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MARCH 4, 2011 9:13AM

Visiting my friend, a hoarder

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I know hoarding resides on that vast continuum that makes up the neuroses and predilections of Human Beings.

My ex-husband began hoarding 2 years before our divorce and is burdened to this day by his need to hoard and the soothing mechanism that it affords him.

But I hadn't expected to meet it again smack in my face when visiting a friend. And from that short visit, I see that hoarding is isolating and eventually you end up alone - with all of your stuff surrounding you like a prison of boxes and bags and stacks and animals. Eventually nobody will want to visit you and you won't be able to leave your stuff in order to visit others. Perhaps this isolation suits some hoarders but I'm sure quite a few end up quite lonely without really understanding why.

Four years ago I worked with a woman in Honolulu named Tammy. She flew out from Texas to work at my company for awhile and we hit it off. We spent 3 months working together, shoulder to shoulder on our computers. When she flew back to Texas we promised to stay in touch and have done so. It's especially easy because we are in the same business and we often send each other work or share connections or potential job possibilities.

Recently my husband and I were driving through Texas so we were able to make a quick stop in to visit with her. And that is how I discovered that she is a hoarder. 100% bona fide hoarder.

I was a little shocked when she came to the gate with her hair grown long down her back and her roots gray halfway down her head, the rest of her long hair artificially colored. She looked as if she hadn't looked in a mirror for a few months. She works from home so rarely has social contact. She and her husband had not managed to come to visit us for 2 months - although we were only 3 hours away, because they couldn't leave "the dogs."

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Tammy lives on 5 acres with her 2nd husband. They have been together for 7 years. They own chickens, guinea hens, sheep and 5 large dogs. When we arrived she had to come out and open an electric gate for us to enter. Her dogs were in the house; her parents were visiting so we were able to meet them also. After we walked our 2 dogs and put them back in the jeep, she brought us inside.

At first glance her home looked normal, except for the 5 exuberant dogs jumping all over us and the black baby lamb who just joined the brood. The lambs mother had rejected her so Tammy and her husband were hand feeding her and raising her in the house. She was adorable, the size of my small dog at 12 lbs.

Tammy herded us into the kitchen where we met her parents and then we all stood around in the kitchen talking. The house smelled strongly of dog and even though she lived on 5 acres, there they were, all crammed in the house with us. Um, why? After awhile I asked to use the restroom. She showed me into the master bedroom and the adjoining bathroom. That's when I started to get an idea that something was a little off.

Her huge bathtub which would be divine to luxuriate in was filled with boxes of food and household supplies. Every surface in the bathroom was covered with something. Okay, so not a biggie. I was happy to be there and not really thinking about interior decorating.

We returned to the kitchen where we were forced to stand some more. No lunch was offered or a snack, even though she had invited us to come by and knew we were coming at lunchtime after a long road trip. She finally offered water and I managed to finangle a 7-Up out of her. I asked if I could have a tour of her house and she happily agreed.

The livingroom was full of dog kennels and dog food and water bowls. There were lighted scented candles all over the house, I think for our benefit. Every table top was covered and spilling over with stuff. The TV was on but muted. Boxes and junk covered the couch and the chairs. The dining room had a table but the chairs were full of odds and ends. There were dog pads for dogs to pee on inside. She brought me down to her parents room - the guestroom - and it was normal. That was because, as she explained, in order to have her parents come, her husband bought her a storage shed and she literally moved multiple boxes filled with debris out of that room into the outdoor shed.

Her own office was filled from top to bottom with paraphernalia, there was hardly any room for her to work in. When she opened her husbands office I stifled a gasp: it was stuffed literally floor to ceiling with boxes and junk and objects. She said that he needed to go through all of that and decide what he wanted to keep or get rid of. Just the sight of that job would break a strong man's spirit and I suspect that those weren't all of his possessions. That's when it finally dawned on me - she [and possible he] were hoarders.

And that's why we were all standing in the kitchen for our entire visit. There was no place to sit down in this 4 bedroom, 2 bath house. The second bathroom could not be used because it was completely crammed full. That's why she sent us to the one in her master bedroom. 

She led us back to the kitchen once more with the dogs and the lamb and that's when I noticed for the first time that all the counter space was full. She proudly told me they have 3 refrigerators and 3 freezers FULL of food!  This irony was not lost on my husband and I as we stood around starving at lunch time without the offer of a simple snack.  I couldn't even get a piece of cheese to nibble on! When we left I asked her if I could have a banana for the road and was relieved when she managed to part with it.

According to the Mayo Clinic: "People who engage in hoarding typically collect items because they believe these items will be needed or have value in the future. A person also may hoard items that he or she feels have important emotional significance -- serving as a reminder of happier times, for example, or representing beloved people or pets. People who hoard may report feeling safer when surrounded by the things they collect."

That is certainly true of my ex-husband. There were times in the last 10 years when I would go to his house if he was out of town and load up 10 bags of garbage and throw them out, just to make some space for my son who lived with him half the time.

Hoarding animals is common, says the Mayo. People who hoard animals may collect dozens or even hundreds of pets. They usually hoard animals that can be confined inside and concealed more easily. Because of their sheer numbers, these animals often aren't cared for properly. Veterinarians may be the first to notice signs of animal hoarding when owners seek help for a steady stream of sick or injured pets.

When my husband and I drove away we drove in silence for about 15 minutes, neither one wanting to be the first one to state the obvious. Finally he said, "so, a little bit of hoarding going on there, huh?" 

We all have our issues, our neuroses, our addictions, our flaws. Seeing it up close and completely unexpected was startling but it's also not as horrible as say, Meth addiction or dying from Lou Gehrigs disease. But I could see that my friend's future was going to be one of isolation and loneliness if nothing changes.

 

 

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It must have pained her to let go of that banana. Few things are scarier to me than the thought of being buried alive in my own stuff. I feel sorry for these people, but also very frustrated by them. I can't watch those hoarding shows.
Wow, I like my pal Bellwether stopped watching those shows.
I hope this makes cover..
If I did not run after Steve we too would be like this sans the animals.
Rated with hugs
The emotional connection is fascinating. I have a dear friend who hoards only books--every kitchen and bathroom cabinet, every surface covered with books, with small pathways between walls of books for walking between rooms. When he was a child, his mother taught him to read in spite of his dyslexia, and I think this is how he maintains the connection. I was warned before I visited, though--it must have been quite a shock to walk in to your friend's house without knowing about it.
Barricades. They build barricades, humans will hurt you as they please but objects don't. Get enough objects and there's no room for people. Some people do that with animals and it's sad, they're keeping animals away from dangerous humans and it gives them safe love at the same time. We have a lot of animal hoarders in Idaho, they wind up on the news all the time, one switched from horses to dogs for her second arrest, very sad, the animals and woman were in terrible shape.

I do the same thing but I don't like stuff so instead of hoarding I just tell people I dislike I don't want them to come in because the house is too dirty or I'm in the middle of something. I step outside if they want to talk, it's easier for me to get rid of them that way. If I have to let someone I don't like in my home, I want them out fast. Offering people food or drink is risky, eating with other people is an intimate invitation and they may not want to go. Worse, if they turn on you, they'll want to come back for more food or whatever.

I also don't want to get trapped in other people's homes, if I'm at a party and someone is "snarky" or bullying someone else, I excuse myself to the hosts, explain it why I have to go and leave. They never seem offended that I don't like being around certain people. I think it's really sad hoarders have to keep all that stuff, they can do the same thing without hoarding. My front mat says "Go Away" and when people laugh I tell them not all are welcome in my home.

I shuddered when I saw she lived in Texas because I'm in Idaho. If I lived in Texas I would rarely leave my house and I'd have a lot of a lot of ammo too. She probably has seen or experienced too many things with people. It's a compliment that she had you come for a visit, I'm sure it wasn't easy for her to let you into her safety zone. I'll pray for your friend to feel some peace and safety. Thanks for sharing this sad story.
Important post. I was glad to see the Hoarders TV show. We all need to learn from this. It happens so easily and there is such denial and actually false comfort found in hoarding. I helped a hoarder lady in Seattle. It was incredibly difficult with lots of mice in the house and wild cats. We had to put medication in her ice cream at night. We finally got her cleaned up to a certain extent and she lived two more years until 99 years old well fed and clean in her bed. The medication was haldol and it eventually gave her a stroke that killed her but she died clean.
I grew up in a hoarder house. My parents still won't admit to this fact... I've reacted to it by not having anything, being very transient and "light". All of our possessions fit into about 4 suitcases. We've given everything away twice (long story!) before finally moving to the UK. Now we're moving house and it's the same old thing. No things. I kind of wish I had a few more things...
I think it's not all psychological. There's a genetic syndrome called Prader-Willi the primary and most famous characteristic of which is the complete lack of satiety - they never can get enough to eat. Until recently they rarely lived into middle age, dying of the effects of morbid obesity. Some die of stomach rupture. They also hoard.
whhohhhoooo.. I knew it.. Congrats!!
Holy crap... well, maybe I should restate that.

This neurosis raises conflicting feelings in me. On the one hand its effects are disgusting; on the other, it seems to have something to do with feelings of vulnerability and even compassion for the animals, though they would clearly be better off in another situation. That's another irony.

I feel sorry for the woman's husband, too. I have the feeling he spends all his time enabling the situation and feels utterly powerless to do anything about it.
I don't think I could stand the smell and the mess. Every once in a while here I look back at things and say, junk it, sell it, give it away. I have to. I can't stand the mess. People have so many things now, in times past, they could not afford all this stuff or could not find it to buy. It is very sad to see people getting into these kinds of situations. Very sad. I can't watch that show Hoarders any more either, it just feels wrong. When they struggle to find a way to let go of things, it is so painful to watch. I just want to get a back hoe and move in.
I know an older woman who hoards. She buys things at rummage sales and thrift stores. She has a whole room of t-shirts, laundered and neatly folded, stacked head-high. In another room, she has huge red Snap-on toolboxes filled with jewelry. She has 30 jars of mayonnaise stacked in her living room. To eat, she has to pull the breadboard out from under her kitchen counter because there is no other available surface.

She's not anti-social. She is involved in many charitable organizations, does wonderful work, and is a very clear thinker — except about her "stuff."
Why am I picturing Chevy Chase visiting Randy Quaid et al?
Thanks for this...as a throw-awayer, hoarding is a mystery to me, one that remains so. With this compassionate portrait of your friend, you've put a human face on an imprisoning malady. Your writing, as ever, gives a clear bright picture.
Interesting post, sorry you weren't even served food or drink without asking, that's odd...
With these shows about hoarding(which I've not watched), it's getting obvious how common it is...
My mother threw away everything. Absolutely everything, including my teddy bear. That, among other things, set up a tendency for me to keep things, especially those emotional things. While I am not a hoarder, I see how this tendency can take over if allowed, and add in mental issues? Just your description of the stuffed room was depressing, I imagine coming up with the strength to deal with it must be impossible for some.
Fortunately for me, we've always moved a lot so I learned to want less belongings to move. : ) I still have to force a monthly give-away so those tendencies to 'keep' aren't strengthened.
It's a sad situation, I feel for the children of hoarders, grown or not.
I've witnessed several cases of hoarding (and I'm not entirely free of it myself, particularly when it comes to books and data of various kinds), and always find it heartbreaking. These people are always saving up for "a rainy day" or some sort of life and particularly relationships they are never going to have - particularly if they keep hoarding. I've always felt the solution would be to proceed to live this imagined life and use up the stuff, then start out new. But I imagine the problem is much too deep-seated to be solved this easily.

I forget who it was who said: "You can never get enough of what you don't really want." Think about it.

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How sad! Hoarding seems to be more prevalent now. Is it because it's been brought out in the open or more people are becoming hoarders?
I feel sorry for your friend...at least she only has five dogs...so far. Hopefully someone will step in and help her!
Alan, I think it was Wayne Dyer, and I still have to think about that statement when I hear it.

I suppose moving house often enough will rid you of clutter to some degree, but hoarding is an illness resulting in the stalling out of a home life, and is so disrupting of human relationships around you that it leaves one alone, as you said so well, D.

I saw my first example of hoarding a number of years back, when asked to feed my landlords cat while she was OOT for a few days. It was so impressive that I violated her privacy and called my SIL over to see the place. We walked through the habitrails, bordered by 4 ft high walls of stacked items, completely slack-jawed. The kitchen was non existent. If there was a sink or an oven, I couldn't vouch to it. Her husband's room was organized to a fault, as was his bathroom, both on the other side of the house from 'her' quarters. Clearly he'd made his decision, and staked off his part of the house as part and parcel of an agreement to continue to live this way with his wife. We never know what goes on behind a door, do we?
Thank you, Deborah. An informative and non-judgmental look into a very sad human dilemma. I can imagine the inner conflict and loneliness of a hoarder; and even put a face on it after reading this.
♥R
I buy Cottonelle by the case. Is that bad?
So sad and so interesting. My mom was a "secret" hoarder -- only because she had an enormous attic in which to hide stuff. When we moved in to take care of her, ('cause it was a lot easier than trying to move her out) she had filled up the attic and was piling up her room. She'd cover piles of books and magazines with towels -- I guess hoping we wouldn't notice. But then her Alzheimer's got bad and she forgot about hoarding. We gave away several van loads of books and clothes and filled an enormous dumpster.
When it came time to move I was going to get rid of all of her paperweights -- I invited my women's group over and we had a circle around all the paperweights, then they each took one. They convinced me to keep the rest. So now they're on my window sill and every day when I look at them I think of my mom.
I know I have some of her tendencies -- I have a freezer full of food and a garage full of "supplies" -- I guess it's a matter of degree (and awareness).
Well-written and provocative. R.
One of my friends is a hoarder and now she is so ill she can't walk through her house using the walker like she is supposed to. I have tried to clean her place twice but in no time, it is atrocious again. Will not do it again.
This was really interesting. I've never met a hoarder that I know of, but I could see myself becoming one....Especially for cats, if left unchecked by my boyfriend....Thanks for an intriguing read. I hope your friend and her husband will heal one day and get over their problem.
After stopping at a house that was that much of a mess, I'm not sure I'd have wanted to eat anything she cooked. I'd never claim to be the world's best housekeeper, and clutter is constantly encroaching, but I can't watch those hoarder shows, either. I love my two cats, they're wonderful company, but for the brief time during which I had three cats, I found myself feeling it was all entirely too much. To live surrounded by animals in too small a space is not a healthy or pleasant way to live.

Yikes!
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According to Josh Freed. A person who does this can be quite brilliant and very well organised in the collection of their horde. THis is according to some mighty fine experts. Thanks for the horde.
I clicked on your story because I have a friend much like yours. His hoarding gets worse every year when I see him for tax work. But, our relationship is not that close so I never say anything. At some point, someone will I guess. I hope he gets help before his whole house sinks from all the stuff.

Someone mentioned a person who hoarded books. My husband is a collector of books he would say but I have had difficulty keeping up with all them. I don't think I would characterize that as hoarding. Hoarders keep everything--boxes, paper, all kinds of objects.
I think I have some hoarder tendencies, so when I watched the hoarder shows a few times, I got anxious but also motivated to check where I was at. At one time, we had 5 cats. I tend to hoard paper stuff, books and other memories, and I have to get into a state of mind where I "toughlove" myself and start getting rid of stuff. I have to remind myself throughout that the stuff is weighing me down.
It looks like Suburban White Lady is a hoarder of comment space.
I have a very hard time with the animal aspect of this. People who hoard animals do it out of selfish lack of consideration of the need for animals to have a clean enviornment in which to thrive.
I appreciate your compassion for your friend. I work as a professional organizer. Those of us in the profession recognize that it takes special training along with the help of a therapist for someone like that to successfully heal. It is very, very sad. Nice piece.
Over-attachment to "stuff" is never good. Fascinating ... with the perfect image to illustrate the isolation aspect.
It seems to me this disorder is being fed by something in our society. I remember a time when people parked their cars in their garages. Then it became that the garages were full of stuff and people parked their cars in their driveway. Now people are parking their cars on the street, as the garages are full and the driveways are full too. We have many neighbors who have a full garage, a full driveway, and also the side yard is full of parked boats, rvs, or something else. We have a few houses down the block that used to be lovely homes but now have 3, 4 or sometimes more junked cars in the yard with other items such as pieces of things along with an office chair etc. Essentially trash that people do not seem to have the skill to deal with.

I think the problem is that we are told constantly to buy things, but we do not have the trade in programs that we once did. It used to be back in the 50s or so you traded in your old car when you bought a new one, other things were the same, household appliances etc. Now you see houses with appliances are outside and people with a freezer and two refrigerators in the garage. With all that we 'throw away' without throwing it away, we could clothe and house all those people who are without homes, and living in less than ideal situations.
Well...I'm not THAT bad! I definitely would have fed you guys & offered you wine or coffee or freshly baked cookies! Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go feed my ten cats...