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An expanded paperback edition of my book COLUMBINE came out March 1, 2010. Links to the book and my bio below: http://www.davecullen.com/columbine.htm

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DECEMBER 19, 2010 2:25PM

Gay jubilation on DADT, straight 'approving shrug'—Perfect

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Yesterday I was ecstatic. And busy. My tivo can only record two networks at once, so it was tricky to bop between three networks as the two big Senate votes went down on burying the despicable Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

I wanted to watch the full vote on CSPAN-2, catch the mainstream reaction on CNN, and monitor anti-gay spin on FoxNews.

One of the best developments of the day, and a real bellwether: the last one did not happen. Fox broke into a Glen Beck rerun, and pre-empted it for half an hour with live coverage that leaned toward a positive take on the news.

That illustrates just how far the country has come. The gap between reactions of gays and straights told the rest of the story:

I called a closeted gay army Lt. Colonel I've been following for ten years. He said he was "elated." The exuberance in his voice  echoed it.

I talked a friend in Denver last night, who had gathered a group at his house for a little pre-party before heading to the gay danceclub. They had popped a bottle of champagne to celebrate. Not a single person there knew anyone in the military. It had no discernible effect on the daily life of anyone there, he said. And yet it felt huge.

It was. Congress took a huge step, probably its biggest yet in the struggle for gay equality. It had never shown the courage to do anything like this before. And to my shock and delight, eight Republican senators—led by the women in the caucus—crossed over to join all but one of the Democrats. (Thank you, all 65 of you.)

In Politico, John Gerstein quoted David Frum, a speechwiter for former President George W. Bush:

“The military is the most trusted institution in American life,” he said.  “This vote means there will now be a large public population of openly gay veterans, gay combat veterans and decorated gay soldiers and officers, sailors, airmen and marines. That presence is going to be a very large fact on the ground. . . . People who want to wage cultural wars ought to keep in mind that cultural views often don’t move at all for a very long time, but when they move, they can move very fast.” 

How fast? On the straightside, the public was so far ahead of the Senate, Gerstein astutely described an "approving shrug."

Perfect. An unemotional reaction from most of our straight friends is not just OK, it is the biggest cause for celebration of all. They quit caring about the gay thing.

That's not universally true, of course. A sizable minority of the public still feels nausea at the mention of a gayboy. And they are a lifetime away from using that sort of loose gay lingo. But their kids are fine with it. So are more and more of their friends.

The majority has gotten over it. Polls show nearly 80 percent of Americans supported an end to the ban. A huge majority, and growing. More and more of those are scratching their heads over what's taking so long.

Of course gayguys and lesbians should be treated like anybody else. More and more straight people are ready to be done with this struggle.

That's the best thing that's ever happened to us.

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* Photo from NY Times: giddy Senators who led the fight. (Big thanks to all of you.)

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24 hours later, I'm still glowing.
I'm happy too! I feel it is a giant step forward for this country finally.
It's about damn time. I understand the significance of the collective shrug, but me personally, I let out a big WOO ha! We just cannot afford to let up on social justice issues (and this was, among other things). Great write. Great day for us all.
thanks for the woohoos.

it was way overdue, but we're getting there.
We had tickets for the Denver Gay Men's Choir on Saturday night. The director acknowledged the events of the day, told us we could go ahead and ask and then the choir sang SOOOOO well. I'm so happy for all my gay friends. It's about time. Gay marriage is next.
that's pretty cool, trish.

on to marriage.
My wife (ex-Marine) can't get over it. We both think this will provide extra momentum to gay rights initiatives in the civilian world.

And how cool is it that the largest employer in the U.S. can no longer discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation?
I know, Lawless, I didn't realize that "largest employer" bit until this weekend. That's a big deal.

And I think it will help so many ways.

I didn't realize your wife was a Marine. Very cool.
It's fairly interesting.
Lawless Lawyer brings up a really important point. If the military (which is, indeed, an employer) can no longer discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation, what justification can there possibly be for not including sexual orientation as a protected class under federal anti-discrimination law?
Interesting point, Jeanette. It also gives a big boost to HR people in companies around the country trying to make the change.
I am so happy that DADT is part of our history, a sad part. Boo to the Clinton administration for selling out gays and lesbians in the 1990s. Excellent writing.
I am so happy that DADT is part of our history, a sad part. Boo to the Clinton administration for selling out gays and lesbians in the 1990s. Excellent writing.
Thanks, Lucy.

Nice to see people finding this post.

HRC just sent a list of how every senator voted, here:

http://www.hrcactioncenter.org/site/PageNavigator/repeal_dadt
It is funny how quietly it all came to pass in the end. Funny how that happens when no election is coming soon. I'm truly surprised and relieved that this is finally a reality.
Bravo! And yes yawn.>r
To put it another way, the opposition went out with a whimper. And you're right, if Fox News couldn't even get worked up about it, we have come quite a way.
Great blog, Dave. As a Navy vet who has been gay longer than most people have been alive, I know it is difficult if not impossible to fully appreciate the euphoria of knowing that we fought, and that we won.

As I've said, two years from now, if anyone even remembers there was a DADT, they will, as you say, simply shrug and wonder what all the fuss was about.
I'm straight and a former Marine, and I am very excited about it. I think it may not be appreciated by the general society for years to come. Having been born in 1963, this gives me a window on how Americans view social justice achievements as they are happening.
This was huge and too long in coming! For me, it was like it shouldn't have ever happened. And, yes, yawn.
I missed the news, and am now actually crying...........

Finally.
George Chauncey has a really insightful NYT op-ed about it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/21/opinion/21chauncey.html?_r=1&hp

(He's the author of "Gay New York" and REALLY knows gay history.)
I tend to agree Bill. The impact on the straight world will ripple out for years to come.