait of the artist I did sort of finish in a lackluster dull glazed over turn the page please lets get this over with. ugh. good books. yes. good. headachey looking at them good books. what makes them good if no one really wants to read them? ugh ugh ugh.
While I love the big fat books, the heavy literature can be so dreary...and some English teachers have ruined perfectly good books with the long drawn out 'teach'.
Nice post.
@Matt! why didn't I know that? that's fantastic! A real live publisher for your book ~ so satisfying.

@Crank, Gone With the Wind was my first tome and I took it everywhere, even to the dinner table, as I feared something would happen while I was gone. Now, that's my definition of 'great' reading (is that sad?). I also have a hardbound early edition copy of Anna K., brought back from Europe by my grandfather in the 30's - it's a worthy read but the binding gives me as much pleasure as the reading. It's so lovely.

Tess of the D'Urbervilles was as grand a read as GWTW, and East of Eden is my favorite book to re-read every 10 years or so. Otherwise, it's
I admire your wealth of reading! My problem is finding the time and committment. There are so many other distractions and activities bidding for my attention. (including the computer) My other problem is that there is so much to read. I have so many interests that I can't seem to focus on anything.
I'll make an exception - just this once.
...well obviously it's curtains for me! Did I exceed my 250 word limit Crank?
I am working my way through the 100 greatest novels of the 20th century. Just finished "Of Human Bondage", and will now continue "Angle of Repose". I've said it before and I'll say it again, I know I won't finish the list because both Faulkner and Joyce are on it (more than one of each). Of the books listed in the Huffington piece, I have only read one, "A Christmas Carol". Actually, I read that one almost every year. It is one of my favorite stories ever.
I've read one of the list....But will recommend Heart of Darkness (then watch Apocalypse Now, based on it.)

I now toss away books that don't do it for me, although the new (and lavishly praised) Lorrie Moore was a slow snooze until a major plot twist 3/4 of the way through. Ooops.

I don't know how many pages my new book will be (still in final edits right now) but I know you'll add it your bookshelf -- even if from our shared local library! :-)
@Abby - Lulu has a place on their form for "publisher," suggesting that you use your own name, as you are technically the publisher. I decided to have a little fun and, voila, we have the birth of Bartleby, Scriveners & Assoc!
I've read War and Peace, Anna Karenina, Moby Dick, probably a few others. All in my ambitious youth. i remember nothing about them. They were written in and for a different age, when there was nothing much to do after supper - no TV! no internet! no car! no dates! - but snuggle down with some huge, moralistic tome.

I never even tried Ulysses, let alone Finnegan's Wake. But I did enjoy Joyce's pre-LSD writing...
Put me on the side of "life is too short"
I love nothing more than diving into a 1000-page novel--IF IT'S GOOD--and knowing that I get to hang out with the characters for a while. But yeah. I think we were all scarred by high school English.

BTW, the book you're reading right now was one of my faves from the summer. I've recently completed ROOM and HALF A LIFE, and thought both of them were awesome.
kateasley - And after Atlas, you have the joy of John Galt awaiting you...
Yep. I could not finish 'Ulysses' and I've never claimed to. On the other hand, I have Robert Wright's book "The Evolution of God" and I swear I will get through it some day.

I admire you for reading Gary Shteyngart’s book; I can't get through it. I guess, in the end, it's the story-telling and the subject material rather than the length.
Around the time of my 50th I decided that I was going to read WHAT I wanted when I wanted and forget the SHOULDS. If I don't like a book I quit reading it. Life is indeed short and I will never read War and Peace and I think I'm over it already. Great post. R
A few years ago, I did something similar...looked up the most "important" literary classics and decided to stuff them all in. I figured doing so would up my sophistication quotient. I did consume several, including a few of the works you mention here, but the way I got around the length was by listening to audio books. Once I discovered I could listen while I drove, cleaned my house, or took a walk, I was hooked. I would recommend this method to anyone who doesn't have the time for one of the heftier tomes.

I do agree with your major thesis however, one should not read for the sole purpose of saying they read a particular list of authors, and many of those classics are too long. I will never even attempt Moby Dick just because it just doesn't seem interesting enough for the time investment...audio or not.

Thanks for this terrific post!
I speed read for information, slow read for pleasure. Because of my ADD... hey, look at that grackle!... I... ummmm... what?

My favorite big thick books are compilations of short stories. Epic sweeps with lots of characters leave me in the dust. Can't keep them straight. Kind of like life.
I'm with you on the Steinbeck and Jhumpa Lahiri, both of whom I can't get enough of. But you might be surprised at what time will do to your impression of a novel. I remember falling asleep reading Melville's Billy Budd in high school. Then, I was assigned it for a college English class, and I did not get out of my chair until I was done.

Having said that, I do agree with your premise. Great works are great because they speak to humanity. If it doesn't resonate with you, don't read it.
I haven't read any of Joyce's big books but love his short stories such as "The Dubliners" and also those of his follower J P Donleavy.
I loved Moby Dick when I read it aged 11 or 12. I tried to reread it a year or two ago and couldn't get off page 1!
In HS we were assigned "Far from the Madding Crowd" and for some reason I can't quite understand now I became hooked on Hardy's work, and read every Hardy novel in the school library in quick succession.
I just watched "The Last Station", the movie about Tolstoy, and that revived my hankering to read "War and Peace". However the various nay-sayers here may have put me off that idea!
You tell it straight and funny, as usual. rated
Size isn't everything - sometimes they can't be long enough... :-)
Ann, I follow your rule too but I apply it with a 'twenty page limit'. I only wish I could have done that with some text books.

Nicely done, CC!
I have Underworld on my shelf also and haven't gotten to it. Along with several other book, it regrettably is collecting dust.
Best Wishes,
Blittie
As one gets older, one seems to have less and less patience for really long books. But then you find yourself engrossed in one anyway. Dostoevsky's "The Idiot" is on my reading list this fall. It's not overly huge, maybe 600 pages, but I'll savor it.

Have to disagree with you about "Ulysses" though. Daedalus was always my man for cold rainy afternoons. That's a book worth reading over a number of years. The real test of a good reader is not whether you can get through something long in the first go, but whether you can force yourself to pick it back up and finish it at some point. Sometimes I think we end up getting more out of authors we don't find interesting at first than those whose minds are instantly in sync with our own.

rated.
Interesting post, Cranky. I don't think anyone "has" to read anything to enrich their lives. Everyone's experience is different. But I wouldn't balk at length; some long books are so good, you blow through them. I'm reading "New York" by Edward Rutherfurd now - it's about 1000 pages, but totally engrossing. At any rate, to each his own. Just as long as you keep on writing your great posts.
I like Shakespeare from a groundlings perspective.
Wow! we had a completely different reaction to reading crime and punishment. I read it in the 6th grade and and realized that the word classic is not a polite word for boring. I went on to devour any of the classics I could get my hands on. Starting with Dumas and Steinbeck.
I admit to being a strange kid. My favorite book at that time before then was Malamud's 'the fixer.
I've had similar guilt feelings in the last few years, I would like to have had the time and inclination to consume The Great Works, I have all of the classics, and the Great Books. As far as time to read them all, not so much. Life is too short I guess, it could make one cranky if you let it:)

Buffy
"Too long" is any book that bores me. It doesn't necessarily correspond to page count. I can be just as easily enthralled through a thousand pages as I can be bored through 100. And I'll never forgive an author for boring me. (In fact, If I find an enthralling, involving novel, I'm very glad if it's good and loong.) I had to read Crime and Punishment for Russian lit class in High School and I literally had to force myself to plough through every awful, eye-boggy page. I know that there was a murder in it and that Raskolnikov is eventually punished for it at the end. But I can't remember much of anything that happened between. Nor do I feel any need to go back and find out for sure. But I loved both War and Peace and Anna Karenina.

Joseph Conrad does not tempt me, whatsoever.

The Trojan War is over, and there hasn't been any shortage of wars ever since. Sorry, Homer. I don't really need to know about a guy who takes 10 years to get a relatively short distance home because he mouthed off at Poseidon.

rated!
Typically, American pride in know-nothingism--in being both ignorant and without taste--has been a property of right wing discourse.
How distressing it is to find someone on Open Salon preening himself on his incapacity to appreciate and/or read some of the greatest novels ever written: Ulysses, Crime and Punishment, Heart of Darkness, and (almost) anything by Jane Austen. How distressing it is to find so many others taking this blogger's intellectual complacency as a license to celebrate their own. One shouldn't feel compelled to read works that are beyond one's ken. One shouldn't feel be ashamed that one's ken is limited--everyone's is in different ways. But to revel in your inability to understand and appreciate these books by blaming the books themselves is pathetic. And to dismiss the writing of any of the authors I've mentioned as "stilted," given the banal quality the prose on display here, is simply ludicrous.
Cuss, I almost missed this and it would have been my loss. I've been an avid reader all my life, but I found my love of reading through baseball highlights, box scores and comic books. The length of a book doesn't bother me as much as the quality and if it holds my interest. To read a book so you can say you read it to me is just wasting the time you have on this earth to read something that does interest you. Nice EP Cuss!
Here's the tough thing, though:

Some books are hard to read. But they are worth it. You can't pick up "As I Lay Dying" by Faulkner and breeze through it like a Grisham book.

So.. sometimes, the work is worth the effort.. but, other times (like Heart of Darkness) it isn't.
I love your take on Crime and Punishment. I attempted to read it twice and gave up halfway through each time. I kept confusing Raskilnov with his brother-in-law Rashminov. And all the exclamation points made the novel seem hopelessly melodramatic.

In my early twenties I attempted to read every novel on the Modern Library's Top 100 list but gave up after about a dozen books.

As for Underworld, don't let the length scare you. Check it out at your local library if for no other reason than the first 50 pages. It's a mini-novella in and of itself with page-turning portrayals of such pop-culture luminaries as Joe DiMaggio and J. Edgar Hoover.
Agreed. The older I get, the less time I have to waste. ~r
people wont read great literature? oh well. people wont read my epic posts on the Warmachine or 911 truth either =(
Great topic for a post Cranky

The length of a book never used to bother me, but I as I get older time just runs away from me. I remember I used to think nothing of tackling one James Michener after another. As far as the classics go, I've maybe read one on the list and it doesn't bother me; I read what I love and what interests me regardless of the length. My favorite modern tome weighs in at 897 pages - "I Know This Much Is True" by Wally Lamb. Awesome.

Newsweek's August 8th issue had an article - as it says on the cover -
"What To Read Now" The Best Books on Greed, Adultery, The Food Wars, The Pope, Disasters, and The Taliban. 37 books (I counted). Start reading now and redeem thyself. Only kidding!
This used to bother me, enough so that a couple of years ago, I vowed to devote some time to the classics I had avoided.

I had the same feeling several years ago, but it was about contemporary literature. So I started working my way through The Salon.com Reader's Guide to Contemporary Authors, all 250+ of them, if I remember correctly, in an attempt to read one complete piece by each author, from start to finish. I stopped before the halfway mark, when other demands on my time took over my life. (I'm a scientist, dammit, not a book reader.) Why did I do this? I wanted to know a bit more about what's been written in the past 50 years or so, and I wanted to have a more informed opinion about some of the names I'd come across in magazines and newspapers. It was worthwhile. I learned a lot, even if I actually disliked some highly praised work. Much of what I learned was about myself: what I understand, what I don't understand, what I care about. I'd do it again--or rather, I'd finish if I had the time.
I can relate about getting to be of an age where one can afford to be much more discriminate about what books are worth the time!
I know PRECISELY what going on here. it's Jonathan Franzen's bragging that he'd been unable to finish William Gaddis' "J.R."

Here's my response to him -- and you.

http://fablog.ehrensteinland.com/2010/09/05/holden-franzen-vs-the-world/
the only 2 books that i attempted and left me feeling traumatized were 'silas marner' and tolkien's 'the silmarillion'. we did marner in high school and that old 'read 30 pages/discuss pace just made it agony for me. 'the silmarillion' made me want to go out and savage an ancient people...i didn't care whom nor what, just anyone claiming to be from an ancient breed.

it was almost 4 yrs after cait's passing before i was able to read a novel-length book again. i just didn't have the capacity to sit still and take the information in any longer. now, if i like the author/book, i never want it to end...arkady renko stories by martin cruz smith come to mind.
I am truly sorry for you guys--I wish you'd had better teachers, who are out there. They love great literature and know how to make it accessible to all. War and Peace, Moby-Dick, Heart of Darkness require, like all the good stuff in life, require work. They're not page-turners, and can take entire lifetimes to understand. But you don't have to understand all to enjoy the journey. You do need to dedicate yourself to the work, however. Without that commitment, you'll never get anywhere with great literature. It isn't for everybody, but it could be if everybody knew how to read it. Keep trying, take a course from a good teacher. On the contrary, life is too short not to have spent a few years reading War and Peace. Cheers.
@Jonathan: You're so right. I should have sent my children away to boarding school for a few years so I could have given proper time to War and Peace. Hey, God, can I have a do-over?
You express sly concern in your following contribution that this one may have offended “true believers” such as I. I wanted to reassure you about that, Cranky.

Those damned English teachers who attempt to expose the solid Americans such as yourself to the likes of George Eliot or Thomas Hardy know full well going in that they are only going to light up one or two young minds a year if they are lucky. Your mind just happened to be one of the vast majority that was not. How could that offend me?

I do agree with you about the bargain between any particular author and you, the reader. I suspect, however, that with regard to several of the works you have cited, you have misjudged which one was doing the masturbating.
Cranky, Did you ever strike a chord with this topic. There are so many comments they are beginning to resemble a long tome.
@2mchwrk- Thanks for the laugh!
And thank you CC.
I have read most but then my minor was in English Literature. I had an amazing professor for each course who enriched the enjoyment. I had trouble with Chaucer and Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, but for that there were Cliff Notes!
To Cranky. No, you're right. Waste your time on the computer. God will oblige you. Cheers.
I feel about "Classic Literature" much like I feel about "Classical Music". Wholly cognizant that I am appreciating both while standing on the backs of their giantness, they bore me.
This is totally due to a surfeit of knowledge of au courant forms, which are at the same time both sublimely richer for incorporating all of those classical themes, and yet fresher due to the limits that our culture places on our time - hence modern creators appreciate the poet's austerity and write with more directness and blessed brevity.
(R)ated for having the brassies to state that the emperors, while gifted in their time, are naked!
They don't even have to be long books. I reread Catcher in the Rye for my book group, and could only get halfway through it. Ugh. I think I get it's significance anyhow.
Some things I already know. For example a few years ago I was taking a long road trip so I got the cd's of Ulysses. Well, I've already met more self-absorbed boring men in my lifetime than I care to. I used to always think, "maybe it's just me." I don't anymore. If I don't enjoy it or I'm not learning anything by page 50, forget it. Thanks for the truth telling, Cranky.
I wrote a post that came from a tangent formed while reading your post.
I have not read "Ulysses."
I am so impressed you finished Gravity's Rainbow. I started that book over three times from the beginning before giving up.

I also admire you for being able to read an entire article on HuffPo. I mostly just watch the clips of Jon Stewart.
You absolutely must not read Let Us Now Praise Famous Men by James Agee, and everything ever written by Wallace Stegner.

You'll be glad you didn't!
My rule of thumb about reading is not length (tho I am a very s-l-o-w reader...) but the sense of mpvement. I always thought like yuo that the classics would be difficult and cumbersome and for tmost part you are right but then a mentor turned me onto Jane Eyre and I was hooked. Even my faves like John Irving have these 100 page entrees that make me crazy but the reward is getting to the meat of the story so to say. And all authors write real bombs -- stories that are just too weird to give a crap about -- sorry John Irving but the Fourth Hand was just not interesting yet i finished the damn thing.

When I say movement, I mean for a slow reader to get through a book quickly that is movemenet. The Steig Larsson books are like that -- long but fast, fascinting well written and amazingly organized. Just my 2 cents.
My rule of thumb about reading is not length (tho I am a very s-l-o-w reader...) but the sense of mpvement. I always thought like yuo that the classics would be difficult and cumbersome and for tmost part you are right but then a mentor turned me onto Jane Eyre and I was hooked. Even my faves like John Irving have these 100 page entrees that make me crazy but the reward is getting to the meat of the story so to say. And all authors write real bombs -- stories that are just too weird to give a crap about -- sorry John Irving but the Fourth Hand was just not interesting yet i finished the damn thing.

When I say movement, I mean for a slow reader to get through a book quickly that is movemenet. The Steig Larsson books are like that -- long but fast, fascinting well written and amazingly organized. Just my 2 cents.