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JUNE 5, 2009 7:12PM

Obama's Czars!

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What do all of the following people (see list below)  have in common? They are "czar's" in the Obama Administration.

What is a "czar" exactly? Wikipedia defines it this way:

Originally, the title Czar (derived from Caesar) meant Emperor in the European medieval sense of the term, that is, a ruler who claims the same rank as a Roman emperor, with the approval of another emperor or a supreme ecclesiastical official (the Pope or the Ecumenical Patriarch).

Occasionally, the word could be used to designate other, non-Christian, supreme rulers. In Russia and Bulgaria the imperial connotations of the term were blurred with time and, by the 19th century, it had come to be viewed as an equivalent of King.[2][3]

Now to be fair, Obama did not invent the position of czar in Washington. Many Presidents have had them. However, he appears to be on the verge of appointing yet ANOTHER czar to his already large family of czar's and in doing so will own the title of President with the Most Czar's. As stated in the Wall Street Journal yesterday:

 The Obama administration plans to appoint a "Special Master for Compensation" to ensure that companies receiving federal bailout funds are abiding by executive-pay guidelines, according to people familiar with the matter.

The administration is expected to name Kenneth Feinberg, who oversaw the federal government's compensation fund for victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, to act as a pay czar for the Treasury Department, these people said.

Make no mistake, he knows exactly what he is doing. This is a first-rate power grab by a power-hungry President. You see the great thing about czar's is that they operate with impunity and they are "under the radar" when it comes to making policy. They are accountable to nobody, except the administration.

So in effect we have NON-ELECTED officials, who are backed by The White House, who are given the tools and resources to do the bidding of the President and they are accountable to NO ONE! These czar's don't have to undergo Senate Confirmation Hearings, they just get appointed.

So as long as we are going to be serving all of these "kings" we should at least know who they are. In case we need to bow to them at some point. The following is a list of Obama's Czar's/Kings:

Energy czar Carol Browner

Urban czar Adolfo Carrion, Jr.

Infotech czar Vivek Kundra

Faith-based czar Joshua DuBois

Health reform czar Nancy-Ann DeParle

New TARP czar Herb Allison

Stimulus accountability czar Earl Devaney

Non-proliferation czar Gary Samore

Terrorism (I thought they didn't use that word) czar John Brennan

Regulatory czar Cass Sunstein

Drug czar Gil Kerlikowske

Guantanamo closure czar Daniel Fried.

So there you have it. Obama's Kings.

Does anyone know ANYTHING about these people? Guess what? That's the point. You don't know them so they are anonymous. It's easier to "get things done" when you are anonymous.

Anonymous, unaccountable, invisible.

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Are you proposing that Obama holds an election to decide who he employs? These people are obviously not anonymous - you just named them. You just keep topping yourself with idiocy. Good job.
Hmm, appointing qualified people to key administrative positions, in the expectation that they will execute policy and serve the nation. How... diabolical!
And by the way, a czar is an appointed official having special powers to regulate or supervise an activity. I got that definition from the dictionary - you should try using one.
You seem so fearful. I can't imagine you setting foot outside of your house. Everyone is out to get you.

Any President gets to appoint a lot of people. Did you know who all of Bush's appointees were? No, you didn't. Did it bother you? I'm guessing it didn't.

And, one last thing. You don't need to put an apostrophe in when you make a word plural. There is one "czar". There are many "czars". Sorry, but that one just drives me crazy.
"Does anyone know ANYTHING about these people? Guess what? That's the point. You don't know them so they are anonymous. It's easier to "get things done" when you are anonymous.

Anonymous, unaccountable, invisible."

first of all, just because you know nothing about these people doesn't mean they're anonymous, unaccountable, or invisible. they, their careers, and the legally created postions they hold are a matter of public record, so please stop acting so clueless. or maybe you're not acting?

more to the point, do you know ANYTHING about how government works? are you not aware that every single president we've ever had is legally entitled, no, REQUIRED actually, to appoint all sorts of people to do the things that need to be done to make the executive branch work? get a grip please djohn, and try writing a post for once that actually makes sense.
Carol Browner:
Time's 2 minute bio: http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1866567,00.html
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Browner
EPA: http://www.epa.gov/history/admin/agency/browner.htm

You might try Google.

Also, we should talk about apostrophes.
Adolfo Carrion, Jr.
Time 2-minute bio: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1880883,00.html
Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolfo_Carri%C3%B3n,_Jr.
New York Times: http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/c/adolfo_jr_carrion/index.html

No apostrophe is required for plural nouns. Czar (or tsar) is singular, and czars (or tsars) is plural. The apostrophe before the "s" denotes possession, as in the Tsar's appointment was made by Barack Obama in 2009; or it can be a contraction of "czar is" or "czar was," as in "The Czar's (or Tsar's) got excellent credentials which are well known and thoroughly reported in many national news outlets such as Time Magazine and The New York Times."

Sorry.
There is a question of the increasing use of "czars" to get around congressional oversight, which the Congress has abandoned any way. It is all bureaucracy now.
Don, I agree that is a legitimate concern. It has been a concern for years under any party's administration.
I covered this topic in my post: "American Czars are little caesars"; you can check it out on my site under my index.
I think using the word czar is objectionable.Why not call them Secretary. ( An official who presides over an administrative department of state.) American Heritage Dictionary.

I wish they would come up with something else to call them. It makes you feel like you are living in Russia no matter what they are doing. I don't like the fact that there are no checks and balances over so many people that are in charge of so much of our money as well

And to get picky with dictionary definitions...Djohn and Natalie, you are both right.
American Heritage Dictonary says:
czar (zär, tsär)
n.
1. also tsar or tzar (zär, tsär) A male monarch or emperor, especially one of the emperors who ruled Russia until the revolution of 1917.
2. A person having great power; an autocrat: "the square-jawed, ruddy complacency of Jack Farrell, the czar of the Fifteenth Street police station" (Ernest Hemingway).
3. Informal An appointed official having special powers to regulate or supervise an activity: a racetrack czar; an energy czar.
[Russian tsar', from Old Russian ts2sar2, emperor, king, from Old Church Slavonic ts-sar2, from Gothic kaisar, from Greek, from Latin Caesar, emperor; see caesar.]

In any case I feel it is too much bureaucracy. More Bureaucracy just ends up costing us more money. I understand delegation...and a certain amount of that is good, but perhaps some of that stuff doesn't need administrating...like Faith Based Czar...What is that about? Shouldn't government be staying out of that? And Anti proliferation Czar; why can't Hillary take care of that? Too much government alltogether for my taste.
Natalie, Rich, Jeanette, nanatehey, Leslie-Please put down the Kool-Aid. There needs to be enough to go around.

Sage-What I really find hilarious is that all of these people who protested the "evil" government in the "60's are now the same one's who endorse it's gigantic growth some 40 years later. LOL!
Natalie-"These people are obviously not anonymous - you just named them." Did you know who they were BERFORE I posted them here? Do you know who they are now? I thought so.
"put down the Kool-aid"

is that supposed to be an answer to the points people have raised here djohn? if you think it is you need to go back to thinkin' school my friend. you post this retarded screed which is based on nothing but your own ignorance and hypocrisy, then, when people who actually know how to think come and tear it apart, your best comeback is "put down the koolaid." you're a joke djohn, and what's worse you're a fool as well.
How exactly do you think you should have been educated about these people? I suppose you could have followed their careers, but chronicling the careers of people likely to be appointed or elected to a public position is likely to be a full time job and an unprofitable one at that. How do you suppose Obama found out about them? Do you think he's been watching their careers develop? Probably not. My guess is that he asked people in their areas of expertise who might be useful in these positions. He probably sought CVs and suggested meetings and interviews. He might have used the Internet, too.

These are people who have held positions in the public eye. You don't know them yet, but others do. That's how people get to be known. I don't see anything shady in this procedure.

Want to talk about why we need them at all?
Well then, thank you for giving me the names of a group of people I couldn't possibly care less about. You provide a valuable service here on OS.
And sage, thanks for that but I know what a czar is. Used in this instance, the word refers to a regulator or supervisor, not a ruler or emperor as defined by DJohn in his post.
Leslie-"Want to talk about why we need them at all?" Yes, that is what I am getting at. They need to be accountable. They are not.
nanatehey-"you're a joke djohn, and what's worse you're a fool as well." Classic. No intelligent argument to be made so why not resort to name calling. Don't you people get tired of the same, old tactics? (Yawn)
Write about that! It's a worthy topic.
here's the argument i made djohn, and please note there was no name-calling in it:

"first of all, just because you know nothing about these people doesn't mean they're anonymous, unaccountable, or invisible. they, their careers, and the legally created postions they hold are a matter of public record, so please stop acting so clueless. or maybe you're not acting?

more to the point, do you know ANYTHING about how government works? are you not aware that every single president we've ever had is legally entitled, no, REQUIRED actually, to appoint all sorts of people to do the things that need to be done to make the executive branch work? get a grip please djohn, and try writing a post for once that actually makes sense."

the only reply you made to that was to say "don't drink the Kool-aid."

so djohn, if you'd like to avoid being called a fool stop acting like one and answer what i said there. here's the thing though; you aren't CAPABLE of responding to what i said with anything better than an inanity about Kool-aid, which means you're a FOOL who posts shit that's is patently absurd then doesn't even have the ability to coherently defend his postion. fool is as fool does my friend.
Without Googling I can tell you two of the people. Browner was head of the EPA under Clinton and Kerlikowske was Chief of the Seattle Police Dept. (Where I live).

I've NEVER heard anyone complain about these positions until now. Bush created the Faith Based Czar.

Oh and by the way, if this story doesn't catch on, did you hear that Obama put Dijon mustard on a burger?
nana-name calling, name calling then profanity. Page 325 I believe right? LOL!
Roger-"I've NEVER heard anyone complain about these positions until now." Of course not, they are under the radar. Now we have a Pay Czar.

BTW, One thing I'm sure of is Obama doesn't want of this DJohn on his burger.
djohn, does the word "shit" offend your delicate sensibilities? maybe you should try writing something that isn't shittty, how about that for an idea? or better yet, since you STILL haven't done it yet, how about answering the points i raised in my first comment? are you capable of doing that or are you going to keep capering like an imbecile behind your clever little bon mots?
Nanatehay, with all due respect, your efforts are largely in vain.

This guys knows more about nothing and nothing about more things, than anyone I've ever known.

And as I've said before, he mixes 1/3 of his bullsh*t, 1/3 chickenshit, and 1/3 of chopped liver and thinks it's gourmet pate, wears a red, white, and blue jockstrap around his head and thinks its haute couture.
mark-"red, white, and blue jockstrap around his head " That is the second or third time you've spoken of a jockstrap around the ehad. You have some serious issues. My bet is YOU are the one who enjoys the jockstrap on the head.
nana-" do you know ANYTHING about how government works? are you not aware that every single president we've ever had is legally entitled, no, REQUIRED actually, to appoint all sorts of people to do the things that need to be done to make the executive branch work?"

Since you didn't READ the post I will address these here.

"Do you know ANYTHING about how government works?" Out of the two of us my friend I'm the only one who has actually WORKED for a President before. I've also worked in the Pentagon and know a great deal about "how government works" as you put it. I've been privy to information that you will never see and seen things that you could not imagine.

Are you not aware that every single president we've ever had is legally entitled, no, REQUIRED actually, to appoint all sorts of people to do the things that need to be done to make the executive branch work?" Yes. I am. This is what you would call his cabinet. Every President has one. Each of these individuals must be confirmed by the Senate and in effect makes them accountable to the people...that's US! However, these czars are NOT confirmed. They are appointed and usually report to a member of the cabinet. The "org chart" looks alot like that of the mafia. You have the Don at the TOP (Obama), His Caporegime (Cabinet Members) and then there are the soldiers (czars). They are well insulated and operate under the radar.

I hope this is clearer for you now. Here endeth the lesson.
Hey, "teacher," you forgot to take your jockstrap off.
HUGE number of ratings on this one, as usual, but the wannabee marine recruiter says he cares ye not about such things.

I read it in Leviticuss chapter 13 v69, when it talks about heathens and cretins.
I'd wager a plug nickel (you DO take that kind of currency, don't ya' I'd think a phony would just revel in phony money)

that your comments to ratings makes you the undisputed king of such stats, but you'd never know.

It takes you both hands to add two plus two and you still keep coming up with three.

Bet you're really really good at baseball stats, though.
mark-I think you've been hitting the mojo a little bit too hard. Step away from the bar.
as i'd expected, you answered my comment by not answering it at all; you've now fully earned the sobriquet of fool, so well done!

you write:

This is what you would call his cabinet. Every President has one. Each of these individuals must be confirmed by the Senate and in effect makes them accountable to the people...that's US! However, these czars are NOT confirmed. They are appointed and usually report to a member of the cabinet. The "org chart" looks alot like that of the mafia. You have the Don at the TOP (Obama), His Caporegime (Cabinet Members) and then there are the soldiers (czars). They are well insulated and operate under the radar.

"I hope this is clearer for you now. Here endeth the lesson"

with all due respect djohn, you're completely full of shit. or, to phrase it a different way, you're an obfuscator and a distorter of the truth. the executive branch, going back many administrations before obama, of course has many sub-cabinet level positions which are filled by appointment and which don't require congressional confirmation. so what? the doings of those appointees are only as "under the radar" as citizens here choose to let them be. your fevered comparison of them to the mafia, while dramatic sounding and worth a laugh, is bunk. as far as the term czar, which appears to offend you more by it's slavic nature than any rational reason you've named so far, it was first popularized by one of your heroes, ronnie ray-gun, when he used the term for the head of his ridiculous and self-defeating war on drugs.

you ideologically-driven, knee-jerk republican types are fascinating because of the blithe hypocrisy with which you bemoan things which are standard features of modern government and which you thought were just dandy as long as it was your team running things. you lost djohn; your man W drove this country to the brink of ruin, his ruinous policies are discredited, and all your type has left to do now is squeal about the imaginary ways obama is messing things up. i've got to admit though, the squeals are music to my ears, so i'm looking forward to more posts from you:)
nana-Where was the stock market and the national debt at BEFORE the Dems took control in 2004? W tried no less than 16 times to do something about Fannie and Freddie and was rebuffed each time by Reid and Pelosi. I never said that the GOP was innocent in any of this. You just implied that. What I said was Obama now has the distincion of having the MOST czars out of any President. Unlike you I don't want a bigger government. Unlike you I want accountability. However, you seem to be fine with just allowing thigs to remain status quo and allowing the government to reach deeper and deeper into your life and your pocket. Let me know how that works out for you in about 12 months when we will see double digit inflation from Obama's incessant need to keep printing more money and borrowing more from China. Hell ever the Chinese are starting to tire of this and might just call in their marker. They all but laughed at little Timmy when he told them their assets were safe. In fact, they DID laugh at him. Nothing shows repect like laughing in the face of your so-called trading partner. I'm just wondering how bad its going to get when Obama breaks yet another promise and raises the taxes on the middle class. Something tells me they won't like that much.
The Dems took control of congress in 2006 DJohn. And the market downturn is not the result of Fannie and Freddie. Here is some homework for you. Look into the concept of "leveraging". Read up on credit default swaps. Find out about derivatives. I'll throw you a bone. The money in derivatives, which produce absolutely nothing, was in the double digit TRILLIONS. Those never should have been legal, DJohn. It was not the Democrats who did that. Do some homework.
Bill- I think you might be onto something there wiht derivatives but what I can't figure out and what NOBODY is talking about is HOW these derivatives might have caused this problem in the first place. If you want my honest opinion on the subject I think this was planned and executed much like a military operation but at very high levels of power in the world. Someone wanted to shake the confidence in the monetary system so that the WORLD would be more willing to accept a world wide currency. They could be internation banker types associates with the Federal Reserve. After all the Fed is not a government agency. It's a PRIVATE BANK with it's own Board of Directors. The reason that I know this was nothing that WE did (I mean W or the United States) is because there were many other countries in the world doing the same thing as we were and buying these derivatives. Should Bush have stopped it? Maybe. Could he have? I don't know. If we really want to affix blame for this we need to do an audit of ALL the major investment banks and the other countries that were in the derivative business. That's the only way we will uncover the truth of the matter. Something tells me though that might not happen. Whoever planned this would not have been sloppy enough to leave a calling card. The sheer magnitude of this is frightening.

I also found this: http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/how_did_this_happen.html
He makes some very good points in this article. Among them is the fact that while the GOP and the Dems are busy blaming each other for what happened, the real perpetrators are blame free.
How funny, you mention anonymous and accountability. Do you really believe that this matters in the long run? We all knew President Bush and "DICK" Cheneys names and what they were all about, war crimes, and they will never be held accountable for their wrath as of this day.
DJohn, making Dear Leader look bad is bad. You know that. Dear Leader only strives to improve your status. Defining the Dear Leader as a Dictator or Totalitarian Leader is not acceptable. Our Jewish Leaders have decided that we must have a variety of Czars and Special Masters. This is good. It will bring good fortune to our land. Please refrain from attacking our Dear Leader as his feelings are easily hurt. He is not used to being criticized or questioned. You need an attitude adjustment. Straighten up and fly right...
I'm not going to take the time to do it, however, I'd be willing to bet a little time spent searching the internet would yield a lot of info on these people, should one be so inclined.
@Max Frank; Our Jewish leaders you say? So "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" was true? I'm so frightened, this can only mean the international Zionist conspiracy has finally achieved domination and soon they'll be sacrificing Christian babies in their demonic rituals!
1) Drug czar was actually demoted to non-cabinet status

2) I've never heard of a lot of these people referred to officially as czars. Only perhaps (personally not even, but perhaps) in a dilluted shorthand journo-jargon kinda way.

3) yeah, that's how the executive works. Of course they are accountable. Senate can demand their dismissal as they can of anyone serving at the pleasure of the president who fucks up, and can impeach the president for refusing. I think the House can also issue arrest warrants, but not certain.

But yeah, the president has the power to appoint people to handle matters and head task forces. It's a large part of his job.

Sorry i this sounds snarky, but I think this is another "Obama is a fascist" rant. Y'all complain Washington is clogged up and inefficient, then scream bloody rape when someone takes action to get stuff done.
"Our Jewish Leaders have decided that we must have a variety of Czars and Special Masters. This is good."

Cute. As cool a cat as Obie is, we can't claim him. Alls we can cop to is Rahm's dirty moth and Axelplouffe's organizing chops. Which ain't bad. Rahm can cuss him some cussin', he can.
People put in positions of power by Washington with no accountability are a grave threat. A perfect example includes the Board of Governors of the Federal System, who only are about to cause one of the largest depressions in world history. It's the shadow of the government, nobody knows who they are, and they sit behind the scenes, which is what the author is getting at. And why do we need this "regulation" in the first place. BECAUSE AMERICA IS FASCIST, Natalie B and Rick Banks...
@nanatehay; yep, it’s all true. “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” was positively authenticated by none other than Dear Leader’s old pastor: Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Minister Louis Farrakhan also collaborated with President Ahmadinejad giving enormous weight to this landmark reversal… but don't tell anybody yet, then it won't work like it's pose two.
I didn't vote for Obama, then again I didn't vote for McCain. both are progressive a hole's... to all you kool-aid drinkers, do you realize who the king of Czars was?? That's right Benito Mussolini the Fck'ing Fascist, so I hope you Dim-wits are happy! BTW, I hear they're having a special on gray gabardine suit's at Kohl's asshole!
djohn, i take back some of what i said in my comments above. you're not a fool, you're a guy who believes some stuff which i think is silly, but you at least seem to have a basic grip on sanity. to see the definition of fool, and marginally insane as well, all one needs to do is read the comments here from rocky balboa and xorezx. these guys get the whizzo button for retardedness, and no mistake:)
And you can say a big ole Thank You to Reagan for creating the idea of the Czar.
On the one hand you completely suck as a logistician on the other hand you look like you might be cute. Which head should I think with???? that christian thing/repression often leads to good love, but the pillow talk after would be so banal and really no one wants banal after anal it's better to just fake an urgent appointment. On the other hand Marines are so good at taking orders... no no no, sorry the head with the brain in it wins. But thanks for playing. Good luck on that figuring out the world around you, it doesn't seem like you've made a very good start.
ocular, tijo; shhhhhh. xorezx and rocky, though without cognitive abilities as we know them, can sense your presence.
On the way is the appointment of a cyber czar.

I think you might have had a more valuable post if you wrote about what these czars are set up to lead or "defend."

The problem really isn't that somebody from, oh, say Microsoft will be in charge of a cyber security bureaucracy in government. The problem is that a cyber security bureaucracy will be set up and civil liberties organizations (especially the Electronic Frontier Foundation) fear what could happen to the Internet and the people if a section for cyber security is setup.
Czars????? Why the hell do we have Cabinet members?
This is nothing more than a power play.

p.s. What the hell is it with the grammar police here?
The so-called policy "czar" is not "accountable to no one". They are simply administration officials, like any other administration official that does not require Senate confirmation (there are quite a few), who are there to oversee a specific area of policy. They report to the president and are accountable to him, to the law and due to the beautiful system of American democracy, to the courts, should they do anything outside the law. This paranoia about lawlessness is absurd. If this were an issue of lawlessness, wouldn't he just not announce these "czars"?

What's more, the "pay czar" is being put in place to oversee something that is already part of the bailout program... limits on certain types of executive compensation at firms that are taking taxpayer money in order to stay afloat. Are all of you people arguing that this is a bad thing in favor of letting corporate executives, who ran these companies into ground, lied about it for months and years, and took tens of millions or even hundreds of millions in compensation anyway, use taxpayer money to give themselves more multi-million-dollar bonuses for failure, instead of using the money to shore up vital areas of our economy?

I think Rich Banks says it well: "appointing qualified people to key administrative positions, in the expectation that they will execute policy and serve the nation. How... diabolical!"
I think Rich Banks says it well: "appointing qualified people to key administrative positions, in the expectation that they will execute policy and serve the nation. How... diabolical!"
J.E. Robertson
June 13, 2009 10:27 AM

Isn't this what Cabinet posts are for? It is simply another unecessary layer of government thrust upon an ignorant electorate.
Rated.

DJ, with the help of some valuable contributors , you're doing a very good job of deflecting the nonsense of the resident collectivists, who see no danger in adding ever increasing layers of governmental bureaucracy to our lives.

What do these people think these new czars are going to do? Figure out new and exciting ways Americans can exercise freedom from governmental interference?

Given his total lack of executive experience, which he demonstrates daily, Obama should be indulged to some extent in his efforts to find people who know what they're doing. I'm not convinced that this latest gaggle fits that bill, but that may be because we don't know very much about them. As you say, we certainly didn't elect them.
Obama wants total control, that is why he does what he does. Some of the people leaving comments can't see the big picture. They are nit picking on the word czar. Our constitution is being torn apart while everyone is being lulled by the lies of the controlled mainstream media.
You raise a good question: I have been researching these folks, their expertise in the areas over which they now govern and how much they are being paid with fringe benefits.

Nothing-public employee salary (including mine) is available to the public with benefits. Nothing on these people. Few-if any-have any expertise in their area.

As to "hiring somebody to craft policy" well, gee whiz-I thougth that was Obama and Congress's job. Not another lazy government appointee who does nothing, says less and draws a big salary.

All I have been able to find out if that the healthcare "task force" or commission or whatever you want to call it is being funded in the millions (that's right boys and girls-millions) to determine out which of us gets treatment and who does not: so far they have ascertained that self-inflicted health issues (smokers with cancers-binge drinkers with liver disease) will be allocated a minimum of care and the old folks (the baby boomers now-how funny a gen X president is now crafting policy not to treat boomers who are determined never to age!!) will not receive things like new knees, hips and such once they reach "X" age (they are very quiet on the age-waiting until the legislation passes).

The healthcare package now going through leaves nearly 40,000,000 uninsured-they are only about 50,000,000 uninsured anyway.
Ask yourself why would they be writing a plan that leaves so many uninsured (and by the way they are exempting themselves from the plan just like they exempted themselves from FICA taxes until people realized they were not paying FICA and threw a fit in the early 80's)?

If you know the answer you are very astute. If not, oh well, you are drinking the Koolaid and the good news is that you will not be a burden on the "federal government": they ain't gonna cover a bunch of baby boomers who have smoked dope and popped pills for fun (and fun I bet it was).

Be very careful what you wish for: cause it is here. These folks are so much smarter than the average American if they were not hell-bent on destroying our economic freedom and way of like it would be funny. Instead it is just sad.
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