Foreclosure: My Lender & I Are No Longer Lovers
A few cups of freshly French-pressed morning joe and a perusal of the day’s news headlines is what I need to take my mind off this estrangement that’s developed between my lender and me. The first headline I stumble upon reveals a discovery of water on the moon. Good thing I chose not to harass the automated voice system at Bank of America with obscene phone calls. Humans didn’t discover that water, computers did and don’t think for a second they didn’t already know it was there. The all-knowing mainframe only recently chose to let its faithful anthropoid servants at NASA in on the secret who then let their lowly servants, the media, in on it who then divulged it to the rest of us lowly humans.
The next headline staring me in the face is a New York Times article about the FHA. Should I read it? Isn’t this like asking a friend about your ex-lover’s alleged new lover? As I mentioned earlier, there isn’t a great deal of dignity left in this defaulting homeowner so I can’t resist grabbing a little flour from the rumor mill. The article starts off by saying:
The Federal Housing Administration, the government agency whose loan-insurance programs have become a crucial source of support for the housing market, said on Thursday that its cash reserves had dwindled significantly in the last year as more borrowers defaulted on their mortgages.
My lender is going to drop the FHA like the paramour hot potato they are because apparently they’re overcooked and bear no semblance to a meal ticket. I knew it wasn’t the abs.
As recently as a few weeks ago, the F.H.A. had said that even under the bleakest economic forecast, its cash cushion would quickly recover. On Thursday, it abandoned that position. “There is a real risk. Nobody has a crystal ball,” Shaun Donovan, secretary of housing and urban development, said in an interview. “We recognize there is a possibility that the reserves go below zero and stay there.”
Now that is one big dictum if I’ve ever seen one. Now I see what my lender saw in the FHA. It takes serious cajones to stare brazenly in the face of a zero balance sheet and shrug it off. I should know, I've watched the zero on my balance sheet fall into the negative for months now. The process has made me feel so unattractive I can no longer make out with myself in the mirror let alone shrug it off.
That is not a situation the agency considers likely. In line with many analysts, the agency expects the housing market to turn down again over the next nine months and then to recover. Under this projection, foreclosures would be manageable and the reserves would quickly grow.
Um… is it just me or are they late to the game of betting on a housing bubble? Homeowners facing foreclosure from falling property values like myself tried this years ago… and failed. That’s partly how this foreclosure mess got started.
The F.H.A.’s annual audit was scheduled for release last week, but was mysteriously delayed at the last minute. On Thursday, as it released the document, the agency explained that it wanted its auditors to include more negative forecasts as a way of understanding the worst-case risk.
This is no “mystery”. That’s just the way HAL 9000 works as evidenced by the "recent" discovery of celestial water. I finally understand my lender’s tryst with the FHA. Who could possibly resist the sexiness of a government agency governed by a Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic Computer? I can’t provide an intense, algorithmic experience to Bank of America so they went outside our bedroom to find it. Believe me, I tried. I really did. The faxing of a 46-page document for their loan modification application for weeks and weeks proves it. [You can read about the tale here if you like] I just have to face the facts: My lender thinks I'm no good in bed.
The F.H.A. says it is insuring loans to more financially secure buyers with higher credit scores. The average credit score of new borrowers, it said, is 693, compared with 633 two years ago.
In a sense, the agency is bulking up and giving as many loans as it can to qualified buyers as a way to diminish the relative size of the pool of problem loans. It guaranteed more than $360 billion in mortgages in the last year, four times the amount of 2007.
Critics say this is only increasing the size of the ultimate peril.
The FHA is so sultry with their risky behavior it makes me want to date this bad boy government entity. If it weren’t for my crappy credit score from delinquent mortgage payments that make me look like a juvenile delinquent I might have a shot.
I must admit I feel kind of bad for my lender. They're probably heartbroken with today’s news. Sure they were going to dump me on November 25th with the foreclosure of my house at a public auction but I’m not the kind of person who takes pleasure in another's pain. I’m the kind of person who takes pleasure in his own pain as I’ve chosen to stay in this abusive relationship far too long. Those days are over starting today. I will dump them before they dump me. "You can’t fire me, I quit!” is my new modus operandi. 13 days remain to find the best way to announce splitsville to my lender. I’ll start by demystifying the mystery surrounding the short sale… that is if HAL will let me.


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I cannot imagine the hell this has been.
Don't be in a hurry to leave your lender! Stick around for the Cash For Keys. CFK has been re-named, now they have attached the Orwellian handle Financial Relocation Assistance, a kinder and gentler name for paying you to get out.
Just prepared an agreement giving a former owner $5000 to move out in 6 weeks. Stay as long as you can and don't leave any money on the table. Negotiate hard and know your rights!
RATED.
As always... I love ya' man!!
I hope you can gain back your energy and balance once this hellish process is over.
The best of luck to you.
I bought the cheapest, smallest house on my block, one that the previous owner had repeatedly over-leveraged (you can see the loan history, purchase, divorce and refi to buy out ex, remarriage and refi to add new wife plus $50k for 'stuff' - the house is only 625 sf!) for what was then a rock bottom price ($150k lower than the previous note). The lender received 10 offers in one day.
A similar house (in a slightly 'lesser' neighborhood) just sold a week ago for what I paid for mine. I probably can't refinance (it costs money up front to refi), but my loan v. value is still pretty good.
I did everything right. The lender qualified me for $150k MORE but luckily the broker was completely transparent about the actual payment that would result, so I stuck to the lower price range.
People started to tell me to refi and get money to pay for a new kitchen. It was tempting . . . really tempting . . . had the cabinets picked out in my mind . . . but I decided it would be a bad move.
Lo and behold, yesterday we received an announcement at work that they are considering a number of furlough (stay home and don't get paid) days plus a cut in pay, amounting to about a 12% reduction in overall wages.
I could afford my house when I bought it and for the foreseeable future. I wasn't paying that much more for an apartment, and the money I would have lost in my 401(k) went into home improvement (like plumbing) - and savings - instead.
But even renters who live in "cardboard boxes" like you could still be screwed by this economy.
I might face some rocky times ahead but even in hindsight my decisions (and those of DF, who despite everything seems happier than you are) don't deserve derisive comments from sneering dudes like Tomreedtune. I'd rather face those rocky times in my house than under your tarp, Tom.
Unless you have Viggo Mortensen under there with you.
Your previous comments show disdain for people who have enough money to afford a house. They make you look petty and smug, but they don't make DF or anyone who can buy a house look stupid or naive.
I bought a house because I wanted a house. It was the right choice for me. looked for a long time and chose carefully. You made a different choice. To me you sound petty and to you I sound naive. We just disagree.
But just because you disagree doesn't mean you need to come to DF's posts and ridicule him.
I am so lucky I got my mortgage through my credit union. We are never breaking up. They sent me a letter saying I might qualify for the government's interest rate reduction plan. Since I had just lost my job and my interest rate was 8.5% (from 1996 when that was a good rate). I called them, did the little bit of paper work, paid them $250 and my rate went down just over 3 points. The longest part of the whole thing was waiting for their lawyers to do a title search.
The credit union is making a few thousand dollars on it, and not just the first year, so I think BofA is a big fat liar.
DF's situation (on top of being out of work) is that his house isn't worth what he owes. He can't sell it, and it is now up to the bank to refinance what is now more than the house is worth, but at a lower rate.
Yeah, they suck, and they're wrong ethically and morally and by the spirit of the law if not the letter.
Credit unions ARE better, and as I said I am moving my money into one next week (after Wells Fargo raised my credit card rate to almost 20% even though I've been a customer for a couple decades).
But I'm not sure if a credit union would deal with DFs situation any better because he's so under water with his loan.
Here in L.A. any new loan requires "escrow", which is basically an excuse to exact a bunch of meaningless fees amounting to several thousand dollars, which most people want to roll into their loan so they need some wiggle room in their equity (of which DF has none).
A refi for $250 is unheard of. The escrow company's "document handling fee" is more than that.
--Frank Indiana: if anyone knows about shitty situations it's you… & your readers (myself included) reap the same benefits from your extraordinary words. thank you.
--Deborah Young: you're right, there are plenty of fish in the sea. I just trolled craigslist and found someone who goes by "Toni the Loan Shark". It's gonna cost me an arm & a leg (literally) but maybe my cat's rhinestone studded collar will buy me a one night stand that'll temporarily fill the hole in my heart. I'm gonna feel dirty in the morning, I just know it. Thanks for the read as always!
--BOKO: you loco! I haven't shot porch lights out in a long time. Sounds kinda fun. I'll start w/ my own. Thanks for the read!
--sg2292: I never thought FRA would go for a guy like me. You give me hope. Thanks for the advice… and the read.
--Tink: get yourself a 976 phone number & give it to B of A. they'll stop calling after they get their first bill… I think. Thanks for the read & your comments are always a welcome sight on this site.
--tai: pogo sticks are fun too until your lender removes the spring. thanks for the read & comment.
--SaladDayz: just sold the makeup mirror. Switched to the reflective side of tin foil & it makes me feel like I'm kissing a stranger. Thanks for the read & the sick sense of humor.
--JustJuli: thanks! you're a sucker for wit because you've got a wicked case of it yourself. keep runnin' & keep posting…
--Sacl: I'm not ready for another lending relationship but um… I love you too, man?
--white and black: wow, thanks for sharing your tale of poetic justice and for the huge compliment. I'm gonna keep my goals small for now & shoot for becoming a Slumdog Hundredaire.
--sunbreak: thanks for the homework. read Mish's post. lots of good stuff in there but a somewhat narrow view on the foreclosure crisis. one of these days I'll get around to posting a broader look at the situation. thanks for the read!
--Leonde Delmare: great comment! I appreciate the perspective from the inside but what I appreciate the most is your recognition that everyone plays a role in the foreclosure crisis. BTW, you weren't a lowly clerk, you were a beacon of rationality in the midst of irrational times.
--IslandView: thanks for the words of support. I'm investing in coffee for energy & velcro flooring & shoes w/ tiny, flexible hooks on the soles for balance.
--David Cox: well said, my friend. thanks for the read as always.
-- tomreedtoon: will you at least give me the password to your Wi-Fi connection when I'm living next door? Is the upload speed any good? thanks for the dissension and the read… oh, and the snickering too. I've got a soft spot for trolls under an overpass.
--Henry Dean: and thank you for the read & comment.
--WSFTC: you slay me with your repartee, as per usual. just got an email offer for a dictum enlarger. I think I'm gonna order one.
--luvmydogs: I wonder if I play that REM song while I sleep at night it'll help me with my lack of REM. hmmm… thanks for the comment as always, o' faithful reader.
--anybodhi: you're vicious, just vicious… beating up on a homeless person living in a tarp-covered cardboard box with a Wi-Fi connection. you should be ashamed [proud] of yourself! thanks for offering sensible insight into an insensible situation.
--incandescent: I've been meaning to do an entire entry on NACA for weeks and weeks now. I'll get to them soon… I promise. thanks for the read!
--tomreedtoon: wow… the future looks so dark I gotta wear night-vision shades I guess. "the rich & powerful lied to all of us." hmmm… I think there might be a chance to find a smidgeon of common ground between us but please don't be offended if someone comes along and buys it to build a condo complex on. thanks for stirring up a discussion here.
--anybody: what's with all the sagacious right hooks and haymakers? what are you, the Manny Pacquiao of diatribe? It's okay, I don't mind looking stupid on occasion - that's why I sometimes leave the house wearing nothing but ass-less chaps. BTW, by the end of this comment thread I'll have you & tomreedtoon making out with each other whilst I make out with myself in the mirror. freaky kinky right?
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--susanrkat: yeah, credit unions rule. and you're right, the credit union will make far more than a few thousand dollars from their dealings with you. they'll maintain you as a faithful customer who will continue to do business with them - something you can't put a price tag on these days. thanks for the read & comment!
Anyone who wants to learn a little about the difficulties facing a house underwater can read my earlier posts for explanations. "Now THAT is one Badaaaaaassss Mortgage" is a good start.
It can be found here: http://open.salon.com/blog/dailyforeclosure/2009/09/24/now_that_is_one_badaaaaaassss_mortgage
I've gotten a couple of comments in the range of "Wow, ouch!!!" so I guess I need to tone it down. Or write what I'd actually say to someone like Tom. Although my comments would then be to the effect of "--..--..--.-.-.-" instead.
BTW, love your stuff. When I was buying my house, there was a squatter who kept getting thrown out by the bank and returning and getting more and more insane in the process. (He was not the previous owner, just broke in one day and set up house). In mid-escrow, the seller/bank was taken over by the feds (Indymac, anyone?) In short, the escrow was ridiculous.
At the same time, my realtor was in the midst of a breakup, and was living in a succession of seedy industrial lofts with seedier landlords.
He suggested I submit my escrow from hell to "My First House". Not needing 15 minutes of fame, I passed.
But I suggested an idea for a new show called:
"Fuck it, let's just live under the overpass."
Maybe I would have found Tom there and we'd be keeping each other warm by now.
Anyways, dump that loser broad of yours, she'll marry the Mr. U.S. Government in no time and actually benefit from you leaving. After having collected so much money from you until now, she will sell the bedroom to another, collect a great sum from them, then in about 6 years, will get reimbursed for the few months you couldn't pay for her manicures...probably with interest. Fear not, dump that tainted leach and move on to whatever...
another great post.. keep it going :-)
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2381656/why_obamas_home_affordability_program.html?cat=3
Did you know that lenders are being COMPENSATED by your tax dollars to kick people out of their homes?
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2394906/lenders_are_being_paid_by_us_goverment.html?cat=3
I was one of the millions who had big CC debt and a large $5k nut to pay every month. But then I noticed the bubble on the horizon. This was Fall 1998, and I knew the Realtors and other buzzards would start swooping down to steal my income. I immediately sold. I had plenty of equity at the bottom of the bubble but I hated the idea that so many Developer/builder/ Real estate agents were going to get rich off of the sorrow and pain of others.
So I voluntarily downsized from a 3,000 sq ft house that I loved. I had no idea what these shylocks had in store for us. I could have paid off the mortgage with cash, but I also don't trust banksters.
I immediately paid off all debt and rented a house. That was 11 years ago. It was THE BEST THING I ever did, other than pulling out of the NYSE stock market days before the first big implosion.
I save about 90-100% of my TAXED income. My wife saves about 60% of hers. We can now pay cash for any house we want. BUT WE DON"T WANT A HOUSE. We live in somone elses house--by rent. They are begging us to stay by lowering rent more and more each year. Our rent is less than 20% of the PITI we would have to pay if we "owned" the mortgage debt on it. The landlord owns the property---but we OWN him. He fears the great hoards waiting to rent and destroy his house if we ever decide to move.
There are a very few important issues with a "house".
1) A house is a house NOT A HOME.
2) Pay cash if at all possible. It is easy if you go frugal. Anyone can do it. Once you have the cash IN HAND --you will like the cash more than the house. I guaranty that!!
3) When you pay interest---you make banksters rich. Why HAND THEM MONEY that they will then use to SCREW You?
4) Equity is NUMBER ONE.
If you don't have 100% equity you are paying your earnings - potential sales PROFIT to a bankster.
We can buy any house we want---and won't. EVEN with 100% equity and no bankster loans---YOU DONT HAVE EQUITY UNTIL IT IS SOLD- up to that point it is all fantasy paper ONLY.
Find the last sucker---and you wil;l get your cash. But not until it closes and the checks clear the bank.
I hate to see the misery of normal people who believed the BIG REAL ESTATE LIE machine
1) If you want to pay off UNSECURED debt---that is your choice. If you don't want to---make sure you know the laws of your state---statute of limitations etc---make your decisi0n and STICK TO IT.
2) If you own a house (mortgage) --determine your REAL equity IF YOU CAN SELL IT TODAY. Check with your accontant--or local tax help center-=-FREE and /or attorney---and consider the consequences. Bankruptcy is a toy best used by the wealthy. BANKRUPTCY was originally designed FOR BUSINESS---not individuals.
If you rent---keep paying rent--and always look for a lower price NEGOTIATE. PUT THE PRESSURE ON owners, property managers. Don't be a Mr Nice GUY---ITS YOUR MONEY.
I know a few families who stopped making mortgage payments in 2005 summer . They are ahead by 50 months of monthly PITI---AND THEY STILL LIVE IN THE HOUSE RENT FEE-- mortgage free---its not their house - BUT IT NEVER WAS THEIR HOUSE---EVER . It always belonged to the loan c0mpany and any sucker who bought the loan later.
THATS A LOT OF MONEY TO SAVE---IT COULD BE YOU.
IF I had debt I WOULD WALK----from it all----secured unsecured---catch me if you can.
If Obama can hand out billions of our tax money to his banker buddies---If Bush and Cheney can make themselves uber rich and make their banker buddies wealthier----we can start by NOT PAYING. KEEP THE CASH AND DO NOT SPEND IT.
We have saved megabucks--but -I only save in Credit Unions---have ZERO DEBT---for over 10 years. I still eat potatoes, beans and rice---and DON'T EAT OUT. I try not to drive---to save on SPENDING MONEY---which will be used to jack me around by the banks.
I LOVE THIS LIFE---I no longer am owned by a BOSS. WHEN YOU HAVE CASH---YOU ARE THE BOSS.
ITS LIKE I AM RETIRED WITHOUT BEING RETIRED.
I have freedom to do ANYTHING---if i want. The other day---I was thinking I want to have a nice comfy bed. SO I paid $6,000 for a nice bed. CASH ---directly to the workers who buld it. No middlemen--no salesmen no double-talk and promises.
I am love the pain on the faces of the cheaters.
Four years ago--I was at a party---big shots, bankers developers braggng about how they screw over people. One---I thought was a friend---said---Why don't you buy a house---prices are starting to go back up again---I hear "they" are making multiple offers on houses in San Jose---That was in 2006, The NAR was bleating---house prices are GOING BACK UP=---they do this every month.
I said---NO I think we will wait for some stability. He told me has just built several houses that would be real DEALS---THE HOUSES ARE STILL EMPTY FOUR YEARS LATER.
WHAT KIND OF DEAL IS THAT? I AM LAUGHING---he thought he had another sucker> When a house costs $50/sq ft to build---YOU don't pay $400/sq ft BECAUSE a develoer or Realtor says NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO BUY.
No---I will pay $15/sq ft !!! Thats right---LOSE AT LEAST $50/sq ft over cost because they are liars. THAT IS MY real estate LIE fee. If you LIE---YOU PAY A FEE.
I will buy a house ONLY if the seller is bleeding in the street---begging me---and he better sweeten the deal with a swimming pool, new Lexus or Mercedes and something else I want. If he wants my money!!! LOL ROFL
WE NEED PERP WALKS FOR BANKSTERS AND REALTARDS