Dorinda D.

Dorinda D.
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I teach writing at several universities. My two daughters are seven and 18. I adore my children, have trouble raising them, and you will read more about them than you care to. I am a professional cancer survivor. There is a lot more that I don't know than I do know.

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NOVEMBER 29, 2011 11:09AM

Christ Removed

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I had been drifting towards atheism since 2007 after a year in the hospital for cancer treatment.  Barbara Ehrenreich explains her similar exasperation with the “have faith and think positive” proponents who would invade my chemotherapy treatment room every Friday for a year dressed as clowns, carrying homemade quilts, or with puppies to pet.   In Bright-Sided  Ehrenreich explains how experiences while she underwent cancer treatment made her suspicious of the power of positive thinking to the point that she found it quite harmful and began to argue for existentialism.  Here is a link

http://www.barbaraehrenreich.com/brightsided.htm.

All the uninvited visitors announced something along the lines of “have a positive attitude/faith in the Lord” and you will get better. They meant well but I soon banned them from my room along with any member of the clergy because such messages when one is watching poison stream slowly and painfully into one’s body are aggravating.  After being diagnosed yet again in 2010 with cancer I made a serious decision that God and faith in a higher power did not exist for me.  God certainly had no belief in me so I was done.

During that time with no conscious effort on my part most new friends I made were either not Christian or not mainstream Christian.  A group of people including a Catholic Cajun who practiced voodoo, a Muslim who prayed five times a day, a former Amish fireplace builder who became a hedonist in later life, a Buddhist, an atheist, and many Jewish people became my close friends.  So it is fine for others to have faith I just don’t want them to be evangelical and judgmental about it.  I try not to be evangelical and judgmental in my atheism.  Evangelism in general is an emotionally aggressive power play and exceedingly offensive stating “be like me and you will be better.”  No thank you.

Removing Christ from one’s life did not in my case change it much.  Back in 2009 I saw an exhibition recreating the Rothko Chapel commissioned by Fort Worth meditation practitioners in 1971.  Rothko produced several almost all black squares for a spare room with only two slim black couches.  The exhibition was in the tower of the National Gallery’s modern wing and there was only one way out of it. The first time I saw the exhibition I quickly found that exit because I thought the paintings were the most stupid paintings I had ever seen. 

Description of the exhibition.

http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2010/rothkotower/slideshow/index.shtm

. . . eighteen monumental dark canvases that Rothko painted for a non-denominational chapel in Houston. To recall that connection, this exhibition includes music composed for it by Morton Feldman (Rothko Chapel, 1971). The result is an experiment, or at least a set of questions. Do the paintings fulfill Rothko's ideal of an abstract art that reflects the range of human passions? Does the music deepen or dilute their effect? Is their blackness brooding? Or are they euphoric in their passage from black to light?

Exhibition Brochure

http://www.nga.gov/exhibitions/2010/rothkotower/rothko-brochure.pdf

Video

http://www.nga.gov/podcasts/video/hi/rothko-hi.shtm

In order to leave the exhibition I had to take an escalator downstairs that forced me to walk through an exhibition of religious masterpieces almost pornographic at times in their representation of the pain of Christ.   

The paintings certainly seemed out of place in the modern wing of the National Gallery. All that was needed to highlight the homoeroticism was a blacklight. 

This is that exhibition.

The Sacred Made Real

http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/whats-on/exhibitions/the-sacred-made-real

 

Review in the Washington Post

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/25/AR2010022505778.html

A blacklight works on paintings with a primarily black background.

Then it hit me and I ran back upstairs to see Rothko’s squares again. There were deliberate variations in shades of black and gray.  Rothko had kept the meditative power but removed Christ and religion from his paintings.

Sheer friggin’ genius.

Existentialism is essential to understanding literary criticism of the 20th century and one that I have taught in various literature classes for 20 years.  I usually introduce it with Dr. Seuss’s Oh The Places You’ll Go which is read for you by John Lithgow at this link.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQRWeZy-S8Q

What Stanford says about existentialism

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/existentialism/

Ehrenreich is onto something when calling for a movement towards existentialism and away from positive thinking.  I interpret existentialism as one even precedes another and how we handle one event will affect the qualities of the next.  The only difference between existentialism and Christian existentialism is a Christian would consider WWJD? or What would Jesus do?

 

As Dr. Seuss wisely notes:

 

Congratulations!
Today is your day.
You're off to Great Places!
You're off and away!

You have brains in your head.
You have feet in your shoes.
You can steer yourself
any direction you choose.
You're on your own. And you know what you know.
And YOU are the guy who'll decide where to go.

You'll look up and down streets. Look 'em over with care.
About some you will say, "I don't choose to go there."
With your head full of brains and your shoes full of feet,
you're too smart to go down any not-so-good street.

And you may not find any
you'll want to go down.
In that case, of course,
you'll head straight out of town.

It's opener there
in the wide open air.

Out there things can happen
and frequently do
to people as brainy
and footsy as you.

And then things start to happen,
don't worry. Don't stew.
Just go right along.
You'll start happening too.

OH!
THE PLACES YOU'LL GO!

You'll be on y our way up!
You'll be seeing great sights!
You'll join the high fliers
who soar to high heights.

You won't lag behind, because you'll have the speed.
You'll pass the whole gang and you'll soon take the lead.
Wherever you fly, you'll be best of the best.
Wherever you go, you will top all the rest.

Except when you don't.
Because, sometimes, you won't.

I'm sorry to say so
but, sadly, it's true
that Bang-ups
and Hang-ups
can happen to you.

You can get all hung up
in a prickle-ly perch.
And your gang will fly on.
You'll be left in a Lurch.

You'll come down from the Lurch
with an unpleasant bump.
And the chances are, then,
that you'll be in a Slump.

And when you're in a Slump,
you're not in for much fun.
Un-slumping yourself
is not easily done.

You will come to a place where the streets are not marked.
Some windows are lighted. But mostly they're darked.
A place you could sprain both your elbow and chin!
Do you dare to stay out? Do you dare to go in?
How much can you lose? How much can you win?

And IF you go in, should you turn left or right...
or right-and-three-quarters? Or, maybe, not quite?
Or go around back and sneak in from behind?
Simple it's not, I'm afraid you will find,
for a mind-maker-upper to make up his mind.

You can get so confused
that you'll start in to race
down long wiggled roads at a break-necking pace
and grind on for miles cross weirdish wild space,
headed, I fear, toward a most useless place.
The Waiting Place...

...for people just waiting.
Waiting for a train to go
or a bus to come, or a plane to go
or the mail to come, or the rain to go
or the phone to ring, or the snow to snow
or the waiting around for a Yes or No
or waiting for their hair to grow.
Everyone is just waiting.

Waiting for the fish to bite
or waiting for the wind to fly a kite
or waiting around for Friday night
or waiting, perhaps, for their Uncle Jake
or a pot to boil, or a Better Break
or a string of pearls, or a pair of pants
or a wig with curls, or Another Chance.
Everyone is just waiting.

NO!
That's not for you!

Somehow you'll escape
all that waiting and staying
You'll find the bright places
where Boom Bands are playing.

With banner flip-flapping,
once more you'll ride high!
Ready for anything under the sky.
Ready because you're that kind of a guy!

Oh, the places you'll go! There is fun to be done!
There are points to be scored. There are games to be won.
And the magical things you can do with that ball
will make you the winning-est winner of all.
Fame! You'll be as famous as famous can be,
with the whole wide world watching you win on TV.

Except when they don't
Because, sometimes they won't.

I'm afraid that some times
you'll play lonely games too.
Games you can't win
'cause you'll play against you.

All Alone!
Whether you like it or not,
Alone will be something
you'll be quite a lot.

And when you're alone, there's a very good chance
you'll meet things that scare you right out of your pants.
There are some, down the road between hither and yon,
that can scare you so much you won't want to go on.

But on you will go
though the weather be foul.
On you will go
though your enemies prowl.
On you will go
though the Hakken-Kraks howl.
Onward up many
a frightening creek,
though your arms may get sore
and your sneakers may leak.

On and on you will hike,
And I know you'll hike far
and face up to your problems
whatever they are.

You'll get mixed up, of course,
as you already know.
You'll get mixed up
with many strange birds as you go.
So be sure when you step.
Step with care and great tact
and remember that Life's
a Great Balancing Act.
Just never foget to be dexterous and deft.
And never mix up your right foot with your left.

And will you succeed?
Yes! You will, indeed!
(98 and 3/4 percent guaranteed.)

KID, YOU'LL MOVE MOUNTAINS!

So...
be your name Buxbaum or Bixby or Bray
or Mordecai Ali Van Allen O'Shea,
You're off the Great Places!
Today is your day!
Your mountain is waiting.
So...get on your way!

Thanks Dr. Seuss.

I like to go places and now do so all the time. 

That is where I place my faith.   

 

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my church on Sunday is a walk in the woods with my pal Pete.
I think the big joke about the WWJD approach, is that the person subscribing to that "dowsing" method of ethics is essentially putting themselves in the place of Jesus, picking what they would feel comfortable admitting, doing, saying, and then finding a way to interpret that as how Jesus would go about it. They make themselves Jesus. It is part and parcel of the artificial empathy, in this case, of spiritual narcissism. Conservatives and evangelicals prefer one "right' point of view, and when they stuff themselves into that primary point, they can only understand what is right for them. However, oddly, they cannot imagine that others do not see what they see. With a chuckle, I had thought of writing a post on "Do you hear what I hear?", the christmas carol, about spreading a message and the changing points of view, interpretations of what the message is.
To be honest, I don't care what Jesus would do, or Buddha, because they are not me and they are not here and now. I will, however, be informed by their general approach of nonviolence, forgiveness, compassion, and generosity in all things I do because it works best for me most of the time in resolving conflict or generating good communication. Jesus was not a Christian, he was a heretical Jew, who studied with the Eastern mystics of Sufis and Buddhists (and likely others), and clearly came back with the same stamp of "give up your materialism and your selfishness" that characterizes a transcendent view of the journey of the soul while still here on Earth having human relationships. That still doesn't mean he wasn't a radical nut.
Never saw that Seuss poem, and it could be the best spiritual advice kids could get these days! Thanks for sharing it!
And I know about those vultures calling themselves Christians that hover over cancer patients. They showed up at my mother's door frequently, and I had to tell them rudely to go away. Mom wouldn't - she was so vulnerable and weak, and didn't want to reject any possible source of a "cure." Of course, what these ghouls really wanted was a deathbed conversion - my mom was Jewish - to bring back to their church as a trophy, and they as much as admitted it, in their self-righteous doublespeak.
This may be one of the most dangerously beautiful things you've ever written, and I am enthralled by its parts, probably none more so than the Rothko black works, wherein lie the source of all light, in that spectrum the black-and-white thinker rushes from in panic. I feel I have just walked out of the Masonic Lodge Quatuor Coronati in London, where things like this happen, where multiple people have sometimes days-long discussions that end like this, more or less in the dark, concluding things that would seem antithetical to the insistence that a Mason be anything, but not an atheist. My favorite theologian (and Kierkergaard does rank among them) is Tillich, simply because he argued God does not, can not, exist. It is a paradox, grasshoppa.

You have artfully skinned religion from the picture here, thank you and bless you (not "God bless you," which would be anathema to me, just as those misery-bearing positive thinkers were to you during your first hospitalization). Norman Vincent Peale scammed millions over the years with his "The Power of Positive Thinking," which dismissed the power of thinking altogether.

There is so much here, so much that is precious because it leans upon reason, it is impossible to praise it enough to leave me feeling satisfied. "The Sacred Made Real" is an abomination. Yet I do not label myself "atheist." I believe in...well, hell, back in 1964 I did my first intentional writing inspired by Rothko, something I have, for my own reasons kept hidden so far, seven short stories inspired by the color black.

I could go on and there is a very real danger I will if I don't stop now, by saying, once again, Thank you. You are a conduit for light out of dark, order out of chaos, simply be removing The Jesus (I refuse to refer to that character as "Christ," except when, in sarcasm, I sometimes ask "Do you refer to the late J. Christ of Biblical fame?") It is a start, scraping the colors off the grotto walls, so we can see what light is there.

Genius. Oh, the places you'll go! r.
AJ- remember that "Power of Positive Thinking" is no different than The Secret or other ideas of manifestation. It isn't only about fake feelings (positive is not about good/pleasant) but visualizing a space, goal, embodiment and interacting with it. Unfortunately, the lazy work approach is "think good thoughts".
Positive thinking gives you a vision to work toward, not replace confronting reality. Even the Tibetan Buddhists, in their Chud practice, use this kind of imagery in a different way- to overcome their fears- by creating an image of that which is hurting them, and feeding it (visually) so that it may leave them, satisfied. Used for overcoming addiction, healing from illness, facing depression.
BUT, this is not the inverse of the condescending and hateful approach that people in healthcare use to blame their patients for having negative outcomes (not happy). Sadly, for all of our technology, we forget that human bodies also work in the existential realm and cannot be reduced only to mechanical engineering - including only the mechanics of emotional biochem. The root of many disease processes is wrapped up in feeling valueless and worthless, depressed, abused- but the root of that feeling does not lie within the individual.
We have a friend who is just barely surviving lymphoma, and she is a negative sort. (And a Christian). She was misdiagnosed for years, told it was all in her head, and turns out, has a rare form almost never seen. Still, doctors at Mayo say she needs to have a better attitude in order to survive. Her "negative" attitude was what got her to the doctor again and again until they found the damn cancer.
A couple of questions, if I may…and serious questions; I am not being a wise-ass here.

You wrote: I had been drifting towards atheism since 2007 after a year in the hospital for cancer treatment.

So, before the drift started, you were guessing there is a GOD (or there are gods)…and now you are guessing there is no GOD (or are no gods).

Why bother guessing at all? Why not simply acknowledge that you do not know—and that there really is not enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess?

In other words, why are you not drifting toward agnosticism?

ASIDE: Congratulations on surviving the cancer and the treatment. I went through it myself and know it is not a pleasant thing to experience.
I'm just glad you're alive, cause, well, ~shuffling paws~ I'd miss ya if you weren't around(besides, you were my first commenter 3 years ago in a few days!! I know...where has the time gone, Zeus knows but he ain't speaking! :D)
I'm very glad to read you've survived cancer, such a nasty disease, so wrong of total strangers to come lurking around cancer wards, as if looking for souls to harvest, that is just creepy.

As for the rest, I found myself baffled at some of your conclusions, but respect your own process...whatever gives peace.

My overall first thought when I read your title:
Oh goody, just in time for the Christmas season.

When I did read your post, I appreciated your adding that atheists can get quite evangelical in their non-belief, I'm glad you take a 'to each his/her own' approach.
What's that phrase?
"While I disagree completely with everything you say, I defend completely your right to say so." ...or something like that.

Thanks for not bashing.
So boring when people bash others' beliefs.
Humans seem to have a genetic predisposition to believe in the spiritual--God, hereafter, whatever. I wonder why that is. Congrats on your restoration to good health.
Hope is such a downfall. To just be here as in the poem, seems about right to me too.
We are all going to die, no need making a big deal of it, or hiding from it, it just is.
Great post.
Existentialism. The philosophy grasped and expounded on by major 20th Century atheist thinkers was developed by a Christian. Oh, The Places Irony Will Go. I have no idea how strong your faith was prior to 2007. I'm guessing that you must have felt a spiritual separation in addition to what you were going through during treatment. The whole Power Of Positive Thinking -- gag.
ahhh...so that's the problem..."head full of brains and shoes full of feet" I think most of us had that the other way around...
CAMUS: doctrine of the absurd–human life is rendered ultimately meaningless by the fact of death and that the individual cannot make rational sense of his experience.

Camus was concerned mainly with exploring avenues of rebellion against the absurd as he strove to create something like a humane stoicism

http://haltingarkansasliberalswithtruth.com/2011/07/08/the-characters-referenced-in-woody-allen%E2%80%99s-movie-%E2%80%9Cmidnight-in-paris%E2%80%9D-part-30-albert-camus/