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AUGUST 29, 2009 12:08PM

Republicans Protest SoCal Firefighter Socialist Agenda

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GOP Republicans Protest SoCal Firefighter Socialist Agenda

 

In what has been described as a grass-roots movement turned grass-fire movement, Republicans everywhere are standing up against Socialist Firefighters bent on undoing the will of God.   The vast majority of Americans will never use the Socialized Service of Government run fire departments.   Staunch GOP voters are now repeating the question of, “Why should anyone (including “welfare queens", illegal aliens, and NPR listeners) be able to dial 911 and have a fire put out?”  The chairman of the Republican National Committee (his name has been withheld since he is no longer authorized to speak to the media) puts it this way.  “We are tired of the Government getting between us and our firefighters.  We believe in the private free market.  Americans, especially the elderly, know that a private “Haliburton” style department battling fires with small plastic bottled water supplied by “KBR” style contractors is a better approach to any emergency.   Our Grass-fire movement members (called “Burnies”) are especially outraged by the encroaching communism of Volunteer Fire Fighting Collectives.  Volunteer groups are precisely the cause of the downfall of the Romanov family in Russia.  To paraphrase the great Ronald Reagan, "Mr. Obama, tear these VFDs down!"  

 When questioned about how such privatization would work, we received the following answer, “It’s simple - when you have the need for emergency services, you provide an Independent Fire Protection Contractor with a certified copy of your birth certificate.  After verification of your birth certificate, they will run a credit check through three different credit bureaus to determine your raw Fico score.  Based on the result, they will determine what type of financing you will be eligible for in order to pay for them to put out your fire.  After you have been qualified (or declined – if you have poor credit or a pre-existing fire) with your Independent Fire Protection Contractor, you will start the process all over again with your Independent Water Supply Contract Provider.  At this point the Independent Fire Protection Contractor will verify that the Independent Free Market Fire Elimination Specialist Service Provider you selected is “in network”.  We just know that this system makes much more sense than dialing 911 and have a bunch of Socialists show up.”

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Independent Fire Protection Contractor...LOL...I know where you're coming from. I have a friend in SoCal close to a fire right now. She's a hard-core anti-government type, but she is sure looking for that socialist fire service right about now! Rated.
This is a joke, right?

Firefighters are in no way socialist.
ahhh, I see what you are saying Blackflon - Taxpayers funding services provided by the government is in your words, "in no way socialist".
I agree - fire services are NOT socialist...Let the single-payer health care begin! (And no, I am not joking!) :)
Funny stuff here. Shows the logical dead-end of dumb adherence to ideology.

Actually many right wing libertarians do believe that fire-fighters and police should be private entities--they contend that the free market will provide the best services. Robert Nozick outlines this quite plainly in the brilliant "Anarchy, State, and Utopia"(it is brilliant, and an important book, even if I disagree with the central thesis--this is an important and influential book for the free-market right wing).
In theory the right-wing libertarian, free marketers make a compelling case. But then again, so did the communists. Neither right wing libertarians or communists were able to take into account the most important variable: human nature.

Too many people take ideology as a short-cut to actually thinking. Pity.

Anyway, thanks for the laugh!
@DemLiberal, socialism is an economic system that has to do with the production and distribution of goods and who controls them.

Firefighters neither produce nor distribute goods.
Socialist economics are the economics of socialism. According to many proponents, socialist economic theories and arrangements are united by the desire to: produce for use rather than profit, achieve greater equality, give workers greater control of the means of production, use rational scientific planning to create a more effective mechanism for producing and distributing goods and services, and to direct the economy towards social goals rather than individual profit. @Blackflon when you studied economics you must have missed the part about "and services"
OK, after this I'll shut up...My earlier comment = sarcasm - need to cut down on that, I guess. My whole point was that my friend is forever calling things she doesn't think should be provided - mostly services, like universal health care - as "socialist". I think if she really feels that way, she should drop out of Medicare and use an Independent Fire Protection Contractor...(I can't even type that without laughing - thanks DemLiberal!)
@DemLiberal, nothing I have read about socialism uses the word "services". Maybe it's out there but I haven't seen it.
Firefighters and socialism don't make sense, in my opinion.
I appreciate your sincere interest Blackflon. These might be a good place to start.

"Handbook of Win-Win Economics: Combining Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy", 2001 By Stuart S. Nagel

"Economic Theory of Co-operative Enterprises: Selected Readings", 1983, The Plunkett Foundation for Co-operative Studies.

"Ethics, Efficiency and the Market", 1985 by Allen Buchanan

"Economic Justice and Democracy: From Competition to Cooperation (Pathways Through the Twenty-First Century)", 2005 by Robin Hahne

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_economics
This is perfect!! and for me *the* post that sums it all up.

You're a clever one DemLiberal. Glad to know you.

denese
Thanks so much for your compliment Denese!
Snerk.

I saw something similar up as a Facebook group a couple of weeks ago (before the fires started) and thought it was bloody brilliant, too.

Yep.

Keep the gub'mint outta my firefighting. The private sector can do it best! Don't take my tax dollars to put out those flames for the illegals living in the canyons; I'd rather pay Blackwater and Haliburton directly for a private "fire protection service." I'm sure they wouldn't charge extortionary rates or anything.
Thanks for your compliment - hope you get a chance to check out some of my older posts as well!