Dave Niose

Dave Niose
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Attorney; President of the American Humanist Association, the USA's oldest and largest humanist organization.

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DECEMBER 5, 2009 11:32AM

Bill O'Reilly on atheist advertising

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As president of the American Humanist Association, I am SO jealous of Bill O’Reilly.  Because I am a secular humanist, I am unable to experience the true meaning of the holiday season, unable to share the Christmas spirit with O’Reilly and the vast majority of Americans.

O’Reilly recently explained my shortcomings by pointing out that my organization is running advertisements during this holiday season only because we are “jealous” of believers.  With ads that say, “No God? No Problem!” the AHA is “denigrating” Christmas, O’Reilly says.  We do this, he explains, in an attempt to ruin the holiday, because for us Christmas is “just a day off.”

It’s difficult to debate O’Reilly on this subject, because he comes to the issue with such authority and credibility, as such an excellent example of Christian values in action.  When one thinks of peace, goodwill toward others, and the gentle demeanor of one who embraces the teachings of Jesus, the image of O’Reilly instantly comes to mind.  How can an infidel such as myself possibly deflect his allegations?

Knowing that O’Reilly speaks with such moral authority, I take his statements seriously, and therefore I must honestly consider whether the AHA is indeed being “disingenuous,” as O’Reilly alleges, when we claim that our ads are not an attack on Christianity or believers.  Having done so, I must conclude that O’Reilly, despite his unimpeachable stature as an exemplary Christian and moral voice of America, has in this case erred in his analysis.

There can be no doubt that Christmas is a religious holiday, but the flaw in O’Reilly’s thinking is his apparent assumption that the holiday season is ONLY about religion.   What O’Reilly doesn’t realize is that, as he is mingling at holiday parties over the next month, he will be mingling among many atheists, agnostics, and secular humanists who are sharing the joy of the holiday season with him.   Peace on earth and goodwill toward men might be notions that are consistent with Christianity, but they are also entirely consistent with humanist values, with the values of millions upon millions of atheists, agnostics, and humanists who celebrate the holiday season each year.

Nobody is saying that the holiday season is not about religion, but believers should realize that the holidays are also about secular values.  Nonbelievers disagree with believers about supernatural and theological claims, but when it comes to most of the ethical ideals of the holidays we are all aboard the same ship.  If believers actually think that nonbelievers are incapable of embracing the ideas of peace and goodwill, then they need an education.  Indeed, if religious Americans actually think secular Americans can’t appreciate the holiday spirit, we need more atheist advertising, not less.

In fact, most atheists and humanists I know wish this time of year reflected more of the underlying spirit of the holidays, not less.   The irony of America embarking on an orgy of consumption and commercialization, in the name of a humble Nazarene who preached against materialism, should not go unnoticed.  If anything is stealing the true meaning of O’Reilly’s Christmas, if anything is denigrating his holy day, it is the commercial culture in which he himself thrives. 

O’Reilly no doubt begrudgingly circulates in America’s commercial culture only because he has little choice, because he feels that, by acquiring great wealth and experiencing the misfortune of attaining celebrity status, he can best promote the deep Christian values that are so obviously at the core of his true persona.  This is simply more evidence of his incredible selflessness, and we can only admire him for his sacrifice.

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My eyes have been opened by Bill O'Reilly. I will now go out on the balcony and burn my Christmas tree (or Yule tree, as it is called in the offensively pagan Norwegian language). I expect I will spend December 24 in the dark, reading a good book. Clearly, this midwinter festival of lights can have no meaning to a godless freak like me.

What was I thinking?
O'Reilly is a jerkoff...and I fervently hope someone calls this well-written piece to his attention, Dave.
Thanks for saying this. I hope it makes its way back to Mr. O'Reilly, which it very well may, because it has his name on it and that's the only thing he reads. Happy Holidays.
Billy can polish my aluminum pole.
I've been called many things by O'Reilly - a socialist, borderline communist and Un-American - now I have to throw out my freaking wreath? Man! It took me two hours just to make it. My fault, I should have consulted His Moral Highness on it before I started.

Seems like all these holier than thou Christians could stand to actually practice what they preach, no?

Peace and goodwill indeed.
Am I missing something? Isn't ALL advertising, at it's core, atheist advertising? Well, except for the commercials for churches, it seems to me that, unless you specifically mention Jesus or God in your advertising, then it would be classified as "atheist advertising", and that to me is most, if not all advertising.
If I may mention my post on more-or-less the subject: http://open.salon.com/blog/myriad/2009/12/02/felix_saturnalia_and_pax_on_yall

Very nice piece of snark here, Dave.

And Christmas seems to have pretty well returned to its Saturnalian roots, with some Northern tree-worship and celebration of the returning of the sun. Things we can all get behind. (I suggest Christians celebrate quietly on some date - I believe it's in the spring, lambing time and all - which is more likely to be Jesus' birthday...if Jesus actually ever lived...and leave the rest of us in peace & goodwill. )
More and more people are rebelling against the negative attacks on non-Christians by Bill O'Reilly. His hateful "war against Christmas" diatribe amounts to a "war against people getting along with each other".
thank you thank you thank you
Be careful with sarcasm. These folks have no sense of humor. O'Reilly will thank you and move on. Rated.
I can't speak for other secular humanists but, not once in my experience has my non-belief or lack of superstition and mysticism motivated me to strap on bombs, fly planes into tall buildings or otherwise deny liberty to others in their private choices. I happen to experience peace and goodwill toward my fellow human beings and toward other forms of life on Earth more or less 365 days a year. I don't actually need a special day to express such a viewpoint or lifestyle because I express it - as best I'm able - every moment. Of course, if there is any time when I feel somewhat unpeaceful or lacking in genuine goodwill toward some others it would be on those days when those who are chronically superstitious become somewhat self-righteous. Christmas Day could perhaps be one of those occasions.
Maybe we need a NEW day, a "war against hatred" day, meant to draw attention to the problem of the Bill O'Reillys of the world, and to promote peace and harmony by reducing hatred and intolerance.
There's one problem with your post. There's no such thing as "secular values". At least according to the likes of O'Reilly. It ain't a value unless it's a conservative Christian value. If you're an atheist, like me, you're a selfish bastard who's only out for what you can take take take from everyone else, and you don't give a damn about anyone else's plight. You probably kill kittens and puppies for fun and profit.
Rated.