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FEBRUARY 28, 2011 8:57AM

Lethologica

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I can't remember my words anymore.

I am hoping this is temporary. I can't remember when it started. Maybe a year ago, two years? I'm not sure. I just know I live like Porky Pig in my head half the time: "That's unbelie... that's unbelie...argghh....that's just crazy!"

I ask questions like people with dementia ask. "What's that phrase for getting your fish hooked?" Answer: Set the hook. I still can't remember that and had to ask someone again. Where's that place I went to in California once for a week? It starts with a B? Answer: Balboa Island.

I can't bring up the word escalate so I use the word accelerate, which is not what I mean.  Whenever I want to say extraction, my mind substitutes imperfection. Every time. I repeat things like telling my husband we have to leave the leftover fresh fish for our neighbor when we leave.

"You've told me that 3 times already," he tells me. I have?! What's wrong with me?

I've been wondering: do I have early onset dementia? Or is my brain frozen from email/faxing/writing/working/husband with M.S./menopause/stress?

Do I have a brain tumor from using my cellphone? It feels like a brain tumor.

Or do I have lethologica

Memory 

Lethologica, I've discovered,  is a psychological disorder that inhibits an individual's ability to articulate his or her thoughts by temporarily forgetting key words, phrases or names in conversation.

Some background. Lethologica was first identified as a serious, debilitating disorder by Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung in 1913. Detailed studies of the disorder were first carried out by American psychiatrists in the 1950's. Current research identifies the ailment as extremely prevalent but also highly variable in its severity of manifestation. According to the American Psychiatric Association, "9 out of 10 Westerners will suffer some form of Lethologica during their lifetimes." 9 out of 10?!

Well I guess that rules out that our new technology is causing it.  

I have a friend in Honolulu who had such a severe case of memory loss several years ago, she assumed it was early onset dementia. She set up a lunch with me as an informal goodbye. She figured her brain was leaving her and she was about to enter that gray land of dementia and probably wouldn't recognize me in a year or two.  She was going to follow up with Doctors. I need to give her a call and find out what they discovered, if anything. 

I thought I was an isolated incident. But I work in the Healthcare field and read Emergency room chart notes daily. And I've started seeing patients coming into the E.R. complaining of not being able to find their words. They are concerned they have had a stroke or some other neurological disorder. The doctors invariably find nothing wrong with them, give them some ativan and send them home.  

My sister repeats her stories 2 or 3 times when she is telling one. My father hasn't had the best memory for the last decade. But he's 73. Is this genetic? I don't know.  

According to Wikipedia, Lethologica can be classified as a lifestyle disease which is also affected by individual personality traits. These factors have been shown to affect the temporal lobe which in turn causes the sporadic functioning of episodic and semantic memory capacities. Lethologica afflicts in a manner almost opposite to that of other memory disorders such as Alzheimer's disease or other forms of dementia in that strenuous mental exercise can precipitate an onset of memory loss.  

Recent studies demonstrating a close relationship between lethologica and disordered pharyngeal phase of swallowing have made some neurologists postulate that the disease [disease?] may well affect the X and/or XII cranial nerves, in addition to the temporal lobe.

Unfortunately, no effective treatments for the disorder exists. 

I'll go to my doctor and see if I can't find a reason for this. But I'm thinking I might just be on my own with this one. And my brain might need a significant break to re-boot itself. How do you put your brain on vacation?  

 

 

 

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Dang! I had to read this five times!
I hope I do not have this because I do the same thign as you do.
rated with hugs
Rebootin the brain can be dangerous! :) Consult the user manual before attempting.

What do you mean you don't have a user manual? Damn....

:D

Rated.
Ah, yes, we have seen that among our friends and family. Hope it's just a few hot flashes in the language dept. Good luck.
It is scary to feel as if you are going down the road of early onset dementia and all the images that conjures up. Plus, we only have room for one neurological illness in our family...
This happens to me, but only once in a while. It is most disconcerting, but at 66, my doctor tells me it is quite normal. My memory has always been annoyingly good (to others) so I tend to freak out when it happens. I've learned to just relax and do something else. My memory returns almost instantly if I do.
Good luck with that.

Lezlie
Deborah, I had to put down the cookie dough I was mixing to answer. I seriously forget to go back to people's posts sometimes or else I think I've already commented.
I find myself forgetful in small ways as do most of my friends in their late 40's early 50's. My husband tends to ask my daughter and me the same things on a daily basis. Some of it is worrisome. But I also know that unfortunately so much of it is normal.
My friend's husband is 53. He was just diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's and believe me, his symptoms are much, much different.
Of course you should see your doctor, but chances are, it's what we are all experiencing at this age. ~r
Thank you Joan, that is reassuring. And I will certainly let people know if the Dr. is actually able to diagnose anything. Did we all really peak out at 35?! Memory-wise that is.
Sometimes I cannot recall words as I used to and get frustrated - especially when I write. And I write to exercise my brain, so it becomes a catch 22. Lethologia, "strenuous mental exercise whiv may precipitate an onset of memory loss" explains it somewhat. Thank you Deborah for this piece. Please keep us posted .
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Deb, I knowww! You have been through some major changes in the last couple of years, as have I...the brain gives itself its own vacation...don't need that word! Oh, just repeat the same thing a few times, so I don't have to come up with anything new, puleeese! Our brains are simply exhausted and need to lie down on the fainting couch! Very dramatic little chubs of grey matter they are...but this article proves you are doing just great! xox
You've had a busy and somewhat stressful couple of years. Crank up the vitamins B and D, get yourself more sleep and yes, see the doctor.
You may also want to check into natural bio-identical hormone replacement. Many docs are prescrbing now, over the former HRT treatments that were chemicals. I am no expert so I would urge you to discuss with a trusted doctor or someone who is knowledgable in this area. Women lose so much estrogen, progesterone and testosterone after 45. Peri-menopause and menopause have similar symptoms as you have described above and is often due to loss of nature hormones in our body and brain. Another culprit is cholesterol which can become plaque in the brain, leading to ALZ. My mom developed ALZ and also had very high cholesterol. I was experiencing what you describe and sought out a renowned doctor of NBHRT and began taking supplements at age 55. Was a near overnight improvement and has been ever since. But, as this is a highly charged subject and very personal, I urge you to discuss with a doctor who is administering the natural form of HRT and get the pros and cons to see what may or may not work for you. It is not a one size fits all pill and varies by individual. Best of luck!
This is happening to every woman I know in the 45+ age range. Unless it is so severe as to impair ability to function, I personally don't think it's a big deal. I notice that when I am stressed and exhausted -- which is all the time lately -- my forgetfulness worsens. The good news is that the words always come back.
I must have it too...my large vocabulary can't seem to roll off of my tongue anymore...
My best friend and I have an "inside term" for what you're describing- we call it a "pineapple moment." After she completed chemo therapy several years back now (we hadn't hit 40 yet, but can't remember the exact age), she was unable to recall the word "pineapple," as she stood with one in her hands, trying to describe it to someone. So frustrating to know you know, but can't quite get to it. My family teases me that I have "some-timers" disease.

"Lethologica"- new vocaulary word for me! :) *R*
It's starting to happen to some of my friends. And my husband, who had a photographic memory, can't recall everything like he did once. I hope that what's going on with you is just normal, keep us posted. It's got to be frustrating - especially for a writer/ blogger -to not be able to accecss that giant mental thesaurus !
I think you've described me perfectly -- just in the past few months every time I write something, I have to click on the thesaurus -- but that's not much help when you can't think of the KIND of word you want to use -- thesauri aren't very good at abstractions. Thank you for giving this a name -- which I've already forgotten.
I have the same problem. Strangely, there are some words that seem particularly stubborn, "empirical", for instance. I used to literally spend 30 minutes (off and on), or longer, trying to recall the word. I'd sit there thinking trying to think of that word that started with an "e" and meant experience based. Very often associated with studies. Suddenly feeling I had it only to have it slip out of my grasp.

When I finally remembered it, I would repeat it over and over to myself. It took awhile but its now at the point where I can usually pull it up after just a brief moment of my brain slipping into neutral.

I used to have such a full vocabulary. Now I feel like I'm on a lexicological diet.

Alzheimers and dementia have crossed my mind, too. (Ironically, I just had to pause to come up with dementia.)

Memory has never been my strong suit but, now that my words are deserting me, its so much more frustrating.
I don't think this is very uncommon. I've been experiencing something similar for the last few years. The other day, I couldn't remember the word "insulin" when I was thinking about something that had to do with it. I spent an hour trying to rack my brain trying to remember the word. Other times, it will be a simple word that I obviously know, but I just can't remember it. Like you, I've been hoping it's something normal because I can't figure out what's causing it.
You are not alone. At least your substitutions aren't embarrassing.

A few years ago, I went to my ortho to check on leg cramps. A friend told me to ask about 'Lympho-edema'. I'd never heard of it and didn't write it down, of course.

For two hours in the waiting room, I tried and tried to remember the term. Couldn't come close.

I got all of the vowels, though: It was 'empho'.....something...and 'eneema' something....What was it? Absolutely could NOT remember.

Once in the examination room, again waiting for another hour trying to recall, it came to me like a flash. Whew! I remembered!

Try to imagine the look on the doctor's face when I asked him this in all seriousness and angst:

Dr. Monwell.....Do you think I could possibly have .....wait for it...... Nympho Anemia?

True story, sadly.
Maybe you should go with the flow. Just start cursing everyone incoherently and make sure they stay off your yard. :-)

Sorry, a second joke (an old one), you'll be able to go to the doctor to have him look at your brain and then tell everyone he didn't find anything. My uncle told this joke a lot after he fainted and hit his head.

I suspect this is a temporary symptom that will mysteriously go away just like it came.
I vote for stress causing the mental hick ups. Meditation and sleep help plus eating well. But stress happens and senior moments can be so annoying. Great post! I work with dementia patients. It can be devastating and is no where near just a few mental flips as it is life altering and tragic.
I find it necessary to step out of my usual role to answer you.

First of all, Jung was a fraud….a maniac. A genius, yes, but a real maniac, in the literal sense of the word. Take a look at his recently published private diaries if you want to see what I am talking about here.

That said, we are all suffering from the same ailment that causes these symptoms. Over-stimulation.

We take in too much media. We know many more words than our ancestors knew and we do not use the ancient, time-tested techniques for mental regeneration, such as mediation and other consciousness stimulating relaxation techniques.

First of all, take a look at your medicine cabinet read up on the side effects of the medicines you’re taking. Selective amnesia is a side effect of many drugs. Virtually all pain pills cause some kind of short duration amnesia, to the point where some of the most powerful pain medications are actually called amnesics because they induce short-term amnesia.

One of the side effects of the amnesics is a permanent but minimal loss of mental acuity. I suffered this myself after my cancer surgery in 2003, when I was given amnesics after the procedure so that I would not remember the incredible post-operative pain I went through. (This doesn’t work as well as they think it does….ask anyone who has been through it.) These drugs are also used in trauma cases and, if administered with 72 hours of a traumatic event such as rape, can prevent the onset of post-traumatic stress syndrome. You remember the event itself but are dissociated from the emotional reactions to the event. Actually, in some cases, you don’t remember anything at all, which isn’t good from a legal standpoint.

With the prevalence of these drugs in our society, it’s not surprising that more people are suffering such memory lapses. With the publicity being given to Alzheimer’s and other forms of dementia, it’s not surprising that we are more sensitive to these episodes because they seem like symptoms of these greatly feared disorders.

The fact that your husband has been diagnosed with M.S. is a very particular stressor that often causes the close relatives of the M.S. patient to become more self-observant and this closer self-observation makes you more sensitive to minor memory loss.

The aging process itself also causes us to become more self-observant as our aches and pains start to add up to actual disabilities.

Forgetting the names of people, places and things is neither uncommon nor indicative of any specific ailment, except for the ones that enterprising physicians are making up to cover these conditions.

Forgetting the people, places or things themselves is another matter.
I am going to guess that you are a visual thinker because it is more common for visual thinkers to recognize objects without connecting them to the words that describe those objects. Auditory thinkers – people who think in words rather than pictures – tend to remember the names of objects better because they have to form stronger associations between objects and their names in order to function effectively and efficiently.

There’s now a whole new class of drugs that are known to improve memory and cognition, many of which are gray market preparations and there are number of herbal supplements that have a similar effect, beginning with Ginkgo Biloba and certain amino acids.

A visit to a good nutritionist might be in order.

And I just remembered that I forgot to take my ginkgo today.
You know what pisses me off?
Actually none of you will give a damn butt, it is this:

"But he's 73."

I used to think that people in their 60s were old.
Then I thought that about people in their 70s.
I am seventy goddamn two years old and I am still TOTALLY active is all respects, including SEX!!

I enjoy watching jeopary~~the ONLY daytime tv I ever watch.
I find that I have to search for some replies which used to pop up imstantly.
Who know, maybe this is just the way it is.

WOW!!~~But he's 73.

WTF!! I just did a blog yesterday about what I want to do for the next few years.
Of course, as is typical around here, very few even read it.

I really get pissed when I see these bullshit things about "But he's 73."

I'm not going to say that I'm sorry. I'm 72 butt, I am not fucking dead.
There are lots of ways of forgetting, but the one you mention first and most--forgetting words--is absolutely happening to me. It is deeply distressing, perhaps because I was an English major, an avid reader, a writer, and someone known for knowing and remembering things. It happens so often now that it has become commonplace. Just yesterday I had to write on FB that I "preferred the bloke who did the Golden Globes" over James Franco. I couldn't remember the name of Ricky Gervais, and the word bloke seemed to conjure his Britishness and felt like the best substitute I could come up with at the time. But sometimes the word is, as you say, really, really ordinary. In explaining about unions to my 8th grade son, I couldn't for the life of me think of the word "organize." I kept saying to my husband, "What's that verb that people do when they first talk about unionizing?" At some recent time I couldn't think of my sister's last name. To be fair, it's her second husband, she lives far away, she met him long after we lived apart, and we communicate in ways (email, phone, etc.) that doesn't require sending things in the mail (and therefore seeing the last name). Still, I never did remember it on my own. I had to call another sister a day later to get it.
Something about Duane Gundrum's response makes me think of this: I wonder if this might in fact be a new syndrome related to the instant gratification of the internet. Hear me out:

I used to spend some time following the thread of an idea to think of a particular word or concept or book or actress or title or song tune or whatever. There were always people who didn't bother with this; I remember as a child being chastised for such perseverance by those who weren't so persistent and linear. But I was famous for following little cognitive leads to get to the answer and sometimes it would take a whole hour or day before I would, seemingly in the midst of another conversation, shout out the coveted answer.

Today, I just look it up on the internet. Sitting around watching a tv show and asking, "Oh that actor looks familiar; what else did he star in?" causes someone to lazily type in a few words on their laptop and come up with the answer. This happens all the time. Recently I wrote a master's thesis and used dictionary.com constantly, mainly for the thesaurus part. I had a certain word in mind but couldn't think of it so I just typed in a synonym and came up with a list that had my word in it. Voila!

I figure that that "following the thread" I mentioned earlier, that thing I did to figure out an answer, has some physiological manifestation. Surely there is cognitive action--neurons flooding with electricity reinforcing pathways?--when we try to think of obscure things. And the less we do that, the less able we are to do that? So eventually even the ordinary, less obscure things we need to retrieve are just harder to grasp?
Lainey, I do think Google.com can probably be blamed for a lot of this because yes, we use it constantly instead of trying to "remember" something. I do think if I were living without a TV, computer and cell phone, my brain would be clearer...but that is just a supposition. [OMG, I was able to remember the word supposition!] And SageMerlin I do indeed intend on taking your advice, a trip to the nutritionist is probably a good idea, as well as daily meditation.
I have a feeling it's stress related. But, what the hell do I know. All I know is that you managed to turn such a rough situation into a really winning and interesting post. Yes, please keep us posted.
I'm glad there's a word for what's going on with me. I have read that during menopause and peri-menopause women have some memory problems. Here's hoping we come through this just fine!