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An expanded paperback edition of my book COLUMBINE came out March 1, 2010. Links to the book and my bio below: http://www.davecullen.com/columbine.htm

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FEBRUARY 11, 2010 2:10PM

Survivor gone wrong

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I love Survivor from the start. But after seven seasons, just as it was wearing thin, producer Mark Burnett made his first huge blunder: Survivor All Stars

Awful. It was quickly apparent how surprisingly uninteresting the contestants were. They appear so interesting on the show, because the situation is so interesting. It forces them into really tight situations, and reveals a great deal about them, about us. The situation is manufactured, the responses are not.

Plus, the producers cast well. They gather an eclectic mix of people, most of whom are expressive and many of whom have something worthy to express. It's fascinating to watch them evolve for awhile. For about 13 weeks.

Damn. Mark Burnett has great instincts most of the time, and one of his best was gauging that right from the start. Thirteen weeks is right about the limit that he can keep these people interesting, no matter what he inflicts them with.

They are more or less ordinary people--loud in personality, but not particularly deep. None of them were rocket scientists (for real) or artists or thinkers. There was a reason none of them were famous. They were great to watch for a season, and then . . . I hope their friends enjoy them.

All Stars didn't lose steam halfway through the seaons, it opened dull and flatlined all the way to the end. It was shocking how bland that first episode was. Within twenty minutes it was obvious there was not one damn thing we were going to learn about these people.

CBS had tried Survivor reruns and Survivor DVDs and they had failed miserably. This was worse.

It survived in the ratings that year, but lost a lot of momentum. If ever there were a shark-jump, this felt like it.

To my great surprise and delight, though, the producers must have done some brainstorming, because they started adding new elements which finally broke the alliance system--or shot it up enough that it was no longer predictable--and made it interesting again.

In bone-headed move #2, they repeated half the blunder in season 16 with the dismal Fans vs. Favorites. At least half the contenstants were new. Not nearly enough.

And tonight, just after just three regular casts, we get what promises to be The Worst Survivor Ever. Rerun season #3. Many of them are actually returning for the third time. What?

Add to that the supposed Heros/Villians theme. Apparently Villain = annoying dick, and Hero = a) hottie with a heart or b) annoying smug asshole. (With exceptions. Cirie, for example, was an authentically likable person, who wasn't trying to be.) Survivor-Cirie

I know a lot of people watch the series for the villains, and they do add drama, but the age faster than bad sushi. Their value lies merely in the effect they have on others, and I can't wait to see them voted off fast enough--so I don't have to see them again.  Second sight of them is a particular mistake.

Boston Rob, one of the dullest, one-note villains the first time has bored us through two seasons of Survivor one of The Amazing Race, and a two-hour CBS "special" on his marraige to the lethargic Amber.

Even the so-called favorites are typically over-rated and way over-exposed the first time. Rupert, for instance. Blech. I didn't buy your pirate shtick the first time, buddy.

Then there are a few hapless fools the producers just didn't  seem to know what to do with.  Tyson was hardly a villain, but what were they going to do, created a Dorks team?

He seemed like an incredibly repressed guy without identifiable personality trying desperately to prove how wild and crazy he was by pulling his pants down. Ok dude, we get it. You wish you were the life of the party. Now you're a naked boring guy. And really annoying, and full of yourself.

The only intesting part about Tyson was to watch how jealous Brendan made him--Brendan actually having the charm and wit he desired. It was like watching Gollum covet his precious. It was a perfect contrast, because the same season, Coach was equally envious, but blatantly open about it, while Tyson laughably try to hide his.

So. Why is Mar Burnett they trying to kill his show?

How bad can it get? Worse than I can picture right now, I'm betting.

I might have to watch this season just to make fun of it, though it's a lot more interesting when the show is actually interesting.

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Plus, you got to wonder how it's going to compare to that recent ultra reality show Survivor: Haiti. Even if it didn't seem incredibly inappropriate to follow the manufactured suffering of a bunch of pseudo celebrities, right after the biggest disaster in world history.....Jeff Probst should be down there trying to find out what really happened on that team of Baptist alleged kidnappers. They're out of jail today and itching to talk about their crazy ex CEO leader. The timing is really off on this one.
I hope you'll do the weekly Survivor post re-cap. I too wonder if this will be a total flop or interesting. Cirie likeable? Maybe to men. Not to most women.
that's interesting about Cirie. why did women not like her?

i adored her.
I liked Cirie too! Shamefully, we'll be watching this. I don't know why, because it doesn't even sound like good TV. I hope we're both wrong. (But I doubt it.)
i know, bellwether. i think i should just delete it from the tivo list this season. but i'm curious.

i finally just let go of The Amazing Race. i love the format of the show, but it's all stunt-casting, and all jerks. too many seasons where i barely liked a single person. i finally pulled the plug.

it's a shame the casting department ruins that show. it's such a contrast to Survivor's casting: where they go for a mix. one or two assholes per season is plenty.
Sad to see you have so little expectations for this season Dave, I think it might just be great
Survivor is always a crapshoot - you never know when it turn out to be good. We'll see - but at least I'll have gypsyboot's blog to amuse me if it turns into a trainwreck.
I love Cirie too! She gives off a feeling she'd made a great friend. I secretly wish she were my mother. Something so warm, genuine and original about her. And with cameras in her face. I don't get TV and only got introduced to Survivor by looking it up on some Asian web site that had it and then got rather hooked. No commercials and no waiting. Instant Survivor gratification!

And I get instant Dave Cullen gratification. You wrote an article about Survivor that captured and kept my curiosity and why people are and are not attracted to it. God job, Dave. I had been looking forward to seeing this online -- except for the bile I get in my stomach every time I see Russell -- and now am grateful you prepared me for some possible instant disappointment.

You probably don't want to have to trudge the road of TV wrap ups, like my sisters Mary with American Idol and Cathy with The Bitchelor. But would love to read your thoughts about the Premier at least? Maybe? Rated!
I think the problem is that you've simply watched too much of it. I think the last season I watched was season 2, so all these people are new to me. Don't know if it will be interesting--don't know that I find puzzle-making challenges in the middle of the jungle a real test of human survival, but I may tune in to find out.

Same thing with the Amazing Race. I always let a few seasons go by before watching again, so I don't get bored of the formula, and so my expectations have time to recalibrate.

Who wants to make the commitment to a 13 episode game over and over and over again? The show is the same, probably no better or worse. You're just bored of it. Can't blame you.

Take a break!
reluctant muse, i watch it every season and only get bored by the rerun seasons where they bring the same old contestants back.

(of course it's not an issue if you didn't watch them the first time. a sitcom rerun is also fine if it's the first time through for you.)
bonnie, thanks, but i get much more of russell than i want on the show.

i literally think he's a psychopath. i was grateful that the jury last season did the right thing. all i want to see out of him is gone.
I was hoping it might surprise me, but we've been down this all-star road twice before. Just as bad this time. Here's my wrap-up post:

http://open.salon.com/blog/dave_cullen/2010/02/11/survivor_as_dull_as_expected
Thanks, Dave, for the comentary, most of which I definitely agree with. I am so, so tired of the same old faces--three times is twice too many for these people. But last night's episode surprised me in one way--I actually liked Boston Rob. I couldn't stand the guy in his original season or his "all-star" season, and especially his appearnace with "Ambaw" on Amazing Race. But last night, to me, he seemed the sanest and calmest and most mature of any of the execrable band called "Villains." Maybe the guy has grown up? We'll see.

I did follow the link Bonnie provided for her interview with Russell, hoping I would find there some reason to like the man. But it was just one more of his unending interviews balanced between whines and brags. This is a mean, nasty pompous and self-decived man who has nothing of value to offer. Probst's public siding of him and dismissive contempt of the winner has caused me to change my view of Jeff for good.

I've not missed a single season of Survivor and plan to watch this one. But I fear the rotten ones will survive and the more pleasant ones--like Cirie and Colby and JT--will be wiped away. To Probst's delight, I'm sure.
thanks, doc.

nice to hear i'm not alone.

i had a similar reaction to rob. kind of faint praise, though, right? less of a trip than those around him. i just never found him all that interesting.

(though oddly, i liked him a lot more on The Amazing Race. i thought he was OK, just over-exposed, to me.)
I'm an on again/off again watcher of Survivor and I think that's the biggest problem for me with their All Stars thing. I don't know who half the people are but they present it to me (the audience) like I do.

I agree, it was an interesting concept at first, but after 20 seasons the bit gets old, ya know.
First off, nice use of the "shark jump" reference. In my opinion people don't use that phrase nearly enough. That aside, I agree with you wholly. As a long time Survivor fan, I felt like Survivor All-Stars was a bit of a stretch. And much like the first person to comment on this post, I believe the timing was in a bit of bad taste. I know there is always a disaster somewhere, so we can't always base our decisions off of that. I just hope that the producers at least thought about it for a second. As for me, I am sad to see it go out in such a way, but I am glad to be moving on to something that has not already overstayed it's welcome.