
This is the internet people. The internet is overrun with folks living out their issues online. It’s a breeding ground for socially challenged individuals who love finding ways to antagonize others.
Online forums are like Happy Meals for contentious misanthropes who spend most of their waking hours surfing the web.
It’s the price we pay for free speech.
If you don’t want to become like them, then for God’s sake stop acting like a bunch of howling monkeys flinging their poop at each other.
Stop the malicious back and forth.
Stop the, “He said, she said.”
Stop the, “But she hit me first!”
Stop the, “I’m going to tell teacher on you!”
Stop the, “It’s time we rallied to protect so and so!” campaigns.
Please stop flooding the feed with this stuff.
All of our blogs come with a delete button. If you don’t like comments delete them. If you don’t like certain bloggers ignore them.
But in the name of God please stop the childish school yard behavior.
If you “left” OS for whatever reason, please stop coming back to antagonize others using an “alter” ID.
It’s not cool or cute or clever to use a fake ID to confront someone about anything. It’s cowardly, no matter how you justify it. Worse still when you come back with a “alter” gang. Either come back as yourself or not at all.
If you’re offended by a post, a comment, or a blogger, grow up for God’s sake, and learn to ignore them.
Quit playing the victim. If you’re the one keeping the issues front and center with yet another post describing how you or your friends have been abused, that’s not victimization. That’s participation.
“But I was wronged!” you say. Yes. You and thirty million other people. Every day. But this is the internet, for Pete’s sake. It’s not like they stole your food ration while you’re starving in the Sudan.
There are no online martyrs and very few genuine online victims. There are, however, far too many folks who want to appear to be one or the other or both.
For God’s sake stop. Grow up. There are always going to be idiots who write rotten stuff. They have that right. Just don’t become one yourself. Stay out of the kerfuffles du jour if you really want to be different.
Not just once. Not just most of the time. But consistently.
Writers must have tender hearts and thick skins. Very thick skins. Bloggers need these things too.
Try this test. See if you can quit writing posts or comments about anyone else on OS unless it’s to direct folks to great work.
Drop out of your gang or club or group. Be brave. If your best friends are acting stupidly, say so. Admonish them to stop acting like spoiled infants or spurned lovers.
But in the name of all that is holy, quit saying you care about this place, or art, or people, if what you’re doing is perpetuating the strife on either side.
Open Salon has the potential to blow the doors off the literary world. There is so much talent here.
Please. Don’t let this place become just another forum where people fight online. Do all you can do to make OS what it could and should be: A repository of literary and artistic riches.


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Well put, sir.
Dennis... I think I love you!
Was there some sort of fight here today? (kidding....kidding..)
It is rather amazing how effective NOT participating, ignoring, and other such liberating acts are.
Not that I am noble. Christ, I love a good train wreck, and have been known to watch a show, for over 15 minutes, mind you, that had Leif Garrett as a commentator.
Heck, I was hesitant to even respond to THIS.
But it was too good not to...so..rated.
Yes there is....
Now go read my not-so-literary thingie.
:-P
Egads..I miss you guys.
{{kidding.. KIDDING! Don't hit!}}
Rated for one who knows where he is.
(the unreal which is the 'net, as opposed to the real which is not the 'net)
may i add one more suggestion: don't say something hateful then pretend you are 'only joking'. humor is a wonderful thing, but using it to disguise an attack is not. it is cowardly. (r)
I have to agree with you here. You're right, it is the internet. When I start taking things too seriously, I know it's time to find something else to do.
Best Wishes,
Blittie
R
Well said.
He befriended `Maxine Hong Kingston.
Her home burned down on my birthday.
Where is Maxine?
She Moonbeams?
Maxine is sweet!
Read Homer too.
Read at a beach.
Waves calm too.
Hear the bubble.
Listen to bird loon.
Watch seagulls too.
I am just saying`Hi!
I was weary pooped!
Minds need soothed!
O, I am just spoofing!
It's great to be `human.
Thanks for ` reminding.
Let's practice`kindness.
Lettuce eat peas, leeks,
beets. No self-loathes.
We project self-hates.
Quiet is essential too.
Minds can be humming.
Bees sting on penis too.
Be careful. Behave too.
Penis swells big as ball.
It gets like a girl soft ball.
Who knows why I wrote it?
I remembered being stung.
It sure hurt and then itched.
No wake up and itch to fight.
No quarrel! Watch Moon too.
Your words are refreshing and true, and I am SO pleased to hear them!
let's keep OS a place where dialogue and discussion does not escalate into mud flinging and hand wringing. Support should be the first rule and if debate is called for, keep it dignified, polite and on topic; not personal! Thank you for giving voice to this.....
So, let's see... who haven't I been pissed at lately?
okay...
Hey, Mrs. Raptor! STFU Bitch!
:~D
(What the hell do you mean I missed the point????)
I was beginning to feel like there needed to be sidelines drawn on my desktop screen.
I showed up here a few weeks ago and have been struck by how incessant, emotional and middle school it gets. Who needs it?
I appreciate finding some new writers and readers. But this other shit has really got to stop. It's amateurish in the ugliest and most immature sense of that word. It will also seriously repel talent and intelligence, as it should.
I love you. This is going into my left hand column under 'How to Rock OS'. Don't be such a stranger....did I say I love you? can I have your private email address?
(say no,... for your own protection)
If people would put half the energy into their writing that they put into their interpersonal battle here I do believe we'd have a paradise for all to see. To quote Woody Guthrie. Or somebody.
My motto has been to delete wherever possible. I only occasionally take the cape out of mothballs in defense of those I see as deserving a fair shake. Mostly, I believe in the DELETE button, and what it's for is peace of mind.
My latest post is all about the fair play you mention, along with the delete function.
Let's everybody play fair and enjoy!
A very solid Rate
Rated with appreciation.
Sheesh!
Lezlie
Some of us come here to write and create. Let's stay with that.
I agree with all you said, and am so happy to see Art James, even with his bee-stung penis.
the comments were closed.
Hell yeah and you loved it! Hehehheeee.
(R)ated accordingly!
Everyone should friggin' care less about bullshit exchanges. Folks with an axe to grind should be left to grind away, without input from the rest of us. Do NOT feed into crap, do NOT weigh in, and it will go away.......
Posts like this often garner very positive responses. They are akin to writing an article titled, “Please OS, Stop Drowning Puppies!” Who wants to go on record as someone who opposes that?
The real hope in writing anything that concerns this site is to help keep us from becoming inbred, self absorbed and self destructive as a forum. The talent resident here is jaw dropping and the potential of being a community that encourages the best in one another is staggering.
My hope is that posts like this will nudge us in the direction of our “better angels” creatively and give us pause before we engage in behaviors that are punitive, childish and unnecessarily grievous to others.
I deleted one comment at the author’s request.
How does one italicize in comments?
I especially like the part I copied here. I used what I consider to be similar logic in a discussion with someone recently.
Whatever the reason, this place is certainly hoppin' with kerfuffles, and people seem to have long memories for being wronged. Being of the nosy & (of late) bored variety, I spent the last couple of nights reading here, jumping from blog to blog like I'm a frog in Frogger, trying to stay on track & trace the feuds.
Since I'm a visual learner, I seriously considered at one point making a diagram of who is who, who is mad at whom, who is allied with whom, plus all the whys, whens & whatnots. Then I suddenly became really bored with it all, and said forget it.
From an outsider's perspective, it's kind of fascinating at first, in a soap-opera kind of way. I can certainly see why anybody here who would prefer that the place be more of a writer's forum and less of a sandbox & playground would be really annoyed.
The *STOP IT* should be (here I am, joining the Should Chorus) directed toward behaving like I do (I'm exemplary, and will ignore all criticisms) - I don't participate (well, hardly ever). Let the mud wrestlers have their fun (or whatever they're getting out of it), *ignore* and read & comment on the rest of the stuff here... (Well, maybe have a peek at the fights, if it's otherwise a slow day...)
For those who are in the mud bath and want out - just start *ignoring*. No more responding - responding angrily, snarkily, gently, reasonably ... it doesn't matter how you do it: it's feeding the fire. Fire doesn't care if you feed it pages of the sweetest prose or used toilet paper. Just don't feed it.
And if fire comes calling and tries to inflame your comments section, then delete and carry on *ignoring*. Boy, you should see the collection of nasty comments and just totally vile PMs I've *deleted*. Okay, I don't have anything. Just maybe three somewhat grumpy PMs over the course of my 'career' here, but that's because I don't get involved. (Well, hardly ever.)
P.S. - If I see ONE MORE REFERENCE to high school (or grade school, or kindergarten), I'm going to have to write a scolding, scalding meta post. Urging an OS-wide metamorphosis. More pho, sis! It's damned good stuff (but no recipes, please...oh, okay, recipes, I just won't read...or if I read, I won't cook...DON'T PARTICIPATE.)
Yep. And there will always be people to admonish them to please stop. But they won't stop, because they ARE the people who write rotten stuff. The people who ignore and don't click and don't write rotten stuff don't need the admonishment.
But I like this anyway.
Btw, I should do a meta post. Sure fire way to get more than 3 comments. (tee hee) ;)
Seriously; but in fairness it is only because I learned how to search for issue oriented blogs and ignore some of the less desirable ones. My viewing range is very narrow I guess and during the first week or two I noticed enough to realize it was there if I went in other places including some of the highest rated posts which are often more about socializing than the issues which I have been trying to focus on.
Still your point is good many of these people may not have been taught right as little children and they never grew up.
YES. See Sandra's latest post, the Clearing.
Missed this earlier but am glad to come along and see that your worthy plea found ready ears!
Hope that the end of summer is finding you looking forward to comfort foods and wood fires.
Kind regards,
Stephanie
I missed this when you first posted this. This is fantastic advice for all of us.
"Open Salon has the potential to blow the doors off the literary world. There is so much talent here" could be judged as grandiose.
The "talented" have every right to expect civility in the blogs and responses, perhaps because they are talented. Do we need Daddy Dennis to tell us to "stop it" if we don't give or get it?
If someone is verbally abusive and another calls them on it, perhaps you could just leave it alone. Let them settle it.
And where are the literary doors, why blow them off when you can just knock?