Perils of Divorced Pauline

The Names Have Been Changed, But the Story Is True

divorcedpauline

divorcedpauline
Location
USA
Birthday
April 05
Bio
World-class gnarly divorce survivor. Custody Battle blogger with a sense of humor. Mom. Wife. Cat-Lover. Visit me at www.perilsofdivorcedpauline.com or on Twitter @divorcedpauline.

MY RECENT POSTS

JANUARY 11, 2012 12:36AM

Is Your Blog Stalked by Trolls? Here's Why

Rate: 26 Flag

I belong to a group of mom bloggers and it is not uncommon for one of us to Facebook the rest of us and ask for "nice comments" on a post to offset the vitriol being vomited upon the comment section by trolls.

Not sure what trolls are? They're those shadowy internet lurkers who visit blogs seemingly with the sole intention of shredding the blogger. They take issue with the content, the POV, the writing style, sometimes even the gender of the writer. From a mere 1000 words or so, they assign twisted personality traits to the blogger and use the anonymity of the commenting forum to eviscerate a stranger.

Is this troll lurking on your blog?

They especially love to attack bloggers for expressing strong opinions on, God forbid, their own blogs! Here's a love note Elizabeth Aquino received on her blog, a moon, worn as if it had been a shell:

"Elizabeth, I’m not in a position to judge your 'niceness.' But from your articles I can discern very clearly that you are a self-obsessed, self-absorbed, self-interested, narrow minded person. That is, if the case doesn’t assist Elizabeth in some way or improve Elizabeth’s lot in some fashion, Elizabeth isn’t interested in it. "

It's worth  mentioning that, despite her self-absorption and narrow-mindedness, Elizabeth raises three kids, one of whom has a severe seizure disorder.

An example from my own blogging life: in response to my essay that ran in Salon in March 2011, various trolls diagnosed me with an "Axis II personality disorder," accused me of being a "divorced vaginate" and a "horrible mother" and urged me to get "non-supportive, challenging therapy."

I'm confident about my writing, and I know, after a few cyber-public floggings, to brace myself before I scan the comment thread, but still. Watching people who don't even know you stomp all over your integrity can leave you feeling like a frail kid cornered by schoolyard bullies.

What is it about cyberspace that makes some commenters feel they have the right to rip a blogger into teeny-tiny pieces? I'm not talking about those engaging in critical thinking, or respectfully disagreeing, or inviting civil dialogue. I'm all for that.

I'm talking about rabid, mad-dog commenters who hurl vicious, sadistic barbs at bloggers. Or trolls who stand atop their high, sanctimonious horses issuing judgments -- judgments like these, received by my friend Jenny Heitz on her hilariously spot-on Beyond the Brochure post "Perfect Mommy Syndrome."

"Sounds to me like you're feeling guilty about your choices after seeing parents who might be making better ones. Maybe if you were confident in the way you're parenting your children, you wouldn't even notice what everyone else is doing.... A little soul-searching might be in order to figure out what the REAL issue is."

Now, even if you did have some "soul-searching" to do, would snide spitballs spur your motivation?

The Psychology of Cyberspace

John Suler, a psychology professor at Rider University, has written extensively about the psychology of cyberspace in his online book called just that:  Psychology of Cyberspace. Drawing from psychoanalytic theory and other psychological orientations, Suler breaks down the reasons why cyberspace invites conflict and what kinds of people and circumstances stir the maelstrom.

Suler believes that cyberspace is a "psychological extension" of a person's internal landscape. Hours spent online trigger unfinished business and subconscious processes "that can alter sensory experience and can even create a dream-like state of mind."

Suler has some interesting theories linking certain personality types with certain online behaviors. For instance:

- Do antisocial personalities exploit the wild west quality of the internet in order to hack?

- Do narcissists use the internet to gather throngs of admirers?

- Do dissociative people use the internet to create multiple online personalities?

- Do compulsives use the internet as a means to gain control over their lives?

- Do histrionic people see the internet as a forum for theatrical displays in order to get attention?

I'm a PhD or two short of being able to to grasp fully the more nuanced concepts of Suler's theories -- stuff about transferring unfinished business with parents on to the computer itself, which is then exacerbated by transferring unfinished business onto blog posts -- but I think I can adequately convey a few of his basic ideas.

The Disinhibition Effect

Online, people feel less inhibited and more able to express themselves. This can lead to "benign disinhibition," in which people display acts of generosity, for example, sending prayers or even donations to those afflicted by terminal illnesses.

But the kind of disinhibition I'm exploring in this post is the toxic kind, what Suler refers to as "simply a blind catharsis, an acting out of unsavory needs and wishes without any personal growth at all."

My blogging friend Lori Day, perhaps one of the most genteel and refined voices in the blogosphere, shares two of the particularly egregious comments she has received: "Lori, you c**nt," and "wake up from your gynocentric stupor."

I ask you: does calling a woman a c**t invite conversation or shut it down?

How Does Calling a Blogger a C**nt Happen?

The "you don't know me" quality of the internet allows people to dissociate, to separate their words from who they are. "When acting out hostile feelings," writes Suler, "the person doesn't have to take responsibility for those actions. In fact, people might even convince themselves that those behaviors 'aren't me at all.'"

I Can't Tell My Boss To Go F**k himself, So I'll Tell You

Suler explains that the internet levels the playing field. Regardless of social status, race, and gender, everyone has a voice. It's not easy standing up to an authority figure, and if you want to keep your job, you'd better mince your words. But online, says Suler, authority is "minimized. People are much more willing to speak out or misbehave." Combine this with someone who grew up silenced by an oppressive or abusive parent, and the potential for unbridled trolliness soars.

Of course, if you want your insults to be taken seriously, be sure to check your spelling. My blogger friend William Quincey Belle devoted a post to the troll who responded to one of his posts with "Your an idiot."

Personality Types

Suler states that certain personality types vary in their tendencies towards inhibition or expression. "People with histrionic styles tend to be very open and emotional. Compulsive people are more restrained." Suler explains that the disinhibition effect interacts with personality variables, creating an online behavior pattern that is more exaggerated than one's offline behavior.

The type well known to all of us who hang out on blog comment threads is the "oppositional personality." These are the people who take issue with virtually anything that is written. "They struggle with underlying feelings of hostility that can be expressed passively or indirectly, via the act of disagreeing," writes Suler. "They may also need to oppose others as a way to firm up their somewhat fragile identity or to boost self-esteem by proving themselves right and others mistaken."

May I give you an example? From a Beyond the Brochure mommy troll to another commenter (when trolls are not sated after chomping on the writer, they go after their fellow commenters):

"How much did you research your CHOICE to inject toxins in your child's blood veins? Trust me I know WAY MORE on the topic than you do! So yeah, I am a better parent if I took the time to research fully and not just take doctors (who are human and failable -- um, that would be fallible, Madam Troll-- and many are just as ignorant and ill informed as many parents they are leading on) on their word seeing as they have the pharmaceutical reps in their back pocket! 
And what do you know about homeschool? Except that you would be a terrible homeschooling parent.

Get a life lady, you have no clue about the world around you!"

Oh, what fun to be on the Hot Lunch Committee with her!

Dangerous Trolls

Suler states that oppositional types are drawn to the "intellectually contentious atmosphere" of online discussion. And in a chaotic, unmonitored environment where it's impossible to read facial expressions or hear tone-of-voice, oppositional tendencies may ramp up.

While insult-hurlers are merely obnoxious, trolls who threaten may actually be sociopathic. I was stunned to read an article in The Guardian reporting on women writers who routinely receive rape and death threats from commenters. Several female journalists have gone public with the outrageous threats they have received in an attempt to get online discussion moderators to establish stricter commenting policies and boot those who are being abusive.

So How Do We All Just Get Along?

Psychotherapist Kali Munro offers tips to resolve conflict online. Here are some of them:

Don't respond right away

Squelch that urge to fire back a response setting the troll straight. Wait 24 hours before responding.

Read the post again later

Sometimes your first reaction is colored by how you're feeling at the time. Read it later and see if it could have been written with a different tone from the one you originally heard.

Choose whether or not you want to respond

If the post is inflammatory and the person appears to be a bully, the best strategy is to ignore him/her.

Use "I statements"

Anyone who's been in couples therapy knows how to do this one: "I feel vs. "You did blahblah..."

Choose your words carefully

Because the person can't see you and must rely entirely on what you've written, choose your words carefully. Imagine how the other person might "hear" what you say.

Start and end your post with validating statements

This one doesn't need explaining.

My New Commenting Policy

While I cannot control the comment threads on other sites that run my pieces, I can control them on this site, and writing this post has spurred me to do just that. So here are my guidelines:

1. This blog contains subject matter related to divorce and custody issues, two hot-button topics that may trigger some people. If you feel that divorce is just plain wrong, and that all divorced people are low-life vermin, you are kindly invited to go elsewhere.

2. Please keep your comments civil. Respectful disagreement and intelligent debate are fine, but remarks that are abusive and accusatory are not, and will be deleted.

3. Spelling and punctuation corrections are welcome.

One thing about most of my commenters: they are a smart, articulate, and well-mannered lot. I value all of you, my wonderful blogging and commenting community, more than I can say.

But you never know who may be lying in wait...

You're headed straight for the Trash, fella

Your tags:

TIP:

Enter the amount, and click "Tip" to submit!
Recipient's email address:
Personal message (optional):

Your email address:

Comments

Type your comment below:
Thanks for the synopsis of the book. Very thought-provoking!

I just figure there are a lot of passive-aggressive types out there who have a lot of vitriol bottled up, for whatever reason.

If comments get nasty (I've not had that problem, but then I don't post much) at least at OS we can always delete.
A wonderful piece! In general, trolls are a subhuman species to be avoided at every opportunity.
Wow Now I see another whole level to this that I never had thought of...
Sista! This is going straight to FB!

You go girl! (Or is it, "You go, girl!"
I am sorry, I can't read the whole thing because of my eyes, but what I did read is fascinating stuff. I had a spate of trolls when i set up blogs on newspapers and wrote about politics. I was trashed by these hateful people. This happened somwhat on Facebook, but I discontinued FB because I find OS blogging so much more fulfilling...
This is a great helper Post.
Keeper.
Send to Michelle Obama etc.,
Sam Kass. . .
I heard the author interview.
I like the woman who wrote:
Title of the book`The Obamas.
I took note but got a tummy ache.
Now, I am getting a headache.
It's not your fault. It home-brew.
I forget the name of the woman.
The notes are in my P.U. truck.
The author has a pleasant voice.
Glad you decided to post on OS as well. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Brava!
Well done and much-needed post! I have made the mistake of responding to some trolls in the past and that seemed to only incite them to further abuse. At a certain point, it is best to stop responding, and/or as you said, delete their comments. Rated.
Very interesting. I haven't read Suler's book, but I found myself nodding in agreement. Trolls simultaneously anger and intrigue me: I feel like anyone who is spending time and energy being aggressive - be it in real-life or online - obviously has some complex issues and unresolved problems in his or her own life. Here on OS I've had a few aggressive, negative comments, and I see them as a challenge. I try to respond kindly but at the same time, zing the troll. In doing this, I hope the person will stop and think before trolling the next time. Of course, I know some people will continue to troll, no matter what. It may even be therapeutic for them. Ultimately, I just feel bad for people who waste their time and energy on such negative behavior.

Thank you for another great post, and some excellent advice, as well!
I can’t speak for all trolls but I enjoy the “intellectually contentious atmosphere” in cyberspace. The only other site I frequent is the WSJ and although the comment section is intellectually stimulating it, feels more like a group hug, and that’s boring. Sure, there is the occasional Troll on the WSJ, but they usually get humbled before I get to say my two cents.

With the exception of Paul O’Rourke and Jonathan Wolfman’s blogs, Open Salon is one of the few liberal leaning websites that doesn’t systematically delete comments by trolls. It truly is “open” and provides me the opportunity to keep fighting the good fight.
This was an enlightening and amusing read - very informative and thought provoking. I think that some trolls are the same people who have to wear hoods and swastikas in order to feel strong and powerful...there is something about being anonymous that can bring out the worst in people...then on the other hand, you have people who put themselves on Reality TV where everyone can see them in order to let the worst side of their nature show!! Well done!
The most dangerous trolls are those that sneak up on you, establish some rapport, or what appears to be rapport. Then, out of the blue they drop a bomb on you. Total strangers in this context to me are like monkeys in the zoo, the ones they keep behind glass because they love to hurl their feces. No point in spending any time with them.
Thank you all for your comments. I posted this yesterday on my personal blog site and it did generate a lot of traffic, more than most of my other posts. Those commenters felt the same as all of you, that trolls are a troubled lot. It's too bad that we bloggers have to deal with unnecessary assault. Clearly, by the amount of people who relate to and have responded to this topic, troll attacks are an occupational hazard.
People always attack when they feel threatened, simple as that. Some are threatend by truth, some by lies. Read the Gospels for therapy on this. They trolled the fuck out of Jesus.
Baltimore: I was trying to distinguish those who respectfully offer different points-of-view with those who hurl personal attacks at writers who have different points-of-view. Those are very different personality types. For instance, the commenter quoted above is anti-vaccination, which is fine. What's not fine is her grossly abusive attack on another commenter who is pro-vaccination. It's the lack of empathy, of awareness that people are entitled to different points-of-view and the belief that skewering the character of someone who believes something different is justified, that's disturbing.
My experience of trolls relates directly to the circumstances in which I found myself (9/11 widow) and the fact that I spoke or wrote about it for a time.) I don't write on those subjects anymore but trolls still find their way to my door. I'd like to say they don't bother me as much but I suspect they've had an inhibiting effect on my blogging--and I can't tell you how much that pisses me off. I'm growing a MUCH thicker skin in 2012 in advance of a new book and blog--I'll need it.

Thanks for this smart, thoughtful essay.
This is really interesting and I may take the time to read that book you referenced. I had always thought trolls were just mean people with axes to grind. It never occurred to me they might be pathological. Although, why not? Sociopaths and mentally ill people are a percentage of the population. Of course they could use online communities to attempt to control others and validate themselves.
PS I liked you pix. I wouldn't want to meet either of those guys under a bridge! :-)
PPS just shared to FB!
Wonderful post and it's about time someone addresses this in this level of detail. I've noticed that angry commenters seem to rear their ugly heads at posts which expose our most human sides. I am always so shocked by comments which seem to poke and prod at those moments of insecurity, unsureness or personal wrongdoing which I choose to write about, knowing full well that I am merely a human being - full of character flaws, issues and biases. Trolls seem to not comprehend that these things make us all equal and should not be stomped upon or used as the noose to hang the author.
Thank you, Pauline. You addressed this very articulately. I follow Thomas Jefferson's words in such cases as well as in life:

""Nothing gives one person so much advantage over another as to remain always cool and unruffled under all circumstances."

Rated♥
Excellent points, Pauline. I think that online commenting allows us to remove our filters, and for some people that is not a good thing. I had a tour of the US Capitol office buildings once, and met a staffer from some representative or other. He said they always, always replied to paper written letters, because they tended to be more civil, more well thought out, and more articulate. People take time with written paper letters, think about what they're going to say and how they will say it. Online, people blow off steam and belt out the first thought that comes to mind.

This staffer also said that they only replied to about 1 in 5 emails with a personal response, because of exactly these issues.

Excellent points. Maybe trolls need more bridges to hide under.
Great story. I am with those who say that the best way to make a bad day for a troll is to just ignore them (unless they are truly dangerous, and then you report them). There are more than a few of them on Open Salon, notwithstanding some of their attactive avatars.
iF U wANt to seA the eVollutION of deFIning so=CaLLed tROLLs gO 2 jOnaTHan woLFmaN"s laTESt bloG tiTLEd Lesbian Moms and the Welfare of Children

tHe aUThor pRoClameS soMEthInG tHat is unSUBstaNtiAteD as a fAct

twO coMMenTerS challEnGe JoNNie"s assERtiOn suGGeStinG thAT thE reSeRCh stUdy is fLaWed. tHE bLOg auTHuR anD soME pro-pOSItion coMMeNTeRs diSpuTE anD tHeN deLEte aNY conTRaReAn coMMeNteRs whO R suRELY laBELLed tROLLs nOW.

sO mUSt wE alWAys emBRaCe thE bLoG auTHur"s poSItiON tO aVOid beInG caLLeD tROLLs?
I think you're great and I'm sorry you've been beset upon by trolls. I will never understand why some people get joy from writing mean things to other people they don't know.
As my name was mentioned, allow me to respond...

I will delete trolls depending on their "trolliness." I can tolerate stupid comments done once, ridiculed once, but the serial idiots demand a tax on my time that I'm not willing to pay.

In the case of Johnny Fever, we have a serial idiot -- I use the word in its original Greek meaning of "one too stupid to participate in politics" -- whose politics are on an adolescent "what Mom and Dad-as-the-RNC tell me" level. This is bad enough, but the kicker is Fever tends to preface his most stupid statements with the assertion he's educating somebody, which, by implication, is to elevate his ignorance above others knowledge. After discrediting himself with one glaring factual or logical error, he trolls on "as if" his credibility can be restored by repetition.

As much as others enjoy watching me reintroduce a fool to his natural habitat, it can get tedious, so I booted Fever off of my blog. If I wanted to relive my HS sophomore year of demolishing political simpletons, Fever would be the first one I'd invite to comment.

I told Fever, at least twice, that his problem isn't so much that he has no thoughts of his own, or that he's a cut-n'-paste GOP slogan-slinger. His problem is he's aggressively idiotic, has no sense of even pseudo-intellectual shame, so doesn't know when to shut up.

There are plenty of people who will engage Fever "as if" he's a worthy adversary, and it's in that battle of base rookie politics where he should wield the awesome power of his extremely dull butter knife.

In his defense, if you, like I, sometimes enjoy watching the orphaning of reason, abandonment of logic and scarcity of knowledge by somebody comically convinced he possesses all 3 in abundance, Fever puts on one hell of a show.
I have to admit Im laughing at some of this. ""wake up from your gynocentric stupor." "I ask you: does calling a woman a c**t invite conversation or shut it down?"
well if the woman truly is in some "gynocentric stupor", then no, not even a rude comment is gonna wake her up, is it?
all excellent points but on the other hand, if you just want your commenters to agree with you, thats clearly a narcissistic attitude, isnt it? what about a post where you say, "take the grain of truth in everything people say"? I dont really hear you saying that. I hear you saying, "if people say something in a way that offends me, the content of their message is irrelevant". which reminds me of one of my favorite quotes by wm james, early psychologist. "a great many ppl think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices."
the converse of crazy commenters is kinda crazy bloggers. yrs ago when I first started blogging here I think I did meet a blogger on here "KR" that had a pretty strong case of histrionic personality disorder. now, it wasnt very wise to interact with this woman, but no, it wasnt obvious from the start... it seemed like a game at first that sort of spiralled out of control. the thing was, she was actually a very colorful blogger! imagine that! maybe the ones with the personality disorders in fact make the best writers haha. seriously, how many famous writers probably had real psychology disorders? it would be very interesting to make that list.
I think also, bloggers should realize-- the more personal & intimate the details of their blogs, the more they are INVITING trolls. yeah, thats right. I mean, theres a intimacy level of various stories. one can write very intimately in a blog for an anonymous audience. & it may be cathartic for some. but I say thats what attracts the trolls. I think if you look at the blogs that have the most trollish comments, you will also generally find stuff in the blogs that evinced that trollery.
Go Johnny Fever!

I think people, not this author here, but some here at OS and other places too I'm sure, tend to call people "trolls" just because they disagree with them.

I also found it very amusing that Markinjapan once wrote a blog about me - at least what he thought I was - and asked a series of questions OF ME and then deleted all but one of my responses.

Johnny Fever makes some good points in my view. If you don't like them Paul, argue them. Of course you are free to delete them as well, but I hope if you do you are not someone who then complains when others delete YOUR comments.

Enjoy your debate guys.
I hate to potentially feed a troll, but I'm dying to ask --- what exactly is a "Vaginate"? I'm kinda loving that word.

"Introducing Empress Helena the 5th, Vaginate of the Eastern Islands!" - something like that? Magnate? Potentate?
Excellent.

I think the anonymity encourages the expression of what are usually hidden feelings, mainly involving jealousy or expressions of self-hatred that come out as hatred of just about everyone. I believe in ignoring it sometimes and calling someone a turd the other half of the time. And I delete at OS or close comments if I get tired of it. But, I'm amazed at some of the really vicious stuff. For example, while I don't really follow her often, Heather at dooce and her husband are going through what appears to be a divorce. While looking for something entirely different, I ran across a blog where the people there are rejoicing in this news and actually hoping the blogger kills herself. (She has a problem with chronic depression.) It's completely horrific. I was stunned by the joyous vicious cruelty, of wishing someone dead and their family sans a mother and wife. It was ... really stunningly disgusting. It made me sad for human beings, that some of us enjoy the pain of others.
Barbara, ChillerPop, and Odette: thank you for your comments. I'm curious, though, since this piece was posted two months ago, why there's a sudden spate of comments this morning. Anyone know why?
Hilariously, my guess is that it was Barbara, a person with whom I have nothing in common, and I could write something catty here but it would be too ironic, who found the post and reactivated it into the feed. I saw it there, read it and posted. :)

Good post.
I liked what Fusun said, the Jefferson quote about remaining cool and unruffled, which she did demonstrate in her recent birthday post, which involved some comments exchanging dark allegations and a history of hurt feelings that I know nothing about and refrain from making any judgement on.

But one thing that also needs to be said is that people should be very careful about investing too much emotion in Internet socializing. People don't (in most cases) really know each other the way you know people in person. If you allow yourself to be drawn in too far emotionally, if your interactions on the computer start to stand in for real-world social validation and emotional support, then you are vulnerable to an environment where people can too easily hurt one another and engage in deceit under the cover of anonymity.

What we learned as children, that words can never hurt us, remains true. I think it is wise to keep a stoic detachment regarding on-line interactions, so that anger, hostility, hatred, or vicious insults can roll off like water from a duck's back.

Trolls will never go away, but discounting their words from a detached point of view and ignoring them is probably the best way to deny them their reward if they strike. To respond is exactly what they are hoping for; it energizes them and validates their existence.
I thought I read this before.

After that Troll image I scared.

I may burp and hiccup in bed`gin.
I may turn the back porch light on.
I may order a frozen pizza pie too.
`
tease . . .
`
On Mom's front lawn. . .
elves, penguins, Baby Jesus
all in neon
`