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Dan Shapiro

Dan Shapiro
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A psychologist and writer, Shapiro has written a few books and for the NY Times, Salon.com's old "mothers who think" section, NPR, and lately consults for Grey's Anatomy and Private Practice. Author of Mom's Marijuana (Harmony/Vintage) and Delivering Doctor Amelia (Harmony/Vintage). He chairs a dept at the Penn State College of Medicine when he isn't roaming Salon. Four essays published back in the day on Salon are in the links below. If you like this essay, you'll love Dan's book: Mom's Marijuana.

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MARCH 9, 2010 6:57AM

A letter to my daughters about weed

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Pot. Herb. Ghanja. Dope. Mary Jane. Rope. Stink Weed. Ditch Weed. Sugar Weed. Wacky Weed. Sweet Lucy. Spliff. Cannabis. Marijiana. Weed.

Let’s talk about weed. A real talk, not one of those weed-is-evil-and-no-one you-know-has-ever-used and if you do it’s only a matter of time before you’re living under a bridge pushing a shopping cart (which, I will point out, would be incredibly difficult for you given the amount of clothing and other detritus you seem to have accumulated.)

I want to write you the truth because you already know the “no one has ever used” speech is crap and if I leave you to figure everything out on your own you’ll just ask your friends -- whose sum of information comes from only slightly less clueless older brothers and sisters or the internet – which is a three car garage stuffed by hoarders. There may be some truth buried in the internet about weed, but you’d have to clean off ferret droppings to find it. Why I, or any other parent, would leave on your own to think this through is beyond me because you lack the resources to get real information. So here goes. Just say no. Just kidding. Ha ha. Little parental humor for you there.

Anyway, a doctor/writer friend of some renown pointed out to me once that it’s completely natural to want to change your mental state. He asked, “why do you think little kids spin around or swing or jump around? They want to play with cognition, it’s completely normal.” He has a point. That he said this to me while he was, himself, at the moment, intoxicated is not relevant.

So it’s not crazy to want to experiment with your cognitive state.

And I know you’re curious – you told me you’ve already seen a few kids get booted from college and your old school for smoking weedand getting caught. So you’re probably thinking, “why would they risk getting kicked out of school unless that weed thing is fun?”

And you already know I wrote a book with “marijuana” in the title, so you’re aware that I’ve inhaled.

So here’s the bottom line.

There are three kinds of marijuana smokers.

Visitors. There are the ones that smoke occasionally and for whom it’s a visit to a strange place. They may spend time giggling, and likely eat too much food, and end up a bit paranoid. Maybe even “wicked” paranoid, as we used to say. They may have fun physical sensations and get disoriented about time – but nothing too far beyond their experience to be frightening, and then, the next day they probably feel wiped out, kind of down and have minor memory issues. They may even say to themselves, “that’s what all the excitement is about?”

Then there’s the Regulars. These tend to be folks for whom weed is an anti-anxiety medication. It soothes their worries, they see the world differently when they smoke, and they maintain function. They smoke all the time – they may even “wake an bake” which means smoking first thing in the morning instead of coffee. With the exception of the smoker’s hack – a cough -- and their crappy memory-- you can’t usually tell who these people are because they are entirely functional. I’ve known hikers and small plane pilots and teachers who smoke regularly and seem to pull it off (though I wish I’d never met the pilot because I wasn’t trustworthy even with a popcorn popper when stoned but that story is for some other time).

But some of them convert to a third type.

Stoners. These are folks whose lives have slowed, and then stopped. For them, smoking weed results in gravity turning up -- it takes enormous effort for them to do anything, so they don’t. Ambition – even once fierce ambition -- evaporates and a creeping sadness replaces it. They sleep too much, hygiene sucks, they can’t remember what they did yesterday even though it’s exactly the same as what their doing today -- and they begin to look like a BEFORE photograph in some twisted makeover reality show.

Oh yeah, Bus-Riders. Okay, right, there’s a fourth type too -- for a small number of people, weed is just a bus stop on the quick road to harder, more immediately dangerous stuff, but you and I aren’t talking about heroin or cocaine or PCP or their latest derivatives because it’s the same as jumping in front of a car, only slightly less efficient. Oh, by the way, if I catch you with that stuff – or prescriptions – I’ll take you to the police myself, and when you get out you will find that I’ve taken everything out of your room including your door and bed – and you’ll slowly earn them back over the next year with meetings and drug tests. Doubt. Me Not.

OOooops, sorry, I got lost there in my own horrid little parental fantasy. Where were we? Oh yeah. Weed.

Unfortunately, before you inhale from your first joint, it’s impossible to know which group you’ll be in. Everyone thinks they’ll be a visitor the first time, but you never know. You’ll notice I haven’t even mentioned getting kicked out of school, driving when stoned, or other legal outcomes – just pay attention in your own world and you’ll notice the consequences yourself.

But of course, no matter what you decide. I’ll be here. If you ever need me, you just call and I’ll come get you, no matter where you are or how high you are.

And I’ll try to remember not to tweak you out by taking advantage of your paranoia when I get there.

 

**If you enojoyed this essay, you'll love the book, "Mom's Marijuana."**

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I'm printing this out and giving it to my teen. It's informative without being preachy--bravo! I can't do it without going into my paranoid fears but I can provide this as a resource. Thanks!
I think you hit all the bases, with just enough seriousness and just enough humor. Well done!
The doctor/writer you quote sounds like Andrew Weil, a friend of a friend I've met several times--he cured my 6-year-old son of warts through magic! His book for young people, From Chocolate to Morphine: Everything You Need to Know about Mind-Altering Drugs (1983/1993), was an indispensable resource when my house was full of adolescents. I checked a spare copy out to curious kids who swore they'd read at least the introduction, in which the main points are: a) the desire to alter consciousness is as old as human beings; b) there are many ways to achieve altered states without using drugs; and c) if you want to try drugs you'd damned well know all about them first. I wasn't worried about marijuana, and I told my kids that I didn't have a problem with plant psychotropics, taken responsibly, with attention to set and setting, but that if I ever caught them trying hard drugs or abusing alcohol I'd respond as you've told your daughters you will. My sons and their many friends who hung out at my house are now well into their 20s, and I can think of only one who isn't in great shape, and he abuses alcohol only. I owe a great deal in a positive way to my own experiences with psychedelic plants and I am a regular user of weed (and recently retired from 25 years as a publishing professional). A full-time single parent, I abhorred the idea of hypocrisy, so there was no mystique about pot smoking in my home. My boys' grown friends are still friends of mine and they recall with gratitude and affection that I answered all their questions and offered sane advice during their experimental years. I hope you will write more about the topic. Thanks for the post--this is the first time I've ever commented on a blog.
Well said. I will be reading this with my children this evening. Thank you!
Dan - I think you left out a significant category - the I Think I'll Smoke a Bowlers . . . slot them in between the visitors and the regulars. I would never think of starting the day off with pot. Nor do I need it to control anxiety or self-medicate. I do it because it's fun.

And I've been doing it off and on - the offs have been up to 6 months or a year - since 1965.

And I can smoke pot: drive a car at an autocross, play guitar, garden, cook killer osso bucco, re-wire an amplifier or play +2000 level Wei tennis . . . without any hacking cough.

And - of course, as I'm sure you know - I'd worry a whole lot more about kids and alcohol - especially if cars are involved.
Excellent post. Be sure to let them know that a lot of stoners "think" they're regulars or recreational smokers. Their job record, bank account and relationships (or lack thereof) tell the real truth.
I'm going to save this to use with my kid in a few years. Excellent post.
I am in the weird situation where my kids managed to go through their teen years without bothering with weed, then one day while discussing the sad demise of a former HS classmate of my son (OD at age 25), my wife lets out of the bag that I used to get stoned fairly regularly in college. A man should be able to sit in front of his own TV and not be lectured about his past drug use...
I think the dangerous part of weed is that its not nearly as dangerous as other drugs so kids don't think its that big of a deal. But overtime, it turns you into a boring person who is more likely to spend your Monday through Friday nights sitting in front of the TV eating rather than doing something productive and truly engaging, even if you are the functional type of pothead, which I have many friends who are. My parents took the 'ignore it' approach to drugs, which worked out only because I had a diligent and bitchy older sister who watched out for me. I wish they had talked about it to me openly with respect for my intelligence like this post does. Great perspective.
Very nicely done. I, too, will be saving this one for the day I need to cover the subject with my son (a day that will undoubtedly arrive sooner than I'd like...). (r)
Piffle; Give this speech and that giggling you here in your children’s bedroom will be about you. My friend the doctor says! “Unfortunately, before you inhale from your first joint, it’s impossible to know which group you’ll be in.” Ooh, scary stuff! Protect me Daddy, I don’t want to be a junkie.

If you speak to your children like children they will act like children. Doing drugs can get you into a lot of trouble with the law. You most likely won’t go to jail on a first time bust but you might lose your driver’s license and it will cost thousands of dollars to get you out of it. Money that daddy doesn’t have.

It will hinder your ability to get a job because most job applications ask, “Have you ever been arrested?” You will be required to answer, yes.

“Stoners. These are folks whose lives have slowed, and then stopped. For them, smoking weed results in gravity turning up -- it takes enormous effort for them to do anything, so they don’t.”

Yeah you don’t want to end up like, Steve Jobs, Bruce Lee, Allen Ginsburg, Hunter S. Thompson, Henry Manceni, Balzac, Alexander Dumas, Duke Ellington, Gene Krupa, James Brown you remember him, the hardest working man in show business. How about, Jack Kerouac, John Kerry, John Lennon, John Wayne, Jonathan Miller, Johnny Cash, Ken Kesey, Mike Bloomberg, Lewis Carroll, Ted Turner, Victor Hugo and William S. Burroughs.

You know who never smoked pot, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Ted Bundy.
Hey David Cox, you missed out Queen Victoria. She used it for menstrual cramps.
Jenni, don't be so patronizing about people who "spend [your] Monday through Friday nights sitting in front of the TV eating rather than doing something productive and truly engaging." I leave my house at 7am, and usually get home about 7:30pm. I carpool with my boss, so work usually starts when we're both in the car, and ends when one of us gets out. That's five days a week. Too damn right I park my ass in front of the TV in the evening. Mind you there's usually a book or a laptop in front of me as well when I'm not eating.
GeeBee,

I also left out that the Chinese were using it to treat illness 1000 years before Christ. The real question is why we feel a need to medicate ourselves.

In the 1960's and 70's we used to take LSD to make the world weird. Today we take medications to make the world less weird.
Very wise and wonderful. Highly rated.

This is an exerpt from one of my plays, which I think is in accord.

Setup: An about-to-die father of a same-sex marriage leaves a letter to his adopted (natch!) teenage daughter:

I am writing to give you the benefit of my experience and understanding of a few matters that are becoming increasingly important to you. I know that at times you think your Daddies are too old and distant from your world to understand your problems. Well, forget it. Jason and I have both been around the block and beyond. We’re as hip as you, probably hipper. And of the three of us, we’re the only ones that have been both your age and ours.

I leave to others instruction on how to make your life beautiful and moral. What I’m talking about is how to make it last and be free. Life and freedom versus death and dependency. If those alternatives don’t sound like very different things, then you don’t need to read any further.

Jason and I and, more recently, Jason, make many decisions about what you can and can’t do which have, and will, no doubt, continue to prompt the response: “You’re ruining my life!” Well, we’re not; we’re trying to save it.

Let’s deal with a few specifics:

Smoking—Normal Cigarettes. You already know that it’s a dirty, expensive, unhealthy habit. I couldn’t care less about the dirt or the expense. But unhealthy and habit brings us back to life and freedom. And after 30 smoke-free years, I can honestly say that I have never experienced a moment when I felt I was depriving myself of anything. I wish that kind of freedom for you. But, please, be considerate of those less fortunate who become addicted. A little secondhand smoke is less offensive than intolerance towards a fellow man who has a serious problem. And if, as I expect, you find yourself in the future meeting some new friends under rather dramatic circumstances, save a little tolerance for them as well.

Smoking—Funny Cigarettes. All the same problems as regular cigarettes, plus one more which is a biggie. The funny ones will in time make you a much less interesting person. They attack like an eraser, eventually obliterating the features that make you gloriously different from everyone else. The Stepford Wives were the original potheads. (Ask Jason to tell you who The Stepford Wives are.)

Hard Drugs and Unprotected Sex.

MARGUERITE
Wait! Is this part really necessary? Surely, my daughter would never . . .

JASON
Marguerite, remind me to ask you all about your recent stay on Mars, but right now, I’m going to finish this letter.

Hard Drugs and Unprotected Sex. Suicide, pure and simple. Anyone who tells you anything different is not only an idiot, but an idiot who wants you dead. Is it necessary to accommodate or try to please someone with that mentality and that motive? I don’t think so.

Alcohol. At last, an area where I can speak from experience not just understanding. Drinking has provided me with substantial enjoyment and relief throughout my life. It has also substantially limited my freedom. The real problem with alcohol is that I have seen it destroy lives, some of them owned by persons I do, or have, loved. I think what is important is for you to monitor very closely and carefully your own personal relationship with alcohol for the critical purpose of identifying at the earliest possible moment whether the stuff is likely to produce more pain than pleasure for you. If you suspect that you may be one of those unlucky persons who could be drawn into the web, run for your life--because that’s exactly what’s at stake.

I love you very much, Miranda, am very sorry that I’m not there to see you put all this good advice to work, and sincerely hope that I have not bored your socks off.
I personally like your approach insofar as realizing that extreme paranoia breeds curiosity in this realm. It's also smart in distinguishing the differences between various drugs and their effects. heading off the "well they lied to me about the power of marijuana so what other drugs aren't as bad as they said" line of thought.

Tiresome are some of the comments below this, such as the ranting boomer's snotty sounding "...one look at their job record and bank account..." statement.

Oh, and Jenni, "But overtime, it turns you into a boring person who is more likely to spend your Monday through Friday nights sitting in front of the TV eating rather than doing something productive " describes the vast swath of middle America, marijuana use or not. And for some of us, "normal" is vastly uninteresting.

Marijuana won't make you something you're not. Too many lazy people use the drug as an excuse when in reality it's their decision to lay around "being stoned" that is to blame.
Well said, the main misconception about marijuana is all use is abuse. But, although I have no problem with consenting adults partaking of marijuana as long as their world does not crash into mine, I do believe children (under 18) and even college adults are the most likely to become stoners. Why, because they are immature, narcissistic, and for the most part teens believe they are bulletproof. For these reasons there are some things that need to be put off until they are adults.

That does mean you talk about the issues and give factual information not anti-drug scare tactics and let your children know you only wish the best for them. In the event they do try it, most likely it will not be the end of the world because most will not choose the drug lifestyle.

In the event they do head towards Stonerville then all gloves are off and as a parent I would tell them buckle-up because the ride is going to get rough until you come to their senses.
Your daughters are lucky to have an understanding dad who is willing to talk to them about real things in the real world. This is a well-written post that even teenagers would be willing to read and learn from, I think. Nice job!

But mostly, I want to know where you got that picture of me after guzzling a full pot of coffee? And I'm wondering if you might consider authoring another post on the dangers of caffeine consumption...?
This is just so much nonsense and projection. There are NO categories of human interaction with drugs. The list here is composed of gross stereotypes that tell us more about the author than giving any accurate representation of marijuana users in today's society.

The best advice is the same simple advice that should guide every parent: be honest, have a real relationship with your children, and give them accurate information, not boilerplate DEA blather about "stoners".

I've smoked pot every single day for 45 years. I have always had a full time jobs, and two satisfying parallel careers. I've also raised three healthy, well adjusted adult children without once resorting to scare tactics, threats, or ridiculous advice like this.
Kevin - it's only "snotty sounding" if you haven't watched someone you love go down that road and not be able to do a danged thing but watch. Opinions are funny things. We all got em. I don't call people snotty when their opinion isn't the same as mine. ;)
Your daughters and all the children of the parents fortunate enough to have read this piece are lucky little duckies. You are one extra-cool dad who knows how to eloquently tell it like it is. Wonderful! Thanks. Rated
This post is most timely for me. I just had an illuminating conversation with my 20 year old daughter on this same subject. It was quite productive and informative for both of us.

Great post.
Excellent, Dan Shapiro! Thank you. Alas, you left out the worst consequence of drug use in this country, and that is, if you get caught, your friends and family where you live can lose everything to the law enforcement agencies, including their very homes... I hope I'm wrong about this, but it's what I've heard and it scares me dreadfully. What an insane and barbaric law!! What a lovely drug!
This was great!! Brilliantly spoken.. Oh! The "Let's Talk about Weed Talk." Oh I remember this talk with both my girls. Basically I said around the same things you have said in this post. Even the jumping in front of the car, and I threatened my girls to take them to the police station.
Well it worked for my girls and I hope it works for your daughter also.
Oh I forgot to mention, I also knew all the cops in town, so that helped out a bunch too..
Good luck..
Great post..
There are three kinds of marijuana smokers.

First - it's great to be honest and open and realistic with your kids.

But this "categorization" seems overly simplistic and I'd be afraid that the kids would take away from this that they are ALREADY one of these "types" and that it's just a matter of discovering which one.

I don't think that's right. I think it's just more complicated than this.

I'd rather take approach where I talk about a "spectrum" of substances all the way from fat and sugar, to caffeine, to pot, to alcohol to harder drugs. They all have varying characteristics of risk/reward, of legality, of cultural acceptance and of addictiveness which interplay with a person's own temperment and genetics.

A mature person has to take all these factors into account and decide their path.

It's about giving a full picture.

I think these "types" are overly simplistic.

But it's a good start....
There's no one right way, as parents have different values. But having an honest chat is important, so I happily rate this post.
There is significant evidence that marijuana use increases the risk of schizophrenia. For most people, the risk is still low enough that this isn't a concern. Anyone with a touch of schizophrenia in the family, should consider it a very real risk. This is one of the things I tell my kids. (Plus the fact that they live in a country where they do NOT want to get in trouble with the law. Being arrested will result in hard labor, not a hand slap.)

Children are more likely to become stoners because their brains haven't fully developed. Regular use of drugs, legal or not, has a bigger impact on kids than adults for that reason.
Funny. And scary. And funny. and ....
Nice analysis. From personal experience I can tell you what's happened here. All of my friends who raised their kids with "I did it so you can too," and "it's not big deal," have terrible, terrible problems. The worst is now in jail at age 17 and dealing meth: started with pot. The other worst case scenario, when she started smoking it as a teenager, her mother, my friend told her: Just do it on weekends. Her 17 year old daughter smokes it non-stop and is now borderline psychotic. Her future probably already ruined.

I just said No. No to my son. No you don't do drugs. No. And he has turned out great. Stop being friends with your kids and be their parents, I've seen the outcome when you don't.
Did you tell your daughters that you like it?
I like the message to your girls about coming to get them at any time, no matter what state they're in. I'm going to deliver that message to my kids and hope that, if and when that day comes, they will make the call. Thank you for a great article.
You've opened up a great discussion here. Weed is a great thing like a chocolate donut is a great thing like a single malt scotch is a great thing. "All things in moderation" and "Do no harm" are wonderful mantras to live by. Every parent needs a dialogue like this with their kids. Each approach will be a bit different, individualized for personal histories and needs, but the important thing is that it is discussed openly and genuinely. Thanks for getting this ball rolling.
This was excellent my friend. I think you covered all the bases. From an ole' hippy, I can't think of anything you missed. But then again, I am an ole' hippy. Thanks!
I can still remember today an event probably 55 years ago that worked for me.

My parents went to the movies with another couple, a rather unusual event. They saw Frank Sinatra in "A Man With A Golden Arm". About a man with a Heroin addiction, I think I never saw the movie. The next morning my mother told me that she loved me very much but if I ever got mixed up in drugs she would disown me.
I barely understood what she was talking about but when a 8 year old is told by his mother that she would never want to see him again, it had an effect on me.

Unfortunately when my nephew "got mixed up with drugs" she didn't follow thru. She became an excuser and an enabler. He is now in prison.
You should write a book.
I always liked weed as a creative tool. Just a puff or two and I got into my painting and drawing and writing. I did not get into selling or teaching or framing however. But I still dont regret a moment of all those wonderful hours of just seeing. Ambition is over rated. Gratitude and the ability to enjoy anything is something that weed can give you. I never thought of it as a party drug. I liked to puff a little as a spiritual ladder and have it take me to places in my imagination and awareness that awed me. My dad always told me "Moderation in all things." Great blog. Thank you. Legalize Pot and tax it!!!!
I must admit, I still find it weird that acetaminophen is available over the counter in every town in America - even though an overdose can kill you. On the other hand, weed is ranked right up there with heroin, even though it is virtually impossible to overdose on and has an exceptional record of safe use.

Not that I'm condoning or encouraging the use of either drug.

I've told my kids the truth. I don't smoke weed because I don't want to spend a night (or longer) in the tank because somebody took offense. When I am old I may change my tune - but as long as I am a viable, working member of society I will do my best to avoid incarceration. Even if that means insomnia has its way with me for a few decades.
My Dad basically said the same thing to me. One time he did pick me up when I was "under the weather". I miss him.
Why did you leave out the group of people that rely on it for medicinal reasons? As a medical marijuana patient, I am rather outraged at the fact that you did!
"...what their doing today..."
"...what their doing today..."
As the OS's (self-appointed) addiction expert, I will second the previous comment about medical uses of pot. When I was recovering from the loss of a lung to cancer (but not from lung cancer), I discovered that smoking pot actually eased post-operative symptoms and made the subsequent radiation therapy far more comfortable.

The ongoing debate about marijuana was actually ended by no less a figure than New York Mayor Fiorello La Guardia, who empaneled a committee of medical experts who systematically contradicted claims made by the U.S. Treasury Department that smoking marijuana results in insanity, deteriorates physical and mental health, assists in criminal behavior and juvenile deliquency, is physically addictive, and is a "gateway" drug to more dangerous drugs in a study completed in 1944, after five years of investigation.
I don't understand why people assume pot sits you down and shuts you up. It has always energized me..Sometimes my sis will come over and we will sit on the porch swing and take a few tokes and then I can't sit there another minute; we are up and I'm showing her the garden or something...I find that it makes doing the everyday chores a little smoother. I'm careful with it however...it's not inexpensive and less is more..
Brilliant. I don't just love your writing. I love your kind of human being. As a teacher, weed is an insurmountable obstacle. It's like an obese squatter in the middle of the classroom that I have to wedge myself around. The "regulars" are nigh impossible to lift beyond C or D quality work. Thank you so much for this post.
Excellent piece- you covered all your bases in an authoritative style, but without condescension. I'll make sure my kids see this one.

Myself, I never felt the urge to smoke pot, and I fully understand the reason why. The "stoners" you reference- I grew up in the house with one- my grandfather. Papau took up pot with my late uncle, after vietnam. I grew up watching this old man grow his own pot in the backyard, and roll his own joints, right at the kitchen table. It smells awful, both growing and burning. Daily use over decades ruined his memory, and sapped him of the will to do anything but sit around the house. It was a shame- he was a brilliant man, with a mind for strategy and a deep understanding of history- but he slowly disintegrated into confusion and lethargy. The best antidrug program in the world is associative; for me, pot will always be associated with embarassment and shame, with fear of the neighbors finding out, with the horror of watching Papau screw up dates and lose track of his point in a conversation. It has no cachet, is deeply unsexy.
I agree with this. I just wanted to say that a lot of stoners will argue that the "stoner" group doesn't exist and that they're all really just "regulars." To those folks: You're in denial. You may have been a regular at one point, but you've slipped into the stoner group. If you want proof, look at what you're doing right now: arguing on the internet!

/hopefully, you never resort to living like this: http://www.urinalgum.com/?p=325
Good article.
This is pretty much what I told my kids many years ago with a few exceptions.

Sick people: A lot of evidence that chemo and other patients think it helps them so I don't see a need for a big company to make profits from the sick and dying. I don't believe a study with placebo will indicate a change in their thinking. If any chance exists that it can be effective in cancer remission treatment that is research I support.

Politics: If anything can be done to stop the insanity and deaths from its prohibition and control can be asserted I'm all for that to. You can easily be hurt , arrested or killed by being at the wrong place at the wrong time. So be aware of your surroundings , people you associate with and think ahead if you can.

Finally, I'm not to keen on threatening children with police or any other thing for that matter. You may never get her back. I worked for government 29 years and knew many intelligent and dedicated people. I also knew many would could screw up a peanut butter sandwich. Some of them where same people. I would however tell her that she's going to a program and she would not be able to do anything about that. I that goes for any behavior that gets out of control. Hate, rage, etc.

My kids are 20 somethings now and I think it worked fairly well. Now for the grandkids.
Good job. Addressing this and many other subjects inherent with pitfalls and dangers is among the most important thing we can do for our kids and all ensuing generations that will follow us. As with all heavily nuanced subjects and circumstances e.g. sex, drugs, rock and roll, booze, guns, banking, et. al. it takes many years and many minds to refine a message to accurately fit the problems to be encompassed. As many dissenting posters have pointed out, contrary to their hopes or expectations, you have not done so here. If your kids are exceptionally bright, they will see through the weaknesses in your proposition. If they are strong and or strongly supported, they will hopefully not be betrayed by them. Overly broad statements, stereotypes, mistaken conclusions and outright falsehoods corrupt intelligence, but without them we would be denied recourse to mythology as a teaching tool.
This is a wonderful post. You're a great parent.
I have favoring opinions on weed. Seems like alcohol is the real problem child. Weed seems like a problem when you fall into that stoner category.

It still seems, even in this day and age, we tend to get more preachy overall when it comes to weed. There's a righteous undertone that exists that doesn't seem to be as present when it comes to booze. Less likely to be preachy about booze if you're sipping on your nightly martini, you know? And of course, alcohol is the mother of all troublemakers, life wreckers, accident makers, domestic abusers, etc.

Frankly, anything you use to remove yourself from your reality mentally - which could just as easily be work or exercise or relationships. (Many, MANY young girls and women spend a highly disproportionate amount of time tormenting themselves about their significant other, for instance, who is off playing football or having fun. Some of those obsesso chicks could stand to smoke pot and get out of their mind for a bit!)

It's great that you're having an open dialogue with your daughters about it - that's the most important part.

Strangely, most of the teens I meet anymore are so straight-edged. They're just not into the whole paryting scene as much as I used to be.
as a former 'bus rider' I would like to point out we started smoking weed at 12. I was a nice normal doctor's kid in a middle to upper class suburb in the Midwest. Sorry, but by the time your kids hit 14 you're too late for this...although I'm sure they'll think it's very nice and that you care.
good stuff . I think mentioning lsd, mushrooms, extasy... etc could also aid in signs of progressive destruction.
Thanks, Dude - I mean, Dad.

My kids also know I've indulged, as it were, in the weeditocracy, and this puts it all down there - and out there. I, too, will steal - um, borrow your words.

Again, thanks!
Excellent. Just wonderfully humorous and downright awesome. I've wondered how I will explain things like this to my son in about 5 years and this just fits the bill perfectly. Great job capturing the essence of what can be harmless for some and dangerous for others and the problem is you never know which you are until it happens.
Bravo! This is about the best run down Ive seen....and I LOVE the turn in your stance when it comes to ANY drug beyond marijuana. You are so right, so on target and such a cool dad. Your kids are fortunate and I am sure they hear you!!. I've got one teen down, one to go....so far so good....thanks for the support!
I don't have kids, but I remember the pot talk very well growing up. My mother was a herion addict, and my father's a blue collar hippie. The one time my cousins who were adults while I was still a young teen, came to visit and went to smoke pot with my parents. My dad pulled me aside and told me that he had no problems with me smoking pot, but to try to wait as long as possible, after high school being ideal. One of my cousins told me the same thing, making me pinky swear I wouldn't till I was 18. I waited till I was 17 and my mom offered to "smoke me up." I can honestly say that it didn't take. I'm not a fan of the "fuzzy" feeling. I will still very rarely partake, though usually if I am having a hard time sleeping, or I have bad cramps.

When it comes time for me to have kids I think I would go about it the same way my dad did. He answered my questions, even ones I didn't voice, and as I grew older didn't hide those things from me.

My dad's a regular, though not a wake and baker. Mostly on the weekends, or if he's having bad joint pains. My mom on the other hand is past "stoner." Though with her case, she has an addictive personality and ANYTHING is addictive for her. I walk a thin line everytime I choose to smoke, or take a drink into falling into her category, but I know the risks and have a living example as to why moderation is key in all things.
My new friends! Thanks for writing comments -- very thoughtful group, I've tried to respond here to everyone.

Dear mypsyche, stoneman, Blue, wordsmith, Brie, Rooster, ConnieMack, Shawhan, thanks for the parenting love.

GeeBee, ouch, and funny!

David Cox and Porsadgai – I expected you – yeah, for some people, weed is a religion, and because you’ve successfully navigated the world using weed regularly (a regular), you feel that everyone should be able to – but I think you’re ignoring a vast stoner swath of the weed smoking population. Check out Nmissi’s post. I guess you can argue that stoners were losers to begin with, but that runs counter to what I’ve seen too. For some people, weed has a deleterious impact. I just don’t that’s deniable.

Bonnie: good point about the power of the weed. It is stronger.

Kevin, I had a friend who used to say that weed just amplifies what you already think and feel – that it will make you ** more ** boring, or artistic or whatever. I think this was a little romantic, but intriguing.

Penrose, I think you need to get caught with a pretty significant quantity to lose everything, but I’m not a legal expert...anyone else?

Dawdler, I like your nuanced view of all substances – yet I think my adolescent and adolescen-to-be needed a little more clarity than all substances can be poisons at the wrong dose.... I think the risk reward profiles are complex, and weed is particularly difficult to talk about.

Malusinka – I’ve seen that data and do not find it convincing. Young schizophrenics will tell you that they’ve tried a variety of substances in an attempt to feel better. (they also smoke like fiends) Then researchers correlated the weed with schizophrenia – there’s been far more careful work done in alcohol use and brain damage in adolescents.

Eric and Jamie – I think you’re right about the laws – as someone who smoked when I had cancer as a young man, it is absurd to me that we have powerful addictive and potentially lethal opiates in our arsenal but physicians can't prescribe marijuana in most states. (See book, mom’s marijuana).

Freethinker – very funny. It took hours of waiting near your coffee machine with the right lighting.

Coptic – I was writing useful categories for my daughter whom, I happen to know, does not need medicinal marijuana. As someone who smoked weed to cope with the side effects of chemotherapy and studied the Institute of Medicine report on weed, I am aware of the drug’s usage. But my daughter does not yet have glaucoma, back pain, or, thankfully, cancer.

Maureenow – thanks! It’s fun to put out something that resonates.

Ajinaz – we all navigate parental advice differently – good luck with the grandkids.

Nmissi – I’m sorry you had that experience – I used your experience to remind some of our more passionate weed advocates that not everyone navigates smoking easily.

Forge – I get the criticism, but don’t hear how you’d suggest we talk about weed with our kids.

Urinalgum (wild name) – great point.

Zanelle -- cool.

Ryan – thanks man.

Hey Beth -- agree about the dialogue and preachy thing – I come down harder on alcohol because of some of the brain damage research – I’ll share that here at some point soon.

Duffmetal – good point. I should probably write something about those drugs too.

Penelope -- I like your stance on hypocrisy - well articulated, thanks.

Wax – yeah, 12 or 13 is when it starts for many. Bummer.

Thanks Alice!
You were really stoned when you wrote this, weren't you? It is completely devoid of any useful information. It rambles like a stoner wondering where his Cheetos went, man. It's only point is, "You never know how weed's going to affect you." Well, duh.

I doubt your daughters bothered reading past the first lame paragraph. Sober up, Dad.
Im sorry to say but this is just total BS. There is no scientific fact anywhere in this "story". All I can say is, "Dad, you're a hack".

Cannibis should be legalized. Im tired of trillions of my tax dollars being spent on this war on drugs. I hate to inform all you law followers, but we are losing the war and look at all the inocent people being killed along the borders with the USA and Mexico. All to keep little miss cant be wrong and johnny perfect from smoking a joint.
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My teenaged years would have been SO MUCH SIMPLER (and safer) if I'd have had a parent like you. While I can look back with a certain degree of self-satisfaction and think "Well, heh, I figured that out by myself", it generally comes accompanied by the haunting memories of the times I very nearly Fucked It All Up.

I was never educated about drugs - one way or the other. I learned by talking to older friends, watching the effects upon others and, of course, experimentation - the old dog.

Now I have a child of my own and I'm curious to see what kind of parent I'll be when they Drug Years arrive (He's 4 right now). Drug awareness and education (in the UK at least) fails because its two primary assumptions are incorrect:

1. Kids are gullible.
2. Kids are dumb.

Teenagers will never - and should never - believe everything an adult tells them. There should be scope for adventure, self-discovery and, yes, a little bit of danger. But limits need to be imposed to simply help them stay out of any real harm, and the current method of trying to scare the shit out of them is doomed to fail because we, somehow, expect kids to believe that drugs are bad without wondering why, if that's actually the case, so many people take them.

As with sex, relationships, families, death and a whole host of other stuff that can really, seriously change the shape of someone's adolescent years, drugs and addiction need to be handled by someone they know and trust. A teacher standing up in the front of the class or some nameless ex-junkie coming in to give a talk is hardly going to prompt anyone to think rationally and volunteer information on a trust basis.

No, this letter is the way to do it; humour, love, a little discipline and consequence and, finally, solidarity: it's your life - it's up to you to make your choices. But I'm your parent and it's up to me to love you no matter what, take care of you when you need it and kick your ass when you're out of line.

Congratulations for being able to see your daughters as human; let's hope so many others catch up soon.

Shel x
Okay I have some comments and I dunno if they've been addressed or not (I got too lazy to read all the comments below (so sue me :P)).

To begin with, I LOVE that speech. I (as an older teen/young adult (whatever you wanna call us)) am SICK of parents and those higher up always spouting about how "bad" and "harmful" weed is when they themselves have done it and some STILL do. I'm not saying its a good idea to tell teens "weeds good, here's a joint!" no, just tell us the facts cut and dry.

But there were a couple of things I didn't personally agree with. I don't think "visiters" immediately get paranoid (unless they're in a compromising position in the first place, like hiding it) nor do I think they have as bad of memories as you mention. I know it has that effect on people to forget things easier, but I'd say they forget details at most (just my opinion on that).

I'd also have to say lump the "Bus-Riders" with the "Stoners" because that's usually what happens. Although, sometimes those who become them come out of the funk (though its rare).

And I totally agree with your "harder drug" mentality, I'd bitch-slap my kid if they did that, too, but I'd rather them smoke a joint than drink a beer (personally, I think its safer).

Awesome speech, definitely happy I stumbled across it. :)
I've always felt that the insane lies and hysteria surrounding dope leads kids to believe that ALL drugs are similarly harmless -- a little truth-telling goes a long ways. If it's a white powder, STAY THE F AWAY FROM IT. Honesty is the best policy.
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this is awesome. i am a daughter myself and a "regular/stoner". my dad had a similar talk with my like this about weed and now i can control it. saying no, it's bad is just a horrible way to do it. he doesn't want me to do it but knows he can't stop me. we talk about it all the time and he's really comfortable about it. you're doing the right thing by being really calm about it. way to go!
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Man, look at all those comments, dang. But about the subject at hand, being a conesuer of the ghanga, or bluberry budha bud, or the "power plant"(a personal favorite). When it comes to our government, everything they have ever said, printed, or implied, is a bold face lie (shock). For one, if your trying to "protect"someone, don't lie, in fact, don't lie about anything, it's not becomming. But our "leaders" don't get it. That lying, removes all credibility, makes you liik bad, and no one listens after awhile. Being a parent of three beutiful kids myself, and being an avid blazer, in front of them or not, I didn't ever try to "hide" it. And ant questions they may have had, I answered honestly, and I think they respected me for that, now grown, none of them endulge in the herbage, it's that damn alcohol, the politicians drug of choice, that does the damage. I hate the US government, and everything it stands for. For one, I hate being lied to, in fact it's the thing that has ended friendships for me more than anything else. And the governments constant lying, has turned me off on America. Weed smokers are a better class of people, than the ones that make our laws.
Spot on and most excellent piece. Being open and honest with teens about marijuana becomes even more important in the context of medical cannabis as well.
Good daddy. Very good. Lucky daughters.
The fact that you even attempted to cubby-hole any person, stoner or otherwise, indicates a complete lack of understanding of human psychology. We are all individuals who indulge in our escapism for completely different reasons, with completely different results. You have completely missed the mark. Sorry. Oh, and please learn to master the English language. You arrogance astounds me...
There is a different tenor to weed-smoking in states with legalized medical marijuana.

As the mother of a couple of 420 friendly kids (19 and 22) in PA, I have been comparing their experiences over the years with those of my sister's Bay Area kids. For California kids, access is easy (any teenager can get a social anxiety or ADD diagnosis that entitles them to a prescription), and the potency is off the charts. While these factors shouldn't in themselves lead to any more pot-smoking, they do remove some serious obstacles for kids. And most of the arguments based on the downhill trajectory of pothead slackerdom don't make an impression on the teen-aged brain.

Even for a liberal-minded mother with no illusions of zero-tolerance regarding her kids' use of substances, it makes for some serious challenges to parenting.
I wish our "leaders" would see it like you do, and most of the people who wrote comments: Cannabis is not a dangerous and deadly drug. Only prohibition is. This is a sad chapter of today's politics, and since the Cannabis prohibition has been installed world wide by the United Nations, it is only the United Nations who could make the world's politics about Cannabis sane again.

Unfortunately, it is controlled by hardliners who refuse to listen to reason at the UNODC, the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime. Here is a very recent report about how they treat organisations who "dare" to criticize their war on drugs: http://transform-drugs.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-unodc-welcomes-ngo-involvement.html
Thank you so much for this post! Very well said! I too, will be printing this for my daughter!
You give stoners a bad name. Why don't you do some research before you just start writing out stereotypes. Shameful.
The second half of your letter (and indeed many of the comments) falls into the classic confusion of correlation vs causation. Marijuana is not the cause of any of the behaviors exhibited by your different marijuana smokers- it is only a symptom of their personality types or possible disorders.
Take away the existence of marijuana right now, and the same people who are stoners today would still be sitting on their couch, eating doritos and using some other intoxicant that gives them a similar stoned effect all day tomorrow.
Some people use food, others use shopping, and some people even end up under a bridge shooting up heroin, but they're all using these things to extremely detrimental levels because these intoxicants are coping mechanisms that serve the users' deeper problems with anxiety, insecurity and depression. Boring, stupid people who try weed become boring, stupid potheads. Alternately, smart, motivated people who try weed become energetic, out-of-the-box thinkers.
No letter about using drugs is ever going to stand in for your job as a parent to raise motivated, well-adjusted kids with good self-esteem. Just teach them not to smoke out in public or other stupid shit that will get them arrested, and the rest is really up to your skills as a parent and the genes you've given them.
I think you did an amazing job here--very honest and very loving. We who lived through the 60s and 70s have trouble talking about this stuff with our kids. I think you've given a good model of how to do it and what can be said. Thank you!
Amazing, you nailed me with the stoners stereotype, and don't smoke anything...but back when I did smoke-out a decade or more ago I was a type "A" banal retentive.
And, don't get me wrong, I would even now, but the people that you have to deal with..Geez! Legalize it!
Now, I just sing Karaoke which is worse.
I'm late, but thought I would pop in to say excellent advice. As a member of the afterschool special generation I really appreciate this perspective. Rated.
I think that this is the best article that I have read in a long time. I think that you hit the nail on the head and that your daughter should be proud that you are her father. Ileen Low Cost Health Insurance Agent
I think you get an A for effort. You obviously care about your daughters and want the best for them.

I think there might be a few more dangerous drugs out there than weed, however.

Like alcohol. Kills more, leads to more unwanted pregnancy, puts more people in jail.

Bonnie, I loved how you forgot something critical because you hadn't gotten your morning "fix" (caffeine is a drug too)

Dawdler has it down with this:

I'd rather take approach where I talk about a "spectrum" of substances all the way from fat and sugar, to caffeine, to pot, to alcohol to harder drugs. They all have varying characteristics of risk/reward, of legality, of cultural acceptance and of addictiveness which interplay with a person's own temperment and genetics.
Wonderful perceptions on the alternative state of mind.
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Just discovered & shared this on FB---terrific read...it's all been said here...you're a wise dad....especially loved ur take on hard drugs...as i told my girls whenever they've suggested that we were lucky that they never did drugs, my reply? always the same: drug abuse was never an option in my home... "my body would have to be dead and cold and even then, i'd haunt you if you ever turned down that road..." just not an option for my kids who are now 30, 25 &22----no drug problems ever....alcohol? sure but no drugs among them....not even pot which they associate with 'old folks'.....and yes, I've inhaled.
I've done a fair bit of research on the subject and I am sure there is another type not mentioned, the avid non-smoker. I agree with what you wrote but I feel that you missed one large demographic. There are those who fear cannabis and are fueled by political and social propaganda that cannabis is a dangerous gateway drug.
This was awesome! Both of my teens will be reading this!
This is just so much nonsense and projection. There are NO categories of human interaction with drugs. The list here is composed of gross stereotypes that tell us more about the author than giving any accurate representation of marijuana users in today's society. The best advice is the same simple advice that should guide every parent: be honest, have a real relationship with your children, and give them accurate information, not boilerplate DEA blather about "stoners".
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Hey Khan -- are you also Porsadgai? You both wrote identical criticisms, only porsadgai acknowledged smoking every day for the last 45 years. Perhaps you forgot that you'd already lodged the same criticism under a different name? Either that, or you plagiarized someone else's word-for-word criticism in the same stream? Kind of odd either way.

For some people, marijuana does interfere with day to day memory. I'm not saying that applies to you (both?)...
You've started a great discussion here. Weed is a great thing like a chocolate donut is a great thing like a single malt scotch is a great thing. "All things in moderation" and "Do no harm" are wonderful mantras to live by. Every parent needs a dialogue like this with their kids. Each approach will be a bit different, individualized for personal histories and needs, but the important thing is that it is discussed openly and genuinely.
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Well as with all heavily nuanced subjects and circumstances e.g. sex, drugs, rock and roll, booze, guns, banking, et. al. it takes many years and many minds to refine a message to accurately fit the problems to be encompassed. Many dissenting posters have pointed out, contrary to their hopes or expectations, you have not done so here. If your kids are exceptionally bright, they will see through the weaknesses in your proposition. If they are strong and or strongly supported, they will hopefully not be betrayed by them. Overly broad statements, stereotypes, mistaken conclusions and outright falsehoods corrupt intelligence.
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Weed usage still is very rampant these days. People who are mostly on music industry such as artists have some of them been using weed. It should be brought to mind that this would cause severe disruption of a peaceful mind. I am an artist but I do am against weed. I am not endorsing this prohibited drug. In old times music oriented people uses weed as support to their performance but these days people who are using this could be in grave danger, not just in health but could be jailed if caught. To all music lovers out there don't do drugs.
Weed is an not advisable drug to boost one's self confidence if ever on stage as pertaining to Music Artists. The old days took part on drug abuse when they are performing. People should be aware of this. Weed isn't an alternative for boosting or hyper one's feeling. This post talked about weed usage and its effects I do agree here. Music artists should not be endorsing this. No to prohibited drugs.
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My kid started with some 'legal' drugs and then quickly moved into weed and when she didnt feel what she needed resorted to harder drugs. Perhaps weed itself isnt as bad as some drugs but for my daughter it was a stepping stone to stuff way more dangerous.

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I think you're right about one thing: The need to "try out something different" (weed in this case) and alter our stated of mind increases as the emotional distance between ourselves and our everyday reality becomes bigger. Then we're more prone to try and find fun somewhere else, escape, rebel, etc. The simple fact of us as fathers being non-judgemental and close to our children, deters them from their looking in the wrong places for replacements of inner joy, I believe.
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it turns you into a boring person who is more likely to spend your Monday through Friday nights sitting in front of the TV eating rather than doing something productive and truly engaging, even if you are the functional type of pothead, which I have many friends who are. My parents took the 'ignore it' approach to drugs, which worked out only because I had a diligent and bitchy older sister who watched out for me. I wish they had talked about it to me openly with respect for my intelligence like this post does. Great perspective. cheapest auto insurance, auto insurance quotes, buy phentermine online
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Weed is bad for you indeed...never let your kids try it...

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I want to express my admiration of your writing skill and ability to make readers read from the beginning to the end. I would like to read newer posts and to share my thoughts with you.
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This problem is very well known to me. My dad use have real money poker parties at our house almost every weekend. If you ever been to one, you should know that those guys smoke a lot and drink a lot. I think that is how I was first introduced to tobacco - still smoking and can't quit. But I have learned my lesson and play poker online to protect my kids.
Excellent article and I figure your book is well worth a read, even if it's not filled with pot humour. Thanks and now I'm off to buy RX for my anxiety rather than going to the nearest stree corner.
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I also left out that the Chinese were using it to treat illness 1000 years before Christ. The real question is why we feel a need to medicate ourselves.

In the 1960's and 70's we used to take LSD to man boobs exercise make the world weird. Today we take medications to make the world less weird.
Thats a nice way to explain it out but I guess the generation x is so much exposed to all kinds of information that they think they know it all and they want it all too. Sometime sit gets really confusing to find a way to explain things to young adults.
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This is great advice for the up-tight parental types like me! I'd rather talk about anything other than have an honest weed talk.
I really like this post. I like the way you seem open and honest with your kids. It reminds me a little of how my dad began talking to me about drugs. He basically said it was okay to want to experiment but certain things could get out of hand. Both of my parents, and particularly my father, experimented with substances and lived to tell the tale. But as I became more drawn into a drug culture and started using more dangerous things than they had experienced in the sixties and seventies, more dangerous things than they knew how to handle, they stopped talking to me about it. In retrospect it was clear that they were too afraid of what I was doing to be able to even broach the subject with me. So although I appreciate the liberal, straight-talk approach you and my parents have in common, I hope you are ready to follow through with it.
as an ex smoker id say you have it spot on! i may print this and save it for when my children are older
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Dude, you really look like a grown up man. But on dad front, you need few tips. You must have to pay patience. Its not like in a day or in fortnight your kid will understand you. It depends mostly on your family position right now (and with position I really mean how lovely you people are connected to each other not in wealth terms).
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All the best dude. I hope she will understand your front.
I'm pretty much a libertarian on drugs. Take what you want, however, marijuana still accounts for large numbers of ER admissions.
Perfect blog post. It does a great job of speaking the truth and warning of the dangers. Growing up, I know I always questioned when does smoking become more of habit than hobby. You are a great writer...and father.
I got paid by my Dad not to take any drugs - and this worked incredibly well. When you are a teen, cash always triumphs over everything else.
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in which to come back to. a 17 year old is only going to make decisions that are self gratifying, it doesn't make them the right decisions. she has to ... I don't know, ...... not happy, i think i'm going to wait till the morning to talk. I'll let you know how it goes. I guess, I'll just start and see how she reacts and take it from there.....
I have often thought what to tell my tweens. I may indeed show them your letter. I will also mention that I never liked getting high and was bored silly at parties where people were high. It seemed they were avoiding interacting with each other by getting lost in their own worlds. My husband, though, still gets high when playing music with friends.

The only other thought is providing the information unknown to us as kids. Many a study has indicated that smoking pot before 22 will effect brain development. Here's one article: http://www.livescience.com/health/090203-marijuana-brain.html
Living under a government whose laws procure no relief from the demand-supply, truly capitalist economy of illicit psychotropic chemicals, I'm concerned about the quality of the characters (ie, the marketers/dealers) and their ‘goods’ in illicit activities which, afford ever more intense doses of psychotropics not directly derivative of non-gmo photosynthetic processes.

No parent ever suggested to me that our high school have a mandatory class where students would be responsibly introduced to natural psychotropics and un-natural psychotropics (no sampling of the latter except for observations of certified lab animals) with lab periods sort of like a home-economics sampling the goods exercises. When such an idea was broached to fellow teachers, not a one was other than intrigued by the thought yet no one suggested his own child be in the first class.

I don’t imagine for a minute that the student culture, or the students’ general society has changed a whole lot, rather, now we don’t have guys (very rarely girls) flying by our doors and windows fleeing the campus security/administration from some distant point on campus because we better fenced off the side and back of my classroom at the end of the wing, end of campus before the woods, separating campus from “there”, off-campus. The chase scenes were not always illicit drugs running, literally in these cases, but the characters were remarkably the same, some even being my students when on campus, and, for one reason or another, appearing to have no more important place to be than warming a seat with his rear, a desktop with his forearms and breath in science class. D-minus, the D standing for psychotropes(psychotropics) in general, one can seldom be sure specifically.

While I wouldn’t start one, a cannabis discussion titled “When Is the Best Time to Share A First Puff With Your Teen?” would draw my attention. United States’ “War on Drugs” has been worse than an abject failure since well before being christened with a name by a paternity of chain-smoking alcoholics whose portfolios, campaign contributions interlock with corporate interests associated with wealth accrued through federal and state licensed/taxed, brewed and distilled, spirits.

The demonization of marijuana propaganda/mentality is a relic of what Tom Brokaw has labeled “The Greatest Generation”.
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@ Bonnie Russell... the pot was not as strong ?
I beg to differ, mon amie. Pot was great in the 60s!

Mexican, Jamaican ghanja, Panama Red, Sensimilia, kif, opium, , mescaline, bennies, LSD, methedrine, amphetemines, morphine, cocaine, were all better back then. I stopped short when I found myself taking cocaine through my eyes because otherwise it just put me to sleep.
I'm clean now, 20 years. It doesn't hurt any more.
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I thank you Dan Shapiro. I hope your children do too.


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@ Bonnie Russell... the pot was not as strong ?
I beg to differ, mon amie. Pot was great in the 60s!

Mexican, Jamaican ghanja, Panama Red, Sensimilia, kif, opium, , mescaline, bennies, LSD, methedrine, amphetemines, morphine, cocaine, were all better back then. I stopped short when I found myself taking cocaine through my eyes because otherwise it just put me to sleep.
I'm clean now, 20 years. It doesn't hurt any more.
Read the book. It's called Nine Lives.

I thank you Dan Shapiro. I hope your children do too.


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AWESOME! I wish I had had the forethought to write something like this to my two, now adult, bio children instead of trying to explain Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" campaign and the fact that, few of their friends seemed to follow her program. I, do, however, have just turned 16 y/o fraternal stepdaughters who will be getting a copy of your letter upon their next visitation with their dad and me! I applaud your talent, information and the dedicated parental love you obviously have for your children! BRAVO! R
Great article, my daughter just turned 13 so I think I should probably be having this talk now (if not 1-2 years ago)

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I personally have never used weed myself and when the time comes to talk to my daughter about it that is exactly what I'm going to tell her. However, I was the only one of my friends in high school and college that didn't do any kind of drugs or even drinking. I don't think weed is "evil" I'll just try to instruct my daughter to use her brain and make good decisions. A little bit of fun is cool but you have to know where to draw the line.
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You are an american. Contradicting yourself trough a terrible hypocritical speech. Fix yourself before you try to fix someone else to your standards and conservative values. Your to stubborn to change your views on marijuana from what you've first heard. ITS GOOD FOR YOU. accept it. If you want to save her life get rid of caffeine, fast food, and other processed foods.
You are an american. Contradicting yourself trough a terrible hypocritical speech. Fix yourself before you try to fix someone else to your standards and conservative values. Your to stubborn to change your views on marijuana from what you've first heard. ITS GOOD FOR YOU. accept it. If you want to save her life get rid of caffeine, fast food, and other processed foods.
Excellent post. Be sure to let them know that a lot of stoners "think" they're regulars or recreational smokers. Their job record, bank account and relationships (or lack thereof) tell the real truth. It's almost exacly the same with Barbie spelletjes which you can play online.
I also left out that the Chinese were using it to treat illness 1000 years before Christ. The real question is why we feel a need to medicate ourselves. We don't need to do it to play the bubble spinner game.
Very nicely done. I, too, will be saving this one for the day I need to cover the subject with my son (a day that will undoubtedly arrive sooner than I'd like...). Do you have an externe harde schijf at home?
As someone who has been clean & sober for 28 years, I want to say that this was a fun read.
I can laugh at a lot of the bullshit about pot only because I can laugh at myself first.
It is a very true case af "been there/donethat".
As for those who think they know it all about the weed of yesterday not being as strong as today's, well they've obviously never heard of Panama red, Acapulco gold, sensimilla and other home grown good ganga.
They probably never toked either.
I sometimes get a twinge of maybe taking a toke or two butt, I worry that it might make me want more and, I have a addictive personality.
No, I do not mean I'm a good guy.
I just mean that I might fall back into it.

Good article, dad.
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If you eat to much definitely that at some point you will get fat. If you stay to much in front of your computer and you rarely go out definitely that you will no be able to socialize . If you drink a lot of alcohol at some point you will become an alcoholic.
So with marijuana is just as with everything. As long as you are using it properly and you do not exaggerate certainly that it can't cause you harm.
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This seems an excellent way to start a discussion about weed with your young teens. I'll be making sure to have this talk before we take off for Thailand
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I would definitely read the book. In order for me to handle situations when my children ask me questions regarding weed. So that I will not get to the point where I need outdoor wireless security cameras just to know what my kids are up to when outside the house.
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Your daughters are very lucky to have a father who is as understanding as you are . Talking to them about things that really matter. This is a great post that young people could read and learn from. Nice job!

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My parents took the 'ignore it' approach to drugs, which worked out only because I had traveled to storage auctions when I was loaded. I wish they had talked about it to me openly with respect for my intelligence like this post does. Great perspective.
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The peer pressure of weed and other things is why I started my son homeschooling in California because it has gotten so rough. Good points.
I personally like your approach insofar as realizing that extreme paranoia breeds curiosity in this realm. It's also smart in distinguishing the differences between [A href="http://www.thetruthnetwork.com"]Shelley Cates [/A] various drugs and their effects. heading off the "well they lied to me about the power of marijuana so what other drugs aren't as bad as they said" line of thought.
I personally like your approach insofar as realizing that extreme paranoia breeds curiosity in this realm. It's also smart in distinguishing the differences between Shelley Cates various drugs and their effects. heading off the "well they lied to me about the power of marijuana so what other drugs aren't as bad as they said" line of thought.
Personally I think that the phrase "everything in moderation" fits in perfectly here, its the same with any other drug. The same with many things in life. I actually run a computer software shop and many people talk about the
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