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JUNE 21, 2010 11:04AM

I Used To Be Nice

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I used to be nice. Really. In fact at U.C. Santa Cruz when I worked at the college newspaper, my editor voted me nicest person on the staff. My paternal aunt warned me that my niceness was not a virtue and someday I would regret it. [She went on to marry her first cousin so her advice is a bit suspect.] I was a girl scout who, though not cheerful per se, was nice. My father was/is really nice. My first husband was nice.

And then life got to me. I've become jaded, cynical, wary, bored, perceptive. I'm more suspicious, dubious, daring, leery and just downright cranky a lot of the time. What changed me? College, boyfriends, family. Becoming a mother, working in corporate America, survival. Money, things, teachers, illnesses, suicides and the surprising consistency of people to just f*** you over for the sake of it. It'll do things to you. Bad things.

So as I reinvent myself in the Rocky Mountains where air is at a premium and everyone fights for water I have to re-evaluate my niceness to suspicion ratio. I'm going to need new girlfriends. I plan to meet them through: yoga classes, church?, through my new company when I get it up and running and through gardening. Any hobby or passion I pursue I will look for friends along the way who share at least that interest with me. I have two old friends who live hours away from me in Colorado. I have future O.S. friends I haven't met yet but who live here in CO and we will meet. 

Women are supposed to be nice. Mothers are supposed to be extra nice. So it is not without some guilt that I regret my niceness has faded away like  a piece of wallpaper constantly exposed to sunlight. I'm a reader, a writer. Now I'm a homesteader: niceness can get you killed when you're living within a rifle's shot of your nearest crazy neighbor. Survival instincts, my friend. It's all about survival instincts, which apparently I don't have much of as I'm drinking well water that didn't pass inspection. Ah well, let that be a story the local E.R. doctors get to tell.

Perhaps niceness is overrated. I've developed other traits to compensate for my growing lack of that one. I listen well. I'm interested in others. I maintain long friendships. I'll take care of you if you're sick.

But I'll also leave without saying goodbye, like some kid with a bandana-tied stick over his back.  And that's the part that drives the meanies wild: why won't I just stay and take it? 

Cuz I have an overdeveloped sense of self-esteem I picked up somewhere along the way. And ethics. So whatever baby, I've dropped out and am tuning in. I've got a good 20 years still in me and it's not going to be about being nice. It's going to be about things so much bigger than that. I promise.

In the meantime life imitates art [which imitated life.] I'm living like Sally Field in Murphy's Romance, like Jessica Lange in Country, like Sissy Spacek in The River. I'm a hard-headed woman, perhaps they were nicer than me.

 

 

 

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Think of it as embracing your inner Bostonian. You went out West and went all soft in the kindly climate of California, Hawaii, Colorado, but inside was lurking this flinty, cynical Yankee, your (metaphorical) boots filled with the icy slush of a New England winter thaw. Same thing happened to me. My advice: roll with it!
Niceness IS overrated. It's possible to be a very powerful source of good while being honest and well armored. Did you work on City on a Hill at UCSC? Porter College cured me of nice as well, if I had any left. Good luck in your new place. You're going to kick ass. r
Niceness is overrated.
I look nice, I have a nice smile, I do nice things but Im not nice. Im mean inside. sigh.......
Maybe it's not that your are loosing your nice so much as you are getting your tough on. You have to be a strong woman to go through all you are going through. Hang in there! R
my favorite part is this:

"But I'll also leave without saying goodbye, like some kid with a bandana-tied stick over his back. And that's the part that drives the meanies wild: why won't I just stay and take it? "

this reminds me of what carla brunei once said...that she was faithful to herself...

what you are saying is that although you are kind to others you are also at a basic level kind to yourself.

this matters. In my experience, it makes you safer to be around than those who "take" the mean stuff and swallow and keep on swallowing....telling themselves its all fine....
I think historically, calling someone nice was more of an insult. It was definitely not a personal aspiration. It more or less denoted soft in the head. Which is what lots of pot and sunny good times gets people as well. You're probably just revving up the inner cynic and feeling the surge of its old power surging through again. Polite, kind at times, friendly works. Just not so nice.
i sometimes feel that being nice is overrated. i was always nice and people took advantage of that. i'm a lot like you. if i see that i can trust you, i'll be nice and the most loyal friend you ever had. but don't mess with me 'cause i'll walk away. you just need to be you.
Too often, nice means doormat...
I believe "nice" in the form of basic decency, is the grease that makes society run well, and you can't fool me yankee commenter, y'all are nice too....
Society isn't running so well, manners are missing, but "Nice" as Doormat? Good riddance.

Seen on popular bumper sticker: "Well behaved women rarely make history."
making "niceness" a gender privilege issue just changes it from a virtue to an attitude.
"He's so nice with the servants"
"This is one servant who isn't going to be nice anymore"
Deborah, I used to be nice too. Life has a way of educating us doesn't it?
I'm happy to see I have such a highly-regarded people who are also not nice, but everything else! This is one club I'm glad will have me as a member.
Glad you have hopped on the train. Of course, "not being nice" doesn't need to include "being rude." I didn't really hop on the train until menopause, but there is still much time, and much to say :)

r~
I was just thinking about how much less nice I've become, mostly due to being surrounded by fake-nice all damn day! Glad to know I'm not alone. Breathe that premium air - you've earned it!
Fortunately you have a different set of followers here that disagree with Stellaa. I've been schooled by the same set of whip cracking lessons you described with such straight arrow accuracy. I also feel 'nice' isn't something to aspire to and I would consider any reference anyone made about me being nice would be because they don't know me and don't care to. I am 'polite' as the occasion requires. I aspire to be committed, discerning, honorable, spirited, thirsty, all-in, or all-out, but not 'nice'. It's an inconsequential place to operate from, for me anyway. Have you told off anyone yet? (Devil Dog looks like he's going to provide an opportunity for ya!)
I am nice.
It took me a long time to get to this place. I used to be not so nice.
I still don't take crap from people. But I am nice._r
"I listen well. I'm interested in others. I maintain long friendships. I'll take care of you if you're sick." is my definition of NICE. Sticking around when you are bored or offended isn't "being nice." They'll have more fun without you and you'll have more fun without them. It's win-win, and win-win is the epitome of nice.
If you used to put up with things that you felt were wrong, your inner NICE knew you were lying. From your description, your inner nice has become stronger than ever.
There are "manners" and then there is being nice. Manners are something you owe almost everyone -- simple courtesies and polite gestures, giving everyone the benefit of the doubt until you are presented with proof that they aren't deserving of polite treatment --being nice, well, I don't think I'm "nice" either, because I have no trouble turning away from people who are selfish or obnoxious. I think that ability to embrace a discerning kind of niceness is a benefit of age!
One problem with being "nice" is the large percentage of people who will take advantage of your niceness for their gain and your loss. Also, many people perceive "nice" as weak.
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This might say it best. It's a quote from Jill Tweedie in a column “Nice Girls Finish Last,” from the Guardian (January 1970) on why women's liberation was appealing. “I cannot personally think of any widespread injustice that has been remedied by plodding worthily down the middle of the road, smiling and smiling.”
In modern vernacular, "nice" has become a generic word; it has lost its depth and texture. The concept of being a nice human being, on the other hand, is still as good as ever - regardless of how the word is defined. R
Niceness is overrated. Look what it got me -- nothing. And then people say they don't trust me because I'm nice. Well, not me in particular. I used to be nice. But nice is about as useful to me as an outhouse is to a robot. (I don't know what the hell that's even supposed to mean.)

Nice is what they say when they can't think of anything good to say about you.
Define nice: I am older than most here and I smile, am polite except when a rage for reason takes me with it, I care deeply about those I love, I never consciously have stolen or hurt anyone. Of course but since no one defined nice I'll say that I have that written on my dance card: Be Nice. And it has only helped me,.. one lone dissenting voice.