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MAY 17, 2010 9:42AM

Victoria and I Have a Secret

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We all have our secrets. Victoria supposedly has more than most. But if you really want the down and dirty, hang out in the dressing room of a Victoria's Secret for a few and you'll see and hear it all.

I found myself in one this past weekend with my daughter, shopping for a swimsuit. For her, not me. Modesty is the rule at our house, so I waited outside the door while she changed. I saw women of all shapes, sizes and ages entering and exiting dressing rooms with all  manner of underthings and swimwear. You could hear comments, some to themselves, some from small children who were accompanying their mothers into the inner sanctum, "Mommy, I wanna braw..." Soon enough, my sweet. Soon enough.

Then, I overhead one woman asking the salesgirl. "Do you have this push-up in a 34 Double D?" Say what?? Even the salesgirl hesitated for a second and said, "I'll check, but I doubt if we carry it. Usually if you're that 'blessed' you don't need anything to enhance it." Or something to that effect. She definitely used the word "blessed."

I looked down at my own chest and thought, I must have been absent the day they were handing out boobie blessings. On the bright side--I know for a fact that there are lots of push-up bras in a 34A. 

Ann Nichols posted the other day about clothes memories and she nonchalantly mentioned an article of clothing she liked because it made her breasts look smaller. I don't like her anymore.

Men have their own size issues, but the discrepancy is far smaller than it is for women. Think about it. While men can make themselves feel inadequate by obessesing over the difference of an inch or two, women get to compare almost massive side-by-side differences.

Any really large breasted woman will tell you, it's a curse, not a blessing. And I agree. I've known a couple who had to resort to breast reduction surgery. Given a choice between this and that, I'd stick with what I've got. But, almost any small-breasted woman will tell you that the other end of the spectrum is a curse as well. Clothes never fit well, especially dresses and one-piece swimsuits. Few clothes are made for bodies with a top that's two sizes smaller than the bottom.

You can opt for padding, but then, when I was single and dating, there was always that moment of truth. It could turn ugly. My least favorite memory was the guy who, as I exposed myself both literally and figuratively said, "You have really small breasts." No shit, Sherlock. The perfect rejoinder would, of course, have been to comment about his shortcomings. But, unfortunately, he had none. On a scale of 1-10. He was an 11. Probably why he was so arrogant.

Then there was the guy who, bless his pea-pickin' heart, thought he was being complimentary, when he said, "I like small breasts." It felt like a slap in the face.

I went through a phase in the 80s, when I figured why wear a bra? What is it exactly I'm trying to support here? That phase ended abruptly when I realized the guys in the mailroom were acting like they'd been shot with a stun gun as I bent over and my loose top gave a panoramic view of what was underneath. Men.

Breast implants were not so common then. Only actresses and socialites had their breasts "done." If I was in my 20's or 30's now, I wouldn't be sitting here posting, I would be calling up my plastic surgeon, making an appointment. I even mentioned it to my husband a few years ago, but he let me know I was too old for such nonsense. Thanks, Hon.

To his credit, it never seemed to bother him. I do remember once shortly after he came to this country,  and before his English had reached the advanced level, I was changing and he looked at me and said, "You're so sneaky." Translation: "You're so skinny." I have a feeling he might have been referring to more than just my rib cage, but I didn't pursue it.

My "condition" is a genetic hand-me-down from my mother. I'm her, on a larger scale. My daughter has been spared this fate. And as ridiculous as it may seem to the male readers or to the women reading who actually have something to fill out a "braw," I was thrilled when she came out of the dressing room to show me the swimsuit and I had to tell her, "You're hanging out of that top. You'll need a bigger size."

 

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Well, good thing she got your husband's boobies. ...er, wait.
Cute story!
An 11? I believe I was standing in the wrong line too!
The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence! My experience has been that clothes are constructed for women built like coat hangers, and I have to be careful to avoid looking as if I am in the fifth month of carrying twins.
RavingBits, Funny..he's got 4 sisters and lot of nieces with clear genetic evidence of where hers came from.

scanner, I think we all feel like we were standing in the wrong line in one way or another!

Ann, you know I'm JK with my "I don't like her anymore" comment. I'm only built like a coat hanger from the waist up and therein lies the problem!

LC Neal, Thanks! As I said to scanner, I think we all feel like we were standing in the wrong line when "they" were handing out the goodies we really wanted. Of course, I love Annie too.
Delightful story, Densie, well told. I stay out of Victoria's Secret as much as possible, since my husband always asks if they're "doing live modeling today." Groan.
I love victoria secret, but if I do get anything I buy it online. Going into the store is torture. Their sizing runs so small that if you have any curves at all having to dig around for the larger sizes (at least for me) just feels bad.

-R-
Ann's right. The grass is always greener..._r
As someone who wears push-up bras in around the same size as your 34DD friend, I'll just let you in on a secret - gravity isn't our friend! Sometimes a little modern engineering puts things in their rightful place and makes everything just a little more comfortable. There's a fine line between finding the right support and resting them on a silver platter, which is why Vickie's Secret is a poor choice for busty ladies, but push-ups can be discrete and flattering when worn appropriately!
Wonderful story. I love the personal touches to a story many will relate to.
A lovely look at something we women struggle with. Remember the french and their champagne glass theory, any more than enough to fill one is a waste, or something like that.
Kathy, I've never bought a thing from there, but it's all that with teenage girls. A couple of push-ups did catch my eye, though. :-)

LadyMiko, like I said, I'm a Victoria's Secret virgin, but that may change soon....

Joan, true dat, as the kids say. But there are lots of shades of green! :-)

Reader Not Writer, point taken. Gravity takes its toll even on us A-cuppers, believe it or not!

Buffy, thanks!

Dear reader, yes, I've heard a slightly more graphic version of that, but same drift. It's become my mantra over the years.
There's no way looking for a swimsuit is a happy thing, no matter your size...I hope the ones I ordered don't have giant boobie cups!
Hmmm, I'm still cogitating over or actually "obsessing over an inch or two." I really wonder if I measure up now. That has the potential of being between 25 and 40 percent for crying out loud.

I think there will always be too much or too little no matter how you look at it. I prefer eye contact.
I LOVED this and I don't make gushy mushy comments, so there. Great smiles in this one, haha hahaha, still laughing. The degree of sharing that goes on in a ladies dressing room is definitely worth a comment, it's , it's , wow. I have no words. Really fine last line, tightly written, and amusingly droll (esp the Ann comment) hahhhaaaa.haah. You slay me Denise.
Blue in TX, that reminds me, when my daughter was about 4, she thought swimsuits came with boobs, and was so disappointed to find that the one she bought was boob-less. Funny.

OESheepdog, you had me LOL, imagining you sitting down calculating the percentages. I'm still laughing, in fact! Just remember, for women that difference can probably be 1000% or greater!!! But eye contact is good. My post yesterday listed "great eyes" under turn ons. So, there ya go. Thanks for the chuckle.
Try finding bras in a brick-and-mortar store in size 34D or 32DD that are actually made to hold up the girls (and aren't just a larger version of the A and B cup bras).

Oh...and try finding a non-plus sized one-piece bathing suit that has an actual bra built in. I'm not talking about the joke of a "shelf bra" or "lightly-padded soft cup bra." I'm talking about an actual band and underwires that keep the girls where they're supposed to be.
Definitely can relate to this. Go for a run in the park, watch the seemingly painful heaving and bouncing of the more endowed women, and you'll feel better.
This is the joke that says it all about big breasts: "Last week old Mrs. Jones had a scare. Thought she'd found a lump in her breast....but it was only her belt buckle!"

Sorry, too, that you bought into the male fantasy concerning big breasts. Such men and their fantasies are so infantile and pathetic, but these are the ones whose attention you crave? Have most men actually seen big breasts, especially after the mid-twenties? And men still find these stretched-out, flattened bags hanging eventually to the woman's crotch attractive?!! Really?!!! I mean, REALLY?!!!
I personally love little bobbies. Just sayin'.
Gabby Abby, wow thanks for the high praise. Glad you got a chuckle out of it. As soon as I heard about the "blessing" at VS, I knew I was going to have write about it.

Leeandra, okay, and I'll see you and call you finding one where the top doesn't cave in on you, padded or not. We both have our issues with the "girls." :-)

jimmymac, thanks for reading.

Anne, very true....

Soap Box, didn't mean to set you off again. Just trying to inject a little humor into a wish for something slightly larger than an A cup. Not wishing for a Pamela Anderson pair.

Cap'n Parrotdead, good to know there are a few of you guys out there. :-)
Ever the heretic, I shall just say "TMI" and rate your post.
OK, I'm not shy, I'll wade in here. This is a subject I've actually wanted to write about: the horrors of a father taking his two daughters shopping for lingerie. My least favorite feeling in the world is standing outside the dressing room by myself, among all the bras and panties, and trying not to look like I should be handing out candy to little girls in the park. Good times.
I have a feeling we'd be unhappy with them no matter which size we got. Or some of us. I admire the women who aren't concerned with such things. One day I will be one of them. But not today.
as for the double d push up bra* Usually if they are that big, a push up bra can help lift them to where they are suppose to be or help with support. A lot of my more busty friends say that all they can find is an ugly minimizer which make it so that blessed, plus sized, etc. women have to cover it all up and be "a" sexual. Honestly with C boobs, I can tell you, push up bras help bring up the girls to where they were suppose to be and help with back pain. I love all of mine.
Your secret with Victoria is out now, and it is dee-lightuful ! Thank you for sharing it, a wonderful read that was. R.
Walter, point taken. I actually would prefer my kids don't read this one. :-)

Cranky, well, we've already talked about this. I think you should post about your experience.

Bellwether, I think I've given up thinking that day will ever come. I'll settled into a state of comfortable kvetching about it. :-)

Peanutbutterpretzels, I said in an earlier response that a little opposing force to gravity is a good thing, no matter your size. I'll give you that.
FusunA, thanks!
Oh God, I loved this. A+ (as in wonderful.
A boy I lusted after all through high school ruined my image of my own 32A bust after he joked, "lou, you have what every pirate dreams of....a sunken chest"!
but now, I'm the biggest fan of itty bitty titties, especially my own!
R!
sueinaz, thank you!

angelou, oh yeah, I remember those days. I was disappointed recently to learn that even Kate Hudson (Goldie Hawn's daughter) had caved, so to speak, and had implants.
Of all the body image problems I've had over the years (and I've had my share), the fact that I'm a 36A has NEVER been one of them. I'm pretty athletic and was astonished, during my days teaching aerobics in SoCal, how many instructors would get ginormous implants and then have to wear 3 sports bras to support them. WTF? Running or bouncing around in an aerobics studio is MUCH easier when you are on the small side...
And I never felt bad when a man said he liked my little boobies. I believe them. I've never felt like I didn't deliver on my end just because they're small... hey, they're still boobs, right?

The one problem I have is... I can't wear pushup bras or the ones that give you great cleavage because... um... they're too far apart....
Oh, DensieW, I hear ya!

Add to the pile of hate those cosmetics ads that always show a beautiful woman that could wash her face with sh..I mean, dirt, and still look beautiful. Then they have the nerve to say that if you slap that $75 an ounce cream on your face you'll look just like her.
Genetics is b...

And this was funny as heck.
Great story! That man did have a flaw: he didn't know beauty when he saw it! xox
My favorite subject! It's good to be a mammal!
Me too, but who cares? By the time I was 14 I was glad of it. :)
r
Tee hee! Loved it! And I can't even shop in Victoria's Secret for a "cup" bra because they are ALL too big! Never had a boy call mine "boobs." In the heat of passion, it's inevitably "boobies," which is always hilarious. But I DO get to date younger men. Wouldn't change it for the world. :-)
Rated because my small-chested mother could never understand why I didn't capitalize on my larger "assets."

She said it was a shame I didn't become a cheerleader-and she also liked to see me in a bathing suit.

But as someone mentioned above, you really need to be careful about how clothes fit if you don't want to look pregnant. Even though I am slender, if I wear those loose, flowing tops that are so popular now (and look like maternity clothes) then people might ask when my due date is... And the recent trend is to have tops so clingy that you attract all the wrong kind of attention at work...you have to walk a fine line...
So long as my clothes are comfortable and modest, I don't care about advertising what I don't consider to be my main attractions. I'm athletic and being small makes that more comfortable for me. Size has nothing to do with function. (both genders)
sciencechick, wonderful that you're content with your "blessing." I always thought that if it was just more in proportion from top to bottom, I might be more accepting. But, we'll never know.

Vanessa, thanks. Yes, the boobie issue is just the tip of the iceberg, so to speak. :-)

Robin, well, it didn't seem to slow him down. Just dampened my enthusiasm a bit!

Fred, that is after all their original function, as in mammary glands!

Maureenow, wow, acceptance at such an early age. I'm impressed. I think I was still praying for a sudden growth spurt.

Moistowlette, I think I'm sensing an untapped market here--VS bras for small breasted women. We could make a fortune!

Margaretinhongkong, I guess it's difficult to fully appreciate either "condition" unless you've lived with it. Advantages and disadvantages to both.

geezerchick, maybe it all comes down to perception--both from yourself and from others.
Big boobies are way overrated in my opinion. WAY overrated. Give me a gal that accepts herself over one that is constantly trying to alter herself any day of the week.