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FEBRUARY 26, 2009 5:46AM

Offensive? Bill Maher interviews Brigitte Gabriel

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I don't want to sound the alarm, but I do want to open something up for discussion.  I have long been a fan of Bill Maher. Of course, this doesn't mean I agree with everything he says, but he is obviously intelligent and does seem to have a good bullshit meter on many things.  He is also able to criticize both parties (though he is clearly more liberal than Republican), which I appreciate. Sometimes I think his show is one of the few worth watching on T.V.
I was disappointed by this past weekend's interview with Brigitte Gabriel of ACT! (American Congress for Truth).  I had never heard of her before, but apparently she is an Arab-American who speaks out on Muslim issues.  Bill wanted to ask her about the recent murder of Aasiya Z. Hassan, a Muslim woman living in Buffalo, by her husband, Muzzammil.
The irony to Bill and Brigitte is that Muzzammil ran a TV station called Bridges, which was designed to promote positive images of Muslims.  Bill begins speaking to Brigitte about the murders at about 1 minute 45 seconds in.  And oh, what chuckling ensues! It is as if they are discussing a wonderful comedy! Isn't it hilarious that--hehehehe--a MUSLIM man who wanted to promote POSITIVE images of Muslims then goes and CUTS OFF his wife's head with a SWORD?  DO YOU THINK HE KEPT IT AROUND THE HOUSE TO SAY, "LOOK HOW FAR WE"VE COME?"
Substitute any other group in America for the Muslims in this case.  Could you get away with making fun of a murder without heaps of criticism?  Here is a recent article about the Muslim couple from the Buffalo News:
Ironically, it was the wife, Aasiya, who, according to the several stories from the Buffalo News, actually had the idea to start the station after Sept. 11.  Some posit that, though she filed for divorce and protection orders many times, she might have stayed with her husband so a public outing of his abuse wouldn't damage the mission and reputation of the station.
I decided to do what research I could about Brigitte Gabriel.  Why, other than being an Arab, would she be picked to speak about this case?  Here is an interesting article I found on israelenews.com:
Its author, Bruce Wilson, has contributed to the DailyKos and in May 2008, publicized the anti-Semitic remarks of pastor John Hagee1, who had endorsed McCain.  Wilson  identifies Brigitte Gabriel as having links to "Hasbara, a pro-Israel effort-- described charitably by a California Jewish weekly as 'a unique Israeli invention, a special blend of public relations, propaganda and dissemination of information mixed with a few drops of explanation and apologetics' or, less charitably, as simply a propaganda outlet." Brigitte Gabriel has made such charming statements in the past as "you cannot trust having a Muslim in office. When he has to make a decision to either be loyal to the United States or be loyal to Islam."  Hmm.
Wikipedia, which, as Bill Maher has admitted, has been proven to rival the accuracy of Encyclopedia Britannica, sums Brigitte up as an "anti-Muslim activist," who has written such heartwarming titles as, They Must Be Stopped.  The New York Times magazine identified her as a
radical Islamophobe in 2008.  Could there be a pattern here?
In any case, I couldn't help but ask myself why anyone would laugh over the murder of an innocent woman.  Perhaps Bill and I should take a break from each other. It's not you, Bill, it's that hardhearted witch you had on...no, not Ann Coulter...the other one...
then again, it IS your show.  You're the Decider. In the future, please thoroughly check your guests' backgrounds.  Remember your own advice:
Be more cynical.
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1. Hagee's anti-Catholic comments figure into an old post from my own blog:  http://open.salon.com/blog/deliablack/2008/11/26/torture_blackmail_executions_and_the_death_of_my_father

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Religious fundamentalism has to go, regardless of which brand.

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Um, I dunno. I thought Maher's cracking up over the beheading to be a bit much, but it IS a funny story, in a dark way... And what would one expect from Maher?

It's hard to find a 'proper' stance on the Muslim thing - either condemning everybody or PCing ourselves to death. (There was something in the media yesterday - ack, on Lou Dobbs - about a U.N. movement to make criticizing Islam - which consists of people - a crime, or something, an anti-blasphemy offence, and that is scary.) It would help if we heard Muslim reps and communities speak up and say they're horrified by such as the beheading case. If it happens, I for one don't hear about it - but I have heard, in person as well as in the media, much complaining about their bad press...

I agree with Rick - but fundamentalism of various varieties (and not just religious) seems to be an on-going facet of human nature. Fundamentalists we have with us always. Perhaps laughter is the best antidote - for our sanity, if not theirs.

P.S. - Gabriel didn't make a great impression on me and this is interesting background you provide. For Muslim critiques, I like to see that Canadian (now in the States) lesbian Muslim woman whose name escapes me at the moment...
Both were completely tone deaf to the gravity and tragedy of the situation they described. I was appalled. Could be that Maher's brilliance leaves him all alone out there. No one tells him, "You can't do this." I enjoy his evisceration of the Right, so I accept his criticisms of guys like me (I pray, stay sober and stay married.) If I want to watch him dish it out, I have to be willing to take it. But every now and again he swings and misses so badly the result is horrendous, as it was here. My favorite episode from last year came when Andrew Sullivan neatly demolished him for his contempt for people of faith. For once, Maher was speechless. The show is far more entertaining when his guests are willing to challenge him.
Excellent journalism. He should take his own advice in matching his issues with guests. For what it is worth, I think he was clearly mocking the murderer, not the murder or the victim. But it didn't come through well with his style - he can't seem to mix humor and outrage effectively though I feel he has some important things to say about religion.
thanks for the links...and your post and comments here were informative. It is one thing reading about these things in the press and another to get it from you guys - duz make a diff. Thanks.
Thank you for this. As someone who, after 911, tried to educate freaked out Americans about Islam (generic Islam is no more dangerous than generic Protestantism), this incident disturbed me terribly, and it is nothing to laugh about. It is indeed another indictment of fundmentalist religions of all ilks.
My mother, an agnostic, said to me, "All religions have a little piece of the truth, so they all need to be respected. But the minute someone tells you they are THE ONLY ONES WITH THE ANSWERS, run away as fast as you can."
This was in the late '60's - she was ahead of her time.
While sick humor is a sort of psychological safety valve, it is usually better aimed at oneself or at least one's own culture or people. Otherwise, as you suggest here, it too easily and too frequently devolves into propaganda.
hahahahaha funny....NOT !
good research. well done Delia
Excellent work - longtime Bill watcher, but definately agree with you on this one.
Fundamentalism is the issue; that is where the focus belongs. If people distract from that with things like whether or not Maher was politically correct or incorrect in discussing this particular matter with one particular individual, then the real issue becomes lost.

The irony of the situation is undeniable, and we can shake our heads in agony over the horrendous murder, we can agonize over whether Maher was offensive, we can complain about the views of Maher’s guest, or we can focus on the real issue.

It was clear after Maher got into the discussion with Gabriel that he did not like, nor share her views on anything other than the problem of radical Islam. And he issued an invitation to her to come back on the show some time so they can debate those disagreements.
I do agree that Maher chided her slightly--he did mention the U.S. nationbuilding in 1950s Iran when she tried to act like we had never done anything to upset Muslims anywhere. Still, Maher seemed to agree with her too much for me. He almost seemed to be happy to hear her answers, because, once she self-identifies as Arabic, she can say things that a non-Arab couldn't. She is a Christian, though, so she is still heaping prejudice on a group she doesn't belong to. I know he wouldn't have someone on his show that made fun of other ethnic/religious groups in the same way as she trashes Muslims. I have never seen Maher ask a neo-Nazi what he thinks of Israeli politics or a Klansman about the NAACP. Why would he ask her anything?
Here is a link to a story where she tells her interviewer that, because he is Jewish, the Muslim man he thinks is his friend is really not his friend. As the interviewer says, "The funniest/saddest part was her refusal to accept that I had a Muslim friend who didn't hate Jews and didn’t want Israel wiped off the map. Here we're discussing my friend Raf." http://www.ajn.com.au/news/news.asp?pgID=3403
And I still can't get past their yukking it up over a woman being stabbed and beheaded. I know Maher doesn't like religion, but I can't remember him finding murders of Christians, Jews or anyone else so funny.
Nope, don't like Bill Maher. Too smug. Can't get past that - can't watch him. But if I did, I'd be mad at him too. I just like your writing, and the points you make.
I definately agree, not cool to make fun of a murder like that. At the same time, I'm not one for p.c. talk , but clearly he crossed the line (as he usually does). Very good writing, I like your though patterns, and I love the Johnny cash picture (he is one of the best ever!!!) I'm new to this, so it's great to see some kick ass fellow writers on here.
I thought exactly the same on the show. Why is Islam on the dock here? True that it is ironic that "bridges" was their brainchild but that is neither here nor there. Domestic violence is a crime. Murder is a crime. This is not in question is it? Dark humor? There is no dark humor here at all. The TV was their bread and butter and gave them their social status. The continuing violence between them which was brought to the attention of the law several times ended in a worse crime. Someone let the ball slip here long long ago. It is an odd thing when "law" cannot prevent something like this without a formal petition.