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NOVEMBER 13, 2008 4:03PM

Alaska didn't elect a felon (apparently)

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It looks like Ted Stevens is going to lose his senate seat after all--by the voters, in last week's election.

They had not counted the early voting or mail-in ballots, and it appears that many Dems voted early and Democrat Mark Begich clobbered Stevens in the early rounds, offsetting the almost-tie among election day voters.

As of a few minutes ago, Democrat Mark Begich was ahead by 814, with mostly friendly districts still to come in.

More here.

So we can feel better about the voters of Alaska.

But how much better? A hair under 50% for a felon is nearly as bad as a hair over.

Either way is pitiful.

Regardless of political affiliation, how do you justify voting ror a felon. And it's not like you can make the error-unrelated-to-politics argument here. He was convicted for what amounts to bribery. That's how they want to be represented?

That explains a certain governor. It also explains the alleged claim that she's "The Most Popular Governor in America"--which is probably bogus in any sense, but is at best based on popularity among the folks who choose to live in the tundra. A vast number were born elsewhere and drawn there.

I'm sure there are a lot of great people up there. And quite a few with appalling judgment. Good repository for the latter, I guess. Let's remember to keep the door on the icebox shut.

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I just loved all the quotes on an NPR story from Alaskans dismissive of the multiple felony verdict. The fact that a judge and jury from the "lower 48" found him guilty meant nothing, people said. They don't "know" Ted Stevens like they do. It was amazing.

It made me wonder how much Alaskans feel part of this country or not.
"...how do you justify voting for a felon. "

Out on the frontier, there's evidently a large proportion of the citizenry who went there precisely because they didn't "fit in", didn't conform to social norms. Their election or re-election of a felon is just a way of thumbing their collective noses at traditional society. It's been that way on "frontiers" from time immemorial.

Think Judge Roy Bean, "The Law West of the Pecos".
"A hair under 50% for a felon is nearly as bad as a hair over."

Ain't that the truth.
"I can't believe a convicted felon won by so much over another convicted felon." Lisa Simpson, Sideshow Bob Roberts
Ted Stevens is not only a convicted felon; he's 84. So why would Alaskans vote for a crooked old fool? Because he brings home the bacon, like that infamous Bridge to Nowhere. If Begich does win, the saddest person will be Sarah Palin, who I'm sure intended to appoint herself to the post when the Senate kicked out Stevens.
Good stuff.

Incidentally, Tom, the gov does not appoint in Alaska anymore (due to her predecessor appointing his daughter). They have a special election within 90 days.

But she may well have been planning to run.
There are felons...and there are felons.

I can see someone voting for a felon--like and arsonist, burgler, or murderer...

...but what I cannot see is voting for a felon whose felony was stealing the public's money and abusing his office.

Voting for that kind of guy ought to be a felony in itself...and probably is. It sure as hell seems like abetting a felony!
Dave, there are 814 people in Alaska? Wow, population explosion!

All kidding aside, that's great news. Now "Seeerah" can go home and "Govern" like a MF'er!

70% and holding. Miss Popularity can go back to Miss Oblivion.
Get your Moose coat out Sarah, Anchorage is colder than D.C..
What if a lot of those people aren't watching TV and didn't know (or didn't believe) the conviction? Perhaps they just voted by party.
Yes Dor, 84, and an OLD 84 at that. His liver probably looks like a burnt flank steak.
Yeah, finishing your term at the age of 90 . . . I appreciate a hard worker, but there's a point.
I hope this holds, because at least it puts an end to one way Palin can cling to the national stage. She's stuck like a moth to the klieg lights, though. The national media will have to turn them off and let her fly home.
I had heard if Stevens won, there was a good chance the legislature could expel him. Why are felons able to serve? Seems like those who lose the right to vote should forfeit that right all the way to the top.
If Stevens wins, he will be expelled.

Look, Mitch McConnell, who would LOVE to hang on to as many republican seats as he can, said no felon is serving in the Senate. Harry Reid said Stevens will not serve.

The problem with Stevens is that he has managed to piss a lot of people off, regardless of their party affiliation. They can't stand him and this gives them an excuse to toss him out on his ass and say it's for the good of the country.

Would they be that petty? Sure. But they've got the perfect rationalization for their vindictive behavior. Stevens is a convicted felon. It makes it real easy for them.

All they have to do is say we don't want a convicted felon to serve in the Senate, and not say "and I can't stand the son of a bitch anyway" but think it, and they're off the hook.
And what really galls me is that some of those people voting for Ted Stevens are conservatives who claim that liberals are "immoral."
Calm down, good people. Consider the contemptible sorts Georgia and Kentucky and Kansas - just for starters - have elected to the Senate.

And what none of you has mentioned, because none of you knows squat about Alaska, is that his opponent Begich is a Republican in all but party affiliation. It would not surprise me if a substantial number of people voted for Stevens so when he got expelled there would be a do-over (as required by state law within 90 days) and someone more palatable would be available.
Great post Dave and I agree with Kent. Blind voting along party lines with no regard to educating oneself. It's appalling.
A lot of people here are expressing surprise that the electorate would nearly elect / not-elect a convicted felon, specifically Ted Stevens... has anybody considered that the people may just _expect_ their representatives to be felons / crooks / tainted / scandalous these days and not give it any additional thought? Could be that someone honest might get _more_ scrutiny than usual because he (or she) _is_ honest and therefore unexpected...???
I'm not surprised at all. A few years ago I was baffled when some alderman in Chicago was arrested, convicted and served time and was fighting for his job after his release. Go figure.
Oh, boy, here we go again. Begich isn't good enough for some people here.

Listen, we're talking about Alaska here. Know what one of the things Rahm Emanuel was smart about?

Instead of running Dennis Kucinich in North Carolina, he ran Heath Shuler. And instead of trying to run a John Kerry in Alaska, you run a Begich. You ain't getting a Kerry or Kucinich elected in Alaska, so you take what you can get.