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NOVEMBER 24, 2012 8:20PM

Thoughts on the abandonement of OS by some

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We are coming close to a week since a large group of bloggers left Open Salon for Our Salon for a month or for eternity (most likely the latter).

Looking at Alan's post which has as its subject matter, Applying for a job at Open Salon, I am reminded of what some people talk about after a romantic break up, when I look at some of the comments.

 

From a web site about dissing ex-girlfriends:

"Message to my ex: Roses are red, violets are blue, so glad I finally realized I'm better off without you!"

 

JOB 

 

It's somewhat ironic that the site that brought everybody together (Open Salon) would be continue to be the subject of discussion (and in some cases, dissing) by a number of former bloggers at their new web site.

For a musical wind up to this post I have "After The Love Has Gone" performed by Earth, Wind & Fire. The first version with Maurice White and the second version with Bill Champlin of Chicago (Bill co-wrote the song with several others):

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I applied for the position too(well, not really, I sent them a letter of intent to maybe intend to apply for the job!! :D)

I only hurt the ones I really love!!!
What is befuddling me is the bloggers that log in here to just rate the spam and get it into the feed. What's the point?
I hope you and Tink BOTH get the job!

;-)
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One and only one reason anyone left, it took me five tries to read and comment on this one post. I would have never left OS and continue to occasionally try to read the few left. This piqued my interest so I persisted. Why must there be a competition? People left because it's unusable. Many have found the new site great and never think of going back, use the photo functions, the chat, the music chat, and enjoy the total functionality of the site without mention of OS at all. Some come and go.All good right?
It all good, I'm over there now. HI!! :D

I rate the spam because I can!! No wait, I just call them donkey f*ckers!! :D
it turns out that I'm on the outskirts here or there. No difference just hand waving followed by a sea of quiet. :)
such are the pros and cons of hitchhiking
the gravy is lumpy and I must be dreaming
here standing on the leading edge
drowning in error ... ingest much helium!
Publishing houses have editors & the function of editors is to communicate with writers.
Open Salon's editor hasn't said a single thing to anyone in over a month.

Given the issues, why anyone would stay is a mystery. Click Most Recent. It's all spam. This site is defunct.
That comment took more than six minutes to load, and ended with an Errors page.

At the risk of restating the obvious, the management here no longer cares. The 'editor' has changed the Front Page precisely once, in 30 days. There are still pre-election posts on the Front Page.

I've been here 3 years, and had a wonderful time ~ made some good friends.

When it takes that long to wade through error messages or to wait until a simple comment loads, you've got to ask yourself : Is this worth it ?
Good analogy. Leaving OS is like leaving someone you've quit being able to have a conversation with, and, after years of bad communication, you finally say "what's the point?"
I really really hope OS can and will make back-
I check in here daily, but Rita points out quite clearly what has happened

I do not want OS to go dark,
but neither do I want to wake up one morning
and find that my posts from the last 3 years have just vanished into the cloud.
I hope that we can keep both the community and the site

but i'm keeping my place on the lifeboat while the "crew" fiddles with OS's engines. Shouls it "sink" I would love to see you all find your way over to the lifeboat

http://oursalon.ning.com/profiles/blogs/it-s-turtles-all-the-way-down
One of the greatest Internet forums ever was ABUZZ...hosted by the New York Times and the Boston Globe. At some point, it started to fizzle. It died a long, slow, lingering death...with most of the people eventually going to another site as a group.

These sites are not profit centers...and since they are not, they often get the kind of neglect going on here.

The "protest" most likely will not have more impact than the carping many of us have done. But hoping that a favorite site will somehow begin to flourish again...and having it actually happen...are two different things.

I think OS is done, but as I did with ABUZZ, I'm sticking with it 'til the end.

My best wishes for the people who have left...and I can understand the resentment some of them feel...and the need they have to present it.

Perhaps, when this site is truly dead and cold, I'll go over to Our Salon.
Tink, Phyllis, Sky, Rita, Dolores, Dr. Z, Kim, Sirenita, Herr Rudolfus, thanks for all of your great comments and for taking the time to stop by given the slow page load times, etc.! I find agreement with all that's been said here and continue to send positive vibes to Salon for a dramatic turn around here!
Frank, I was just commenting when your wonderful comment was also be posted, too. I'll be interested to see what happens with the new position of site moderator and spam killer for both Big Salon and Open Salon. A tall order to keep up with two sites let alone one. Great to see you're still here, too!
Here's the ad as seen on the Salon web site:

Site Moderator for Open Salon and Salon.com

With an audience of 12 million monthly unique visitors, Salon.com covers breaking news, politics, culture, technology and entertainment through investigative reporting, fearless commentary and criticism, and provocative personal essays. Salon.com has been a leader in online media since the dawn of the digital age and has bureaus in San Francisco and New York. Its award-winning staff of writers includes prominent political columnists Joan Walsh, Steve Kornacki (co-host of MSNBC’s “The Cycle”) and Alex Pareene, as well as cultural critics Andrew O’Hehir, Laura Miller and Mary Elizabeth Williams.

In addition to more traditional News, Politics, Entertainment and Life pages, Salon.com also features a hybrid social networking and blogging site called Open Salon (open.salon.com). Open offers devoted readers of the website the opportunity to write their own essays and stories, which are then compiled into a daily publication. The strongest pieces are shepherded to the website proper, where they’re typically featured in our Life section and homepage.

Both Salon.com and Open Salon encourage robust discussion, the latter site giving its users the chance not only to comment on fellow bloggers’ posts but to rate them as well. Because our readership is so passionate, however, this discourse can occasionally veer off track. This is where you come in.

Salon.com is looking for a moderator to make sure our reader responses remain healthy and germane. Primary responsibilities include deleting spam content that appears across the two sites and monitoring the comment sections for overtly inappropriate material — hate speech targeting a specific group, needlessly provocative responses (good old-fashioned trolling), advertising for third-party sites, copyrighted materials and all other manner of spam.

The moderator will work hand in hand with our editorial staff, namely the editor of Open Salon, as well as more technical project managers from our production team. Candidates should possess excellent communication skills, patience for our thoughtful, demanding and (very occasionally) cranky readership, as well as a healthy interest in the content both sites produce.

Because our publications live online, our moderator will be able to work via remote access from a location of his or her choosing. Applicants should submit their resumes to moderator@salon.com.

We look forward to hearing from you!
I hadn't been around in quite some time and came in to fire off a political rant. The cover hasn't been updated in weeks, the site is slow, and it constantly times out and shows me a bunch of errors. I am not sure what's really left of the place these days. It certainly does not appear to be nearly as robust as it once was, which is rather sad in a way. I haven't time for much recreational blogging, but it would be nice to have a workable site for intermittent postings ...
Gwool, thanks for your thoughtful comment! Whereas I have been logging in everyday this year, I know this place looks so different currently and devoid of a lot of activity to anyone who hasn't checked it out in the past two weeks. Here's to a better working site soon that will once again become a blogging beehive of activity!
I think a lot can be read into ( from the Salon ad ) : Primary responsibilities include deleting spam content ...

There are no such concerns at Our Salon, and it too is a free site.
The benefits, for me, include instant access, hassle-free navigation, a hands-on management with friendly communication skills, and the fact that whatever I post on Our Salon is not OWNED by a parent company.

It costs Lorianne less than $1000 a year to host Our Salon ( but countless unpaid hours managing it ... )
The fact that Open is receiving advertising revenue from seven continents ( mine today, in Australia, is a Subway ad ) but won't address its technical issues, speaks to what the site has become.

It's become another advertising vehicle.
I'm impressed that some faithful folk continue to post here.
So many have such fond memories ... of what once was such a vital site.

I have seen the future, and it's name is Jake Sugarman.
( If this were Our Salon I could edit the apostrophe from it's, in that comment.)
John - it's amazing that navel gazing can be turned into a group activity. You need time to create, seek out others' work, and say a polite "how do" every now and then. This concentration on cliques and process is worse than a toothache.

I'm going to go think of something that might interest more than four people.

"Is it safe?"
John - it's amazing that navel gazing can be turned into a group activity. You need time to create, seek out others' work, and say a polite "how do" every now and then. This concentration on cliques and process is worse than a toothache.

I'm going to go think of something that might interest more than four people.

"Is it safe?"
John - it's amazing that navel gazing can be turned into a group activity. You need time to create, seek out others' work, and say a polite "how do" every now and then. This concentration on cliques and process is worse than a toothache.

I'm going to go think of something that might interest more than four people.

"Is it safe?"
John - it's amazing that navel gazing can be turned into a group activity. You need time to create, seek out others' work, and say a polite "how do" every now and then. This concentration on cliques and process is worse than a toothache.

I'm going to go think of something that might interest more than four people.

"Is it safe?"
John - it's amazing that navel gazing can be turned into a group activity. You need time to create, seek out others' work, and say a polite "how do" every now and then. This concentration on cliques and process is worse than a toothache.

I'm going to go think of something that might interest more than four people.

"Is it safe?"
D, my computers in the shop for a week, but I was going to join in on the walk-0ut or whatever it is anyway. I really miss this place and all the friends that didn't leave. But, nothing is worth trying to log into this pace all day. I think it will work out, at least I hope so.
After reading a number of comments I am somewhat relieved to know that my experience has not been singular. It is not the bloggers who have abandoned Open Salon but the staff and editors. A job at Open Salon? Really? I was convinced no one worked here for the system, as many report, is replete with problems.
I think being a professional spam killer could have its perks. "Honey, I'm home!" "Hi Sweetums, what'd you do all day?" "Just killed me some spam and kept 12 million monthly unique visitors happy. What's for dinner?"
I have always loved this place. I am not on the other channel but judos to Lorraine who works her ass off. I still come to diddle daddle but it took me all day to get on here. Tis a sad affair.
HUGGGGGGGGGGG
I am sad Open Salon isn't working out apparently. I have not been active much lately beecause of health issues which periodically keep me offline. I like the idea of Open Salon and I will continue to use it but I think I will take a look at the alternative as well. I have no aspersions to cast or stones to throw but it does take a long time to log in sometimes! Best to all...
I love OS. I also love that a lot of people have also joined Our Salon in an effort to preserve the relationships developed here, in the event OS goes dark. Some have left OS forever. That makes me feel just... not good, but I understand. I too have experienced difficulty logging on to OS to comment or post. Often it is impossible.

I hope the search for moderators is fruitful and that the garden of OS will bloom once again! Okay, that was cheesy, but you know what I mean..
I still log in here every day, although usually while I'm doing something else on account of the incessant IT problems. I hope someday it'll get fixed because it's been such a great launch platform for so many first-time writers.

I will put two more things on here, if I can. One on the fourth anniversary of my joining and one, a repost, on Christmas Eve.